This was an excellent production - well done! For some reason this story will always resonate with people, there's just something about it. At the very end, when you said "its been 25 years" and seeing 2Pac walking through the casino floor, it hit hard and makes you have a heavy heart. I was 17 in 1996, this was a lifetime ago.
@@charlesjohnson1574 the streets ALL know Poochie killed Biggie.. but yea keep thinking a dude from the Nation of Islam did it, like most others who follow social media. ✌️✊
The Las Vegas PD is never closing the case in a final effort to spite 2Pac. This is their payback for 2Pac's anti-police mentality and for shooting 2 off-duty police officers in Atlanta back in 93' and getting away with it. Police officers are very sensitive to shit like that so this is their way of saying fuck you to 2Pac and his fans. What they don't realize is that by closing the case once and for all it stops people from constantly bringing it up and questioning them about it. Having this case remain unsolved 25 years later is beyond ridiculous considering the Mt. Everest sized amount of circumstantial evidence that exists not to mention the last living participant in the homicide has wrote a book and given numerous interviews about what happened. There is no other explanation as to why this is still open.
Yes, If you want to take it further : 2pac got off with his lawyer Johnny the same lawyer from OJ. He declared the la pd as crooked cops who were set out to put a black male in prison. You also have his aunt I believe Assata who was a black panther and was put in jail for a crime she did not commit back in the 60’s. It was believed she killed a police officer ? She escaped from jail and ran off to Cuba. I guess it’s gets deeper..
@J Sanders what's even crazier is those are the brothaz from the same video/ pictures I've been seeing for 25 years and wondering like who are those guys? Are they just random fans trying to get an autograph? 25 years later the question is answered like nah they were soldiers on point.
Left out the part where South Side only saw 2pac because of the girls who were yelling their name out in the street. If they wouldn’t have yelled his name South Side would have not saw 2 pac on the strip… HUGE pivot point in this story.
@@Samtino20 maybe. But you gotta remember these chicks were groupies an looking for stars to roll up on. So even if he didn't hang out that car I bet they would've spotted him anyway cause they were lookin for it, him, anybody famous to get star struck ova an say I saw so an so! Either way they were gunning for pac and he was a marked man! They've all said if it wasn't that day it was coming regardless!
Keefe said during the proffer statement that they seen 2pac hanging out the sunroof of the bmw talking to some women in a car. In the same proffer, Keefe also said that they drove up and checked every car to see which car 2pac was in. So if they saw him in the bmw, why did they check the all the cars in the convoy? I smell bullshit.
I feel like Pac knew he fucked up after he did what he did. But Pac wanted to ride for Death Row cause he was a loyal dude. Pac's body language walking out the casino says it all.
What happens to the 13 on Baby Lanes jersey ? When that person is getting stomped there’s no nothing on that person’s shirt / jersey There’s nothing on it , let alone a LARGE BLAcK 13 Where’d it Go? Weird
@@kevinlee9929 if only he stayed in he's lane everybody would be sipping on Hennessey and eating lobster Kadaffi would've probably still be alive nigga could've rap he's ass off Suge would've still been on top
Some entity on the Federal / elitist level does not want this case or Biggie’s murder case to be solved; one case could solve the other. That’s one of the reasons why former LAPD dectective Russell Poole was murdered (heart attack my ass).
They don't want this case solved because it wasn't Orlando Anderson, he was the patsy. He was assassinated by crooked rampart gang member cops. If the case was ever to be solved Pac's and Big's family would own California.
Looking at the entire picture Suge and Keefee D was homeboys playing sports together; Birthday parties parents we’re friends;life changes best friends become strangers.
People are idiots. If I have a hit on someone, why would I be in the same car as the person I'm trying to kill? Especially when the shooters are gang bangers and not professional assassins. If Suge wanted Pac dead, he could have hired some professional hit men to get at Pac at his home and everyone would have assumed it was Biggie/Puffy/etc.
