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Defying the Crisis - The Spanish Collective Mondragón | Made in Germany 

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@0Xcity
@0Xcity 12 лет назад
Having worked in three corporate owned businesses and currently working for the Federal Government, this idea seems wonderful. Having seen how labor is dealt with on either end of the spectrum comes off alienating, including Democracy and having a common stake in the place, moral must be high in such a situation! From the few examples I've seen, the workers seem extremely enthusiastic about their plight in life!
@marsCubed
@marsCubed 11 лет назад
Also note that the managers are appointed by the workers and have to have been long time Mondragon coop members.. they are regular workers trained up by Mondragon colleges etc. ie, not 1% psychos buying up to make money.. Mondragon learned not to do that early on..
@jackchorn
@jackchorn 10 лет назад
no, no, no. The proper way to run a business is to have a few at the top and to pay the workers as little as possible and pinch everything to maximize profit at the expense of the product and the employee. If profits continue to drop then simply file bankruptcy and move your wealth you created from exploiting into another company and do the same there. This is how capitalism runs the best. You must keep a large portion of the society hungry and under employed to ensure cheap labor. This has the added bonus of being able to pay yourself thousands of times higher salary then the employee and keeps the employees dependent and unstable in their future so they will not question authority. This is how capitalism works. God bless
@arminius6506
@arminius6506 4 года назад
You surely doesn't know anything about private property and market economy 😉
@twostepz4982
@twostepz4982 4 года назад
Yes, if that's what you want to go with the capitalism and short-term. This one is called ownership economy by separating itself from a poisonous capitalism/socialism oppressive system. That's why a lot of fiat banks and corrupt dictator governments are so bad. Which is why ownership economy does away with all that.
@mltiago
@mltiago 4 года назад
@@twostepz4982 but that corporation is was Marx advocated for.
@alrizo1115
@alrizo1115 4 года назад
@@twostepz4982 This is a form of Socialism.
@ambermurray2496
@ambermurray2496 4 года назад
@@twostepz4982 this literally what socialism want worker owner ship of the means of production
@alrizo1115
@alrizo1115 4 года назад
The Next Economic System.
@hannahnymous
@hannahnymous 3 года назад
Agree!
@moroccanguy1957
@moroccanguy1957 2 года назад
I wish
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 2 месяца назад
The Mondragón collective are one of the best setups for individuals that are owners of their own faith, totally democratic, not at all the top down tyranny of regular companies where the CEO has all to say (sure, share holders push for more and more money). The people will win time and time again because it's their own company. Bravo!
@MelvinNeifert
@MelvinNeifert 10 лет назад
Wth??? I didn't even know that this place even existed! We should do that here! Oh... That's right. Anarchists tried to do that feom within the industries. The bosses had other ideas, and sent the pigs aftet the workers to make them go back to work. A lot of innocent people died.
@buddy1187able
@buddy1187able 11 лет назад
No, the workers control who the managers are, it's a bottom-up system. A 5 minute video doesn't explain the details of the system.....
@freydenker6335
@freydenker6335 7 лет назад
Where can I get a list of Mondragon coop- products? Please put up such a list ....for all who want to support this way of production!
@dwnews
@dwnews 7 лет назад
I'm afraid we can't help you out with a list, but you can contact Mondragon. They also have a website in English: www.mondragon-corporation.com/eng/ /gu
@TheTobs50
@TheTobs50 7 лет назад
drop the g at the end of .com/eng/, or go to the Spanish website and then click on English in the top right box
@MiguelBricaBrac
@MiguelBricaBrac 5 лет назад
Orbea cycles is one company of theirs.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 2 года назад
Ocean Spray is a huge co-operative
@Irishandtired
@Irishandtired 8 лет назад
Classical economics at work.
@fireskorpion396
@fireskorpion396 3 года назад
This is amazing 👍!!!
@Moneyaddthenmultiply
@Moneyaddthenmultiply 7 лет назад
We need more of them for accountability
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 2 месяца назад
Years ago a very smart man awakened me about this system, since then I'm enamored with the system and wish it were the prevalent system throughout the planet. The man I heard it from is Noam Chomsky.
@tedcrilly46
@tedcrilly46 10 лет назад
First impressions - prettay good.
@ryanpeterson7614
@ryanpeterson7614 12 лет назад
The Caja loans it to them. It is usually paid off in 3yrs last time I read up on it.
@Seantorky3
@Seantorky3 12 лет назад
where do the workers get the money to buy into the scheme?
@alrizo1115
@alrizo1115 4 года назад
No idea. Maybe if worker don't have the money to invest, he can pay installments? I think this is a more secure way to grow your money.
