Defeating Facial Recognition - Retia on Hak5 

sorry, but anyone who says "if you dont have anything to hide you shouldnt have to worry" sounds like someone who needs to be schooled on what privacy is and how / why people wants it

"If you don’t have anything to hide, you shouldn’t be concerned” Famous last words.

Whenever someone says "if you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be concerned"..be very very concerned

I am so Happy to see people in the comments section who actually value privacy ,keep it up guys spread the word

"China is an extreme case" she mispronounced testing ground.

The “ if you don’t have anything to hide then why worry about your privacy” is one of the dumbest most cowardly things modern people say.

"Extreme makeup can fool the cameras" but every person around you is now staring & calling the police on you for trying to defeat the cameras so that they can up their social credit score. Good job!

"If you're not a wanted person..." The problem is that authorities are capable of framing you as a wanted person. With facial recognition and DeepFake technologies authorities could spin things any way they want to, including making you into a scapegoat for whatever purpose.

“If you don’t have anything to hide, you shouldn’t be concerned” -> That’s BS. Violating privacy and full-on tracking is not ethical, it violates the core principle of being human. In the name of security, you shall not have secrets anymore and anybody from private companies, public institutions and/or simply the curious eye can know what you do on a daily basis? Unfortunately, you can’t battle efficiently against facial recognition or tracking in general. You would need to live in an area with no cameras, not have a mobile phone, no IoT and only paying in cash -> good luck to start doing this in 2020

"If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't be concerned." Those are dangerous words, and why we have the 4th ammendment.

"Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" Oh god, oh man. Oh god, OH MAN. OH GOD, OH MAN. *OH* *GOD,* *OH* *MAN.*

So, i was thinking: why dont we use cameras on our public administration buildings, specially where politicians are? Them, we the people can track their moves too, because, by logic, they are our employees...

“No need to be afraid” you people haven’t heard about the social credit system? Oh you have.... but you aren’t concerned that it will be here too or just that it doesn’t worry you. Is that because you will happily go along with whatever they order of you?

No way kody is on hak5! It’s amazing my two favorite channels combine

Facial recognition is anti-democratic and should not be allowed in a free democratic open society. The end

If you're not doing anything Wrong what do you have to worry about? Imagine world war 2 Germany with facial recognition

A great welcome to the non blinking guy!

1:07 ~ 1:16 ?? "Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech Because You have nothing to say"

"If you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't be concerned." This is the favorite line of every authoritarian/totalitarian dictator ever.

It is EXACTLY because I have nothing to hide that I deserve privacy!

This is How you end up up in the gulag.

There were people, trying to cover their faces in the test area of London. Those ppl. were stopped by the police and photographed against their will. Plus, they had to pay a fine for not wanting to support such a measure that can easily be used in a fascist manner. Several police forces use(d) facial recognition to identify BLM protestors. Technical 'solutions' without any legal framework to regulate them are too often used as tools for intimidation and oppression. The HOW is often equaly important, as the WHAT.

First part of her statement, "If you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn't be concerned" then she says, right afterwards, ... "you don't know what theyre doing with the data..." THAT'S WHY WE ARE CONCERNED!

and the system is overwhelmed by mass sightings of Guy Fawkes all of a sudden.

now, how about a pair of glasses with a QR code on the bridge that links to a rick roll? 😂

“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” Easy to say for people that probably whitelisted their face from detection lol

The person behind the camera knows EVERYTHING about us but we know NOTHING about them. If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, it will when you wake from the coma.

