Deconstructing Adam and Eve | Why Eden Was a Set Up 

Without original sin, the whole church falls apart, the whole patriarchy falls apart, control of women falls apart.

Another interesting thing is that it took the serpent like six verses to talk Eve into eating the apple. It took Eve one sentence to talk Adam into doing so.

What always bothered me about that story is, how can one be expected to understand the concept of something being forbidden, without already having knowledge of good and evil in the first place?

Great video! My husband and I were just discussing this a few weeks ago, and our exact words were “they were set up for failure and then punished for failing!”

God: This fruit is forbidden! Adam: What does "forbidden" mean? God: You'll find out when you eat the forbidden fruit.

This is like a parent setting out all kinds of things in the kitchen and including a bowl of candy and telling your kids that you can eat any of this but not from the bowl of candy. And the kid eats from the candy. And the parent's immediate response is "Uh-oh! Someone's gotta die!" Punishment doesn't really fit the crime. Set someone up to fail and then punish them.

Was the serpent evil? Because we’re often told evil came into the world at the time of the fall. But if the serpent was evil then evil existed in this “perfect world” before the fall

I love the Adam and Eve story. You can really pick it apart in so many ways that reveals the silliness of it. One way, that I've never heard anyone consider is time. How long were they in the garden before this event happened? Now at first it might seem irrelevant or meaningless to ask that question, but if you really consider it, there is more silliness that arises. It's actually a very important question to ask because it can change a lot on how the story is viewed.

Whenever I hear this story, I can't help but remember the quip, "Adam blamed Eve; Eve blamed the serpent; and the serpent didn't have a leg to stand on."

IMO the Eden story makes most sense if you assume it was the answer given to a child who was continually asking "Daddy, why do you have to go to work? Daddy, why is the ground hard? Daddy, why is mummy in pain? Daddy, why dont snakes have legs?"

Since i started watching you, ive never been so inspired by someone, people are fighting so hard to ignore the reality and buy bullshit

My late wife used to say that getting 'saved' was like winning a new dream car but not getting the keys until you died.

You don't have to put a knife in a playpen to teach children about choosing toys to play with .... very eloquently said!

Thirty years ago, in my early 20s, I was feeling guilty about normal human desires, and I concluded that perhaps I didn’t really have a good grasp of my faith, so I agreed to submit to a Bible study with some older women in my congregation as if I was someone off the street learning my religion. I now know that I was very depressed, and rightly so. But at the time I thought the study would “fix” me. So we reviewed the story of Adam and Eve, and this sweet, nurturing woman beamed at me and said, “Aren’t we so fortunate to have such a loving, patient God, who instead of killing Adam and Eve immediately, allowed them to live and have children, so that we exist today?” My response completely surprised myself, and absolutely astounded my “teachers.” I said, “I am not thankful! I’m not appreciative! I’m miserable, and supposedly it’s all Adam & Eve’s fault? If God had destroyed them, life would not be so terrible and humans would not be suffering! I don’t think that’s loving at all!” That was the first original thought I had ever had, and I had no idea that I was capable of having thoughts that opposed the official story line. It still took me 15 more years to break away from Christianity, but that was the beginning of thinking for myself. When I left my religion, it wasn’t because I no longer believed. I totally believed, and I was positive that I was choosing eternal death. But I had decided that I’d rather be dead than pretend to love the god of the Bible any longer. Only later was I able to decide that I don’t need to believe things that don’t make sense, and so I’m no longer Christian. Although I kind of think the Christ of the Bible was not a bad dude, and that MAYBE if the religion were REALLY based on him, it would actually be a pleasant world. But I doubt it.

