My old machine was a Gateway I7 DX4860. The Dell 3880 is super fast and a nice machine. The Gateway was good PC, however, within a year the DX4860's onboard sound completely died, which meant I had to buy a Audiogy sound card. Other than that, the Gateway was a real warrior.
@@blue2elmer1 I lost faith in Gateway at least 15 years ago and I haven't looked at one since. It might be fun to grab one for a future series and take another look. -- Mine is an i3 _for now._ :) Truth be told, I'm surprised by just how good the i3 is. I'm very curious how big of a step up an i7 will be... and then a little later an i9-11900.
@@TheBrokenLife To be honest with you, the Gateway with that old I7 2600 CPU, 16 Gigs of RAM, SSD drive and the GT1050 TI was not that bad for games. I still have the Gateway, it is now doing duty as an entertainment PC hooked up to the stereo and tv in the basement family room. I took it out of its Gateway vertical case and bought a horizontal case and it looks neat next to the Stereo Amp in the entertainment unit. Yeah, I was mad at first when the sound went out after only a year. It was not Bios, it was not Windows, the motherboard fried the onboard sound chip. The Audigy is actually a step up and I have my whole music collection on it now and just use it to stream movies and play MP3 music files. The 1050 TI i had in it was replaced by an old 730TI with DDR5 i had laying around. Good retirement for the old Cow. (get it, the Gateway logo? lol.)
@@blue2elmer1 Oddly... My 3880 is eventually destined to the same fate and live behind the TV in my home theater. Also oddly, I will be ditching the integrated audio in favor of something that supports at least 7.1 audio. So, we're both headed to the same places whether or not we planned it! And... I had entirely forgotten about the cow ads and boxes. That's a throwback for sure.
I bought this exact machine a month ago. I was able to upgrade it by adding a 3TB hard drive for data storage, the factory 3880 Dvd drive (used from ebay) and added a GT 1050 TI from my old computer and all seems to run stable. The only outstanding item is to replace the 4GB chip for an 8GB Ram chip so that I can enjoy 16GB of RAM. Hard to believe I paid $130 for the GT 1050 in 2018. I was afraid at first, but the power supply handled the 1050TI with 4GB DDR5 Card. No issues... Knock on Wood!
Everything I have done with mine pretty well confirms your results. It's hard to believe back in December when I made the buyer's guide video I told people not to pay Dell for a 1030 because it was an $85 video card. The world changes fast...
I've been holding back on buying a 1030 just because I didn't know if I'd need a fan (the rare few vids on here of people upgrading the GPU on these things did end up doing so, a somewhat complicated process involving installing AND quieting the fan, sometimes with molex wires) and the power draw but this lil MSI seems pretty legit for what it is even with the passive heatsink. As relieving as it is to finally get a GPU video, the PSU video is what I'm really lookin forward to... I'm staying tuned...
A couple of things I didn't do with the MSI that "could" poop on a party, but I really doubt it. 1 - Overclock it. To my shock, the card is openly advertised as being the "OC" edition and Afterburner can and will overclock it. I didn't try and I didn't see a need, but, I imagine you can really put some heat to it if you tried hard enough. 2 - I only played games for maybe 3 hours, total, and none of them appeared to be very thermally taxing to the system based on the wattage draw. If you found a particular game that really made it work, it could generate _some_ amount of heat and maybe make things warm inside the case. I doubt it though. I _couldn't_ get the machine over 130 watts (and only in one burst) no matter what I did. That is with an i3, but... that's a pretty tame heat load. 3 - If you had to add a fan, it's really not that tough. There are fan "cards" that occupy a card slot and just plug into the PSU. Getting one that is quiet might be a challenge, but at some point it's difficult to have it all. Personally, fan noise isn't much of a concern for me but I know it is for a lot of you guys... Hence the silent treatment in this episode. ;) In the future, I'm going to be assuming that if peple are going deeper down this rabbit hole that you're interested in performance above _most_ else. --- 4 weeks! :) Maybe a touch sooner, but I'll give you a small spoiler alert now: the next video you're going to be looking forward to after the PSU video is the case upgrade video because that is the direct kin of the PSU upgrade video. So... If you're really dying to see the PSU be replaced, then you're pretty much scratch building a PC out of Dell parts. I'll show the 3 options and explain my thoughts further, but that's where this is headed. In 2-3 more videos, it won't be a Dell anymore.
