I met my 7th grade primary school teacher when I was 12, but the only time she fucked me was how she ratted me out to my parents for forging their signature of recognition on a detention slip Meeting someone at a certain age means nothing
After reading the other comments about Jojo’s own messed up story, it’s sadly not surprising that she would think this is normal if she grew up around people like that.
Just because someone is nice to you, doesn't mean they aren't abusive to someone else. That's usually how abusive people continue to cause harm for so long... because enough people have seen them "being nice" that it is "unbelievable" that they are harmful.
Yeah some people they just can't fathom that someone they look up to and are "so nice" could do something. Anybody can do ANYTHING because you don't know what you don't know about someone.
Especially because this is how almost every narcissist behaves. They're nice to everyone but their victims, and then nobody believes the victims. Being a narcissist's victim as an adult can fuck you up, and as a child it's infinitely worse.
@@The_LIC Jojo been touching herself and drinking stinky-juice on stage. Also, there's allegations that she's been treating young dancers under her instruction in very not-okay ways. Basically, she's continuing the cycle of kids getting mistreated in the entertainment industry.
To give her a small benefit of the doubt, Jojo was used and groomed by like every adult in her life from a very young age until the present. Her idea of what’s appropriate and normal is definitely going to be fucked up because of that. Saying “we were friends when I was 12” is so close to understanding the point, but she just misses it. However, at some point she’s going to need to re-examine her upbringing and the adults involved in her life in order to see how they affected the way she currently views what is healthy and normal.
Jojo siwa has nothing to do with that drama that's going on with Colleen ballinger. So there is no need to drag Jojo siwa into it. If she wants to be a loyal friend to Colleen, then she can all she pleases
I can never fully agree with statements like this simply bcuz when u hear something all your life or you've experienced it its all your going to know I understand the idea that we all have to grow up and make our own decisions but some of us were just screwed over from the start and it's hard to overcome it I speak from experience ppl would tell me I was a waste of space and worthless and beat me and shit so I started believing they were right and I deserved the beatings and the neglect and whatnot I obviously know it's not true now but it's not always about what u know it's about how u feel and I'm still struggling with it
This is exactly how Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher defended Danny Masterson. Just because someone is nice to you, that doesn't mean they can't be abusive to someone else.
Jojo Siwa was a kid on Dance Moms, so it stands to reason she'd grow up with very skewed ideas of what constitutes appropriate behavior towards children.
Dance moms was such a stupid show. I feel bad for jojo siwa because her entire life was just fame and its probably her parents more her mom to blame like she couldnt just live a normal life.
I'm not much older than her, and I remember girls in my class were obsessed with the show. I never understood because all I saw in ads for it was the host lady yelling at pre teen girls. No wonder some of them are a little messed up
imagine a teen defending her old gym teacher for pedo accusations by saying he was a very kind person actively supporting her modeling career since she was 12, even helping out by taking bikini photos, giving relaxing massages when she was stressed etc...
Someone needs to tell this girl, "Look, you're young. You don't want to believe it. But when these allegations come to light, and you're defending her, fans will NOT be kind to your platform."
It doesn't help that Jojo coming out of the closet already got some parents upset. Defending a terrible creator who allegedly groomed her young fans is just adding fuel to the fire. 🚩 Red flags all around.
When Jojo was 12, Colleen was almost 30. How the actual fuck is being "besties" with a 12 year old while you're almost THIRTY, good and okay in ANYWAY whatsoever?!
Wouldn't say always an adult being a friend with a kid is a problem because p*dos are NOT FRIENDS or don't even plan to start a "friendship" from the first place. But in their situation it's a big proof againest her because she's already exposed as a p*do
To be fair to her, what Shane Dawson and James Charles did is basically her typical experience with most adults in her life This is not defending anybody, I'm just saying child influencers are almost always fucked up somewhere
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 The fact that James still has a platform and audience is still wild to me. Because hes 100% still doing that stuff just got better at hiding it.
All Shane Dawson did was do a few weird skits and make a few out of pocket of jokes back when RU-vid was first a thing that ended up not aging very well which he even went on to APOLOGIZE for that he took accountability for ; now JAMES CHARLES on the other hand he has so much evidence against him and unlike Shane he hasn’t taken a lick of accountability at all
She is an amazingly perfect example of non sexual grooming. She manipulated Jojo to come to her defense when Colleen needed it most. Like if course she’s not going to be mean to Jojo with her audience. She’s far more useful for her business. I don’t think she ment to only have Jojo as a pawn. But this is what happens when you have friendships with kids, they have undying loyalty.