When I heard the question "Why did God put the tree in Adam's garden", a thought came to my mind. What if the garden was never for Adam? What if it was God's garden, belonging to him and designed for him, while Adam was no more than an additional pet, a puppet, an alive piece of furniture for God to look at? God doesn't want his pet to know good and evil - he wants it to be thoughtless and ignorant, doing silly things for God's amusement. He creates Adam first, so this intent of his is reflected in Adam exactly how God wants. However, after some time God understands: pet is alone - pet is bored - pet isn't doing as much silly things as it could've been; and here's when he makes Adam a companion, Eve. But Eve isn't made only by God himself - Adam's rib is also involved in her making, somehow lessening the influence of God's intent to see his pets thoughtless. Thus, Eve gains intuition and curiosity; and while Adam is out there rolling on his back or doing whatever he can for God's amusement, Eve goes exploring the garden and finds the tree. Adam, still being completely thoughtless, comes after her and just stays there while she talks to the serpent. The serpent's intent is hard to define - maybe it wants humans to become something better than just another kind of pets in God's garden, maybe it even hopes for them to overthrow God one day, or maybe it just wants pets to get smarter and more interesting to watch. However, it does tell them the truth about the tree - unlike God, who plays on their primal fear of death to keep pets away from the table, I mean tree (because, again, he wants pets to stay silly) - and Eve, having acknowledged the usefulness of it, takes a bite and offers Adam to do the same. Adam, being as thoughtless as God wanted him to be, takes a bite too. They understand good and evil, and also understand that now they aren't silly anymore. Some time later God walks through his garden, calling his pets in a "kitty-kitty" manner, and when they finally show up and turn out to be too smart to amuse him, he gets angry, throws a tantrum and curses everyone. Eve gets the hardest punishment because she's the most independent, and angry God wants to break her spirit; Adam is put above her for the same reason (maybe God did fear a possibility of being overthrown, huh?), and the serpent is most likely deprived not only of his legs, but also of his intelligence, becoming a new silly belly-crawling pet for God, like Adam once was. And at the end God sends Adam and Eve down to Earth, where he from now on can see - and stage - the most emotional and intricated spectacles he could ever imagine. With all the evil and all the suffering. Again, for his selfish amusement...

This story was the final blow to my subtle deconstruction that creeped into my Christian journey a few years ago. This story clearly wasn't thought through. If it's inspired by God, then at least there shouldn't be all these weird fundamental flaws.

I love your take on Adam and Eve and your analogy with a baby in the playpen. It’s like a father putting toys in the playpen and a loaded gun and telling the baby not to play with the gun. I’d love to hear the father’s defense when the police show up because the baby fired the gun. “It’s not my fault. The baby has free will, officer. When I placed the gun in the playpen, I told him not to play with it but he did anyway. What a bad and awful baby! I’m throwing him right out of my house! Officer, why are you putting those cuffs on my wrist? I didn’t do anything wrong. It’s all that evil baby! I know how to fix this. I’ll crucify my other son, so that then I can forgive this baby for firing the gun. Oh, Jesus, can you come down here for a minute? Wait, officer, let me go! Where are you taking me?”

Preach sister. I came to this conclusion as a small child when I asked my mom what was the reason God created Adam and Eve? She said to take care of the animals, then I said why don't you and dad do that? That's when I realized people cherry picked what rules they wanted to follow and that the Bible was inherently impossible to follow as wrote.

You are a breath of fresh air. Animated and interesting. Asking many of the same questions I have asked myself. Going straight to the important questions, "It was a set-up from the beginning. WHY?"

One question (of many) that I had was 'why would they be embarrassed to be naked by gaining knowledge'. Being embarrassed is usually a learned trait. Edit: It also never states anywhere that the serpent in the garden was Satan/Lucifer. It was always just a serpent.

one day my mother, an evangelical lady, told me in our many discussions about the bible, god and religion that "to be a christian you need to follow everything blindly, without questioning" and that made a lot of sense. this is why i am no longer a believer because i refuse to live by rules that make no sense to me and the more i learn about christianity the more i find it so controversial. this video is a gem! i'm glad that youtube recommended it to me! long live your channel 🙌🏻

Someone needs to make a horror movie based on all this.

Simple question, if Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil, how did God expect them to obey? How were they supposed to understand that eating the fruit was wrong?

That anyone believes these stories from the pulpit is a testament to the gullibility of us humans.

