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The only reason that guy won DBZ vs naruto is because he argued louder and more passionately than the other guy. Everything he said goku did, naruto also did, uniting the people around him? That is something Naruto’s legacy is known for. Did naruto not go on a huge journey of training various things to get to his stronger forms? And also turning the beast of hatred onto his side? Just because you can argue louder don’t mean you won, naruto dude shoulda got in there more
I totally agree with you, Naruto hands down is a better protagonist than Goku. Naruto showed sympathy to all his enemies and forgave the people who treated him like a monster his whole life.
I agree that Naruto is a better protagonist but it goes down to who debates better the dragon ball guy was bringing up lots of good points and supported them while the Naruto guy also put up some pretty good points but was unable to support it
@@austinotka7196 pretty much hey, I was watching hoping he’d get in there more but in the heat of the moment, I guess DBZ guy got more of an arguement in, more points in.
Dude arguing for Naruto won for me until he started coming for the random dude's friends outta spite 😭 but fr tho he cooked on the arguments but no one was listening shonen brain tookover at that point
Mate naruto shouldve won. The guy arguing for dbz shouted like a little kid and this shows naruto is overhated because all dbz kids care about is their strength and not character, they dont look past a man chasing his friend. They wish they had a friend at all man like what in the fuck
@@ZephyR7GI feel like the person who argued for goku sholuve done better but I can agure about goku s character and not just bring up his strength every 5 seconds, I respect Naruto but bro their are some moments that made me just disappointed in Naruto
to be naruto lost when guy brought up "being a bad dad". naruto is objectively worse in that are than goku. goku is alien you can argue he dont know better as he never had a father, closest to father figure was granpa gohan but even that does not eliminate the fact goku is alien and dont understand human social cues and cultural needs. Naruto on other hand is character built on the shoulders of a kid who grew without a parent. the scene on the swing showing how much being an orphan affects him... naruto has no excuse for neglecting his children let alone forget about their birthday
@@frankcayseron8637He never forgot about their birthday. He showed up with a shadow and was overworking himself as the Hokage. Him neglecting his kids was when he started working as a Hokage and that problem was resolved at the end of the movie.
you still cant defend him compared to goku in terms of being bad dad. goku did not know better and he still did whats best for his son given the circumstances. he died to give him chance to train and even trained himself while being dead to become strong enough to protect his son again with no reference of what it means to be father or to be human. on other hand naruto's big part of his character is being orphan and inheriting lot of his father and mothers traits so his parental ancestry is crucial plot point and his orphan upbringing is core of his character. for him to neglect his children because he was "busy at work" is way worst than anything goku did in terms of being parent given their respective circumstances. i am on naruto side in terms of anime and i would give it to naruto over goku every time especially in terms of who is better protagonist but there is no benefit of doubt that goku is better father@@tricktreat688
Yo! Naruto should win that round as the protagonist because it's all about being relatable to the audience. Being a human with humble beginnings as an orphaned outcast, and having dreams of becoming Hokage, resonates with many who have experienced loneliness or felt like outsiders. He also undergoes significant personal growth, transitioning from an impulsive and reckless child to a responsible and wise leader. We all start as weak crybabies at first and make plenty of mistakes in life that many people find it hard to forgive, but Naruto forgives everybody, which is one of the hardest things to do. He also cherishes others, making him even more relatable, and that's what makes him a great protagonist. He imparts many valuable life lessons through his journey. ✔
@@Kev_0_0_nope. If you think Goku is as well written and has as good character development among other things as Naruto you’re clueless no offence. Naruto is clearly the better protagonist
@@HitchyBruh I get how people say Naruto, but goku also did the same as Naruto like make enemy’s his freinds, forgiving freiza someone who killed his parents and his race, he also does cherish others. Goku is an alright written character but he’s not bad
Naruto has more heart and thought into his character like he was arguing he is all about others and his village whereas goku just wants to fight and train because he's addicted to powering up.
I agree I love DBZ, but Goku just wins everytime just because he's goku. In Naruto there are a lot more ninjas involves that need to help and it's more collective IMO.