Very true! This happened to me, only took me until the age of 21 to realise from 11/12. For JoJo she’s been surrounded by corrupt Adults at a very young age so she’s even more desensitised to all of this.
To put it simply, Jojo is pulling the "Well she was nice to me, so I can't imagine her doing anything bad to anyone else" card. I get it's hard when someone is accusing your friend of heinous shit, but I think Jojo needs to take a BIG step back and take a look at her friendship with Colleen.
Also not a defense against grooming allegations since groomers WOULD be nice and friendly to the 12 year old they're grooming. If she was already an adult when she met and formed the relationship, it might be different, but she's automatically got a corrupted opinion when she met an ADULT and befriended an ADULT as a 12 year old child.
@@ryanthompson3737exactly. This is Jojo’s _normal._ she’s had hundreds of adults since she was only 4-5 treating her as an adult & friend. She’s still too young and hasn’t grown enough or matured enough to realize the huge maturity differences even from 16-18. She just quit dressing & acting like a child 2 years ago lol. So her maturity mixed with what she’s lived with literally her entire life is going to make it very hard for her to see this as wrong. Plus she’d have to look at every adult she grew up with and still talks to, which would make this an extremely hard process for her. One no one should expect her to be able to do in the month or so since this Colleen shit happened. So people should just correct her with empathy and realize she’s a victim with a victim mentality and thinking.
She most likely did and she’s a child herself. While even saying Colleen has been her friend for AWHILE. Meaning she most likely has been groomed prior and or even now considering the whole situation with her and her “friend” fans in the past.
Am I the only one who thinks that Jojo probably permanently damaged her vocal cords from always screaming? She sounds like a 60 year old retired WWE wrestler
She really opened with, “This adult woman who was accused of grooming minors and sending p*rn to them has been a good friend of mine since I was twelve,” as if that’s a solid defense for a sexual predator.
Theres such a gross misunderstanding that people have with word cancel. Being held accountable for your inappropriate behavior isnt “being canceled”, its just the consequences of your actions 💀
Criminal allegations are not cancel culture. Cancel Culture is like what happened to that "citi bike Karen" where even worst case accusation she didn't commit a crime, and people called her work to get her fired for a petty thing or difference of opinion or perceived unsubstantiated istaphobia.
literally 😭😭 people think we’re trying to “cancel” everybody like no…? why is it so hard for people to hold themselves accountable and admit they fucked up. like i genuinely would have respect for a lot more people if only they took responsibilities for their actions
fr like they "cancelled" Aunt Jemima syrup and the Washington redskins - but a groomer being called out as a groomer is not getting "cancelled"; they just want to feel like professional victims instead of being accountable or even sorry for their actions
I think the idea of “cancelling” should play out like this; after the initial accusations of whatever it is (racism, grooming, etc), we wait for the response and how they handle it. If it’s handled appropriately, then maybe we give them a chance. But if they handle it poorly or repeat the offense, THEN the support should stop
@charbladex I wouldn't even call that canceling because there is an ACTUAL attached negative history. It's like naming a team the Epstein Islanders... at the end of the day it's just a name, but there's a negative history that spits right in the face of the victims, especially as they make billions in revenue while the victims still struggle. For example, the redskins are bad, but the Clevland Indians have a more complicated history because they hired the first native American. Of course the issue is whether it was meant to honor or mock that player... if it was to honor, it would not have been changed.
exploited and manipulated, it's really sad to see and I hope she gets the help she needs before her whole life is wasted because of the people who have been using her for money and fame for most of her life
She continues to be friends with James Charles, who confessed to trying to get minors to send him questionable photos, Shane Dawson, who also has a very bad issue with sexual jokes and minors in the past--etc etc. She is absolutely a victim. But, she also really needs a support group that isn't rooted in using her for their personal gain.
Ok, she’s a victim of what? Being friends with creeper RU-vidrs? Let’s not just start saying dumb shit, like she’s a victim of SA or anything like that with literally no evidence or her saying that at all.
