Absolutely. The Muslim philosophers are stuck on philosophical arguments not realising that they have advocated for the atheist logic. They have conceded to the atheist by reading their books while the atheist has never read the Qur'an or hadith at all or not entirely.
That is one of the hidden things of deception that a person need to be careful with. This happens when a person doesn't study the method of how the Messenger of Allah gave dawah in detail, or how the Companions invited people to Islam.
@@MuhammadAli-mz4pq ameen. Muhammad SAW simplified the Dawah when he SAW had to convince people at the time he was a living prophet and messrnger at the same time.
Alhamdulillah that there are brothers like you, without emotions, without hype, without show, just giving us the pure knowledge. May the haters hate it and the lovers follow that. Barak Allahu fiikum ikhwaan. May Allah give you the best in dunya and akhira and forgive you your sins.
I was having a doubt on some English preachers until I found Shamsi and brothers... Since I started watching speakers Conner videos on RU-vid I had my doubts on some individuals likes of M hijab and Ali Dawah. I’m not a scholar but I can at least indentify scholar among preachers. Alihamdulilah am not ignorant of my deen. I’m sallafi I love Shamsi and brothers out there
If anyone cannot see its deen then they need to check themselves. What is it they are following? Jazak Allah khairen brothers. We need our deen to be preserved at all times.
Mashallah, jazakallah khayran brothers. There are alot of muslims being misled by philosophy in the guise of so-called intellectualism. Like you said, rasool Allah saw explained things perfectly, in few words, with in-depth meaning, where all could understand. This is how those of true intelligence make their points known. Their ego leads them to believe that they are more intellectual to turn to Philosophy to explain Islam, when in reality they are only more ignorant. May Allah guide them and protect from this misguidance spreading.
It's simple , did the prophet ﷺ and the Sahaba may Allah be pleased with them use philosophy ?? No ? Then its an innovation , and every Innovation is a misguidance and every misguidance is in hellfire .
@@sweetiepie4328 you either guided or misguided, guided by way of Quran and sunnah, or misguided by shaytan, you evil soul, desires, or misguided scholar etc we ask Allah for guidance and ease
Unfortunately, many young Muslims think that using philosophical arguments somehow makes you look smarter. We've the Quran that is divinely revealed by the creator of this universe. If we don't use the Quran as our criterion, then we're deluding ourselves. How can any sane person take or adopt manmade philosophical arguments to be superior than the Quran and Sunnah? If someone still persists on using Aristotelian logic, then that person has reached the pinnacle of stupidity and delusion. May Allah (SWT) guide the sincere. Ameen!
@It's a Journey May Allah (SWT) ease their situation. Ameen! As a Muslim, I feel sad that I cannot do anything for my Palestinian brothers and sisters. Unfortunately, the Ummah is weak and this was actually prophesized by our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). In any case, take care of yourself, brother/sister.
The way of being grounded is the way of the believer... Ka'b b. Malik reported on the authority of his father that the similitude of a believer is that of a standing crop. The wind sometimes shakes it and sometimes raises it up and then it comes to its destined end. And the similitude of a hypocrite is that of a cypress tree which is not affected by anything but is uprooted once for all. - Sahih Muslim 2810b Not being grounded in Salafiya for bida/desires is the way of the fallen... Narrated Thawban: The Prophet (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No,... but you will be scum carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn (enervation). He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death. - Sunan Abi Dawud 4297 (Sahih Albani), Book Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim) In conclusion : Thawban narrated that the Messenger of Allah(peace and blessings be upon him) said: "I only fear for my Ummah from the misguiding A'immah." He said that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "There will never cease to be a group from my Ummah manifest upon the truth, they will not be harmed by those who forsake them until Allah's Decree comes." - Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2229, Chapters On Al-Fitan
Mashallah ahlul sunnah do not sit idle but rather they defend and clarify the truth defending the deen of Allah with knowledge based refutation and how many a people came to the know the truth firstly by Allah permission after by way of the knowledge based refutations of ahlul ilm
You have a point; using philosophy makes understanding more complicated than it should. I think it should only be used only as a tool if people were wondering into the philosophical specifics. But generally we should use the more common topics especially the Quran and sunnah.
Over three years ago Shamsi mentioned there would be a very detailed video made about the marriage of our Mother Aaishah رضي الله عنها. Also last year Shamsi mentioned there will be a series about the terrible outcomes of rebellion against governments. And lastly, a video series about Islamic history in Spain. Any updates?