“ *Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it* .” “... *only those who have the will and the power to shoot down their fellow men, are the real rulers in this, as in all other (so-called) civilized countries; for by no others will civilized men be robbed, or enslaved* .” ― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority *"So these villains, who call themselves governments, well understand that their power rests primarily upon stolen money* . *With money they can hire soldiers, and with soldiers extort money* . *And, when their authority is denied, the first use they always make of money, is to hire soldiers to kill or subdue all who refuse them more money* ." *-The payment of taxes, being compulsory, of course furnishes no evidence that any one voluntarily supports the Constitution* . *It is true that the theory of our Constitution is, that all taxes are paid voluntarily; that our government is a mutual insurance company, voluntarily entered into by the people with each other; that each man makes a free and purely voluntary contract with all others who are parties to the Constitution, to pay so much money for so much protection, the same as he does with any other insurance company; and that he is just as free not to be protected, and not to pay any tax, as he is to pay a tax, and be protected* . *But this theory of our government is wholly different from the practical fact* . *The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life* . *And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat* ;. *The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets* . *But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful* . *The highwayman takes solely upon himself the responsibility, danger, and crime of his own act* . *He does not pretend that he has any rightful claim to your money, or that he intends to use it for your own benefit* . *He does not pretend to be anything but a robber* . *He has not acquired impudence enough to profess to be merely a “protector,” and that he takes men’s money against their will, merely to enable him to “protect” those infatuated travellers, who feel perfectly able to protect themselves, or do not appreciate his peculiar system of protection* . *He is too sensible a man to make such professions as these* . *Furthermore, having taken your money, he leaves you, as you wish him to do* . *He does not persist in following you on the road, against your will; assuming to be your rightful “sovereign,” on account of the “protection” he affords you* . *He does not keep “protecting” you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands* . *He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villanies as these* . *In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave* . *The proceedings of those robbers and murderers, who call themselves “the government,” are directly the opposite of these of the single highwayman* . *In the first place, they do not, like him, make themselves individually known; or, consequently, take upon themselves personally the responsibility of their acts* . *On the contrary, they secretly (by secret ballot) designate some one of their number to commit the robbery in their behalf, while they keep themselves practically concealed* . *They say to the person thus designated:* *Go to A- B-, and say to him that “the government” has need of money to meet the expenses of protecting him and his property* . *If he presumes to say that he has never contracted with us to protect him, and that he wants none of our protection, say to him that that is our business, and not his; that we choose to protect him, whether he desires us to do so or not; and that we demand pay, too, for protecting him* . *If he dares to inquire who the individuals are, who have thus taken upon themselves the title of “the government,” and who assume to protect him, and demand payment of him, without his having ever made any contract with them, say to him that that, too, is our business, and not his; that we do not choose to make ourselves individually known to him; that we have secretly (by secret ballot) appointed you our agent to give him notice of our demands, and, if he complies with them, to give him, in our name, a receipt that will protect him against any similar demand for the present year* . *If he refuses to comply, seize and sell enough of his property to pay not only our demands, but all your own expenses and trouble beside* . *If he resists the seizure of his property, call upon the bystanders to help you (doubtless some of them will prove to be members of our band)* . *If, in defending his property, he should kill any of our band who are assisting you, capture him at all hazards; charge him (in one of our courts) with murder, convict him, and hang him* . *If he should call upon his neighbors, or any others who, like him, may be disposed to resist our demands, and they should come in large numbers to his assistance, cry out that they are all rebels and traitors; that “our country” is in danger; call upon the commander of our hired murderers; tell him to quell the rebellion and “save the country,” cost what it may* . *Tell him to kill all who resist, though they should be hundreds of thousands; and thus strike terror into all others similarly disposed* . *See that the work of murder is thoroughly done, that we may have no further trouble of this kind hereafter* . *When these traitors shall have thus been taught our strength and our determination, they will be good loyal citizens for many years, and pay their taxes without a why or a wherefore* . *It is under such compulsion as this that taxes, so called, are paid* . *And how much proof the payment of taxes affords, that the people consent to support “the government,” it needs no further argument to show* . *Lysander Spooner (1870)*

Lemme fix that for you:"Because how much facial recognition is important to the future control of our society." Your way makes it seem charming & quaint and only bad people want to hide. Like all surveillance/military advertising usually, it's always for the betterment of society. Great episode, watching it with 3 non geeks now, ...theyre surprised at the low cost and possible uses both good & bad and all the countermeasures. Extra points for the juggalo experiment.

