One of the best videos I've seen on the r410 I've been looking for a video like this for a long time. Thank you for taking the time out to show step by step instructions and where to find the drivers I really appreciate this video.
Recently got my hands on 2 units of the R410. Didn't really know where to start as it was my first Dell PowerEdge server. This series really helped. Thank you for taking the time to make this series.
@@ArtofServer A quick question. How did you create the "Centos 7 diagnostics bootable USB" as you call it? I flashed CentOS7 live usb ISO to the USB FlashDrive and tried adding the drivers and BIN files to it POST-flash. However, it won't show up after boot on the PER410. (FYI, I am flashing USB using Etcher from a Win10 machine).
@@ArtofServer I bought the HM030 SAS6i/R 3Gbps for the R410 from your ebay store. The videos are awesome and being able to purchase hardware from the videos is even better!
You sir, have earned the distinguished honor of having compelled/entertained/educated me sufficiently to actually watch the longest video on RU-vid I have *personally* sat through. Congratulations! Haha and thank you for the super informative content. The only thing I wish you touched on more was motherboard revision in conjunction with CPU compatibility (rev 1, 2, and allegedly a 3). But awesome either way! I got a 410 so this is super helpful.
Ha ha ha... i'm humbled this was your longest youtube video! :-) Actually, I'm not aware of this motherboard revision topic? Do tell more... Thank you so much for your support! You are probably one of the few who actually watches my videos all the way through!
@@ArtofServer I've watched at least 3 or 4 all the way through now. Not counting ones under 20 minutes! Extremely helpful, AND I got your eBay store saved. Going to be buying a new HBA in the near future to replace my 9211. I'm a bit foggy on the motherboard revisions, but what I know for sure is that R410 revision 1 boards can't support certain (any?) 56xx CPUs, and the Rev 2 (and 3?) boards can, but only with a BIOS update (though I don't know what BIOS update specifically added the support). I did download the release notes from Dell all the way back to 1.09 or something and the later versions did make some comments about supporting the newer processors. Allegedly no R410 can support 130w TDP processors, and 95w is the max. But maybe only for rev 2? Not really sure. And I sure as hell have no idea what the part numbers are for the various revisions (I've found a few listed, but not a complete list). I'll dig up some links and post those tomorrow (it's a little late right now) but I do know if you search for something along the lines of "upgrade r410 processor" or similar, you'll find threads abound and people asking about board revisions, etc...
Thank you! I'm so glad you kept all the headaches in the video. I have an old r410 I'm about to dig into so I will likely run into the same, if not more issues.
Just finished a R720 build, moved to Dell after struggling with HPE's crapliant line of servers that never seem to work! 1st try to setup the Dell PE R720 and it worked a charm!
i just hopped head-first into servers as a hobby, and nothing couldve helped me more than your series. The little blue "press here" dots are a close second lol
@@ArtofServer hey thanks for taking the time to respond! sorry for the inconvenience, but might you know anything about the "Active LOM" information in the iDRAC Utility's LAN Parameters? It doesn't show up in your video, which is very puzzling. I got as far as using the virtual console viewer, but it says it can't access files on the server, specificaly [IPv4]:443/software/avctKVM.jar. I think the two are related somehow, but nothing i did seems to work to fix this... i had a broken cable before, but i replaced it and the motherboard is definitely connected to ethernet along with the iDRAC enterprise module. I sent another comment but i think i accidentally deleted it or something. Sorry if this is a double ping with the same inquiry lol Alrighty scratch that, i tried using shared NIC selection, and it used LOM1. the problem with not being able to access the files persists, so the two probably aren't related.
@@ArtofServer alright go figure... i was running iDRAC version 1.92 rather than 2.92. updated that and it works, but now the virtual console client fails to connect. ah sorry to bug you-i wont learn everything in a day
The i in iDRAC stands for "integrated". The DRAC 5 was basically a PCI card a bit like an H200/H700 cards designed for a special slot on the motherboard. The DRAC 4 was an actual PCI card with bracket and everything. Thought it probably doesn't work outside the relevant Dell servers. There is a cable connecting to the motherboard, but it does have a VGA connector on the card, along with an ethernet socket. Then came along the Integrated DRAC 6 which didn't burn an expansion slot and is called the iDRAC for short probably because sticking an "i" in front of a name was trendy due to Apple at the time.