So glad you got the DDR5 version. The DDR4 release made quite a big stink, considered a borderline scam. It's still a naming flaw some retailers happily exploit.
It is _really_ easy to buy a DDR4 card by mistake and not just this one from MSI. I was wondering if something unsavory was going on under the surface. Sounds like maybe there was.
@@GamingChairDiff I'm pretty sure we'll have 2 series going simultaneously and they will probably be competitors to the 3880 from whoever has the best prices when the time comes. I'm thinking Lenovo and HP.
I went ahead and added an XPG Spectrix S40G RGB M.2 to my 3880 and cut a window in the side panel to show it off. If anyone's wondering, the S40G does glow in rainbow pattern by default and can't be controlled with the OEM RGB software or any other with the stock motherboard.
@@TheBrokenLife I honestly don't care much for the light show myself, nephews love it though. Also the drive was pretty cheap at $45 for a RGB 256GB m.2. Supposedly the lights affect the performance greatly due to thermal issues or power draw (I tldr'd the reviews), but since this is going to be a show piece I don't mind the loss. The next thing going in is a pair of XPG D60G ram...at some point
I could see something like the lights causing technical issues when powered directly from the port. As a total coincidence I was window shopping some RAM today that happened to have flashy lights and it was disturbingly expensive. Now that we've had this conversation, I wonder if that's why. Accuracy errors with your RAM will screw up _everything._
Next upgrade, power supply and case and motherboard or an atx power supply running out of the case or a sfx power supply. Thanks to the stupid proprietary case and motherboard from dell that makes it impossible to install any power supply in the case with screws. Plus I already upgraded my case, motherboard and power supply and I also installed all the dell components in the new case and motherboard so now I can do any upgrades without the dell limitations
I know you know that's where I'm headed because we've talked about this before. But, the 3 options I'm illustrating, in my order of my preference: -External ATX PSU -Internal SFX PSU -Internal larger Dell proprietary PSU I've kind of let the community talk me into the second 2 options so I can, more or less, illustrate why _not_ to do them. But, I know if I don't show my work that people will still ask, so we'll just do them all. After that, I'll probably upgrade the CPU.
On the watts used by the card, it can only use a maximum of 75w because that's the maximum that PCI can provide, so any card that is rated at 75w or less should work in the computer. The best one at the moment would be something like the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650. I have a 1050 TI in mine because it's from my previous computer that my 3880 replaced and I can't afford a 1650. Something that I'm looking at getting is the Intel AX210 Wi-Fi / BT M.2 card to replace the Wi-Fi / BT card that came with it. That'll bump it up to Wi-Fi 6e and Bluetooth 5.2, which are newest versions of each. Looks like they're running around $45 on Amazon.
One of the reasons I wanted to measure the wattage on the machine was to see what the draw of the overall system was. If a card were actually pulling 75W, combined with the 75W baseload I was seeing, I'd _probably_ recommend people avoid it because they'd be running the PSU a little too near its maximum design wattage for my comfort. If the baseload was 100W, I'd absolutely recommend against it. But, that's just _my_ comfort. By conducting the study, I've equipped people with the tools to make their own decisions. Or at least I hope I did. I'm not up on the current WiFi and BT standards. What's the advantage of the upgrade and what would you need on the other side to take advantage of it?