You hit all the points that I’ve questioned since I was young. It’s like a game: the game designer set up the rules so that the players would fail. And then blamed the players for failing. Excellent assessment on your part!

This was always the question that I asked my former pastor & I was told that I can’t ask that question 😂

OMG WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!! I'm so glad to have found your channel! I finally feel like someone gets it! I've thought these things and said/shared some of them and it's never gone well.. I left the church and blindly believing in the doctrine years ago, but I'm still deconstructing. I still believe in God(or a Creator), just not the way I was taught. Ultimately, I'm just trying to figure out my belief system overall. An I thank you for what you're doing. It is timely, insightful, and helpful.

When you realised that Eve wasn't completely at fault Adam was too he could have refused it if he really didn't want to 😑

I remember being a kid and learning about Adam and Eve and asking my mom “But I didn’t do anything wrong.. why do I have to have labor pains??” I wasn’t buying it even then 😂

Blind and obedient is the main takeaway from the Adam and Eve story. I'm glad you created a RU-vid channel with longer content

You nailed it. Why i no longer go to church. It gave me freedom to be who i wanna be and can work on hobbies i can enjoy.

The ORIGINAL Garden of Eden story, Sumerian I believe, was quite insightful before Christian doctrine reshaped it. (Not coincidentally, and in a remarkable parallel, so were the Virtues from Classical philosophy, which were ORIGINALLY put forward as a methodology for living happily and well. Aquinas got hold of them and turned them into a guilt trip.) So the original Garden story is a reasonably credible treatment of what it means to become conscious. For people who had no concept of evolution by natural selection, this is impressive. They still managed to put together a coherent story that strikes to the heart of the human condition. If we're going along in life unconsciously, like other animals, we simply act out of instinct and other unconscious drives. There are desires and aversions, but nobody observing the action and thinking "Well, choice X would feel immediately better than Y, but maybe wouldn't be so good in the longer term. I should probably think about this some more." Ancient peoples might have called that sort of abstract thinking a "knowledge of good and evil," but that's a clumsy analysis which misses the point. The point is that as long as we're embedded in the unconscious flow of inner experience and instinctive reaction, we can't separate ourselves from the experience in order to think about it dispassionately, in the abstract, as ideas to be weighed against each other. But the price we pay for this ability to step outside the moment of experience is that we can end up feeling disconnected from the very thing that gives reality its richness. And THIS was the message of the original story, I think. This was the Fall, the loss of innocence, the feeling of separation. It takes extraordinary effort now for humans to live "in the moment." It's why people pursue extremely sports, mindfulness practice, recreational drugs, ecstatic sex. OF COURSE we want to be fully present in the moment! But we also need to discipline our lives so that we're not living entirely in the moment but also thinking ahead, outside of the moment, about the possible consequences of our actions. There's no easy answer here. But I think it's fascinating that the ancient Sumerians, or whoever they were, somehow got a handle on this pivotal place in the development of the human condition, and devised a story to illustrate it. It's so pivotal! It drives that Zen koan asking about whether a dog has Buddha nature, in other words whether enlightenment is really another word for innocence. (The answer, as you may already know, is the Japanese word "mu" roughly translated as "nothing" or "unask the question" or "emptiness.") At any rate, the Christian rewrite of this fundamental treatment of human awakening seems deeply disappointing in comparison. It's just another guilt trip about how disobedient humans are tainted with naughtyness, and how it's our own fault that we were kicked out of paradise. But someone paid off our debt, so now we're in debt to him instead, and we'd better be thankful, otherwise infinite torture awaits. But don't forget to feel shame either way. I am very puzzled that Christianity has such a grip on people. The more I learn about it, the more messed up it seems.

Growing up I was always taught that Samson was some sort of biblical hero. Then I happened to watch a Darkmatter2525 video telling the story showing Samson to be a jerk. I remember thinking no way, that can't be true. So I went to the source and sure enough Samson was a lying cheating murdering jackass. Not at all like he was portrayed in Sunday school.

