Jacob Stylus are you a trial lawyer I think not.I went to siu school of law for 5 years and I got my b degree in us history, and if your wondering my class rank I came out to 4th in my class and I got my bar license if your wondering
@@blakemichaelis2214 1. What gives you the indication that he's not a trial lawyer? 2. Noone was "wondering" your class rank and school (irrelevant information) 3. Law school is only 3 years
Let me fill you in. These attorneys have been preparing for months for these kinds of high-stake trials. He's probably have investigated all of the jurors' background. Every "um...ah...what's that word...?" is calculated to garner jury's attention/sympathy. The defense counsel is presenting himself as someone like a juror: a 55+ year old, likely retiree, who doesn't understand college kids. He's asking the juror to put themselves in the shoes of a college kid to understand his action. This is honestly the most well-prepared argument I have ever heard. It's not the attorney's job to look like the smartest guy in the room; his job is to get the jury to his side. I have seen the best attorneys dressing down, looking folksy, etc., to get jurors to empathize with his clients.
No. His argument is concerning culture and how every American breaks the law due to culture, such as the flow of traffic. That's a good argument. The culture of this person's school contributes to the defendant's behavior. Memes like the ones you wrote ('we live in a society') are hollow simplistic mocking misrepresentations of substantive issues and explanations. I know it's easy to be a keyboard attorney and joke, but it's misleading when the joke exists simply to entice a laugh rather than having any semblance of satire that contributes to a larger point. No closing argument can be articulated in one sentence like the one you made. I'm not "triggered" (another overused meme). I'm just explaining the importance of why you are wrong. The lawyer did a fine job. If any American here begrudges this attorney, then write and call your Congressmembers and pressure them to amend the 6th Amendment of our Constitution. But that amendment will never be amended democratically because the right to legal representation is a core component of a strive towards freedom and democracy. Note that I said a "strive towards" democracy. The issue of whether the United States is actually a pure and legitimate democracy is grounds for another discussion. 6th Amendment: read it. The Constitution: read it. It's very short. You can get through the whole thing in 10 minutes. B
Btw, from the culture (context) of this comment section, I can tell that your upvotes stem from a mockery and ignorance of due process, not just from humor. That's why I replied. You're right: "we do live in a society" is a part of the argument, but you've eliminated the context of culture. To the reactionaries: I am "chill". Writing is not a burden to me nor does it indicate anger. Writing is actually 1/3 of my career. Reading and speaking are the other 2/3s.
Dunno why you guys are hating. What else was he supposed to do? There was physical video evidence of his client’s actions. All he can do in that situation is to manipulate their emotions to minimize his client’s sentence.
Yeh thats why the law system is such a complicated mess, especially the Lawyering buisness they get promotions and is able to advance they're carreers the more cases theyve one, this systems not promoting truth and justice its who ever has the best lawyer and the losing lawyer gets a potential downgrade if the more cases he lose, what if the person just keeps getting clients that has large amounts of evidence weighing on against them?
I dont think that's quite right, im not sure about Tennessee but in most jurisdictions the jury ascertains an accused's guilt. If the defendant is found guilty he is remanded in custody and there is a separate hearing for sentencing further down the track where the judge gives out a sentence commensurate with precedent and the facts/seriousness of the crime
This man is just doing his job. He doesn't try to actually DEFEND his client. He KNOWS that his client did it. And he's not trying to give his client a reason for a mistrial.Hes not talking about evidence or the credibility of the victim. Hes talking out of his ass and he knows it😂😂😂
His just there for the money,that's why it's better to represent yourself.Don't believe in the bullshit that you need a degree to be a lawyer.All you need is to study and understand the law,understand the judicial process, learn how to present and argue your case by formulating good defence strategies.Even when the state presents evidence against your actions you can scrutinize every detail and how it was obtain.Question,critique and scrutinize the evidence,the witnesses,even the investigators of the case.
Santo Paraiso it’s tough to do that, and the fact is that most people who think they can just don’t know enough to know they probably shouldn’t - myself included. Try reading about the Dunning-Kruger effect - it’s pretty fascinating.
@@santoparaiso4129 Well its not so easy to first learn how to practice law amd then find all the evidence you need to defend yourself in the time an educated lawyer would use just to build the case.