@@TheBrokenLife I totally agree with you on it pushing the limits if the card pulls the full 75w available to it. The 1650, like the 1050, shouldn't pull the full 75w during normal use. I'm no gamer (beyond lie Age of Empires type stuff), but I would like something with more transcoding power than the 1050 has as far as better / faster hardware support for newer CODECs, so that'd be the only times I'd be using the card to a substantial fraction of it's potential. One of these days GPU prices will come back down to where I can afford that 1650 to test it out. Of course, my 10th Gen i5 3880 might be obsolete by then :-) The Wi-Fi part of the AX210 would only be beneficial if you have a Wi-Fi 6 / 6e router. If so, then you'd be able to use the 6GHz band, which (at least for now, since it's pretty new) is a lot less congested than the 2.4GHz & 5GHz bands. The 6GHz band also has a lot more contiguous space within it so that there are more channels available without worrying about overlap with your neighbors as much (which is good for apartment dwellers like me). The Bluetooth side of it uses the 5.2 protocol, which gives faster speeds, lower latency, and lower power consumption. I'm not as familiar with the inner workings of Bluetooth, but as with all networking standards, every time they bump up the version number there's always faster speeds and more features. The reason I'm looking at getting the AX210 card and replacing the one that's in the 3880 (Intel 3165) is because a couple months ago there was an update (not sure if it was a Windows Update or a driver update from Dell for the 3165 chipset) that made my audio sttuudderrrr every time I move my Bluetooth mouse around. I've tried everything short of wiping the OS and loading it all from the ground up again (rolled back the most recent update, reloaded all the drivers, tried some Windows Fixes, and even some registry hacks from Googling the problem). The Dell module that's in there is using Bluetooth 4.2, so I'm hoping that moving to Bluetooth 5.2 might allow me to start using my Bluetooth mouse again (I'm currently using the wired mouse that came with the computer). 1st world problems and all that. Great video again, BTW. I always like watching what you're up to with yours. Not much content any more coving the basics of how to do the upgrades most consumers are wanting on their systems. Everyone wants to do thing like "Let's build a $10,000 SSD NAS RAID for our 10Gbps fiber network." type stuff nobody watching RU-vid will ever be able to afford.
I'm generally of the opinion that if we're going "much" past as Dell birthed a 3880, that we're probably kinda doing it wrong so we should probably do it really wrong. So, if I were to consider something like a 1650, I may as well just prep up to go even bigger and badder than that while I'm doing it. I have a game plan to turn that frown upside down if your 10th gen is outdated by then... We're probably 3-4 videos away from it at this point, but we'll get there. Is range on the 6GHz band even more diminished than it is on 5GHz? For me, pretty desperately trying to be a country boy, that's what I would like more of. I can absolutely see the advantage of getting off of the more crowded air as an apartment person. I've only lived in an area that was dense with apartments for a few months, but the amount of wifi networks was insane. Made me wonder what a place like NYC or Tokyo must be like. On the plus side, some people had hilarious network names. "Pretty Fly for a Wifi" and "Lord Of The Pings" are the two that stuck with me. Around me now are NETGEAR-435347 and HPOFFICEJET345, etc, etc... I'm the only one making an effort. Hummm... That is odd behavior. As a -ghetto- interim solution, I wonder if one of the super inexpensive bluetooth dongles would work? Thanks! However, the first person that hands me 10 grand to build a NAS RAID box is going to get to see me do it. I can absolutely be bought. ;)
@@TheBrokenLife - LOL! I use my Wi-Fi ID passive-aggressively. Our downstairs neighbor has a little boy (probably about 5 or 6), and I've had my Wi-Fi be stuff like "Stop riding the scooter in the house". It's currently "Thump Thump Thump Thump" because he always seems to be jumping around (low frequency vibrations seem to carry through the building like the noise is coming from next to you instead of another apartment). The people that lived there before liked to party like it was a frat house until 3:00am every night. I came very close (had it on my Amazon list) to buying a microphone (to bolt to the framing), a 1000w amp, and a ButtKicker LFE system (bolted to the floor). I was going to force-feed their own noise back at them so loud their teeth would rattle. I grew up on a farm, so I don't tolerate others invading my peace very well. From what I've read, the 6e carries further than the 6, and the 6 carries further than the 5. I don't know if it's because it has more channels available to fine-tune what ones work best in a given situation (building materials and so on) or what. On the Bluetooth dongle front, I bought an ASUS USB one to see if it was just the on-board Bluetooth card, but still had the same issue. I think one of the problems is that the system absolutely refused to allow me to disable the built-in Bluetooth. I need the Wi-Fi for connectivity (it's in another room than my cable router and I don't think the landlord would appreciate me tearing up walls to run CAT-7 around the apartment). At the time there weren't any Bluetooth 5.2 USB adapters, so I think the one I ended up getting was either 4.2 or 5.0.
