I agree with the consistency of Dekus Scale as he does hit around the Multi continental, to Planetary ranges of power, Depending on how you scale it. But the Asta Downplay is kinda crazy (Not saying it was intentional) but the lowest you can get current Asta to is large planetary with characters like Demon Lict who can completely obliterate the world with a single attack producing multi continental to more consistent planetary plus scaling, the salamander that can vaporize entire oceans with one finger that scales to multi continental, on top of base starter arc Asta being FTL without trying; reacting to Goche light rays and Patrys light magic consistently which that same magic is stated to be capable of getting faster depending on ones strength. With him gain higher and Higher into the MFTL speed. and that's not even touching the consistent Uni+ Infinite Speed scaling that I can elaborate on more if you with me to. Even Lucius is currently in the process of reforming Two whole realms in the manga of which people like Yuno, and Asta already scale to. This fight is a bit farther of a gap honestly, but Great job on getting the Accurate Deku scale, he deserves it.
@@wuuhnnn"That Nine feat was insanely false". Are you stupid? It was given the green light by Horikoshi himself. Wtf are you on about with it being false?
You literally just started talking out your ass to down play newsflash navel laser is ftl and lady nagants bullets were scaled to be ftl not lower than it
@@onesmart229 No, it does not. It literally moves MFTL speeds. Deku literally has massively faster than like the action speeds. It was blamingly able to catch lasers and lightning and with danger since his reaction is better and he was still getting hit by the bullet which would mean that there easily MFTL, And it's literally stated three times that his laser is light
Literally talked about it in the video . Also that was a multi-cont feat with Zetten and i find it ironic that Asta couldn’t do better without Zetten as Zetten itself is an amp . I’m skeptical over Asta being moon level fr
This isn’t close in the slightest. Asta takes almost every category by a large margin including battle iq. The only category he doesn’t take are normal iq and possibly experience. There is nothing Deku can due to hurt Asta even if we keep Asta at base. And you said were highballing . Asta highballed is easily multiversal thanks to Dorothy’s dream magic: Glamour World being infinite.
asta trained for 10 years physically for months with fanzell to be a swordsman and 3 years has past since then asta has like double the experience deku does in combat deku only gets normal iq cause asta never went to school
4:18 A statement that doesnt apply to the world physically its Planetary but when Shigaraki was stated to destroy the whole world then use 2 english translation + 1 japan translation it reffers to is as the world physically or universe 💀Shigaraki is Planetary no doubt, Deku should scale above him with gearshift so planetary+ and with the current chapter 410 base form shigaraki is far stronger due to AFO dying and not only that bro spedblitzhed Deku who used gearshift + fajin + danger sense and tanked his attack without feeling shit + stole the quirk all that in his base form and one quirk then use the multiplier above large planetary
@@Just_Raijin_ not denying asta is stronger but deku is faster with better speed feats asta is fast but not as fast as deku. Asta is stronger with more power better endurance and durability. Great battle IQ with hax but can’t effect deku. Deku is faster and smarter. with better battle iQ/strategy with abilities. Asta wins mid diff. Or no diff depending on the fight.
@@1Angel2001Bro, Deku isn't that fast. Asta and Yami when they fought Dante were moving fast enough to be operating on their own timescale, like Flas-time or Bullet-time in a sense. Deku hasn't reached that speed. Not even close.
@@gamingbeast3388 bro asta tankes planatery attacks in base now he can cut an ingi it demaion called galour world the RU-vidr you created this dosent even know that feat and said we're is it so like 6 of us have him the chapter the fact that he did not know one of his highest abiltys pre time skip is crazy
Ayo, what do you think about the argument that pixel scaling is not a reliable source of scaling and invalid to use? 'Cuz most 'ya calcs are pixel scales fr
I give you Deku’s speed is higher than in death battle but Asta scales to Above Universal due to the fact he beat Lucifero who one shotted Nozel who beat Megicula who beat Dorothy who can create an entire freaking universe with her magic
@@BusinessStanderBoyI mean no offense but I recalculated the feat that put Asta at above universal myself and the math checks out based on the official powerscaling numbers that we’re supposed to use Asta is above universal. He wouldn’t be if Megicula didn’t destroy Dorothy’s dream world universe but she(he? I don’t know they never actually say in the manga) did so you have to take that into account when scaling these things
I don’t even think deku can defeat witch arc black asta who scales higher than salamander that can dry the ocean with just a swing of it’s talon so forget about current asta.