@@chuckeiiu know how long shippuden would be if they had to give all them side characters shine every other damn episode? Should they have kept lee and probably neji in the forefront? Probably so yes, BUT the pace of the story went just fine for me
@@chrissaint-louis488 to play the devil's advocate, shippuden would be much more enjoyable to watch if instead of all the fillers that made no sense and had no value to the canon lore and always make naruto look like an idiot cause you cant give protagonist any development in filler arcs cause it affects the canon they actually polished out the characters that were shunned upon in manga. if fillers in shippuden were focused around other characters and created illusion of "this is what they are doing while naruto is fighting pain" etc... filler would be much more bearable to deal with
One piece fights hold so much more meaning and the story around everything/ the impact is unmatchable. But Jjk is way more visually pleasing based off choreography and animation. That round coulda gone either way it just depends on how you are rating
Agree, it's up to what you prefer. I never even thought about arguing in that direction for One Piece, because it's fights I automatically assume One Piece lost lol, but that G5 guy did an amazing job making a case for One Piece.
True. Although something I'd point out is how almost every fight in One Piece is memorable from Arlong Park onwards while for JJK there's not as memorable for me. And like you said, One Piece is all about the impact a victory has on the show which is more than JJK has to offer on a regular.
I think it isn't fair to count the build up emotions from 1000 ep into the fight. I think bottom line the fight category should be only about the nicest fighting scenes so that both anime can compare (otherwise obviously OP gonna win). If you do take out the unfair emotion edge that one piece, i think its pretty close but i'd give it to JJK. If category was "peak", now you gotta value the emotion and OP easy clap.
Jjk fights are better than one piece’s, no I’m not biased, I have literally been a die hard one piece fan since I was a kid. Jjk fights are based on strategies, assumptions and critical thinking. It’s solely not based on just punching, kicking or trading moves just like one pieces. I might say that one pieces fights aren’t my cup of tea, probably because excessive flashing lights and unnecessary effects every frames. But jjk fights are more clean because mappa’s abilities to animate human or human liked creatures are top notch.
On that Naruto vs Goku this man just steamed past the fact that Naruto trained to get stronger to retrieve Sasuke. he had to deal with Orochimaru he knew he had to get stronger cause Sasuke would'nt come quietly its the whole reason he was training with Jiraiya.
Let’s be honest naruto barely got stronger after the time skip he learned some new abilities and stuff and got older which means he also got physically stronger but it wasn’t that much of a boost in power, like he should have gotten even stronger if he is being trained by a legend
Fr tho, I don't think DBZ could've beaten One Piece in the peak category, but he could've brought up some Gohan moments, like with Piccolo, or Gohan SSJ2, or Vegeta character development arc, or maybe Goku's first kamehameha in OG DB, or the father-son Kamehameha.
I know it's all relative but how Naruto isn't a better protagonist than Goku is wild. Talking about "lost and came back" is literally the definition of Naruto and never giving up.
Bro the point is to defend your anime and the guy clearly was just better at that although I do agree Naruto is better protagonist he wasn’t defended as well as goku was in the video and I wouldn’t say that he was “speaking endlessly and loud” because he let the other guy talk but the guy defending Naruto was yelling while he was defending goku saying “he’s searching for data” or something
@@GokuSon-so8lothe guy defending Naruto wasn’t yelling at all lmao, the entire time the Goku defender had a raised voice to the point of yelling at times and definitely had far more time to talk
It's a shame that FMA: Brotherhood didn't get to shine as it should have since there are so many amazing characters with depth and nuances in that show. Roy Mustang, Ling Yao/Greed, Scar, the Armstrong siblings etc
Fmab is so good and I would argue it’s the best all around anime of all time but I just think some anime are better for me like aot and bleach and hxh but Fmab is goated
There’s no way dbz won that round against naruto based off that argument alone. Dudes argument boiled down to how strong Goku was, he didn’t say anything about his actual character, then mentioned things that Naruto ALSO did.
You’re dead wrong. Bro that was arguing for Naruto literally insulted the actual people to he was speaking to. He was more concern how to belittle other person in the debate and speak facts. Bro is a douche bag and definitely needs some anger management help. You should not be a father if your first step in anything is insulting someone and tearing them down
The winner was supposed to be based off the arguments presented and no bias. The one who hod to decide was literally like 'Naruto is a cheeseball' basing it completely on his bias INSTEAD of the arguments.