Thank you for bringing this to light I told hijab multiple times that he’s tiptoeing on a line that will cause more harm than good in the long run I did my part alhamdulilah to advise him so I wouldn’t be held accountable on the day of judgement I pray Allah forgives him
Wallahi I would give hundreds of excuses for my brother in Islam before assuming anything but The way they venerate Aristotle and Socrates is insane they place their saying n them at a higher levels then our ulumaa those who sacrificed their entire lives to the religion and even died for it
Ppl attach themselves to personalities, characters, people and not the truth. What did Shaykh Al Albani advice ya Muslim?! "The truth is not known men. Rather, know the truth and you will know the men"! Islam is not so low and generic like all other religions and philosophies that we have to be like them and use their methods. Be proud that we go with the truth wherever it may be, whatever harm may befall us because of adhering to it, whatever loss may occur that is actually a profit! May Allah keep us stern on the truth and away from ghuluw
Ameen. Unfortunately it’s far too easy to get attached to personalities if your only source of knowledge is small video clips. May Allah protect us from the fitan.
Assalamu aleykum dear brothers. Ustaadh Shamsi said 'May Allah have mercy upon him' in regards to Ustaadh Abu 'Iyaad. Has our dear brother and teacher returned to Our Lord? I'm asking because I haven't heard any news regarding this. BarakAllahu feek.
I watched very few of M Hijab's videos and always thought M Hijab being very arrogant and rude. But when he bad mouthed a muslim brother for correcting him about philosophy and disputing (more like calling nasty names) to that brother about a Hadid where Rasulullah(SAWS) permitted only one person to breast feed to an adult, he lost all my respect.
If an atheist goes to University, studies philosophy then comes to conclusion based on philosophical ideas that Allah is real and Islam is correct, is he still an Atheist?
A better question would be: If a person believes that Allah is the only Creator, Provider, Controller of universe and all that is in it, does this belief enter him into Islam i.e. is he a Muslim?
Salaam, several times it is mentioned ".. this will lead to denying attributes ....". I haven't seen or heard where Mhd Hijab or H. Tzortzis ever denied any of the attributes of Allaah. Please show us where. I don't see how their arguments for the finitude of the universe or the existence of a necessary being or the existence of a first mover led to or can lead to the negation or denial of Allaah's attributes - in fact they indicate or confirm basic attributes of the Creator, the Uniquely Divine Being.
In the articles Abu Iyaad mentions that he doesnt accuse MH of being a denier of the attributes of Allah. However, he calls him out on not being consistent using the arguments because if one studies Islamic history and creed, he will quickly come to see that the ‘Islamic philosophers’, all of them denied at least some of and in some cases all of Allah’s Names and Attributes. This is because of the tenants of the arguments.
And what it is built upon necessitate that you negate the Names and Attributes to stay consistent. This is the danger of using words like ‘part less’, ‘space less’, ‘time less’ and so on. I recommend you read the story of jahm ibn safwan for further clarity may Allah bless you
If you use it the way the Quran describes it then yes no problem with that for example , Allah (SWT) says in the Glorious Quran in Surah Fatir ( 35:15 ) “O mankind, you are those in need of Allah, while Allah is the Free of need, the Praiseworthy.” Hope this answers your question.
The contingency argument is an argument not founded upon the Quran and the Sunnah. The muslim scholars have warned against using this argument in dawah as it is harmful and can be used against you as it relies upon weak foundations that are not founded in the Quran and the Sunnah may Allah guide us
@@kebbz8289 Salaam, is there any part of the quran, where you can relate it to or support with the contingency argument?anything specific, jazakAllah khairun again for your insight.
As a laymen my understanding is that there needs to be a chain of transmission (allowing scrutiny) from where our Islamic knowledge has been acquired. Can you please provide a complete chain of transmission going back to the a) ‘madhab of the salaf’ b) ‘knowing the salaf’ and the ‘books of the salaf’ to support your claims. A direct question requires a direct response. Anything else is diversionary which in turn is deceit, and therefore the testimony of such a person can by default not be trusted. Duas
Don't understand English Fully But What i Understand was Good And acceptable Alhumdulillah I have a Question Is Following any Sect Necessary ? I am from India
يا أخي شمسي دائما ما تقول العقيدة السلفية والسلفية نفسها لا تقول انها عقيدة بل هي منهج ومنهج سلفي في الدراسة واستخراج الاحكام من السنة والمأثور عن الصحابة والسلف الصالح ... أما العقيدة فهي العقيدة الاسلامية .." هُوَ اجْتَبَاكُمْ وَمَا جَعَلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ مِنْ حَرَجٍ ۚ مِّلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ ۚ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ مِن قَبْلُ وَفِي هَٰذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاءَ عَلَى النَّاسِ" ... وما سمانا الله لا سلفيين ولا وهابيين ولا مدخليين ولا اشعريين ولا جهمية ولا صوفية ... لذا حتى الانتماء لطوائف مسماة بغير ما سمي المسلمين لا أراه صوابا والله أعلم ... لكن المنهج الصحيح الذي كان منذ نزول الرسول هو المنهج السلفي
You are right. He Allah is without beginning and without end. He does not need time and space. It is the attribute of the creation to be subjugated to time and place. The Creator Allah is free from that. He does not resemble the creation.