They are both not a there full power ast barely finished training and deku is almost at his ultimate power and they have not shown that much of their power
@@batosaims fucking show the feats then, asta is able to dodge light, he is able to keep up with a guy who can manipulate time, he is able to go toe to toe with someone who can manipulate gravity. you glazers are too much man, how ironic that the fanbase of paedophiles shipping eri with allmight or whatever is telling me to touch grass lmao, brother I'm touched more grass then you've probably seen 😂😂😂😂
Wait, so in your most recent Deku video after his recent manga feats you got Deku to 1.5 Yottatons of energy and declared Deku as planetary, which is far stronger than Asta who you declared as moon level with only 190 Exatons. So in conclusion Deku would one shot Asta! It makes me happy, because there’s nothing worse than a Asta meat rider.
Yeah sure he can one shot a before 15 month and 6 month time skip base asta. But he gets negged by current asta, he just downplayed him into the ground.
@@goofy25xnot even close bro, current Asta still doesn’t scale passed moon level. Asta doesn’t have a planetary feat nor does anyone in the BC verse. Deku has an actual planetary feat now after he killed afo and shigaraki. Deku still one taps.
@AbsalonWhiteJr. oh naw ur ahh tripping🤣🤣🤣. Dantes singularity has the mass of a star so post 6 month time skip asta is already planetary with mftl+ speeds. And with multipliers and such he easily gets to solar. So even if you give deku planetary a.p. asta still negs in base form.
@@goofy25x bro you’re utterly wrong 🤣. D.bunk already did an Asta scale video and the highest he was able to get Asta was moon level with all of his multipliers 🤣🤣🤣. Asta isn’t even planetary and there’s no proof to back up the claim that he is planetary.
Death battle sucks,the fight shouldn't have been that close...even tho they got the right character to win it's not supposed to be as close as they showed
@@SenseiThat base asta one-shotted paladin damnatio who easily planetary taking in account villains from after the spade saga (they all scale above 100% lucifero)
@@wuuhnnnIf Lucifero planetary statement is valid . Then every Shigaraki planetary statements are too and by extension the post spade arc opps scaling is meaningless
@@Leo-ik9sn it basically doesnt mean really anything horekoshi just showed how all the characters were praying for the hereos to win but it was just edgeshot saving bakugo and deku using gearshift on him
Deku is arguably 100s of times stronger meaning asta would have a very hard time beating especially when that's not his full power and can go 200% possibly
@@sgdpushaa3232 yeah exactly, i mean deku is simply an hard counter because he is faster and cant be blocked by asta in any way, on top of that he is far more skilled
@@darkidthedemonDeku with one punch has made an hole to shigaraki destroying his inside organs, that shigaraki can easyli tank multiple nukes with ease
@@darkidthedemon when you look at em and ignore the statements almost all of them because deku had already been dealing with shockwaves throughout the entire series up until now his body has been destroyed by his own shockwaves strengthen his body further ppl don't get how op that is because when you go through that typa damage and still keep going nothing will be able to stop you
Deku has higher ap and durability too, and Deku being faster can just slow down asta and demolish him meanwhile asta can't do anything because deku controls his cells
Let's go with the mereolna feat base asta would be around 15x ftl during the time skip magna managed to surpass pts asta also gaining a increase due to gaining a temporary form in ln witch is Canon to the story BTW since it's just the off screen parts of the manga. It is stated that magna gained 25x power increase putting him at 375000x ftl. In the spade saga Magna reached a point where he had half of Dantes power putting dante at atleast 750000x ftl than light asta would surpass dante with devil union as when he beat fused Lilith who was twice as strong as Dante meaning that at just the beginning of spade Sage asta would be at the bare minimum 1.5 million x ftl. Also if you didn't know the more magic you have the faster you are Compare that to the bull shit calculations in the video deku wouldn't even see asta coming, and it's crazy how even gets faster than this but there's no need for me to explain all that
Lmao higher AP where? Asta literally cleared the entire sky in an instant over LoS (Japan) while simultaneously slicng the 5 headed dragon. Asta splitting the sky is calc'd higher than anything from mha like dead ass, that at minimum 17.5 petatons as a low ball, and he scales massively higher than said feat. Asta clears Deku in AP.