I came to the realization that the whole story about Adam and Eve was just a way for the patriarchy to justify why they thought women are lesser, after I took women’s history It all just made sense to me. Thank you because you’ve put my thoughts into words.

Spot on once again. Your explanations are beautiful in their clarity, in depth examinations of the subject matter but simplistic in their delivery, so that all can understand your message. I consider you to be one of the best presenters on this platform.

This is difficult for true believers to digest. The idea of ​​a loving God was instilled in them from an early age. And then comes the hammer of eternal damnation. How does this fit with a loving God? But here comes the true salvation: God is a fiction and we need not fear damnation.

Amen!! Such a refreshing look at the story we believed so blindly.. it’s frustrating that I even believed and never reasoned it out rationally for 15 years.. but glad we are seeing the trickery now. That’s true freedom! Thank you again!

What I can say is that after 54 years of being manipulated and lied to by establishment religious institutions, I can really appreciate it when people are able to clearly articulate the erhical and logical problems with the Bible. Thank you Kristi, for your courage and intellect in making these vedios. Whoever God is, if He exist, the Bible is absolutely not His infallibil word.

Yes! Years ago I used to ask why our “loving God” set us up for failure and punished ALL of mankind for Adam and Eve’s sins! Looking back, now I understand that was the beginning of my deconstruction of Christianity!

I could listen to you do a breakdown on each story in the Bible! This is brilliant!!

Congratulations! You had to come a long way. And consider this: there is an older story about the Garden. In Sumeria, the Goddess reigned, Queen of Heaven, Mother of All. There is a depiction of her sitting by the Tree of Life, with her sacred companion the snake, symbol of renewal because it shed its skin, and possessor of ancient wisdom and secrets because it could hear with no ears and smell with no nose. (The much smaller figure of the man is tending the garden.) The Canaanites still believed in her, many of the Israelites had joined in, so the author of the story of Adam and Eve (whose name in Hebrew, I’m told, means Mother of All, how about that) was intent on stamping out this worship and all it implied, so in his story trees are forbidden, snakes are flattened, and women are subjugated. End of story.

One thing that always amazes me is that nothing happened when Eve ate the forbidden fruit. I honestly think that the story of that situation when he ate the fruit and both realized that they were naked is a metaphor of Adam feeling ashamed for knowing the truth and not liking his human nature and instinct. Pretty much how religious people are. And what’s funny is that most of them, one way or another, commit the most sins. I witnessed that in my church. Adultery was the most I saw.

Glad I found u Kristi, just subscribed. U make allot of sense like me. People might think I worry everything is conspiracy. But I question everything. When things don't add up makes me doubt everything I was told.

Very enlightening. Thank you, Ms. Kristi.

I'm 100% serious when I say I had the same idea! A caring parent won't put a knife in the playpen of toys and say choose wisely or surely die. It's so bizarre. It's so interesting to hear you speak because i totally understand! What's your tiktok?

I've always found telling people who don't understand the difference between good and evil not to do something super weird. How would they know that disobedience was a "bad" thing if they needed to eat the tree to know the difference between good and evil.

Exactly,If adam and eve didnt know whats good and whats EVIL,how could they know that eating this fruit was EVIL? Even if god told this to adam he still wouldnt know that its a mistake because he dosent know the difrence between good and evil

Kristi, your doing a great job with this channel. You’ll be in the hundred thousand subscribers in no time!❤

I think one of the best books I ever read was "The Diaries of Adam and Eve" by Mark Twain. It is funny, insightful, and sad all at the same time. The ending brought me to tears. It's only around 40 pages, and well worth the read.

When i was about 19 my Christian girlfriend took me to a bible study where the pastor was preaching the story of adam and eve. My take was exactly the same as yours and we got in a pretty heated debate. I wasn't invited back to bible study.

Hey Kristi. You are on point. There are so many preachers and tubers making videos where they really believe they are debunking all your arguments. Theyre shaking in their boots. Keep it up Kristi.