@@cbrreezzyy69 the fact she remains friends with them after hard evidence is brought forward, the fact that she is so fucked in the head from being around known and proven pedos for a chunk of her life is obvious, shes a victim of her own fame, back when she first appeared, i saw reddit comments about how they wanted to pull her ponytail while riding her, this was back when jojo was still a kid, pedos love attention seekers like her, and as a result she has grown up to assume its normal
@@johnnylego807 sure, you can say it’s concerning, but saying “she is absolutely a victim” is the dumbest shit ever. What clear pattern with her specifically? This is what’s wrong with social media these days, everyone needs to be a victim at all times. We’re their victims from those RU-vidrs? Yes? Was this girl one? No. It was fans that didn’t have a platform of millions of people to tell. It couldn’t be more obvious that she has had a WAY DIFFERENT experience than the people who were actually victimized, hence why they are actual victims and she isn’t.
Jojo has been groomed and exploited by adults her entire life, she's been desensitized to situations like this to the point she thinks that it is normal for adults to engage in such close personal relationships with random children. I feel really sad for her because she can't recognize that she is defending the exact sort of behavior that she is a victim of.
If she were to not defend her there would be a point in her mind where she would come to terms with the inappropriate relationships she grew up with and she’s probably not ready for that
If she came to terms with what Colleen is, then every time she makes a video, she will be reminded that she was inspired by a predator, not exactly a good thing to think about...
Maybe, maybe not. Your logic is based on really good intuition but it could also be false. Just cus she groomed a bunch of kids, doesn’t necessarily mean she groomed every single kid she met or Jojo. Imo, I bet she chose her targets carefully because she was too famous not to. Then again, you are probably right, she probably did a few grooming tactics on Jojo but never actually engaged in anything sexual so that makes Jojo think nothing happened. Then again maybe something did. Who knows, maybe even child predators have a certain type they go for and she just didn’t like Jojo. Gross to think about, I just think weirdos are really unpredictable asf sometimes.
the whole "they were nice to me" thing reminded me of going to my friends house and her parents being total sweethearts to me. like took us out for dinner and let us watch a movie in the living room, just totally sweet and wholesome parents. at some point I said just about the same thing to her.. She told me about all of the things they did to her and all the times she had to wear jackets during the summer to keep her family out of trouble. How she had to beg her parents to give her her door back so she could have a friend over. I was fucking horrified. It's the same exact thing. People like Colleen know exactly how to put up a front that is so convincing it allows them to go for years or even the rest of their lives with some people.
I totally get this. Some people are so used to the behavior being put on them that they don't recognize it's bad. Then later on, when it's finally brought to their attention that they're being mistreated and likely have always been mistreated, theres a wall they need to break down to really have it click. Sometimes it breaks, sometimes it doesn't, but when it finally gives and reality hits, it hits like a motherfucker. I went through the same thing when I learned my dad was a...bad person towards children and women. Took three years until that wall broke down.
reminds me of my boyfriends mom a lot. when i first met her i thought she was so sweet and gentle but only a couple months into the relationship while i'm at his house i can hear her slapping him in the other room thinking i don't hear it, or telling him he's worthless and disgusting over the phone not knowing she's on speaker. as soon as she knows i'm coming around or walks into the same room as me or my family her attitude does a complete 180. it is so heartbreaking.
like denial? that's what I was thinking... it's sad to see but I hope she'll learn and heal through the years. She really has a lot of potential but she's been done wrong her whole life. I'm scared that she may fall into the same pattern...
@@-spacedout--spacebound-7438 yeah, I mean it could also be repressed. I had repressed some of my trauma that happened as a kid and was hit all at once with it and that could possibly be it.
Nobody cares. Jojo siwa has nothing to do with that irrelevant drama that's going on with Colleen ballinger. So there is no need to drag Jojo siwa into it. If she wants to be a loyal friend to Colleen, then she can all she pleases. Period
@@MsCarringtonsRU-vid Drag her? She literally thrusted herself front and center in the crossfire to protect an alleged pedo on the basis of "I didn't have bad experiences, therefore nobody did." Nobody told her to do it. She did it herself. Now she made her bed and can sleep in it.
The whole “MY experience was great therefore everyone’s else’s is invalid” mentality is crazy. Don’t blame her cause shes a victim of this adult behavior her whole life so shes just used to it. Its her “normal”. But the thought of it is just icky. Imagine getting groomed or worse, showing evidence and someone being like “well they bought me dinner so🤷♀️”
@@thefalloutlordNot as an adult, they’re talking about when she was a child friends with Colleen, also just because of her upbringing and experience with adults in general (when she was a child)
has anyone considered that jojo intentionally phrased it the way she did because 1: this is her childhood inspiration to start her youtube channel, which led to her present day success. this is a tough situation for her. 2: her saying it’s lies is because that’s what she’s been always told. she’s still processing this information and is very likely one of the people who were groomed. 3: she’s grieving the loss of a close friend. jojo is now 20, so they’ve been in contact for 8 years. currently she is in the stage of denial, which is healthy. 4: she has constant pressure from the media during a very stressful time of her life. 5: listening to her talk about how they met, she sounded like she might even blame herself. obviously jojo isn’t at fault in any way here, but she might have survivors guilt on top of all of this. regardless, she is in serious need of a good therapist.