Believe me Diddy was and is Happy Pac was killed and I'm Certain behind the scenes he feels he played a part in it....being he was associated with the Crips for protection when they where out west
Yup. Was just a perfect storm. Revenge for the beating and a chance to cash out. Was already set in motion. The opportunity came to them that night.. 😐
He did it to himself... half brain should have known he shouldn't be out with all those guys,acting like a thug ..he should have stayed with just music and leave the " im so tough" bs out the door
An interview with Mike Klein, former head of security for Ruthless Records would be riveting. Fearing Suge, Jerry Heller hired Klein and his crew who were all former Israeli military. He was one of the few to put a scare into Suge.
There’s a reason why it’s still open, as of reasons that are more believable if they had a murder weapon along with everything else they can close it, but the thing is it takes more than word of mouth to close a case without anyone being convicted, it takes more than a confession and my criminal investigation professor couldn’t stress that enough
I seen cats get convicted on less info, so it's possible that this case can be closed. Some get convicted with no body found, each case is different, thats for sure, but as long we know who did it, they can keep it open, we know the truth, some of us been knew the truth over 20 years ago.✌🏾
Right its hard to convinct which just eyewitness and no murder weapon and just circumstantial evidence and hearsay / eyewitness is pretty good evidence but they always want physical evidence to back up the case . The District Attorney that is..also Vegas Is completely a Tourist based Economy , and they didn't want it known that gang bangers are out there killing people and getting away like that so easily
Sometimes that Word of mouth. Can become a matter in a court of law,the testimony of one witness alone can be enough to arrest,and prosecute,or find someone guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt. Mainly if that word of the mouth witness is accurate,and truthful,and they testimony makes out all of the elements of the crime,that could implicate that already suspected person or person's of commiting the crime of murder. What ppl need to know that the testimony of one single witness is crucial evidences alone without a gun DNA,or whatever. So all it could take is that one one of the mouth person to be truth coming and that's ball game,and the ppl with that word of the the mouth testimony in this case that was there have been fore coming since day one besides some who refuse to cooperate knows the true elements of the crime such as that one accurate word of the mouth witness,but they just won't snitch,but as far as the person who pulled the trigger who killed tupac Shakur which was Orlando Anderson. He's dead case closed as far as the actual killer being brought to justice for it but the masterminds behind the tupac Shakur assassination are still alive,and still needs to be brought to justice then will it be cared closed,but as far as the all the perpetrators,the case is far from close as far as other elements of the crime involving other ppl.
I grew up in Jamaica and I already knew Orlando Killed Tupac and this was in 1999 while I was in high school. My cousins grew up in LA and whenever they came back to Kingston they'll tell us story Blood & Crips. People in Kingston knew about Orlando because loads of Jamaicans live in America
Come on Vlad, we all know you can't have off duty officers and real Gang members together with puffy getting zip on his side and I believe if PAC and Biggie were alive today they would have been bosses and helped the youth of today, money never made me happy, after my son Frankie boy passed and then my Bro I was lucky enough to fight for my oldest daughter Lacey she is my pride and joy one love from England 💯
@@jasonwolfe3252 What? Arrogance? Did you realize he was associated with Mob Piru, hell he damn near was one. You don't understand gang culture so maybe you shouldn't speak on shit you don't know about.
Had a chance to visit the mgm grand labor day and somebody in security showed me this exact spot where the fight happened looks a little different now all these years later
That’s dope. I’ve been to the intersection he got shot at. Flamingo and koval. Also have pulled up to Pac’s calabasas mansion. His final home before he passed 🙏🏼
Before the fight broke out Tupac and kidda walked past she was holding tupac arm , and then the other tupac came and jump Orlando there was like multiple tupacs that night I would say three or exact
Will I succeed paranoid from the weed my Hocus pocus try da focus but I can't see and in my mind Im a blind man doing time look to ma future cause ma past is all behind meh!!!✊💪😎🔥✌🙏
I believe it wasn't Orlando who pulled the trigger but it was Keefe d who did it. He just put it on his nephew because he's dead. Thats why kadfi said he seen the shooter and it wasn't Orlando.
It does sound logical, but why would Orlando come back to Compton & brag HE did it & not his uncle. Also why didn't Suge just say that as well to the Mob Piru & DR crew that night. Knight just said SS Crips & not specifically Keiffe D. because he prolly didn't know Orlando by name.
