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Defining Success: Does the U.S. Need an ‘End State’ for its China Policy? 

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@kaimingraymondchoi9909
@kaimingraymondchoi9909 8 дней назад
I hope our American friends understand that for a nation to be great again it must try to improve itself instead of hammering and containing your competition. That's true greatness.
@Acidfox86
@Acidfox86 7 дней назад
@@kaimingraymondchoi9909 we can do both
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 2 дня назад
@@Acidfox86 there is a thing called reflection 😂😂
@KatyYoder-cq1kc
@KatyYoder-cq1kc День назад
REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist all death threats, chemical, political, spiritual warfare using malicious AI and energy weapons: US Communist/Woke military, Axis ,MAGA
@gregb5683
@gregb5683 7 часов назад
China is going to find out…in fact economically they are already finding out.
@Alex-ig2xr
@Alex-ig2xr 4 дня назад
What is rule based system? If it means the senators and house representatives on Capitol Hill who only receive 20% approval ratings from Americans call the shots for the rest of the world, it is not what people want.
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 2 дня назад
Post wwii , google it!
@pingdeedee
@pingdeedee 12 дней назад
My God, if USA foreign policy was influenced by these guys, that would be horrible.
@Acidfox86
@Acidfox86 7 дней назад
@@pingdeedee their foreign policy is “capitulate to Arabs”
@KatyYoder-cq1kc
@KatyYoder-cq1kc День назад
REPORT WOKE AND WAR CRIMES: Cease and desist all death threats, chemical, political, spiritual warfare using malicious AI and energy weapons: US Communist/Woke military, Axis ,MAGA
@shouningliu00
@shouningliu00 11 дней назад
The reason the US feels the pressure from the China’s challenge is that they do NOT want to learn what “China” is, instead they imagine China is just another USA. 😅😅😅
@Acidfox86
@Acidfox86 7 дней назад
@@shouningliu00 and?? What are you laughing about. People like you would cry the very day America asserts itself
@mingchenhuang532
@mingchenhuang532 4 дня назад
​@@Acidfox86哭泣?像印第安人那样?尽管维护美国的主权,中国只是让美国失去收割他国的实力!
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 2 дня назад
Vice versa 😂
@xiangqiu2788
@xiangqiu2788 7 часов назад
@@Acidfox86asserting with what? Trillions of national debt, or your collapsing national infrastructures, the sad state of your health or educational system. What exactly is America asserting?
@mmojave
@mmojave 12 дней назад
"What's it that we want to achieve?" as this panel try to answer. 43:10 Yun Sun nailed it for this entire discussion. Basically, American only wants sole hegemon. "Rule based order" is I set the rules you follow my orders. It's useless to discuss on how to deal with China. Because Americans has exhausted your trust around the world. No one dares to enter any deal with you anymore. American history says it all : 【Yield or be killed, there is no in-between】- Go ask the Native Americans, Libya (Ghaddafi) & many others, they know the answer well. Everyone will surely take a lesson or two from the Native Americans.
@cornee111120
@cornee111120 12 дней назад
I am not an American and your comment is bullshit. The us has a lot of voluntary alliances with countries that want to work with the us. The main adversaries such as Russia or China can't even cooperate with each other, let alone other states.
@Acidfox86
@Acidfox86 11 дней назад
Then yield. We are not going to change for you, and if you want to be our enemy, then declare it. Most of your countries will do what they’re told unless they are otherwise belligerent actors or already our allys. We build where we want and people still allow us to go where we want. You will not change that, and the fact that you can listen to our policy conversations. You should consider yourself immensely lucky
@keyboardmanyoutube3189
@keyboardmanyoutube3189 9 дней назад
They say “ rule based orders “ but never say “ international orders”
@metokyo4960
@metokyo4960 7 дней назад
Bold statements about US based order. Let’s ask people of Tibet what they think about China made rules of order, or even more recent example, let’s ask people in Hong Kong what they feel and think about Chinese rules of conduct. Oh, wait … no one can ask those questions in peace and harmony loving China 🇨🇳 without risking disappearance! Rules “you follow my orders” is Chinese specialty and masterplan. Wouldn’t you agree?
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 2 дня назад
⁠@@metokyo4960spot on ! that is exactly why the Chinese rhetoric is formed, out of projection. 😂😂😂
@alejandrocastillo4622
@alejandrocastillo4622 13 дней назад
Surely, you can go through these videos and cut out the 2-5 minutes of nothing at the beginning of each one of them. Okay, I guess you're streaming this stuff, but is there really not an idle intern anywhere that can edit the video after it's uploaded?
@morphkogan8627
@morphkogan8627 12 дней назад
Yea whoever manages their videos and this channel is retarded
@chopinmack5418
@chopinmack5418 7 дней назад
It is a strange concept that if a country is not following the " Rule Based International Order " , we have to conduct a " Regime Change " ! Check " Cost of Wars " report from the Brown University on the MESS the US created by this " Regime Change " concept . Should CSIS come up with a " Worldwide Prosperity Based Order " Policy to help the smaller countries ( similar to the China " One Belt One Road " policy ) and MAGA ?