Ik I'm very late to the game, but with information about Jojo being a terrible girlfriend on top of this, there is no excuse for defending a groomer online when your fanbase is full of young girls.
@@percyioukhnikov81 I’ve gotta be straight with you man, if you want to be mad at someone be mad at Jojo’s publicists She’s still basically a kid- 20 years old is a baby Phrases like “there’s no excuse” are the calling card of abusive online hate mobs and I don’t think you want to be contributing to that
@@dysmissme7343not to mention her life has always been full of adults taking advantage of her. She doesn’t realize that being “friends” with random adults is as wrong as it is because it’s all she’s ever known. Don’t get me started on dance moms.
The classic “No, she wasn’t weird. I was just special.”. She’s not a kid or teenager anymore. She’s a young adult. For her to not see the problem with an adult being “friends” with a 12 year old is alarming. I hope the cycle doesn’t repeat here.
I mean... a defense about a predator from a person who's parents let them pose half naked on the internet at a young age isn't really much of a defense at all.
@@handzrush8093 what does her age today have to do with how she was groomed when she was 12, that messes you up in a way that doesn't go away the day you turn 18 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i'm willing to bet it's because she has probably been a victim of some type of grooming before and has not come to terms with it. makes me very sad. she was a child star it's incredibly likely.
I feel bad for this kid. She's been a perpetual public figure since early childhood. I don't think she'd know exploitative or predatory behavior if it slapped her in the face, with a dildo, while surrounded by creepy adults throwing dollar bills.
@@Big_Dip1 then you don't understand where the sympathy came from to begin with... If she knew that woman as a kid she was likely groomed herself...and it's quite possible that she simply does not know any better. Many who are abused become so blind they don't see it when it's in front of them.
lol, change the age of consent, then. the idea that those under 25 can consent, yet, also cannot is childish as hell. either she's a kid as you said, OR is an adult. one cannot exist and non-exist, simultaneously.
When I was 28 I made a friend on League of Legends. It turned out he was 15. I still stayed friends with him, but never asked for facebook or photos or didn't pry into anything personal. I was there just playing games and be a mentor to his school and problems that he needed help with. Now he is an adult and we're like brothers. Even if you don't have any bad intentions I still suggest to act in a way that won't seem questionable with a minor.
Same i’m 21 but have a 15 year old boy me and my husband always play with. We met him when he was 9 and we were 15. He just enjoyed playing with us cus he didn’t have any friends online and we thought he was a funny kid. Nothing weird, when his parents wouldn’t buy him ps plus or the newest cod sometimes we gift him those things, we now follow eachother on instagram and send eachother funny reels but nothin else. Nothing wrong with it as long as ur not being weird. i just see him as a little brother
Honestly, 15 is a lot different than 12. Also, you had a legit reason to be in communication with him. It seemed like Jojo was just a 12 year old fan she decided to befriend and treat specially. Pretty creepy.
yes but this is different, my dude, because YOU NEVER KNEW HIS AGE AND YOUR WHOLE RELATIONSHIP AND VIBES WERE BASED OFF SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN HIS AGE, SEXUALITY OR "I LIKE THIS PERSON" i am also 28 (lol) and i have a discord group with like 8 dudes.. they're literally all children.. they are from 15 to 18 (one of them is 18) sometimes i feel weird, but first off we've obviously never talked sexually (i have a girl, she lives with me, would be weird to say the least), and the whole point of us being friends is because we started playing together and nobody knew or cared about each other's ages and we just stayed friends because we vibed and enjoyed playing this shit is weird because coleen is a fucking psychopath that GOES AFTER KIDS, IN REAL LIFE, no less. she KNOWS they're kids, they KNOW she's an adult, and it's a whole thing.... if they had met online and did stuff other than "vibe" together it'd be less disturbing, like if they just met online, and just started idk, playing songs together. that'd be super innocent since she'd only realize she's a minor AFTER the fact rant over, but this bitch is deranged
When someone is guilty of something, the best way to run defense for them is to create a narrative that victimizes the person in question: "She's a celebrity" "her fans are obsessive" "she has a 'special' relationship with her fans" Blah blah blah - none of which explains why an adult was sexualizing children. This lady is an enabler.