"then mentioned things that Naruto ALSO did." Goku did all the shit before naruto was even made. The other guy was being bias as hell as well, dont look past that. If you were actually paying attention he mentioned gokus parenting, how he affects people around him, and how much determination he has. You will look at my pfp and say im bias but all im doing is saying how it is.
@@ShonenShowdownare already disagree with this but appreciate the content always keep up the good work but I think Naruto is way more better new Dragon Ball super cuz in Dragon Ball super they change Goku character from smart to an idiot
@@ShonenShowdownI know this dude trying to sit there and say that Naruto is better than Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood that's why I started having a problem with it Naruto is not better than Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood that is the greatest anime series of all time it's an old classic just like Samurai Champloo Cowboy Bebop Trigun Badlands Rumble scribe cashier and sins
This was a nice vid, cause normally when rob does these con vids. So many anime’s get dissed, or crapped on or strays. But there weren’t all too many this time. I came in expecting one piece to get disrespected, but none of that. None of those calling anything trash, for the most part respectful debates. That’s what it’s about, instead of those people that just call everything trash or mid. Or try and diss the structure of the story instead of the actual execution. And by structure I mean things like length, tone, how grounded it is, realism, etc basically the factors that inherently make up a story because of how it was envisioned. Which was good to not see those brought up because those don’t effect the quality, merely the execution.
Jjk losing in fights is actually WILD after all of the stuff they have pulled off in season 2 especially. I feel like any anime against one piece is just doomed 😭
@jalalbkI’m sorry one piece is my second favorite anime but fights aren’t really there forte it’s more of the story behind those fights just fighting itself JJK has it
bro in fights we are also talking about emotional aspects and buildups for the fights and in emotional aspects jjk isnt even close in jjk thers comes gojo and fights are over so thats not what we wanted thats why gege has to kill him to make other people shine
This is an argumentative video. And in this case it was whoever makes the better argument wins. For example i think Fullmetal has a WAY and i mean WAY better cast. Like it blows Naruto out of the water but the guy who was arguing for Naruto made it sound way better. He had better points than the guy defending Fullmetal did so id have to give it to Naruto despite disagreeing. Just like how even if you think JJK has better fights the guy just didn't explain it that well, there's some aspects of JJK fights that i love more than OP fights despite being a hardcore OP fan but he just didn't explain its strengths well.
As someone who grew up with naruto but recently fall in love with one piece after watching the live action (Still watching the anime, ooh boy there's a lot of episodes), this one is extremely difficult. One piece is great, I'm currently in the alabasta arc, there were a few ups and downs in other arcs but so far it's a great show but on the other hand naruto is so nostalgic. I gotta give this one to naruto, too much memories watching naruto with my older brother.
I love both but naruto beats one piece for me in terms of pacing, fight, emotional moments and of course soundtrack, I have to skip a lot of one piece or I loose interest, but the world building is on another level and who doesn’t love pirates. I’ll be sad when it’s over because I don’t think they’ll be anime’s on the level of one piece and naruto again.
I haven’t seen OP but I can see that it is probably better than Naruto bcoz almost everyone says so but there’s no way anything is replacing Naruto’s nostalgia. I grew up with the ninjas. I have seen a lot of other animes like HxH, AoT and it’s still my favourite along with those two and it’s always going to be.
Shoulda given MHA to the guy with the UA highschool shirt 😭 like there’s many emotional MHA moments like the ‘you can be a hero’ moment, Deku using everything to protect Koda from Muscular, Eri’s backstory and being repeatedly killed by Overhaul and then Deku finally rescues her, Bakugo’s apology, Nighteye, Midnight and twice’s deaths, shoto’s backstory, All Might vs AFO, the entirety of season 6 and the manga rn is emotional bruh 😭 not saying it’s more than DBZ but most DBZ emotional parts only revolve around death and nothing deeper.
My god, everything single episode in that show is an emotional roller-coaster, she literally could have recapped the first 5 mins of episode 1 and it would be sold.