I was tempted to send little messages like that, but I tend to prefer to stay more anonymous... So I'm permanently passive-aggressive if anyone knows the reference and understands that both names are on the same network: 5GHz is Colossus and 2.4GHz is Guardian. Have fought noise wars with neighbors.... have won... the equipment from those conquests will be on the broken tech channel at some point. The battle was won, but I have some fallen solders to repair. So it may have 2.4 range again? That's better than nothing. I wonder what your bluetooth does if you straight up remove the card and only try the dongle. I understand you'll need the card back for connectivity, but I wonder if it would work?
I noticed you had "VSYNC" turned on in your gaming demos. "VSYNC'" or Vertical Synchronization, locks your framerate at the Monitor's refresh rate, so you don't get screen tearing artifacts. That's why you maxed out at 60FPS.
They made them in all sorts of configurations and seem to offer different versions all the time. Mine still appears to be the most basic one they built.
@@unumprovident101 Sounds like you should probably contact Dell for warranty support... especially for it not shutting down. That could be a hardware issue.
Thank you very much for this video. I have an Inspiron i5 3880 and, like you, I know very little about modern graphic cards. I've been toying with a program called "Titanic Honor & Glory" that really taxes the built in graphics chips. If t he price is right this looks like a nice upgrade.
You're very welcome! It appears that T/H/G isn't even in Alpha stage yet and I can't find reliable system requirements for it, so, it's hard to know if a GT 1030 will serve you well. For the current market price, I think it would be worth the gamble. Buy from Amazon and return it if it doesn't? 🤔
@@TheBrokenLife I can play the Alpha on my Dell (i have 12MB) but I need to use a -dx11 tag for Unreal to work or it crashes. It's very impressive but a huge download..
From what I saw, probably about 75w, which works out pretty perfectly for what the bus can supply. I think some of my subs have mentioned that there are 75w versions of 1660 cards out there, so that's probably the most advanced card it would run.
Just want to let you know that I loaded my first video card, got acclimated with my first cheap game controller and wrecked my car many times in my first game. Had a ball!
@@jerbear4478 They're still cheap right now so there's no real harm in grabbing a 360w PSU. If you put a GT 1030 in it, that will be far more than enough.
While it's notorious that the power supplies on these are horribly low, the 1030's aren't going to draw more then 75 watts themselves, and there just isn't enough power consumption for it to be an issue on 3880's. If you want it to be quiet the evga fan less version is prob your go to, but it's almost a "collectors item" because they stopped making GPU's. There's some "Super turbo OC cards" that have come out that could be sketch for this also, but those are far more expensive for little gain. A lot of text just to say that yes, this is the best general option without upgrading everything else. But the DDR4 version of these cards is another nightmare altogether, the DDR4 version of the 1030's will actually run WORSE then the intel graphics. It bottle necks everything to an absurd degree.
I heard the same thing about the DDR4 version several times and was pretty disappointed to see this exact card, in the same exact box, marketed with both memory options. 🤦♂ Anyhow, now that its long in past, I would probably consider the larger factory Dell PSU and whatever card was "good" in the 150W range. I think that puts you comfortably in to a 1660, which seems like it would be a good balance for this type of system. I'm still impressed with what the 1030 was able to do on is own though.