I think she’s trying her best to defend her because her brain isn’t letting her accept the possibility that the person she sees as a good friend is in reality a bad person. I don’t blame her for it, psychology is a weird and honestly fascinating thing, and she just doesn’t want to betray her friend.
it is very sad but at the same time she is a celebrity with a MASSIVE audience and anything she says has an incredibly strong impact on a large amount of people. of course i feel bad for her but at the same time there's a level of accountability she has to take for saying this publicly. it's a difficult situation.
i mean if that’s all you know of them it can be hard to just suddenly turn on them for something that seems out of character. however colleen was naturally sketchy anyways, i think jojo just didn’t wanna say anything about it so she just said some pr mumbo jumbo
I love this of Howe because it seems like she wants to defend a friend out of emotion, but Howe wasn't trying to tear her down like most people do in disagreements. He was trying to get her to see the logical dilemma she's in.
People who are groomed don’t realize they’re being groomed. You see it here in the totally detached statement of “I knew her since I was 12…”. That degree of manipulation is why cults of personality are so effective.
Some of the sweetest ppl are monsters behind closed doors, I think that’s why a lot of ppl, but I’ll speak for myself, get a weird feeling from overly nice ppl. It almost feels like they watched wat a nice person acts like and imitates it
@crownedking_cj8890 or they have anxiety and aren't sure how to express themselves. There are people who are nice to try to manipulate you or there are people who are nice cause they want to be. And then there are a few people are genuinely nice. It's tricky to tell who is who I guess.
I think Jojo was groomed by Colleen at a young age and didn't realize that until Colleen was exposed. You can tell how uncomfortable Jojo is as she's just taking it all in. This is actually sad.
yeah like she way she's speaking about it is EERILY similar to the way i behaved when people would ask me about my abuser when i was still in the denial phase. the psychology of the human brain is very complicated
honestly howie did a great job at tip toeing around with the matter and handling it nicely since he knew one wrong word and jojo siwa would deny the whole shit that went down .
Fr. Dude was working this situation with a scalpel and I think he came really close to getting through to jojo and making her see how things really are
I mean, it's technically still cancelling, but there's a major difference between cancelling somebody because they told a sexist joke as a kid, and cancelling somebody because they're a fucking pedo.
Yup. Not like Colleen said a racial slurs 10 years ago in a private chat with an adult friend she legit sexually groomed and molested children that's fucking death worthy to me
Jojos been exploited by adults almost her whole life, it’s sad. She’s totally desensitized to it. I hope she doesn’t get too much hate, if you think about it she’s a victim herself even if she doesn’t claim it. Her defense of Colleen should be disregarded since she has been conditioned to think that having adult friends as a minor is normal. That having the adults in your life using you for gains is normal. Truly sad.
The women biased is crazy😂 you wouldn't say it if it was a man in her situation so stop defending her just because she's a woman which you clearly do here. She knows what she's doing. You are tr*sh
“she can’t be a groomer I’ve been friends with her since I was 12” is like saying “my friend couldn’t have murdered that man he was at the supermarket buying a kitchen knife that day”
I think the early harassment of JoJo directly contributed to where she is now, not only was she surrounded by groomers to the point she thinks it's normal, but so many people were mocking her for the harmless things she did like wearing colorful clothing and being loud that in the end it likely further alienated her from healthy adults and chased her further into the waiting arms of said groomers, they see situations like these as opportunities and lurk around for a chance to pounce
It's almost fascinating to watch her defend Colleen. You can clearly tell that Jojo was groomed her entire life and doesn't realize or understand that fact. She's a victim herself who was born and bred in an environment that constantly preps her to be someone else. It's been normalized because that's all she's ever experienced/seen from the adults within her circle. I think she needs therapy, or at least an awakening, because at the rate she's going, she will eventually turn out to be another Colleen and continue the cycle.
It might not even necessarily been that she was groomed like Colleen’s other victims. I think brainwashed might be a better way to put it, she might not have had anything done to her specifically but clearly something went wrong since she thinks most of this is normal.
Hmm to me it was more like she knew she was lying about it so she was trying to find a way to justify that she liked her and that she no doubt made money from her. It's the classic case of denial while side stepping the truth. There's no legal repercussions but she is trying to be slightly careful in a way because she knows it can effect her own fans perception of her.