@bt3743
@bt3743 3 года назад
They have a couple options, they can pool together money from enough people to begin or take a loan from the government, not to mention a small amount of money can be taken out of each workers paycheque to be reinvested back into the buisness
@Zen-rw2fz
@Zen-rw2fz 4 года назад
Can you get fired for sharing communist ideas?
@vuducanh2k5
@vuducanh2k5 3 года назад
Nope, We're Distributist and Mutualist (Third Way) We are Capitalism (Free market Competition, Comsumerism) + Socialism (Workers owning the means of production )
@enhancedutility266
@enhancedutility266 Год назад
This is within the framework of communism to a certain extent
@Hythloday71
@Hythloday71 12 лет назад
The Myth of Mondragon: Cooperatives, Politics, and Working-Class Life in a Basque Town (1996), by Sharryn Kasmir, State University of New York Press.
@brandinshaeffer8970
@brandinshaeffer8970 5 лет назад
JUDICIAL REVIEW FOR JULIAN ASSANGE lol this book is from the 90's. You have to reach 25 years back to find a critique? Hahahaaa. Well, Mondragon weathered the 2008 crash better than anyone else in Spain - a country where capitalism hit the hardest - and they are still thriving. Visit their university sometime where they will teach anyone who wants to learn about this system of economics.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 2 года назад
Brandin is right
@alisiamondragon3013
@alisiamondragon3013 2 года назад
I just came here because “Mondragon” is my last name.
@vivalaleta
@vivalaleta 9 месяцев назад
I hope you learned something anyway.
@moroccanguy1957
@moroccanguy1957 2 года назад
Why after 10 years there are only 55 comments ?
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 2 года назад
RU-vid shadowbanning?
@enhancedutility266
@enhancedutility266 Год назад
Because co-ops are probably not very popular
@vivalaleta
@vivalaleta 9 месяцев назад
with wealthy capitalists. I finished your sentence. ​@@enhancedutility266
@ryanpeterson7614
@ryanpeterson7614 12 лет назад
And did you actually read the book?
@zes7215
@zes7215 6 лет назад
no such thing as ownx or not or luckyx about it, doesn't matter
@RamdomView
@RamdomView 3 года назад
My untrained eyes see that some tasks can be automated.
@harshitmadan6449
@harshitmadan6449 5 лет назад
How is it different from stock options?
@brandinshaeffer8970
@brandinshaeffer8970 5 лет назад
Harshit Madan my mom was partially paid in stock at Southwest Airlines. Every quarter they must show growth, so eventually that means screwing workers. She was at the top of the hourly wage so they fired everyone in that bracket & rehired newbies at a lower wage. Having a little stock as an employee in a capitalist company doesn't give you a say in Dicky-mcGeezacks. In a worker co-op the workers hire management- & if that manager isn't performing to their expectations then they are demoted or moved somewhere else in the company. There are no power drunk single overlords whose boots u need to lick or else lose your job. Decisions are made collectively. The highest paid person can make no more than 8 times what the lowest paid worker makes. In capitalism the highest earner often makes 350 times more.
@davidmutua4158
@davidmutua4158 2 года назад
Last time I checked, major stockholders of e.g S&P500 companies are not employees of those companies. In Mondragon, Employees are major stockholders. Difference is MAJOR owner, not just part owner It's different in this way; Overall, the %ge of profits going to pay labor wages has decreased. Mondragon is not part of that story.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 2 года назад
Good answers. Selling stock options, even to workers are the opposite of Mondragon.
@codybonus230
@codybonus230 3 года назад
So Everyone Makes $250,000 a year Asking for Freemarket America. Whats the tax rate? Thanks I could make that on my own as a poor chap by reading a few books here in America. Whats the benifits?
@Rose_Harmonic
@Rose_Harmonic 3 года назад
Employees having control of the company and profits as opposed to a c-suite, board, and shareholders. Instead of that $250k number, think of everyone earning something like at least $70k and outcompeting a company whose workers make $50k.
@GaryHField
@GaryHField 2 года назад
You have a similar company in America called Gravity Payments owned by CEO Dan Price. It's a worker's paradise. Everyone makes $70,000.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 2 года назад
@@GaryHField But not run & owned by staff
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 2 года назад
Why do you want to work agaist your own economic interests? Or are you greedy & powerful? Instead of 1 owner person making heaps of money, and many making very low wages, this spreads it. Very motivating for Staff
@vivalaleta
@vivalaleta 9 месяцев назад
​@@pebblepod30Well said.
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