@@galacticgeek2616 exactly like people can hate MHA all they want but not thing it ALWAYS gets right is the emotion. Like even now is S7 we’ve gotten even more emotional moments and once again the manga is even more emotional now. All ik is that if I was there I would’ve answered that question like my life depended on it 😭
Honestly, if this were any other format, FMAB clears Naruto in cast. So many underutilized characters in Naruto and almost all characters in Brotherhood had a role and none of the important characters are almost universally considered useless. Also, I gotta agree with Jared/Anime Sundays. The dude that fought for One Piece just gave better points and he also provided a few examples to back up his point.
@@Coldskin1 to add to this list piccolo protecting gohan, Vegeta struggling internally after his pride gets trunks hurt at the end of the cell games, Vegeta's death on Namek, Goku's sacrifice at the cell games, Goku telling everyone that Gohan/Vegeta have died, etc.
Last two the judges were bias,, dbz peaks are way more iconic than one piece,, plus 25 years of it and arlong park was his counter to ss1 and they agreed lol
@@pophollowtipsthe thing with that is that One Piece is a more story focused anime compared to DragonBall which is more battle centric. 90% of DragonBall peaks come from 'Oh cool, Goku/ someone gets a new from' and the such. Which is cool don't get me wrong but One Piece has a lot more Variety it has sad peaks like when Going Merry sacrificed herself, it has hype peaks like Robin saying she wants to live and it has battle peaks like Gear 5. Atleast to me One Piece just made me feel alot more than DBZ but, hey that is just my opinion the topic of Peaks is heavily Subjective.
Cmon man MHA got the emotional moments starting from episode 2 "young midoriya, you too can be a hero" all the way from Iida telling Deku "butting in where you dont belong is the essence of being a hero" 😭. I'm sorry im all the comments 😂
@@fyecofivegeta sacrificing himself against buu? Goku ssj1 vs frieza? Dbs beerus movie? I think my hero has better emotional moments but it's not as one sided as a lot of people are making it sound
@@lakewood145jjk is getting so over hyped that people are starting to call it the best new gen anime and that doesn’t make sense to me because Haikyuu, COTE, love is war, and mob psycho are all way better in my opinion
no offence dude but DB PEAKS compared to one piece, the guy you debated could've used countless arguments but he didn't know db as good as you know one piece, DB is literally known for the hype it generates and peak moments no other anime has come close to, wither in fights or in a cultural impact way. If you debates a person who was as big a db fan as you are a one piece fan you wouldve lost. But no hate bro just saiyan! P.S Luffy í NOT a better goku, goku is what goku should be, you may like luffy better, but goku is exactly what makes goku special as a character, he's not a worse luffy, he's goku.
@@romart03 Hey I get your point bro but I’ll still humbly disagree lol I think what makes a peak PEAK is when it brings you back up from the lowest lows and huge payoffs. No other show can take me to the emotional lows one piece can and bring me back up while bringing together so many moving pieces. Don’t get me wrong I love DB to! Like many it was one of my first anime and I’m actually rewatching it for like 4th right now 😂 I honestly wish he would’ve touched on more of its peaks to because it didn’t feel like it was a hard enough debate and I know what DB brings to the table. And it’s cultural impact can’t be denied but just because a moment is more well known doesn’t make it better in my opinion. P.S my bad I didn’t mean that he was a better Goku I just feel like people misinterpret Goku into being like this hero character which he isn’t and I love him for that, whereas luffy has his similarities to Goku but you’re never confused as to who he is or what he’ll do. Lol I don’t think I would’ve lost but it would’ve been fun to go bar for bar, but like you said it’s all love
Most emotional moment for db goes to vegeta when he blows up with buu. If you knew vegetas personality and all that, you see how significant that act was.
how in the fuck did naruto lose in protagonism? All that guy stated was strength development. You wish you had a friend like Naruto, and there is so much bias in that guy who decided.
