DEFEATER- Empty Days & Sleepless Nights (Full Album- Part 1) 

Jared Moore nah, its really not that original. they fit well within the hardcore genre. i like Defeater but yeah, not that original.

+Jared Moore Check out Have Heart and From Autumn to Ashes. Both musically similar bands I grew up with. You might be into them as well.

+Kevin Brown. yea I've heard of both I grew up with from autumn to ashes. a little different cuz they sing though.

+Eric defeater sure does have some really great gangsta rap going on :) I'd say they're almost as good as Katy Perry and taylor swift at it.

Agreed, these guys are fuckin nice.

i think thats a stupid opinion. this is a post hardcore revival band. if you are a fan of true and true hardcore you should in all technicality hate this. hoever you you just like the music in the progresion of punk through time this is actually alrigt stuff. like decent stuff but not mindblowing because its really nothing new but its also NOT HARDCORE its POST HARDCORE done 30 years after it was first stumbled upon

It's actually their lenght

Ohhh Ive never seen anyone put it like that and youtube hyperlinks the numbers to the corresponding time in the video so that is pretty confusing tbh

but its not. like it doesnt even clasify as hardcore. like if a music historian listened to this they wouldnt label it hardcore. they would label it an off shoot of punk but not hardcpre.

But the difference is that I don't give a single fuck if they are or not. And I don't think you are a music historian, by the way

oh im not by profession but that doesnt make a difference. this is posthardcore revival. just like la dispute and pianos become the teeth. like im not sure if you realise that hardcore was a music scene that exploded in the 80's underground? have you listened to black flag . this has every characteristic of posthardcore not hardcore. and you might say whats the difference? well theres a lot. stick to your guns is hardcore. your demise is hardcore, but alexisonfire is posthardcore. as is touche amore and iceage and this. and you might not care but it matters. it matters because people hate this on the grounds of incorrect labelling and it matters because all art is apreciated as part of a continuum

Kacimbe Do you know that hardcore doesn't necessarily mean that it's exactly the same as black flag? It's like saying Sunny Day Real Estate isn't emo because it doesn't sound like Rites Of Spring. Or that envy isn't screamo because it doesn't sound like Orchid. There are different off-shoots of hardcore. Defeater is like hardcore and melodic hardcore blended with "the wave" of post hardcore/screamo bands(like La Dispute, Pianos, Old Gray, etc.).

points to make 1. this is post hardcore. fugazi is post hardcore. big black is posthardcore, orchid is posthardcore, la dispute is posthardcore, old gray is posthardcore letlive is posthardcore, alexisonfire is posthardcore. but they dont all fit nicely together THAT is the beauty of music.. pianos, la dispute touche and oldgray fit together. they are a pocket of posthardcore that this has very little to do with musically regardless of who they are friends with. its like grouping frank ocean's musical style wiith the rest of odd future