@@BusinessStanderBoyA manga special was released "Volume 23.5" specifically for the movie. The elf arc ends at vol 23 while the spade arc began on vol 24
@@D.bunk_ no hate but asta is kinda planetary and thanks to the salamader could dry a ocean with its claws which delcare to be true in the guide book so drying a ocean would make it country or continetal of ap but he now become star level with the multipliers the highball that asta is in don't hate me but kinda universal because of dorothy glamour world which kinda delcare infinte in size and everything she dreams become reality in that world and when she was fighting her elf counterpart she create two moons and yami has a attack which cut throught it but when he use it on dante he tank it but use a move which is full physical force which damage dante and asta copy and use yami sword he was able to beat dante their are some example of universal feat like the twins devil are able to both burn and freeze conepts or nacht create a small void or even the demon world has multiple world in each level
@@cronus555 salamander feat means nothing cuz we don’t know how big the ocean they are referring to is. I have never seen Glamor world being referred to as infinite and there isn’t anything suggesting the moons are the size of actual moons. And burning/freezing the concepts of time and space doesn’t scale anywhere cuz those aren’t platonic concepts. I don’t exactly know what void you are referring to but if it doesn’t have a confirmed size then it doesn’t scale anywhere.
@@D.bunk_The fire Salamander and 2 statements in Volume 16.5 of BC. "The sigh of the firedrake heats 1,000 ri, one swing from it talons dries the Ocean" Salamanders Heat Smallest Ocean= 11.46 petatons(Multicontinental+) Salamanders Heat Average Ocean= 178.14 petatons(Multicontinental+) Salamanders Heat Largest Ocean= 450.35 petatons(Multicontinental+) Salamanders sigh Heat 1,000 ri= 20.11 Exatons(Multicontinental+ or 68% to moon lvl) 1 ri = 3.93 kilometers or 2.44 miles.
@@D.bunk_(Elf Arc) Dorothy/Reave: G.W Creation: Sally stated "First what she's generating are actual objects she visualizes, and their composition the same too! That means real world principles work on them!" meaning she would also scale to what she creates. She also stated she can create Infinite attacks when she battling the blackbulls. G.W Size: Luck stated that Glamour World seems endless. Dorothy/Reave replied that " the impossible is possible here in Glamour world." Thus affirming that the dimension is endless or infinite in size. Feats: Reave/Dorothy has spawn reals moons in G.W. and Sally herself said real world principles applie in Glamour World and Dorothy was also able to destroy G.W while fighting with Reave and would later re-created it many of times after. Dorothy does scale above the fire Salamander since its feats scales up to 68% moon lvl. Dorothy would scale to Moon lvl lowballed to uni+.
Wasnt the light spear thing in the elf arc as light speed and also gauche's mirror magic uses light to attack and asta was dodging this in the elf arc which is at the beginning of the series
@@doriankamanzi6874 true but like bruh the times we in no one cares enough about deku Im just glad they're people who still see him as amazing......though I can agree with you on some of the feats here and there but majority aren't always wrong
@@doriankamanzi6874 yeah your right there I'm just not as serious here cause Asta is one of my favourite MCs right next to deku but I guess the scaling must have a few tricks to it to make it make sense
@@thatguykev8695 what it true in tge manga delcare it to be anti energy so any anime verse with has spiritual energy or supernatrual power and don't go fanboy i am not saying she solo or no diff but could negate their power like dragonball ki chakra had magic from other worlds aura basically any energy base power can be negate by anti magic
That's not it at all. We have no confirmation it works in ki based stuff, even with Zetten. We only know it can act on soul-based power sources (mana) that can create fantastical stuff in reality (magic). One good contender to be affected by Anti-Magic is JJK's Cursed Energy, because it meets the criteria
This video is complete miscalculation naval laser has never been states to be at the speed of light but even if deku was 4000x faster astas speed is billions of times faster than light dont go using a early feat to calcute the entire show because you can use other chrs who are weaker than asta to get a way more acurate speed calculation than the abysmal 1000 For anyone to say I'm cap dante is calc to be around 200000x ftl asta in his devil union was able to beat Lilith fused who is 2x stronger than dante meaning that asta beginning of the spade saga would be around 400000x ftl. I could dive into curent asta but there's no point even with bull shit speed Calc for deku asta would literally speed blitz him to oblivion
Asta isn't even 1% the speed of light lol top tiers in Black Clover get hit by lightning, and no Deku isn't faster than light either but faster than Asta, BUT Asta has better precognition which is why speed won't matter anyway. Asta still wins but you're wanking hard
@mechlord1075 you do realize lighting in black clover is different from the lighting in our world since it's MAGICLY ENHANCED. Also, there are multiple FTL statements even at the beginning of black clover it's not wanking if the Character outright state it in the manga
@@tipontip7028 Nope, the Wizard King who at the time was the strongest character in the series couldn't dodge light magic and had to use time magic to see into the future to avoid light magic, thus he's slower than light speed, sorry you may not like it, but its true
I'm sorry I didn't know I was talking to mentality mentality-challenged individual So because he used his power to dodge light he's not faster than light. Keep in mind he was even at 100% because he didn't want to kill William. Let's not forget about Yami or anybody else who have dodged and reacted to light.