@Hot Water Everyone deserve and should have a right to a lawyer. Youre conpletely innocent UNTIL found guilty. So he didnt defend a guilty man, he defended an innocent man that probably was found guilty after the trial.
Honestly if you think about the traffic analogy it honestly helped boost his argument. Yeah he went on a tangent of course but looking through the eyes of the lawyer, judge, and the jury. And also getting the idea around the case it honestly helped. You just have to think about it from a “there’s a video of what you did, were doing, and the victim. They know you did it but how can we slant their emotions” point of view.
Okay, I have read too many comments from the arm-chair attorneys here to just not say anything. Let me fill you in. Attorneys like him have been preparing for months for these kinds of high-stake trials. There's videotape of his client committing wrongdoing, so the facts are undeniable that his client did it; he's just trying to mitigate the sentencing. To do that, he probably has investigated all of the jurors' background. Every "um...ah...what's that word...?" is calculated, rehearsed, practiced to garner juror's attention/sympathy. If you have been on jury duty, you know that most jurors are older, likely retirees. The defense counsel is presenting himself as someone like those jurors: a 55+ year old, likely retiree, who doesn't understand college kids. He's asking the juror to put themselves in the shoes of a college kid to understand his action. This is honestly the most well-prepared argument I have ever heard. It's not the attorney's job to look like the smartest guy in the room; his job is to get the jury to his side. I have seen the best attorneys dressing down, looking folksy, wearing mismatched shoes etc., to get jurors to empathize with his clients.
I agree with you, if this was a medical situation, it was like a doctor who tried one last therapy he/she could try to lessen the pain on a patient that is diagnosed with terminal stage cancer.
"I must be saying the right things, because I keep getting objected". - Um no, it's cos you're making bad arguments and sound like you prepared 15 minutes ago.
Can someone please remove the protective clear plastic covering on the back of the judge's monitor? That is supposed to be removed when it is taken out of the box. I'm trying to concentrate on what he is saying. Thank you.
@@906-x3w people like you think youre safe but can you guarantee your children, grandchildren will never make a terrible mistake and end up in there? the point of the justice system isnt to rehabilitate and reintegrate, like it should be, but to punish everyone within it, good or bad, accidental or deliberate wrongdoing. prison breeds criminals right now because what do you think would happen if suddenly, 90% of inmates, who are non-violent, were just put under house-arrest? a total industry collapse. that cant be allowed to happen now, can it? since when is the government been about downsizing? by the way, people a person in a cage is an evil act, no matter what moral gymnastics you do to justify it. and plenty of innocent people have rotted in there for decades.
Yes, rape is around us everyday. That still does not mean it is right, or should be normalized. Man's talkin out his ass 🤷♀️ Did the rapist ever go to jail?
For all of those who think this guy is talking out of his ass, he isn't. The first piece about looking through it from the lens of a 51 year old vs the accused is telling the jury that they need to get into the perspective of the accused, not their own perspective. This is called subjective mens rea. For a guilty conviction the prosecutor needs to prove this mental element beyond a reasonable doubt. But this has to be from the accused's perspective, that he had the intention to commit w.e. he committed - from the sounds of it a sexual assault. The lawyer than ended with the accused drinking excessively. This is pointing to the defense of incapacity, if the accused drank to the point where he couldn't even remember what he did; how can the prosecution be sure he had the intention to commit his crime? The answer is they shouldn't be able to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt. Note, I am a law student not from America but the common law system is similar. Jurisdiction can have different exceptions for sexual assaults with the burden of proofs. The delivery I admit was hilarious, but if you had the back drop of what he is trying to do; it's not that bad.
he’s doing his job chill. Being a lawyer who deals with serious crimes aren’t always supporting justice. Lawyers aren’t about justice. don’t expect them to be.
@@906-x3wso to defend a rape case that your defendant did, caught on camera, what is the best argument for it? I want to know, since you seemed like a capable person
This is embarrassingly cringy, I feel so bad 😂 he was not prepared at all 💀 whoever he is “defending” is over there crying knowing he bout to go to jail😩
The worst part is he actually was kind of on to something 💀 had he presented this case better, the kid probably could have gotten off the hook with a slap on the wrist smh
The last minute would have been a more plausible argument to focus on. Being so drunk that Corey possibly couldn’t have been functional enough to cause intent.