If Adam and Eve didn't know the difference between good and evil, how could they be expected to know it was wrong to disobey God?

I agree. This is brilliant. I hope this beautiful young lady is a teacher and an advocate for freedom from tyranny and suppression. The skill to communicate so efficiently may save our United States from the downward spiral toward a fascist society. I love people like this who use their beautiful mind to view the world with clarity and coherence.

I find it so hard to understand how god gave ‘a free choice’ if they couldn’t know any morals or know literally anything about life. It simply does not add up on how that’s fair! How could they know they were making a mistake if god never taught them mistakes or that mistakes are bad?

Former fundie here. For the first 20 years of my life I spent summers at "church camp", did the youth group, church activities, you name it. But as time went on, I began to question and finally broke away. You make valid points here and I long ago came to the same conclusions you have. When you boil it down, this is seeing through the church teachings and finally figuring out that the God they preach about is the one who invented the game, along with the rules, the playing field, the arena and the "opposition"; and oh, by the way, he's also the referee. It's all a set up to fail, with a bar set impossibly high. Set up so that the church maintains control. Even "saved" people need to continually re-affirm and repent to save themselves from simply being human. It's bizarre and wrong.

Yep, pretty much. This god is supposed to be all-knowing, all-powerful, which means the entire story of the Garden was a setup from the start. God knew they'd act the way they eventually and inevitably acted. Adam and Eve, if they wanted to not be cursed, would have to thwart the will of God.

The same people that tell me that women are gullible are also the ones that tell me that women are deceitful. Such a contradiction!

I’ve been triggered by scripture (and the reading of) for many years. You are helping me be able to hear all of those words again, but with a healed ❤️. Best perspective change if my lifetime!! Thank you so very much for that!! 🥰🥰🥰

I remember being sent to church at under 10 years old. When I tried to understand over the next couple years, it seemed like bs to me as a child.

I was always told Adam and Eve were the first humans but when I asked about why they had belly buttons my question was met with silence 🤐

Best beakdown of Adam and Eve Ive ever heard! Especially the part about God walking around like in a horror movie😮

The tree was like leaving a loaded weapon on a coffee table and telling your five year old kids not to touch it.

That is such an interesting perspective and I absolutely love how you tore apart one of the fundamentals of the book because that is very interesting that we look at it from more perspectives than our childlike Wonder because we're very much molded when we were raised in a church environment

Your analysis is acute, I was reading right along. Thanks for the insight.

Something I have been thinking a lot about lately that Kristi mentioned briefly is that God supposedly knows everything, including what's going to happen in the future. Which means he knew before he even created Adam and Eve, that they were going to sin, and he was going to punish them. Which means it was his plan from the beginning. So why would they be punished for carrying out his plan? If he wanted things to turn out differently he could've designed the system differently. He knew how it would play out, and that makes it his responsibility. He also supposedly knew that he would send Jesus someday, so why didn't he sent him right away? Why did he first wait until Noah build the ark and everyone in the world was killed, including children and babies and grandmothers? God knows the future so he knew that Flood wouldn't work and that eventually he would send Jesus to save people from their sins. Then why did he wait thousands of years to do that? I think people see questions like this as attacking God which is a big no-no because he is supposedly perfect. The questions are about the validity of the stories. And pointing out the ways that they don't make sense. True believers are not allowed to question. But if you sit back and think about the stories, you start to see no they don't make literal sense, but they are set up to control the masses and gather followers who will obey blindly.

"The weapon in the play-pin" is brilliant metaphor. A+

Well done, Kristi! A brilliant video! 👏

A very distinct memory i have is being like 12 years old and curled in the fetal position after having to be picked up from school because my period cramps were SO BAD and all my grandmother could say to console me was "isnt it just awful that eve ate that apple and cause this to happen" the effects of believing that god personally cursed me because of my sex at birth and i was condemned to suffer every month really fucked up my psyche 😬

I'm 13 now, I grew up strictly catholic, I hated it. I'm 2 years into deconstruction and you have helped me understand so much more about the church, I love your channel

Your deconstruction is fascinating! You raise these issues as you actually go through the process resulting in a disarming and refreshing frankness - this is a precious thing, don't lose it.