@mechlord1075 and let's also not forget mid battle he said he wouldn't even have to anticipate his attacks anymore while still holding back he would have beaten him if he didn't have to protect the kingdom
@@D.bunk_ I mean there are a lot of metas, like the fact that Dante is able to drastically bend light with sheer gravity that's a star to multi solar feat
@@MrCraftyScales could you show me a source for that? Cuz I’m pretty sure even the earths gravity is able to bend light And the relation between gravity feats and AP is heavily debated on. I mean even 13 from mha can bend light so I’m not sure how valid it is for scaling
@@D.bunk_ with her she's using a hax that no one scales to That is a type of a black hole in a sense but it's just sucking up light, Something is massive as the Sun only Bends light less than 1% of an archman while just a base Dante was able to bend light 60 to 300° of an archman, If you have a discord I can show you
Navel Lazer doesn't have enough evidence to be concrete Light Speed and it would make the MHA speed scaling incredible inconsistent as Navel Lazer is more comparable to Bullet Fire and MHA characters still struggles with Lightning speed attacks. Deku is FTL+
False. Invicible girl stated many times she can only bend and manipulate true light/photons. Navel Laser is light. Also, 13 literally states she can absorb and trap all including light when Navel attacked her. This denial and nerf is disingenuous and pathetic.
@squallthegriever 😂 Sorry, that's still not enough evidence to say Aoyama Lazer is SOL. Remember its fiction light based attack can move slower light on less proven others wise. Aoyama quirk is being amped by his high-tech belt and the frame of the belt which is presumably glass would slow down Aoyama Lazer to barely MHS. Last thing, if it was SOL its still would make the entire MHA speed scaling inconsistent.
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The reason this is close is because astas anti magic realistically is what lets him beat most of the characters he faces because they have large portions of magic deku has no magic whatsoever abd if we go off speed deku gearshift quirk is conunter to speed in general not mention he can use gearshift to warp reality
No asta would speed blitz the absolute shit out of Deku comparing someone who's just reached light speed compared to someone whose been light speed for almost the entire series only growing faster
Isn’t asta the physically strongest dude in his verse, and asta hardly does anything more than swing his sword wich was shown narratively to be the same if not stronger without anti magic poor take
@@AaronThemOut you clearly didn't watch bc if you think ASTA with just his physical strength alone is what Let him beat all the enemies he's faced your take is the poor one. 💀
@@tipontip7028 deku with gearshift is counter to speed learn how to read buddy , gearshift allows you to control the speed of anything by because without inertia anything van reach ifnite speed deku can take your speed or give you more speed which means ASTA ftl feats become pretty useless if deku were to use gearshift on him , shigaraki who got gearshift used on and has ftl reaction speed couldn't even react to deku because with gearshift he was moving at incomprehensible speed if you weren't a wanker you'd realize the reason for ASTAs win wouldn't be his speed or physical strength because if were being honest the don't compare to dekus in base don't forget that gearshift and devil union have the same time limit at the moment either
@@Mass_Amountz 3 months late is meaningless . This is the exact time it took for the 369 chapter to release and that’s still downplaying Deku since Asta didn’t even progress . This video is still not outdated
@@tipontip7028 I’ve watched his content and not only does he use anime stuff to scale the manga but he also uses just really dumb logic. For example the glamor world. He says Dorthy creates actual moons and stars just because she creates the real world equivalent of objects. That doesn’t mean she creates them with their real world size. This is made very clear since she can make tea pots and other things that are much bigger than they actually are. And he also uses one statement from Luck saying the world is endless to mean the world is infinite in size. Even tho it’s made very clear he is saying that because he can’t see an end. Which doesn’t mean it’s infinite in size.