@hugodiazgarcia1266
@hugodiazgarcia1266 9 дней назад
Congratulations to the CSIS for your excellent video about the U.S. focusing on winning a managed competition strategy against China, considering its challenges and implications for the U.S. and Europe.
@jasonong3906
@jasonong3906 13 дней назад
Singapore support China
@TarulWarlord
@TarulWarlord 11 дней назад
Support China how? Economically? Politically? Militarily?
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 2 дня назад
@@TarulWarlordsame mindset 😂😂
@ChalermchaiWattanawongpitu-y4z
@ChalermchaiWattanawongpitu-y4z 13 дней назад
Yes, Long Live " Democracy n Freedom"...😊😊💯👏💯🥇🥇🥇👍👍👍👌✌️✌️
@JP71165
@JP71165 12 дней назад
Who cares how another country in run, just get along & leave each other alone....
@Chris-vy3et
@Chris-vy3et 11 дней назад
Liken it to a neighbor doing something you wouldn't appreciate, like cooking meth or having their front lawn filled with sewage. It's not that it directly affects you, but it definitely indirectly affects you.
@JP71165
@JP71165 11 дней назад
@@Chris-vy3et No, it ain't somebody operating a Rock house or meth lab. In that scenario, both neighbors are doing it anyway..... It's more like two neighbors with a gripe with each other, folks just move on with their lives....
@medicuswashington9870
@medicuswashington9870 8 дней назад
Meritocracy is the future. The United States hegemon is pained to share power. The United Nations is unable to enforce the rules of the rules based international order. The change in the balance of world power has occurred.
@jamesw.3065
@jamesw.3065 8 дней назад
For God's sakes, this is the best we have?
@davidbaker231
@davidbaker231 8 дней назад
Don't fall into the trap of pretending you have any idea what an "end state" might be. The whole concept of an end state seems dubious. We have policies, other nations have policies, they have some effect in the world, and then... things actually don't just end. The world is not the same as it was when you crafted the policy and you evaluate and perhaps adjust. Talking about an "end game" or "end goals" in global policy is fundamentally flawed. Commentators who call for policymakers to define end goals, as though this is a board game with a finish line are creating a distraction from what should be a simple guiding principle: that our policies should seek to advance and/or protect our interests. When our interests and those of our partners and allies conflict with those of a competitor, adversary, or enemy, our policy goals should be that our interests prevail over theirs. Obviously. And without having to define some idea of an "end state" when none exists. This doesn't mean we can't articulate specific near, medium-term, and even longer term goals for policy. For instance, we should continue to take measures preventing China from dumping heavily subsidized manufactured goods on our markets, to name one. Chinese senior officials should clearly understand that an attempted invasion of Taiwan will incur monumentally disastrous costs, to name another. We should in general be seeking ways over time to decrease our dependence on Chinese exports, for a third. We can ask the question, "how does this all end?" But it is pure hubris to pretend we can know the answer. We should strive to prevail in our struggle with China out of simple self-interest. If we do not prevail, it will be much worse for us than if we do. That alone is reason enough to want to win. But if you believe that the liberal democratic, capitalist model for all it's many sub-optimal features and characteristics is still better than being ruled by a CCP-style totalitarian system, then it's better for the world as a whole if China is prevented from taking over. That's all the end game picture we need and trying to be more detailed and specific is a waste of time and energy.
@georgelee6857
@georgelee6857 9 дней назад
Democracy is a coded word these days: In international arena it means a country obeys US. For example North Korea one day changed its policy and start to obey US but nothing else domestically. North Korea is a democracy. In America domestic politics, democracy means Democratic Party win. If a non democrat like republican wins, democracy is damaged or jeopardized
@stephenclemente2122
@stephenclemente2122 12 дней назад
What are your opinions on the Wolf Amendment?
@SLF-o2w
@SLF-o2w 8 дней назад
Frank Wolf?
@ElizabethWang-r9s
@ElizabethWang-r9s 8 дней назад
US order is so unreasonable
@thomasho4825
@thomasho4825 11 дней назад
How could you complain as they give you a threat which you want me to base all over them and surrounding them if you put your shoes on their side, what do you think?
@侃侃谈谈
@侃侃谈谈 11 дней назад
民主很重要 是生命啊
@ElizabethWang-r9s
@ElizabethWang-r9s 8 дней назад
Because US teeat China as enemy, not competion
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 13 дней назад
Main issue is the lack of like-mindedness, therefore definition of “mindedness” is crucial then in-depth communication with the counterpart can be the foundation of solutions in all aspects.
@Acidfox86
@Acidfox86 11 дней назад
The problem is that most of you want us to concede that “mindedness” for you, but you do not reciprocate. Why should it be one way for mindedness but not for policy?? You can have your mindedness if you give us our policy. How about that?
@daqiansun7944
@daqiansun7944 11 дней назад
Come on. You should pray China doesn't have the same mindset of wanting hegemony like US. Otherwise the WW3 may already started.