Try GTX 1650 LP next time, thought for sure my card would be wasted on this crappy Dell due to its insufficient power but I just had to risk it and see the results for myself. I didn't do any power calculations though as I lack the tools to do so, that's why take this with a grain of salt.
I'd love to try additional cards, but market prices are still unfavorable to do so. Really, anything that doesn't require anything more than PCI power should work fine.
Many of my subs have reported that a GTX 1050Ti works just fine in it and I have no reason to doubt them. Really, anything that pulls less than 75w should be fine. After that you'll have to upgrade the PSU.
when you added the graphics card, you have 2 HDMI so which one you use? the one attached with the motherboard or the new one attached with the graphics card?? Thanks
It has 3 HDMIs now actually, 2 on the GPU, one on the MB. To get the performance benefit of the GPU, use the ports on the card. The port on the board still works though.
@@sambadashingchannel649 No, with a Dell upgraded PSU from a different model. I have an entire video about PSUs for this machine, which is linked in the playlist in the description.
Another question, is it necessary to use the HDMI adapter for the graphics card? I want to know which cable I need for the GeForce GTX 1660 because has 3 slots in the outer shell of the PC.
@@TheBrokenLife your videos have helped me with my upgrades. The monitor gets here on the 28th and I have a HDMI 4K certified cable waiting. After looking at the rated port speeds of the MSI GPU and the monitor I will receive better speeds with a Displayport cable that is certified DP8K.
@@95SLE When I looked into this before I don't remember there being a big a difference between HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.4b(?) as far as performance via 4K. I was looking into it regarding the Intel Graphics at the time, but it seemed that both standards can support 4K @ 60Hz. I'm also curious to see how the 1030 is going to drive a 4K display. My general assumption would be that doubling the resolution would halve the output, or maybe worse. Just for streaming movies that's probably not a big deal, but gaming may not work out awesome. Keep us posted!
@@95winston In a 3880, it appears an i7 is a waste of money. I installed one in mine and the results were less than impressive. The board refuses to provide enough power to the chip to make it useful. As far as comparing the processors to each other, there are a lot of websites that have benchmarking studies comparing them.
@@TheBrokenLife I was looking on the dell website and i saw a Inspiron i7 qith a graphic card but that was £410 pounds more expensive that a inspiron i5 without a graphic card i don't play games very often so your MSI graphic card would do me
@@95winston You may find that the £410 is less expensive than buying the components separately. You could theoretically make money buying the more expensive machine and sell the parts you don't want.
So I’ve had a 3880 for a while, and I wanted to upgrade the graphics card for gaming purposes. I’m not looking for super great graphics, just something that’ll run smoothly. I’ve always wondered about putting in a GTX 1650 but I’m not familiar with software and pc building in general. The one thing I was wondering is compatibility with the firmware. Would the 1650 be compatible at all? Power supply will have to be upgraded obviously, and probably will need a BIOS update, but other than that I can’t think of a reason why it wouldn’t work.
I just got the 1660 super and went to install to find out that the power supply doesn't have a harness to plug it in🙃. Luckily after watching your video, checking out other videos in the 3880 Playlist, I now have more of a view of what to upgrade and what to get. So I'm assuming at this point I need to upgrade my power supply to get the harness to even run this graphic card. I hope that new video comes out soon because I want to game😁
Yep, you're going to have to do something other than what you've got with either the video card or the PSU. Other viewers have told me there are versions of 1650s/1660s that don't require external power, but I don't know anything about them as I'm priced out of that market. It might be worth a look around? PSU video will be out in probably 2 weeks.