I'm so glad you guys are doing this we need more guys out there to fight against this technocracy

The problem with all of the strategies to evade facial recognition discussed in this video is that no one is going to go outside in public wearing large black stripes on their faces etc. In the real world effective facial recognition evasion techniques would have to be way more subtle than face painting.

I'm sure other than facial recognition that that our stride, pace, and body mannerisms along with weight and structure are being incorporated into these systems. Privacy is about a fond memory.

You got the null byte guy on your channel?

Saying I've nothing to hide because I've done nothing wrong is equivalent to I don't use my hand so I don't mind having my hand removed.

THIS is why you should not post pictures/locations/info in general on social media. YOUR PICTURES are what they are using to train these systems.

I've started leaving my phone at home more & more these days. The ATMs are spitting out clean new notes, and I've started using cash too since the damn google has profiled the bank cards and knows when i go out if i leave the phone at home. Australia.

Time to go emo again.

Null Byte meets Hak5? NICE!!

People call me crazy 🤣 when I read the terms and conditions/privacy policy. This is why 😭😭😤

"If you don’t have anything to hide, you shouldn’t be concerned" -MOST RIDICULOUS AND COMMENTED STATEMENT FROM THIS VIDEO This girl is clearly an example of someone with a lot of knowledge and no wisdom.

I just love love love the cybersecurity community collaboration that's happening these days!!

Please: - Follow up footage of IR LEDs embedded in, or attached to glasses/hat bills/brims. - Follow up regarding your stance on privacy would be good hear. Thanks for your time and consideration. And apologies for not hitting you up on Twitter. I don't use that drug.

A vendor of facial recognition technologies explained why the bridge of the nose is so important to facial recognition. The software detects the tear ducts, and the space between the 2 tear ducts on the left and right of the nose is relatively unique, and a great place to start calculating measurements between other facial areas.. the more you know.

I have been through the same facial recognition checkpoint at a casino, once without glasses or hat and the next with glasses and hat, it stated unrecognized the second time, I will keep changing up

Time to invest in a pack of Dollar Tree staches.

I miss Cyber Weapons Lab.

If facial recognition relies on blinking frequency, this guy is in the safe for sure :-)

i was arrested because of fecal recognition. it all stinks to me.

Could you also use ultraviolet paint which would be less detectable to anybody looking at you but picked up by cameras?

Facial recognition is easy to defeat, just take down the entire power grid or dispose of the people utilizing the system. Sometimes it is most effective to just take a sledge hammer to the problem (Gordian Knot-style).

Sounds FN lovely. People have no clue where this is all going. Good luck with all that.

Also, even after coronavirus, I'm wearing masks in public still. It's healthier for me and society, and it defeats facial recognition

3:50 neural networks are dark magic, but in the case of faces, it is understandable. Handcrafted methods also use eyes and nose to detect faces, it is just an obvious way to create a filter for images. The problem with the whole approach is the cheapening of RGBD cameras (with depth info). They tend to care way less about the nose area, as depth map is 3d

Ah, the old, "if you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't worry". THEY AREN'T TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE WITH 'THINGS TO HIDE'! They are trying to BE ABLE to find ANYONE! Beware facial recognition....

Hearing someone say they have nothing to hide is always amusing to me. Everybody has something to hide.

This video was awesome. I just found my NEW favorite YT channel. Thank You

20 yrs ago..AEGEAS drone could tell if your shoelaces were untied. Literally track 2.3 M people in real time .let that sink in

Yeah, with dark and bright zone you only trick the Haar detector. Once you have the eyeball you can measure the distance between the eyes. If the Python code uses some advanced AAM / ASM methods, it may be pretty robust. You can only trick a well-developed AAM/ASM if you are systematically going against its mesh parameter detection. You need to "widen" the face (I would suggest a skin-colored wig), maybe alter the position of the nose opening (drawing black marks as the continuation of the nose opening under or above). Try and modify the position of your eye by adding some white makeup next to the outer side of your eye (mimic the eye, no black spots. Black spots would result in a misdetection and the algorithm would probably approximate misdetected positions using some neighbouring detected points). These methods usually look for "corners" and "edges" in color contrast.