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 2 дня назад
@@Acidfox86🐓同🦆講,😂😂😂
@ericyeo805
@ericyeo805 13 дней назад
India is neither here nor there as far as goals are concerned. He is talking about the border issues(India China) is not relevant to this talks header as it is an old dispute that was existing before this subject. It’s pure unfairness referencing in world views. Indian speaker should keep out the border issues as the conflict will trigger a proper challenge by the involving parties that has no connections to the topic in discussion.
@TarulWarlord
@TarulWarlord 11 дней назад
Nepali workers working in India are taking away $1.2 billion in remittance money every year. Need to make a video on how india can teach Nepal a lesson by stopping this money.
@lluc9946
@lluc9946 12 дней назад
Most important question!
@amberdm1384
@amberdm1384 9 дней назад
A bunch of fools sit on the stage and talk freely about this fool. they talked grandiloquently for a long time and finally deceived themselves.
@ansa336
@ansa336 7 дней назад
My sentiment exactly: Meanwhile the Middle Class is declining fast in the US. The gravity of world trade has decisively moved to SouthEast Asia.
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 День назад
39:19 Is Sun devil’s advocate or devil itself? 😅
@ElizabethWang-r9s
@ElizabethWang-r9s 8 дней назад
You can not change China
@hsingkao2024
@hsingkao2024 13 дней назад
The best “strategy” is mind each other’s own business.
@morphkogan8627
@morphkogan8627 12 дней назад
Wow truly an profound and intellectual take. Thanks for sharing that
@cornee111120
@cornee111120 12 дней назад
So, we cut china out of the market because we want to mind our own businesses? Chinese practices of product dumping limits development in all other countries. So, in fact, countries are minding their business which in turn hurts Chinese interests. Your take is unironically the very thing that is the cause of Chinese instability.
@ElizabethWang-r9s
@ElizabethWang-r9s 8 дней назад
You ask wrong people, you need to have two sides of people, otherwise you are being so subjective you are own point of you
@Reed-sh6wi
@Reed-sh6wi 13 дней назад
"Why won't China just follow the rules we set out for it? We worked so hard on those rules"
@hsingkao2024
@hsingkao2024 13 дней назад
What rules? Capitalism, racism, and colonialism?
@morphkogan8627
@morphkogan8627 12 дней назад
​@@hsingkao2024Are you suggesting China isn't colonialist, capitalist, or racist?
@mmojave
@mmojave 12 дней назад
And you(Americans) keep changing the rules so that they favors you only. So who would want to follow them?
@cornee111120
@cornee111120 12 дней назад
You mean the globalised trade that worked well for china so long as they participated in openness and equal competition? It's not only the west that wants to limit Chinese exports, it's all developing countries too, because the product dumping practices are killing their development potential too. China was glad to use the established system, like russia until it actually threatened the autocratic leader.
@danwelterweight4137
@danwelterweight4137 12 дней назад
China is a socialist country with a humongous portion of its economy and key industries still under state control. Even the private sector is still under state control. In China the government controls the billionaires and the Corporations. In the United States the billionaires and corporations control and order the government around. How many overseas colonies does China have in 5000 years of recorded history? Look at all the overseas territories the US has aquired in its mere 250 years of history. Look at the 900 military bases around the world. Look at the master vassal relationships the US has with other countries in Europe, Middle East and North East Asia. China is not colonial. China got invaded and colonized by the Manchus and Mongols who founded the Yuan and the Qing Dynastied. Chinese people were third class citizens in both of these Dynasties. Later by Western powers like the US, UK, France invaded and took land enclaves of China. Then even the Japanese invaded and colonized parts of China.
@testphone8379
@testphone8379 11 дней назад
All these guys are irrelevant, they really don’t have anything to offer.
@thewindypine1976
@thewindypine1976 2 дня назад
Did CIA write this script? God damn😂😂😂, so so
@Avigkit
@Avigkit 13 дней назад
Is John mearsheimer ever involved in your work? If not, why not?
@morphkogan8627
@morphkogan8627 12 дней назад
Because he is severely cognitively impaired, and has nothing useful to offer the academic and policy world of geopolitics.
@cornee111120
@cornee111120 12 дней назад
The guy is a quack. You shouldn't take him seriously.
@post-industrialpeasant3190
@post-industrialpeasant3190 12 дней назад
Because Mearsheimer does not have an ideologically driven worldview like most Liberal Think Tanks in Washington.
@RolandWong-v7e
@RolandWong-v7e 11 дней назад
He would sound like an echo chamber in this group.
@Captain.hammer.
@Captain.hammer. 12 дней назад
@ 3:01
@Rob42Rob
@Rob42Rob 13 дней назад
"The rules-based international order" 🤓
@morphkogan8627
@morphkogan8627 12 дней назад
What is your contention with that?
@anwiycti1585
@anwiycti1585 12 дней назад
@@morphkogan8627perhaps prefer to be in jungles? 😂😂😂
@lluc9946
@lluc9946 12 дней назад
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