She's attempting damage control essentially. She's speaking out saying the proven accusations are not true because HER experience with Colleen was different and if she was a child predator why wouldn't she target her? Well the answer to that is like Charlie said her popularity was dangerous so she didn't target Jojo for sexual discussions. Jojo knows if she called the victims liars she could get into alot of trouble legally so she's trying to say it without directly stating it is an absolute falsehood. This why she can claim it was denial of the truth rather than her meaning any harm.
@sashathebee she did but she didn't. She said that the internet takes lies and runs with them, but she never outright says that the people who came out against her were lying. And when asked what she thought of the accusations she locked up because she couldn't say they were lies without putting herself in some serious legal problems.
Yea, just another celebrity trying to mitigate and dispel any sort of controversy surrounding them and the people around them. Genuinely disgusting stuff, especially considering she is a literal child star, and appeals to children.
Jojo herself has been a huge widely outspoken supporter of anything sexualizing kids, she uses her platform to push her personal LGBT onto as many impressionable elementary school kids as possible. It's disgusting how focused she is on pushing kids sex organs and sexual attraction.
Yeah, pretty much sounds like she thinks a lot of this stuff is normal and appropriate....if I knew her and saw this interview I would not be bringing my kids around her anymore
She's just in denial because she thought she knew her better than most. I had a good impression of my dads friend as a child. He got me into pc gaming as a child in the 90s. He seemed like a real nice guy. About 10 years ago, I read in the paper that he was arrested for having child pornography. So many disgusting people out there are good at wearing pleasant masks.
@@johnnylego807because she was likely a victim with a defense mentality. “A didn’t do this because B was treated nicely by A compared to C, D, and E.” type shit
What I find interesting about this is in the past she’s stated that Abby Lee Miller wasn’t abusive and only wanted the best for the dance moms cast, and they’re still close today as far as I know. Obviously someone in her situation would have grown up being taken advantage of by adults, but she’s been groomed so successfully and is inadvertently open about it online.
My family and I have never been fans of JoJo Siwa when she became popular, but when we learned that she defended someone who is essentially a creep, it made us lose concern for her.
You know when Trisha is the most mature and sensitive person in a situation, everyone else is doing something wrong. (I can't take credit for this joke- Boze vs World) She wasn't Trisha, she was Patricia.
@@VincisomethingNo, Coleen was making fun of her behind her back and she didn't know until Trisha got leaks about Coleen inviting her for dinner with her friends just so when she left they could make fun of her between them. She also leaked nudes from her OF to her fans which we all know are children.
Life advice- if you're not prepared to answer a question, for whatever reason, just be honest and say you aren't prepared. This interview would have been 10x less embarrassing if she just said, "Well, she's a long time friend of mine and I hope that the accusations are overblown. I haven't really thought about it any more than that."
This is true. I often do this where someone will ask me something, and I'll scramble to make something up rather than simply saying "I don't know" or "Let me think about it". Makes me look a bit stupid.
one of the main things multiple people accused Colleen of is befriending them when they were still kids and then letting them do her dirty work (defending her, deleting comments, cyberbully people who came foreward, etc) on the internet whenever she was criticized.. isn't that exactly whats happening here?
It’s always important to remember that just because someone you “know very well” did nothing wrong to you doesn’t mean that person hasn’t done something wrong to someone else. When in a situation like Jojo found herself in during this conversation, I get you don’t want to say something to support allegations against someone you love. That’s why you say something along the lines of “I can’t imagine that _______ would do something like that, but since I can’t speak for the actions of others and I myself am not a victim or a witness, I’m going to refrain from hypothetical scenarios and implications.”
This isn't at all shocking, she grew up on tv around lunatics for adults. She's the type of person who would say their childhood wasn't that bad. I can't imagine her not having trauma from all those years on Dance moms.
@aaronbuss8361I can’t believe that show ran for as long as it did , like those parents can burn for WILLINGLY putting each of them in that position at such an early age. Even in the show it’s so obvious the mothers are living out their dreams through them. Disgusting and i genuinely hope each of the girls are doing well cause that show looked like hell for a 10 year old
This just makes me more sad than anything. She’s been groomed by colleen since she was 12 and i don’t think she’s going to realize how wrong any of this is until she gets much older and gets away from the public eye. And for people saying that she’s 20 and should know better, the effects of grooming can affect you for much longer than that.
I know I didn't start to realize it until I'd gotten away from the person for a while and got a little older myself. When she gets to be about Colleens' age and realizes she would never do the things that were done to her... that's when it'll click. If she doesn't sit in denial out of self-preservation now that she's publicly defended her.