@@D.bunk_ but if she can make teapots that are bigger than actual teapot I could use that logic to say that she can make planets and stars bigger than they actually are it doesn't disprove the glamour world. And while he does say that if you pay attention he never uses that to fully scale black clover he always says if you want to really high ball asta than you can say he's universal but he's always put asta around planetary+
@@tipontip7028 That doesnt back up glamor world. All it proves is that there is no set size for anything she makes. and seeing as there are no feats above multi continental, Asta would cap at large planetary using statements that arent actually planetary.
Deku can slow down asta there fore deceeasing hes attack power since force = mass x acceleration due to gravity if asta isnt moving he isn't outputing any force and also deku isnt even using 50% of hes power thats the funny part
@gamingbeast3388 OK easy Let's go with the mereolna feat base asta would be around 15x ftl during the time skip magna managed to surpass pts asta also gaining a increase due to gaining a temporary form in ln witch is Canon to the story BTW since it's just the off screen parts of the manga. It is stated that magna gained 25x power increase putting him at 375000x ftl. In the spade saga Magna reached a point where he had half of Dantes power putting dante at atleast 750000x ftl than light asta would surpass dante with devil union as when he beat fused Lilith who was twice as strong as Dante meaning that at just the beginning of spade Sage asta would be at the bare minimum 1.5 million x ftl. Also if you didn't know the more magic you have the faster you are Compare that to the bull shit calculations in the video deku wouldn't even see asta coming, and it's crazy how even gets faster than this but there's no need for me to explain all that
💀😂😭 Im not reading all that buh ik u talking about speed blud I'm gonna say this again speed doesn't matter. Deku blitz speed he literally has speed quirks he has the quirk to shift the speed of anything he touches ignoring inertia Inertia is what stopes an object from moving. If deku ignores inertia this means he can keep on moving as fast as he wants with no limits. No inertia = infinite speed
Goku hasn't blown up a planet but we know he's around Universal Just because they control their powers and destroy everything doesn't mean they are not planetary if weaker chrs are around or are planetary lucifero who is stronger would also be planetary
Here's the reality of the situation, Deku is factually faster than Asta....HOWEVER...Asta has better pre-cognition with Ki vs Deku who can't control danger sense....so even with greater speed he can't outspeed Asta because of pre-cog....Asta will still win
Bro,what are you saying😂😭,you are right about Deku being faster, but saying that Deku loses because he cannot control danger sense and Asta has better perception is wrong.Even with a good perception,if you cannot keep up with what you perceived,then it's useless.Examples are Zank the executioner from Akame ga kill who had better perception because of his future sight ability but still lost to Akame because he couldn't keep up with her speed.Deku can decide to become massively slower or faster than Asta at any point with gearshift😊. Also, danger sense cannot be controlled,it automatically activates to tell you that danger is approaching,and so deku just suffered from it because it seemed to give him a headache whenever it got activated in the begining,if you have watched season 6 you would know that problem doesn't exist anymore😊
i have seen some failed scaling but this is up there sorry dude but the nerf to asta the scalings that were never stated then i see in a comment you say we are never told that dorthys glamor world is infinit even tho thats like one of the first things we learn about it stated by luck in the elf arc just alittle concirerd if you like deku that much or dislike asta like your video's tho
I never downplay character. If I don’t scale a character to the same level someone else thinks it’s because I don’t find their argument compelling or because it’s dumb. Can you give me the chapter where it’s stated glamor world is infinite in size? Or at least give me the statement that says it’s infinite
@@D.bunk_ ok I couldn't find the chapter but I found the ep it's ep 111 4 min and 16 seconds that's when luck says there is no end to the dimension so there how do you feel that your just skipped over such a big feat that really didn't matter in the end since asta still clowns Deku in everything but regardless there it is you can find the manga panel if you feel like searching for it in manga but I'm not bothers I know luck says it's in both manga and anime and then the elf even says anything is possible in glamour world so really she could be the reason there is no end because she chooses for there to be none
@@doriankamanzi6874there also the different level of hell each level had different dimesion and tge tree had delcare kinda outgrew it or above it if i remember correctly and did he use my possible scaling of asta?
@@pixelspixelation6418 Wait a minute,how strong do you think Asta is, I mean his highball with his striking strength ( not the dimensional slash/universal scaling)