@@roxxylala26 simple ego Orlando got a 1 punch from pac and dropped so after keefe popped pac Orlando went with it was he that killed him and keefe will have been fine with that he was a old school guy better someone else brags about killing pac totally takes the heat of keefe
This video definitely hit a nerve with me being a super Tupac fan so I decided to go on to Las Vegas police department and look for open cases since this an open case with the Vegas police department and crazy thing is his murder isn't even mentioned couldn't even find a case number for the case so Monday morning I'm calling the police department and asking for information on the case hopefully I get somewhere I will not rest until justice is served for pac
Becareful my friend went and asked them about the case and told them he was going to do some investigations himself to solve it for tupac and the fans well my friend has gone missing no one knows where he is it's been 9 weeks since they found his car wallet phone left in there parked in his driveway ....something sinister has happend to him one thing is they found a card holder with night club cards and brothel cards in it ....
That's crazy to still just see the footage of 2pac on camera and you would know later from that footage with him walking out of the MGM it would been raining bullets in the BMW sad smh. This should had not went down like that. 2pac was and still will be the greatest of all time!
Man Tupac as bright as he was he was still only 25 making mistakes unfortunately some mistakes on costly. Also the company you keep you will become. RIP to the legend wish he could been able to look pass the bs and focus on his career.
If you died, let me know Would your heart feel pain, watchin' as your mother cries? Would all your homies ride? Or would they all get high, and talk about how you died?
I dont mean this as a diss but I'm sure ppl will get mad at me for this cause its the internet but I think 2pac was one of those dudes that changed every time he was around a new group of people and always wants to be like them. 2pac was a good kid, he was into school and art and theater and shit and once he got into rap music he started getting in trouble because he was around new ppl and wanted to impress them. When he got with suge he was trying so hard to be like him and he got out of control. I remember 2pac saying biggie copied him and was trying to be down with thug life and I never believed that cause biggie never gave that vibe, we never heard biggie talk about that at all but we did see 2pac hanging out with big and puff and pac was wearing a shirt that said I'm a bad boy. When pac was with strictly dope and digital underground he was this fun hip hop kid, he starts spending alot more time with his bro mopreme and all of a sudden hes a conscious panther, the west coast blows up and pac is around gangsta rappers like spice 1,c bo and others and all of a sudden pac is having run ins with the cops,he is beating up movie directors, he's fuckin around with guns, a gun even goes off and kills a 6yr old boy, he goes to prison,comes home on death row rec and hes screaming M.O.B. and look how he acted. He made it what 9 months? He was such a smart dude but I think he felt insecure like gangstas wouldnt accept him unless he was one of them, it's a shame.
Tupac is my favorite rapper of all time but there is definitely some truth to what you were saying. I think he had an identity crisis because he moved around so much growing up he didn’t quite know where he belong or where he fit in at. And so any time he met someone or a group of people who showed him love or embraced him, he went extra hard for them. He was an extremely loyal guy but there’s a thin line between being loyal and being stupid. Again I completely idolize the guy but now that I’m a grown man I’m able to see him as a human being with flaws. And his need to always prove something ultimately was the cause of his demise.😔😔😔
That's not far fetched at all. A few people that hung around him even admitted that. Plus you can tell. Pac my guy but I been peeped that about him. He was a Dancer with Digital Underground, Acted like Bishop after he played that Roll, Rolling wit the Crips ear in his career, started rolling back in NY With Stretch and the YOUNG GUNS, Biggie and Junior Mafia, then Hatian Jack and his crew. Them sign to DeathRow and then become Mobb and Claiming LA and talking West Side..but wasn't talking that in Oakland or when he was hanging in NY. The Brother was All over the place. Pull up Kendrick Wells interview. He explains Pac without Malice. Pretty much said "Pac Wing it to Whoever he's around" but wasn't saying it in a disrespecting way just his experience with hanging with him...Great Interview though...