@Ryan Muhammad Quran is the Kalam of Allah, uncreated. Those who say it is created are known as Lafziyyah, For more detailed account on this matter refer to the Inquisition at the time of Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal.
@Ryan Muhammad The Salaf spoked vehemently against the Lafziyyah. Imam Bukhari has written a book against them, read his book Khulaq al afaal lil Ibad for more detail.
What are they talking about? What is salafiyin? What is the issue of the argument, I would like to know why Shamsi and Mohamed hijab differ? Please tell me
@@DUSDawah Ameen. Im muslim brothers Allhamdulilah, just recently im going deep down my religion and know more who are salafiyin, 3a9ida , shari3ah , madahib. My surname is actually El wahabi or ouahabi does that mean im somehow related to Muhammed ibn adb lwahab awla hi kan7lem a khawa
@@tayloryoung4974 I would say to that, that I learned that you must speak to people on their level and ways they can understand and if that means philosophy, if it means the bible, if it means speaking to them in regards to math or science... Also it reinforces it for the non believers...I get why it is used I get why it is not allowed
I don't understand this to be honest. In the end Allah SWT judges us on our intentions no? If his intention to make people believe in Allah and his messengers and uses their language to make it easy for them, why is this bad? Is he creating deception in Islam? Is he lying about anything? He's falsifying what? Please help me understand.
Asalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, In short, if you are aware of the Islamic history, there were groups, that came in the early history, who were affected by the Greek philosophy. So these Muslims who were affected by the Greek philosophy tried to use this language to debate with the philosophers and atheists of that time. But in doing so , they brought about unintended consequences which were then used to dismantle and weaken the foundations of Islam from within and these very same ppl ended up denying or misinterpreting fundamental beliefs and foundations to remain consistent with the proof they were using to debate with these philosophers. In short, they opened gates of heresy and corruption from within by using a false method of Dawah , and ended up causing more corruption. The methodology of Dawah is Tawqeefi meaning Allāh sent the Prophets with the revelation teaching them how to invite the people of all forms. The proofs of revelation are such that they appeal to everyone, whose fitrah and intellect has not been corrupted, plus it has no loopholes. If there's a pot of honey mixed with a drop of poison would you take IT? You'll appreciate it More if your foundations about eeman and its understanding are clear. Read Umar Quinn's book Ideological assault And Abu Iyaad's articles.
Yes Allah judges intentions, but Allah also judges actions may Allah bless you. As Ibn Masood may Allah be pleased with him said ‘how many people intended good and never reached it’. This was in response to people who were innovating in the religion and their response was ‘we only intended good’. May Allah bless you, what is key to understand is good intention alone isnt enough. Rather we have to follow the sunnah because in that is the best actions which Allah will reward. And the one who opposes that, Allah will punish
May Allāh bless your Dawah brothers. Let the ignorant, opinion man (Muhammad needs Hijab) and the clown and comedian (Ali needs Dawah) die in their rage!
The 2 commenting above me realy need to learn the correct Aqeedah. Noone defends Ali & Muhammad except an ignoramus or a deviant like them. Those two have gone to extremes in opposing the Prophetic Creed & Manhaj, therefore they deserve censure. There who resemble them in the past who received far harsher treatment for their deviation by their contemporary Imams and followers of the Sunnah. Go and a read a book of the Salaf!
So in the estimation of the Salaf, the fundamentals of religious beliefs were only instinctive logical conclusions substantiated by authentic revealed texts: these constitute the foundation of what is positively orthodox Islam. On the other hand, the later generations who opposed this way split into two directions: one related to understanding and the other related to love and desire, as explained above in the statement of Ibn Taymiyyah. The first was the hyper-rational approach of the philosophers and speculative theologians, and the second was the approach of the gnostic mystics who sought enlightenment by employing rigorous self-discipline and deprivation. Quinn, Umar. Islamophobia and the Ideological Assault From the Past to the Present Volume 1: How Foreign Beliefs Caused the Decline of Muslim Civilization (pp. 179-180). ThaqafaPress. Kindle Edition.
The Imāms of the Salaf detested speculative theology mainly because it is trivial and does not motivate one to do righteous action - it does not inspire the action and activity of the heart nor the actions of the limbs - as opposed to simple logical beliefs rooted in revelation, which have an immediate connection to loving compliance, upright moral character, and righteous deeds. In contrast to this aforementioned trend of hyper-rationalism, the approach of the Ṣufīs was fundamentally emotive, mostly based on ecstatic passions and ‘gnostic’ intuition as its foundation; thus it disconnected the vital link between revealed beliefs and loving compliance in the reverse order of speculative theology. Umar Quinn. Islamophobia and the Ideological Assault From the Past to the Present Volume 1: How Foreign Beliefs Caused the Decline of Muslim Civilization (pp. 178-179). ThaqafaPress. Kindle Edition.