@@georgecarrera18 thing is I belief that the law and facts were stacked against the defendant anyway and the atorney knew that. So he tried every angle which may give the jury some reason to be mercyful. Beeing it the surounding culture, the media glorifying violence or alcohol, anything that makes his client less accountable for his actions helps if you cannot argue law or facts.
@@alberich3099 valid point but could had use possibly the excusal defense then In conjunction with how modern media glorifies sex disrespect of woman and speaking of any possible abuse defendent may sustain or mental health I feel could've done better
When I came into this office for the first time I was amazed by how nice everyone was. They all went out of their way to greet me and make me feel comfortable. I knew at Harris, I always had someone in my cornir fighting for me. I would recommend this firm to anyone because of how professional they were and how easy they made my experience.
If you have video evidence against you and dna evidence I'm sure no 10000 lawyer can save you. So before you talk 💩 think about what you say before you type
As a rising legal guy, I am in full agreement with his argument. Great argument. He has to speak to each soul of everyone there and bring light into each so that they see the amount of darkness that the rapist did. There is no room for adultery. This is punishable by being sent to Hades in the eyes of God. No human being as the right to do such an action. We must pray and bring the victim and offender closer to heaven even if this happened. Lesson to be learned. As a female, do not let anyone into your room who smells like alcohol. A female and another male or a a guy friend who is intoxicated. There are RAs, medical professionals (EMTs), and Campus Police who have been trained to deal with these situations. Do not drink at all period. Stay sober. Stay vigilant. The abuser has to repent or else he’ll have a darrrrkkkkk life ahead. God bless America and God bless our legal system.
Did you know the police don't even have to do an investigation on particular crimes all they need is someone to point their finger at the party they suspect is guilty
Good intentions but unfortunately a poor delivery. It was hard to follow his points when he was almost rambling and stumbling over his words but I’m sure the interruptions must have thrown him off
Help!!! Emergency!!! 1.) Dearest Lawyers, I Wrote my past experiences, writing about illegal transactions, discoveries, Is it possible that Police Authority put me inside the Jail because of Libel case? Thank you for your time.
I don’t know if this is possible but my mom died from a very very bad flesh eating disease and it came out of nowhere eight months before all this came down to see 19 can I sue because I know it was from that they kept it from us
If he addressed a British jury like this I think the judge would probably have picked up a copy of Blackstones and lobbed it in his general direction!......lol.....very tough to watch. Sympathy for the jury who had to endure the whole trial.
He repeats the same words too many times stays stuck on the same subject for way too long. You wana keep things brief and simple but at the same time getting your point across. What you dont wana do is read a book to the jury or tell a bedtime story like this clown is doing I cant believe he is a attorney, who would hire such idiocy I mean really😑😑🙄
Well, what's this fellow is trying to do is essentially just ease the term the accused dude's gonna get for raping a girl. There must be some one to do the defense, because it's a two side system. And yes, the prosecution side must win most of such cases, and they usually do. Cause they're right and they have a bunch more resource to compete in the court. Yet, the defense lawyer goal is to win at least couple years or some softening conditions. Also, I kinda call recall to his message. That's a fucked up system all around. It doesn't mean the case should be passed, but the we shouldn't make a Golem out of the raper, he probably is a just a blue ball dude with fucked up mentality.
The law is uniform across all cultural believes... The best he could do is bargain for leniency, cite an abusive upbringing and remorse on the part of the defendant. Then keep fingers crossed for a reduced sentence. Very bad argument...
I’m a trial lawyer to and I’m this case he is not a very bad lawyer. This is a case where he try’s to draw the jury and the judge to him for a unanimous vote for his client. So he is not a bad lawyer
Blake M i dont know man if you're a lawyer probably I'll never hire you because your english grammar is an absolute mess 😂 lawyer should be good in english at least
Naaah If you don't care about your image as a lawyer through digital, I don't think you'll be serious in defending a case in real life. You don't have the traits of being a good lawyer you are inconsistent and lazy