I agree. I mean let's really take a look, he was 22-24 years old at the height of his career. There's no one to really check him. People behaved a lot differently before the internet where you can see guys who look like clowns and then think to yourself "I definitely don't want to look like that guy." People just behaved how it felt normal to them. If you're famous then you're definitely not going to listen to other people. Tupac was talented and worked hard. But then he put his hands on a real G and he paid the price like anyone else would have. Fast forward to modern times and Chris Brown is saying he's a Blood or something? I'll never understand that. Why you'd aspire to be in a rough neighborhood forced to clique up to protect yourself. You've got money and hired security. What do you need a gang for?
NONE OF US REALLY KNOWS WHO KILLED 2PAC . BUT I FEEL THAT SUGE WAS TELLING US THE TRUTH WHEN HE SAID THAT THE PERSON WHO KILLED 2PAC WAS NOT THAT DUDE WHO WE THINK DID IT AND I BELIEVE HIM .
I remember years ago when I was a child before smartphones and the internet was really popular I used to sit up at night and wonder who killed Tupac it’s a question that always bothered me and I wanted to get to the bottom off because Tupac really mean’s alot to me. I’m glad that now we finally know who did this and that question is answered. Wish Tupac was still around though we lost someone really special and I wish that Tupac and Orlando Anderson could have solved their differences some other more peaceful way. RIP Tupac
Man me too bro, I really looked up to PAC when I was younger, I still fuk with PAC til this day I'm 30 now .. but I really wish they could of settled that problem another way besides shooting each other up. Smh. R.i.P Tupac Shakur we miss you big bro
@@riazamod8108 bro I'm telling you PAC would of been bigger than life if he was still around nowadays. It's just sad to lose that type of genuine soul. People lik that only come around once every blue moon fr.
Vegas PD obviously couldn’t care any less about closing this case. This murder was bad media for them in 1996 and it’s bad media for them today in 2021. It is what it is 🤷♂️
It clearly said on the report that he was a suspect in the shooting but they had no evidence. You cant put someone on trial with no evidence, no one was talking to the authorities.
They had the evidence after the Compton police gave them the gun that killed Pac found in Orlando's backyard and the fact that Keefe confessed multiple times. They can and should close the case but that'll involve the LAPD whose officers are involved in B8gs murder due to death row affiliations
Word of advise. Never assault someone. Whether it's a spit or a punch, you may never know the retaliation that the person is capable of. That wasn't Orlando's only murder either. He's killed before and after 2pacs murder
Art Of Dialogue was hot on Vlad's heels for a minute til Vlad said, "Alright, let me remind all these mofos who really runs this with these Deep Dive Series!" Good for Hip Hip journalism period. Regardless of how you may personally feel about Vlad, you gotta give that man his credit where it's due. Simple as that.
It's all lies ...they was paid to say orlando was the shooter...since he's dead ...nobody can confirm except him...but the truth is ...Police was behind his murder not Orlando
@@cousinblvck the hit was supposed to happen at club 662 but Tupac's bodyguard Michael Moore refused to not carry his gun so they took him off Tupac and sent him to club 662. Then they had police pull Suge and Tupac over to make sure their guns were in the stash box. No gang banger was pulling up to Death Row 15 cars deep with crooked cop security after a Tyson fight and emptying the clip unless they had the green light to do it. Keefe D knew who David Mack was.
Can it really be this simple tho? 2 really big questions remain: 1. How the fuck did they spot Orlando after the fight in the middle of MGM very crowded and busy place? Okay, I guess Trayvon happened to spot him in the crowd, and by chance they crossed paths at the right place and the right time. It could happen. 2. How the fuck did Keefe and them find 2Pac and Suge in the BMW in the middle of very crowded busy Vegas strip? Okay, I guess 2Pac was hanging out the sunroof and they just happened to spot them through the traffic on the crowded street. Again, by chance they crossed paths at the right place & time. It was unlikely that these 2 coincidences would occur, but it seems that's just what happened on that crazy Vegas night.
Yeah but things like that happen all of time. When Orlando got killed 2 years later, it just happened to be that he spotted the dude that owed his people's money at a car wash while he was at a burger joint. But 2 occurrences like that in one night is crazy.