In that case, I want the gvt to declassify *EVERYTHING* no blackout

If you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be concerned. Well everyone should be very concerned.

I was at Panera restaurant which I used restroom ,the next day I was sent email for food. Wow, it’s being used

I'd love to see how the masks we all now wear affect facial rec

I think that's wonderful that we have technology that can tell a difference between male and female when the actual person doesn't even know themself

We should also avoid using cellular communication while operating in public sphere.

“China is an extreme case.” For now

This was a very good video, I enjoyed it. Only hurts to know that there's no way these method will work for long and I think we all know what this kind of technology will mean in the hands of powerful governments...

WAIT A SEC, is this a null byte/hak5 collaboration??? HOW RAD! LOVE BOTH!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK CODY!!!! U teach me something everytime i see you 😉

Keep up the good work, Iove your channel

for others interested in the Python Libraries: opencv-python & face_recognition

OK this threw me off for a second, nice collab tho!

Cyber Weapons Lab + Hak5 = Best Possible Outcome

In the days of pandemic, everyone is defeating facial recognition. Just wear your mask.

Modern systems use facial recognition as well as movement detection. This in combination is almost impossible to deafeat without a star wars type cloak that covers the entire body lol

You know facial recognition is being used for "nefarious" reasons when both Mark Zuckerberg and Bill gates purposely block their web cameras

Super interesting! Great work!

I've had a lot of success defeating facial recognition by letting my nose hair grow to it's natural length. And, as an added bonus, my success with the ladies went dramatically up! who knew?

The solution to automated, mass, surveillance is to make the data accessible by everybody. When the politicians realize we can find them committing misdeeds, they will realize the consequences outweigh the benefits.

Hey it would’ve been great to see the light attach to the glasses demo

Wearing clothing with lots of faces on it also works. The system looks for faces, so let's give it some to look at. Then make your own face less recognizable as a face. The system expects a face to have 2 eyes, so wearing a cap with 2 eyes on them recognizes your cap as a face.

Very interesting. Also, very informative. Thanks.

I like the colab!

Juggalo's can beat facial recognition

Nice Invention , good luck to your team ❤️

Just going to put this out as a software developer. Facial recognition is going to get vastly better in the near future. We can already map one person's face onto another. How hard do you think it will be to clean up an image of stuff like makeup? Not real hard. Probably the most assured way of defeating facial recognition is simply to make sure it can't see you to start with. Blinding the camera with high power UV (yep UV not IR) can be done rather easy. Just make sure you aren't looking at the light source when it's on. If it's powerful enough to blind the camera it's powerful enough to cause permanent eye damage. If you a real crazy way to defeat facial recognition. People pierce their faces all over these days. Imagine they use a micro LED in those piercings. To cops and so on it's jewelry. nose stud, cheeks, eye brow, lips and so on...

Celtic face paint finally making a comeback

3:50 In the future all criminal gangs will be Juggalo.

Quite an informative video. The tech has indeed moved along

There's a certain irony that someone with a face tattoo could be the electronic "grey man" of the future.

I've heard smiling confuses many facial recognition systems that rely on bones in the face (that's why they don't allow you to smile in passport photos)

Okay, my facial recognition says that’s Kody....

“If you don’t have anything to hide, you shouldn’t worry” - that’s how all dictatorships started. You only have nothing to hide until powerful people decide you’re a problem. That’s history.

Kody!! I didn't know you were branching out! Subbed!

"If you don’t have anything to hide, you shouldn’t be concerned”. Stopped watching at that point

How about a beard or other facial hair vs. clean shaven.

Met a Broward County cop down in Sosua back in 2013 who told me they were already using facial recognition in their patrol cars.

As an unemployed super villain. "I look forward to trying this out."

This guy is definitely an android, he never blinks :O

Was hoping he'd blink on another channel 😂

Thanks a lot man 👍😃

Are there any plastic films that are transparent to visable light, but reflective to infrared? Maybe small dots on the face would confuse the system.