I have learned and grown so much from your channel. Thank you for putting all of this out there, and you were also simply adorable.❤

Blind and obeying is the perfect way of saying it. I believe that all generations that are born with the church in their lives follow blindly. Even all the religious leaders today in churches, mosques, and all sorts of religious temples. They just grew up with all of it and obeyed what they have learned from parents and the church. When I was 8y old, I looked in my moms eyes and told her that what the church tells us is so wrong. Nothing added up. The stories made no sense. This God sounded so evil to me that he could never ever have something to do with all the good things that were talked about. I watched a few of your videos now, and I just love how you explain yourself and word everything with .. well ... with an angels tongue - I believe those that read the Bible actually heard you explain what they read and may understand what they read and understand how much manipulated they were by the book and the books promoters. 😅

Love that I randomly found this channel after I started doing my unpacking, literally last night I was writing and this is the exact thing I was saying, that he is the the first tempter, he put the tree there and made it tempting, he made it appealing to us and allowed this to take place, he allowed the serpent to talk to eve, he allowed them to eat the fruit and then comes out guns blazing throwing curses at the creation that he loves so much. We never introduced sin into the world, he’s the creator of everything, including sin, satan wasn’t the first sinner, it had to exist for him to do it, but somehow they’ve manage to twist this blame game and take the blame from the one who made everything the way it is. It’s not a gift if you’re the one who gave me the problem

I was having Bible study with this older woman and we were talking about this story because I was like “how is Jehovah walking through the garden?” She said it was figuratively. 😐

One small tip for your audio: export it into a program like Audacity (free) and do both a high cut and low cut. I'm wearing headphones and the wind getting caught in the mic is creating some unwanted bass that's distracting and also the trees blowing/insects making noises is also quite distracting. Love the content, just wish I could focus on it better.

I love the horror movie comparison. It does have that feel! And the writing is even more ridiculous and filled with holes than even the worst 80s low budget slasher film. Imagine setting up that the killer is literally omniscient and omnipotent - he can see you every second and there's no escaping him - but then in the second act you have him stumbling around the forest impotently yelling "Hey, hey guys! Where'd you go?"

Also was the serpent satan? If so why was he in the garden of Eden? Could animals talk before the fall? If Adam and Eve were in the presence of god why weren’t they worshipping him (just like how Satan didn’t even though he was in the presence of god also). And why did god have to find them when they were hiding? I thought you can’t hide from god

Glad to have found your channel... I'm approximately 5 years into my deconstruction... Your efforts are helpful and much appreciated

When we try to understand the mind of God and the plan of God for mankind, it always leads to confusion, anger and apart from Him. I would not try to analyze the Scriptures to "prove" that Christianity is fake.

I for one am very impressed by your introduction of this information! Thank you.

If the garden of Eden was perfect, then how was there even a way to sin and be kicked out?

You are so right, when you speak about the Church's expectations of us: blind obedience. And not only that, they use the blind obedience to oppress its members, and brain wash them into believing that they're happy in their ignorance. I was raisied in an Evangelical church, and at the age of 16-ish, I began to truly question this blind obedience requirement, and left the church. I was condemned for my questions, and judged sinful by my former fellow congregants. As a young mother, in my 20s, I briefly explored re-joining the "faith", and was again confronted, by my intuition (God-given, if you ask some of my former fellow congregants... but that's another exploration: if it is God-given, why is using my intuition a "sin"?), and abandoned the organized Evangelical "faith" once again. Now, I'm still exploring whether I believe in an Omnipotent Higher Being, but I have no doubt that the God of the Bible is neither All Knowing, nor is He All Compassionate. He is, in short, as you say... The Bad Guy.

I found your explanation of the story of Adam and Eve to be very helpful in understanding it. One thing that I have always had a problem with is the fact that the God in the old testament seems entirely different from Jesus in the new testament. I was wondering if you also had a similar video pertaining to that topic.