Two things. 1) What I'd like to know is what happened to the white Cadillac? I've not heard a single word about it its location or discovery that tied to them. 2) Even back then, Vegas had cameras and those bozos couldn't have possibly made it out of there without passing by some of them - even if they were low quality - there should've been a trail because they were in a highly patrolled, public area. #2 was one of our hot topics during lunch at our school. We were full-fledge theorists!
The white Cadillac was rented by a relative of T-Brown. As a rental, it was returned and by the time Keffe's statement happened over a decade later, the car was in the wind, no records, etc. Had there ever been a prosecution in this case, it's something that would've probably been pursued, but it's unlikely any records would have been found after that much time had passed. As for #2, the intersection where this happened was a ways off the strip. Even today, there isn't much out there. There was a security camera at a gas station on the corner, but it only covered the entrance to the market, not the street.
@@themurderrap Do you know the model of the white Cadillac T-Brown drove? Seville? Deville? Eldorado? Fleetwood? I ask because I have a vague memory of Kenneth McClain saying that Frank Alexander said it was an Eldorado. Maybe we can find the Cadillac/more about the Cadillac if we know the model and ask Untouchable Sounds about it.
Knowing something and proving it beyond a reasonable doubt are 2 totally different things. Especially when you have people sharing info with you but won't ever be down to repeat said info in a court of law.
Excellent. I think that Keefe D is a high-level informant & that's why they won't move forward with any case he's involved with. Murder Rap is the definitive & most accurate documentary on this saga.
What’s a mystery to me is how did 2ac & suge leave 1st….. Orlando was able to talk to police meet with keefe d jump in a car drive to 626 realize he’s not there drive back to MGM & creep up a empty lane checking each car until ultimately finding 2pac…..Do you understand how jam packed traffic was at Mike Tyson fight….that night the fight was over in the 1st round…. Did these dudes just hover over traffic to the club & hover back to catch pac who left before them STILL in traffic….just makes me wonder
@@IceManLikeGervin You kidding me? You realize the odds of those girls yelling tupac at just the rite time to alert Orlando carpool to him? Suge wanting tupac dead was always the most braindead shit ever. he got hit in the fucking head.
Tupac didn’t beat that person up by himself. Ones need to stop with the Tupac got his payback crap, when it’s clear as day he was jumped by the Death Row Entourage. They could have gone after anyone in that convoy for that matter. This was a planned hit from start to finish. It’s that simple. Not no gang bang crap 💩 neither. Both Tupac and Biggie killers drove up on the right side of the their cars and made quick rights into the night. Both Tupac and Biggie had girls approach them moments before each shooting.
neckbone would know who shot at suge and tupac, hes still alive and got shot at trying to chase after the car... so he wouldve seen the shooter. im still not 100% sure it was orlando
just to clarify here tupac died a week later he didn't die on the spot he died on septemper 13th 1996 after he succumb to his injuries and gun shot wounds
@@marauderentertainment1323 😂 we don’t believe you. Have you also talked to Amir Muhammad ? Or David Mack ? Or Rafael Perez Because that’s who killed biggie according to eye witnesses who were present. FBI agent Phil Carson has already confirmed Amir Muhammad murdered biggie also. No matter how many videos you make 😂 We know the truth already. Greg Kading is a liar 🤥 LAPD DOESNT believe Greg Kading 😂 You can make videos until you leave earth We don’t believe you
@@samj458 he isn’t lying tho bro lol those are all facts , I say do some digging and you’ll find enough dirt on Greg kading , so much that you’ll never believe another word that comes out of his mouth
@@JimskiBeatz and I ain't saying I know who killed biggie at all . I'm on about tupac . Biggies I always thought it was southside crips when it happened but I don't know now whether it was crips , cops or pirus who knows but I don't believe that amir stuff
I was a teenager when this happened wow and that was big then too!!!! I always knew it was that dude and his crew... Two of the greatest talent had to die and look today one of the great mysteries of Biggie and Tupac.. I often wonder what they would be like today and what they would think of today's music.. STAY BLESSED 🙏🈂️☄️🧿💜