I agree one piece is the best anime like hell we havent had all of the future fight against world government and fight against blackbeard d teach. We had katakuri, doflaningo, big mom, kaido, arlong fight then zoro cutting steel defeating mr l you also had the guy from wano where he defeated the flame dude vs dragonball im being honest havent seen it
@@Coldskin1 i mean those are like the only 2 good emotional moments in dbz. All the other deaths and sacrifices weren’t sad to me because Ik they were just gonna be brought back with the dragon balls
@@PnuggzWasn't very explore in Dragon Ball unless you count the movies or ovas but I don't think it did. Though I do agree Dragon Ball deserve the win
@@Statue_of_god unfortunately any shonen with a passionate protagonist is gonna compare to naruto it’s just a god father anime now compared to newer generations lol
DB honestly shouldn’t have made it past the first round. The people debating against it just didn’t do a great job, to be honest. Also, I feel like people just look at it like “DragonBall is classic. Nothing beats it.”
As someone who has read it twice in recent years, it still holds up incredibly well today. Maybe it's because people haven't seen it in a long time or just incompletely, but once you get into it, it's legitimately great. TotallyNotMark makes great videos on it if you want to know more
If you're up against Naruto with "Cast" you GOTTA attack the female characters!! That was a gimme! lol My mans mentioned all of those characters and not 1 single female character cmon lol
Bro did you here the argument the dbz guy barely seid anything and there are more peaks in one piece then db so kind of makes sense every ark is a new peak
@@thundergod7344nothing come close to goku's first ssj, ui vegeta's final atonement and gohan's ssj 2 one piece doesn't have any moment that can top that
@@ares6264 ok then But sorry to say that One piece is in a league of it's own Dragon ball was too but now it's time has gone Dragon ball already had it's peaks whereas one piece is still ongoing. And who knows how many peaks are more to come
that was fun :D remarkable how ppl remember so many details of the plot and scenes - tbh i probably would fail debating with so detailed explanation about particular scenes and fights i remember the animes more in general than detail
I can’t believe it cam down to my two favorite anime’s and to this day is still do not know witch one is better, I grew up with Dbz, but one piece has so much depth
I love one piece, but counter point on the one piece vs DBZ debate. All I heard about Gear 5 for weeks which was supposed to be its peak in the middle roof piece was that it was going to be this generations Super Saiyan and it failed at doing that. This also shows how high the original Super Saiyan transformation was.
I think in terms of fights, JJK would've won because of the weight of the hits, the choreography and the animation. Then naruto should've won for character because Goku doesn't have much to him except getting stronger and never giving up. The Finals should've been naruto vs jjk with Naruto winning the Peaks. Even then DBZ should've won against OnePiece in terms of peaks because it was the founding anime that millions of people watched for every new transformation and don't get me started on Ultra Instinct, Black Goku, Future Trunks and SS4 (even though it's non canon)
Yeah, but the Naruto cast at least has more depth to the characters than the Fullmetal does even with some of the side cast has been forgotten they’re still better than full metal
I love this idea. But I think you should add a layer of making them randomly pick a character in that anime and have them face a scenario test. Make up a scenario and see who would win that challenge and do a best like 5/7 fun questions and then move that anime up the tournament bracket. It’s a fun way of seeing your favorite characters and anime in new situations and kind of like brainstorming a cross over episode of what if these anime’s worked together and how it would turn out. Like a conversation between madara and Levi on the same team working on something. That would be crazyyyy😂
DB has way more emotional moments. MHA is a more "human" show but DB easily has the better emotional moments. Literally no main character in MHA has died so idk why you bringed up that "no one dies" argument. They fake killed Bakugo twice, that's worse
Dragon ball is emotional but My hero should of won that category My hero is emotional from episode 1 Deku saving Bakugo,All might choosing Deku to be the next holder of one for all, Deku defeating the 0 pointer, Deku getting into UA, Deku vs Todoroki , Deku vs Muscular, Deku vs Bakugo 2nd fight , Deku vs Overhaul,Deku vs Shigaraki an that just a fue moments that are emotional there are other characters with emotional moments Bakugo Ochaco Kota Mirio Eri Endevour Kirishma President mic Eraser head. Come on now.
Correct me if im wrong, but didn't the whole tournament of power, where if you lose your universe gets erased, start because goku decided to yap to zeno about wanting to fight strong people. And somehow bro won protagonist
Not true at all. Zeno was planning to destroy ALL THE UNIVERSES without giving them any chance to survive. By reminding Zeno about the tournament, Goku gave everyone a chance to survive. The deities even said they should thank Goku