I speculate that “us” is referring to God and the serpent, because they are the only two characters with definite knowledge prior to Adam and Eve. I also wonder where we got the idea from that the serpent was satan, because it never directly states it. And then also, isn’t it weird how Eve remained unnamed up until after the fall? It wasn’t until their eyes were opened that Adam realized he needed to name his partner. 😅

Keep these videos coming Kristi. There are so many of us with similar stories as yours and your voice gives us courage. Thank you for doing this.

This is so brilliant. As a recovering former Christian I am so grateful when someone can so eloquently explain and point out the flaws in these stories we've taken for granted. It seems like it doesn't take much more than looking at a slightly different angle to see how false and disgusting these messages we learned as kids and into adolescents were. Thank you for putting yourself out there, for opening up yourself to the horrible attacks from fundies in comments to help us all learn and recover more thoroughly and healthily. We appreciate you.

Without original sin the entire concept of Christianity has nothing. No need for Christ, forgiveness...nothing!

They will tell you that you're wrong for interpreting the bible in this way, but like, if they're allowed to interpret it how they want, why can't we? "You're twisting the word to sound bad" we don't have to make it sound bad, it does that itself pretty well. It's often the apologists and other religious believers that twist it to sound good.

I like the analogies of the toddler/parent relationship and showing compassion in a wrong choice…and the toddler with the knife for free will- brilliant

I think it's a story about slaves in a Babylonian garden. The rules for such slaves allowed them to eat from most trees, but the rare and particularly mature trees were off limits to slaves. Perhaps they were kids brought up in slavery from a very early age, forced to work nude and perhaps they didn't know better because it had always been that way. The Lord was the lord of the manor or garden. OT was written during the Babylonian Empire, and they were very famous for their gardens, which were also sort of zoos for exotic animals (think about Noah's Ark). Maybe it was a Blue Lagoon situation, and they realized they were naked when they had sexual awakening. There is a doublet of the creation story, and one states that the lord needed slaves to tend his garden, so he created them. When I look at the creation story through this lens, it starts to make a little sense.

What a woman! Brilliant and so insightful.

Brilliant job. Perfect analysis. You don't need to be a scholar to see the stupidity of this shit story. It's ruined so many lives. It needs to end now..

If Adam and Eve had not yet eaten from the tree of knowledge, they would have not known the difference between right and wrong. If they couldn't differentiate between the two, then they couldn't know that eating the fruit was wrong.

Adam was standing there SILENTLY thinking of himself "let her eat from that tree, if she dies, then I'll not eat. If she doesn't die, then I'll eat too". He wanted to test that tree on the expense of Eve. Then when he screwed up he threw Eve under the bus blaming her and God for his mistake. If there was any evil in that story it was Adam.

Original sin stands out as the number one thing that drove me away from the faith. I got so tired of going to church every week and saying creeds in unison about how terrible I was, along with all other humans, and we deserved punishment, and we can’t trust our own wants and decisions (which is literal gaslighting btw). It was offensive to my sensibilities and how I wanted to see the best I could in myself and everyone else, not their broken sin nature. How toxic shame inducing! Also, we’re broken sin people, and we’re like god, but god is perfect?? Does not make sense.

My favorite thing I heard growing up in church was “if any one of us were in the garden we would have given into temptation of eating the fruit”. Suggesting that it doesn’t matter and it was inevitable. But why in the first place? Why? *sigh*

Thank you for this story! This has really helped my deconstruction journey! You are such a kind person, and keep being you! ❤️ -aaw.

I love your explanations Kristi, keep helping people, to open their eyes to the truth. Your reading of the Garden of Eden is simply adding 2+2, I wish I could have seen this when I was young.

Just found your channel and I'm amazed with how wise and on point your arguments are. Keep up your deconstruction and this channel to help more and more people become enlightened. 👏👏👏

Excellent video. I really liked the analogy of the child given a knife among it's toys as a rebuttal to theist's view of free will. 19:16