@@hopelessromantic3786I agree with that, when I grew up to adult age I realised how creepy a certain adult was at me since I was a kid. That person sent me sh o ta hentai when I was 12 or 13 and I didnt realise it was fucked up till I was like 16. At 18 on college I started to realise a few other sus stuff just because I cant imagine myself literally dating a highschooler when I was literally in college.
Right? I dont get why people defend others in such situations, you cant even be sure about allegations made about family members with 100% certainty let alone someone you barely know in real life
People that often browses the internet had already (somewhat) learned this from situations like Slazo, Pyrocynical and Kwite. People who don't browse these however still have no idea on how to be sympathetic without being encouraging or supportive. It's something you barely have to do nowadays since it's just a "With us of with them," mentality that's especially prominent in politics affecting those who are first time going into it. Aka Teens/Young adults transitioning to young adults/full adults respectively.
Just last year Jojo toured a college (csuf) and annoyed so many students It was FINALS week and she was out there doing YMCA in the library -- Lots of people were pissed Awareness isn't one of her strengths
I don’t think she knows at all what is normal. Her mom pushed her and her bows into the spotlight and she basically behaved like a 4 year old until recently. Whether she has matured or had any real world experience since then is questionable.
@@surfsup4019 I'm a uncle to a late elementary/middle school girl and the amount of teenagers who are getting pushed by their parents (mom's especially) on TikTok for exposure is so sickening. Jojo Siwa was in the beginning of that trend and it's shocking how many people are like Colleen Ballinger and then when the kids grow up, they still don't acknowledge that they got groomed. It's a fucked up world.
@@surfsup4019Tbh I doubt that, Jojo got criticized on Twitter because she was posting Snapchat stories saying she was pregnant when the valid truth was that she ate too many donuts or something and gained some weight. Some people were saying she’s making a joke out of pregnancy when some people struggle with conceiving, and some were saying that she just shouldn’t say she’s pregnant cause it’s weird considering how young she still is. Jojo went out and bought a shit load of baby clothes during this and after reviewing her haul, idk what she did with all of those baby clothes, probably donated them, but people were still mad about her STILL running with the pregnancy thing.
I feel bad for jojo... it's very obvious that this is a mix of her being in denial, her history of being exploited by the adults around her her whole life, and maybe (and this is a crack theory) she might have been threatened by someone to say good things and support colleen.
Super late to this, but at the 12:23 mark, you can see Siwa's soul leave her body right after she said, "the subject of grooming is a very sensitive thing," as is she accidentally slipped that she just backed everyone who was hurt by Colleen up by saying that.
@@draketurtle4169 grapes are healthy for our body. But when you provide grape to others, it is no longer a good thing. Grapes shall never be shared with others. It's immoral.
The sad thing is that SHE was groomed too, she’s one of the victims and has no idea. I hope that when she realizes it, she can move on and not have this unfortunate defense ruin her
“I feel bad for somebody because they have a personal/tribalist relationship with an abuser and refuse to acknowledge it...” Like WHAT?!?!? Lmfao...just stop. You’re excusing her, is no better than her excusing Colleen...you’re aiding the defense of assault. Hold this girl accountable.
@@Wallychans No you don't want to hold jojo accountable, you want to cancel her, if you actually wanted to to hold this person accountable, you would want them to get help because her being friends with colleen since she was 12, she has obviously been brainwashed and groomed.
@@leehall2633 Laughable. You’re delusional. I never even heard of this girl in my life until this video. I could care less about “cancelling” her as she seems very insignificant as is...if anything, I’d say keep posting her stuff as much as possible cuz she only makes herself look bad... Legit. I’m saying right now. Signal boost this girl as much as possible. Repost, retweet, etc. make her voice heard!!! That’s exactly what I want, cuz 99% of regular people will see this for what it is. So, Wtf are you even talking about...? Apparently asking folks to confront sexual assault makes me some fascist trying to silence people? You realize you’re passively defending her right now? You lefties can’t handle the whole “cancel culture” idea very well. You don’t seem to understand it, at all. I never mentioned silencing or removing this woman, all I said was confront her and call her out... But hey, Come at me bro, I’ll die on this hill...I’ll debate defenders of pay doughs all day, and something tells me you’re easy pickings...Charlie’s audience aren’t exactly well versed in politics and justice outside of TMZ and internet drama. Edit : Nice to see Charlie’s community supports the sexual assault of minors...I knew he toys and jokes with degeneracy himself, but I had no idea this was the company he keeps. Sad...