@@TheBrokenLife gotcha, thank you for the feedback. I ended up getting it for 100 bucks so I saved probably 500 on the graphics card, luckily, it was still in the box lol. I wasn't going to let it pass me by, my buddy upgraded to the 2070 so he cut me a deal
@@DrFetusCS It's not so much about size of PSU in capacity as it is physical size and form factor. I'll cover all of this in the video. You got a great deal from your buddy. You could always flip that card on eBay and do something else.
@@TheBrokenLife I thought that too, but might as well run it. My cpu is good for the graphics card so I'm going to upgrade ram, cpu cooling, power supply and ssd and I think I should be set
Hey man am not sure if you remember me but ypu helped me see if the dell i had was a scam and i got a new pc like 2 days ago its a 2060 the overclock version cpu i-5 10500f 16gb ram and 500ssd and i was wondering if this one is a scam ;p
@@Slow_Egg Getting a good deal is not on its own enough to verify that you've been scammed. If you actually find a good reason to believe it's counterfeit, I'd probably get with whoever manufactured the card and ask them about it. The next step would be to contact Nvidia as I'm sure they have some sort of way to verify the chipset is authentic.
I don't have any experience with USB C add-on cards, but I would imagine any well regarded card would work. As for Display Port, I have a few other questions there. If you just want to connect a single monitor via DP, you can just use an HDMI to DP converter cable. They're flawless. If you want to connect 2 monitors via either DP or HDMI, you're either going to need a video card with multiple of those ports (the GT 1030 I installed in this video would do fine), or you need to combine your thoughts and find a USB C card that also supports video over USB, then buy a USB C to HDMI dock. That's how most laptops do it these days. So, in that event, _all_ of your video would connect via USB. A less desirable option would be a VGA to HDMI converter. I illustrated one as part of this video series, but I've come to kind of dislike it. It's _almost_ perfect... but not quite. If you're doing editing work it would probably drive you nuts, but if you do 99% of your work on one screen (which I do) and then use the second screen for ancillary tasks, then it's not so bad.
I have a question i just got into gaming pc's and my pc is a dell 3880 i5 11400 with intel UHD graphics 730 and 12GB of ram and this might be a dumb question but i've seen on amazon the gt 1030 MSI version and the gigabyte version and im wondering if they are they same things and if they arent the same which one will be best recommended for my pc? Thanks
That's not a dumb question at all. It can actually be a bit confusing. The big thing you have to watch out for on the 1030 cards is the speed of the RAM. GDDR5 is what you want. MSI even offers the card I installed in the video in both GDDR4 and GDDR5 _sold in the exact same box._ You have to pay careful attention to make sure you're getting the right thing. Usually you will get a hint of which card it is by the price. GDDR5 cards were almost twice as expensive when I was shopping. The lesser thing to consider is whether or not you want a passively cooled card: i.e., a card with no cooling fan. Given what I know about how my 1030 behaves in my 3880, I don't see a need for the fan. If you get a good deal on a card with a fan and don't mind the slight bit of noise, that's fine too. As far as which manufacturer is best, I really have no strong opinion. Just stay with a recognized name brand and you should be fine.
@@TheBrokenLife Thank you for replying, so the GDDR5 is the graphics card is the one i want will so that means any graphics card that has GDDR5 labeled to will work well with my pc.
@@TheBrokenLife I see that there are like GDDR5 and GDDR6, GDDR3 and the GDDR5 im just wondering what are the differences between these, sorry if im asking alot of questions i just don't want to get the wrong one lol
Anything that doesn't require external PCI-E power would work fine. Or, you can put a really mild (and affordable) factory Dell upgraded PSU in it for a few dollars and run a better card if you want. The power supply upgrade video is in the 3880 playlist (which is linked in the description).
@@TheBrokenLife this card is like console level at lower settings also i have a I5 intel core proscessor and 12 gb of ram i just bought a gt 1030 and this is one of the best budget gpus
@@benrboss There may be something else going on in there then. I've noticed that sometimes the CPU shroud will get a little out of position and create a rattle. Just take the side off and tap the shroud and see if the noise stops. If it's actually your HDD, I'd probably start a warranty claim with Dell.