As a former prosecutor, this is what grooming looks like. It doesn’t have to be sexual in nature, and Colleen has clearly groomed Jojo. Also, it doesn’t excuse Jojo’s statements, but it does show how powerful grooming can be. You can see the internal struggle when Jojo is speaking, like she’s starting to realize that there is no rational way to defend Colleen … but, then, she still reverts to her original position that Colleen is being unjustly persecuted. There’s also a sense of her worshipping Colleen.
Jojo Siwa is hanging on to a sinking ship… don’t think this will work out well for both parties involved. And these are VERY heavy accusations. I am very concerned for the children that were involved in these controversies, and I hope they don’t suffer from TOO much trauma. I hope this situation ends and stays buried with the last video that Siwa made. That’s my take.
This girl was definitely groomed as a 12 year old and she can’t accept that a so called friendship with a youtuber she admires since she was a kid, was possibly not what she thought it was.
jojo was 12 when they became “friends”. she’s 20 now but she has obviously been groomed for most of her life. i honestly feel bad for her, she’s lived her whole life online and has been manipulated by these people to a point where she lacks the self awareness to even recognize why this interview was god awful. i hope she can take a step back some day and realize how fucked up her childhood has been. would hate to see her end up like every other former child star.
i would love to see her do bad. Even with her past she is knowingly defending a predator. And like with al predators she deserves no more then the worst from hell
So when Jojo was 12, Colleen was 28. Aintnoway. I'm 31 years old and my brain turns off even thinking about having to talk to someone under like 25 😂 let alone be friends. Nah man, that's beyond weird.
You can almost hear Colleen whispering in Jojo's ear... "...cancel culture... being a comedian is hard... people are too sensitive... it was all lies... you've known me for years and I've always been nice to you(r face)..."
I'm going to ignore her defense because she was a child and the things Colleen did probably went right over her head (especially when Jojo was already used to pretty terrible adults surrounding her 'cause y'know...dance moms...) Now that I think about it, it's a little sad to see...left one terrible woman (Abby) just to unintentionally approach another.
She was groomed herself when she was a child. She is a victim. Victims defending predators is not uncommon. I hope she can heal and become aware of her patterns. This makes me very sad
It's hard to defend an adult with trauma who is against actual victims standing up for themselves. I get that she's just extremely delusional and it's a sensitive topic for her, but would you rather hurt an adult with the truth or let p*dophiles off the hook? I think it's counter productive to shield a victim while letting multiple new ones be made and defending predators. It's not like she fed her cat vodka and got cancelled to the ground, this is an actual top tier (good luck picking up the soap) worst crime possible
Yeah but she’s an adult now and she actively defends multiple predators. the fact she doesn’t see a problem with it is HIGHLY concerning. Especially since she herself has a very young audience. She needs to be on a watch list if anything
When I was 11 I became friends with a 4 yr old because I had no other friends, but once I turned 18 (they were 11) I stopped talking to them because I knew that I'd be considered creepy if I continued talking to them. I'm now 22 and they're 15, they've tried to reach out to me but I don't want to until reach out until they're 18.
JoJo Siwa is a perfect example of one of the most harmful aspects of child grooming- the *normalization of it* Now that JoJo has been exploited by adults her whole life, she has absolutely no grasp on reality or healthy interactions. Now SHE is an adult who is very much capabale of *becoming* a person like Colleen or Shane Dawson. Its all part of the cycle. Groom children who grow into adults who eventually groom children....so I won't be shocked in the slightest if JoJo Siwa just turns out to be another James Charles situation.
Jo Jo has been groomed herself to the point that she doesn't even know it. She's been a child star since she was very young and doesn't realize just how much she's been taken advantage of her whole life. Its going to hit her like a truck when she actually thinks about it. I mean she was mad a punching bag on Dance Moms so the adults around her could make entertainment. She's got some big catching up to do because this was just tone deaf. In a recent video with Shane Dawson she told him how much she respects him almost like she was going out of her way to make that point. It was weird.
10 years from now she will probably come out with a tell all about how she was groomed by RU-vidrs. She will probably react to this video. I’m calling it now.
The thing people don’t get is that Jojo is still pretty much a kid. So I can see how in her mind she kind of doesnt want to think all these things happened and thinks she has to defend the person that inspired her. She just needs to accept that it did happen and realize that it makes her look really bad defending her.