I have this model but with an i5-10400 12GB DDR4 2666 MHz the same 200w psu I am currently using a gt 1030 gddr5, I am wondering if I can upgrade to a gtx 1650 super? possibly ram upgrades also?
@@TheBrokenLife So would the single fan ASUS Phoenix GTX 1650 OC gddr6 work well for gaming on my 200w psu? I can't seem to find much information about this and don't want to fry my system.
It looks like a lot of the low profile cards are double height. Since you don't need an LP card, I think I'd stay away from it because it may not fit in the case. In the power supply upgrade video you can see a GTX 1660 inside a 3880 and it fits fine.
@@human8985 Sounds like you'd need to find a 1650 that will run on the power the PCI bus will provide and is also in a package that will physically fit inside the case.
Hi again!, I'm installing my 4gb ddr5 into the pc right now, how do I know my pc won't disintegrate and get destroyed, people keep saying in a need 300w and I only have 200w and I have a i5 10400 can you tell me if I'm at risk and what I can do to mitigate it?
RAM is pretty independent of PSU size. You should be fine there. As far as instilling you with confidence for whatever else, I think it was either in the i7 or PSU upgrade video (both in the playlist, which is linked in the description) I demonstrate that the _most_ power I could force the PC to draw with an i7, GT 1030, SSD, HDD, and ODD all running as hard as I could force them to was something like 130w... and that was with my stock 200w PSU. Also... A GT 1030 was a factory option with that size PSU. Dell sold it that way. If it will help you to feel better, just put a larger Dell PSU in it for a couple of bucks and move on. Right now my 3880 has an RTX 4060 in it, SSD, HDD, ODD, etc, etc and it's been fine for months. I think I paid like $30 for that PSU.
You will for sure need an upgraded PSU for that and you will find that video in the playlist that is linked in the description. I have an RTX 4060 in mine at the moment and it's 226mm long by 2.2 slots high. It _just_ fits and I don't run hard enough for cooling to be an issue. If you want to game with something, you should probably upgrade cases (also a video in the playlist).
@@TheBrokenLife well that’s good news because I’m fine with upgrading the power supply. Thank you for your help! I also am using the SFX power supply from your link. One question though, will the 1660 super press against the power supply?
I could just barely get it over 100 watts, briefly. It has no problem running an i7 with that PSU either. Dell's CPU power profile essentially locks it down at 65w no matter the temperature, so it pretty much never can run out of PSU.
@@TheBrokenLife I got the vid card on Amazon used for like $25…. Best purchase ever. I’m able to run 3 monitors (2x hdmi and vga) plus wireless projector. I’m debating on upgrading the i7, but depending on what Black Friday brings, I might get a newer Tower with windows 11.
@@yflou3525 The 1030 is a great card if you can get one at a fair price. I'm glad to hear they're finally coming back down to reality. The i7 is _not_ worth it to put in the Dell board. The lack of any power management features cripples it's performance, what I suspect to be, pretty dramatically. I won't know how dramatically until I upgrade motherboards in another few weeks. We'll see!
i was able to get a factory dell 360watt power supply and was able to get a gtx 1660 super in the dell 3880 and now i get 90 to 120 fps all day 8 pin pci e power cable
Hello, there's a guy that says its dell 3880 fried after letting his pc on overnight after installing a gt1030. Any thoughts or idea how it happened ? Link of the vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DLzeJ-6inis.html
I would be very hesitant about it physically fitting inside the case (depending on specific model) and cooling it could be an issue. I really feel like the extra $150-ish on a new case and motherboard is really, really, worth it once you get into fairly powerful GPUs. You'll have a much better PC in the end if you go that way.
@@mememaster12 The space issue I imagine is in the other 2 planes. Leaving the side off wouldn't help. If it helps you decide, Dell cripples processors in their board by about 30%, so you pick up a huge speed boost just by going to a different board too...