Hey, you can totally update absolutely everything over the lifecycle controller easily, all you have to do is set up DRM (Dell Repository Manager) and export them to a local folder on a nfs/cifs/smb/http share.. its super easy to host it yourself and way faster than dells public repository!! Hope this helps you in future videos!!
Thanks for the suggestion. However, DRM didn't recognize the BMC firmware as an available update! I actually tried that and didn't work... I mentioned it in the video.
DRM was a no-go for me, because the R410 wasn't available in any of the catalogs. But you're not the first one who's told me that it should still work... so, back to research. And otherwise the SUU ISO can be used through the LCM.
19:12 "Mainly I want to know what IP address iDRAC has picked up" One can also obtain this information from the small screen on the front panel of the server. So while convenient, a monitor/keyboard combo is not a requirement to connect to a Dell server with an unknown IP. Even if the LAN runs on a different IP network (e.g. 192.168.1.x instead of the 192.168.0.x as this server was statically set to), one can give their PC manually a separate IP address from the server's network in order to log in headless. 22:06 "Let's power this machine up" You can also do that from the Java console you just launched. There is the Tools menu from where you can send power on, warm & cold restart, and power off commands. Once the console runs, there's no need to go back to the iDRAC page in the browser just for powering up the server.
Thanks for the suggestions. Yeah, I usually use the power control from the kvm app, but the idrac was so old on that version, there was no power control under the "tools" menu! After the update, that was available.
Going to have to watch this series now, lol. I'm looking to pick a few R410s up for my rack to make a proxmox cluster. I will be adding the DVD to SSD conversion like I did on my R710. Hope to possibly hear your thoughts on that. And possibly what storage controller is best for IT mode on these in a future video. Can't wait to watch the next. Keep up the awesome work.
One (tangental) question I had was predicated on the potential role of the NetApp DS ... as in, Level1Tech implied that somehow it may have been responsible for the improvements to their ZFS system ... although, given that the SuperMicro you used to "house, power & aggregate" the drives -- and literally didn't even need a CPU ... how COULD it be the basis for which his performance is 'good'. In the interim, I'll be doing my best to glean as much as I can from your videos to see if there's something I missed or a means by which I can solve my bandwidth issues in my T320 ... as, presumably, it can at least keep up with this computer. Again, and I cannot say it enough, I LOVE your videos and think you are FAR from getting the level of credit deserved.
Great video. I solved the iDRAC upgrade issues (on an R415) going to v2.90 in one go by downloading iDRAC6_2.90_A00_FW_IMG.exe. It creates a folder with the D6 file that you can upgrade directly through the iDRAC interface (iDRAC Settings / Update).
I found the easiest way to do the updates was to install Windows Server (temporarily) and then download and run the SUU (Server Update Utility). It caught everything for the R710, including the network stuff. You can find an .iso for it on dell's driver page by searching for "server update".
Thank you very much for going so incredibly in-depth on this historic, yet useful piece of hardware. Just today I struggled through all the firmware updates, concluding that I actually needed to boot Linux from a USB drive. I normally run ESXi and the updaters don't work there. I ran into the same issues you did with the BMC updater and I'm actually starting to think that it will only work on either a Win 2k8 / 2k12 boot, or from a RHEL 5 derivative. My USB drive booted CentOS 6, so that wouldn't fly. I'll give CentOS 5 a shot soon. Also, with regards to the BMC update: it does have one use. Supposedly it will help you make the fans quieter! There's an issue with the #4 fan, which runs at very high speeds on lower BMC versions, making lots of noise.
I've learned a lot in the past 24h and will probs make a blog post out of it. Basically, if you're dead-set on doing the BMC update: use a FreeDOS boot DVD, extract the PER410*.exe file for the BMC updater and put the contents on a USB drive, connect the USB drive before booting from the DVD. The system will also refuse to flash the BMC as long as the iDRAC is installed, so you'd have to remove both daughter cards.
@@ArtofServer I did end up making a blog post about my learning process and thanks to a Redditor who reviewed it I've learned the absolute easiest and safest way of applying firmware updates. Check Dell's instruction video here -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oESireoKiiA.html They provide complete "SUU" ISO images with all updates, which may be used from Linux, Windows or the LCM!
I was thinking of getting one of these this for my personal workstation. I'm not much of a gamer these days, but I always have friends online who ask me to join them on games. Anyway, you said "PCI" slot and video cards usually use PCIe, so I'm not able to install any kind of video card. Oh well, I guess I have to give my friends the "BAD" news... lol (really, this saved me from the trouble, thank you) Edit: oh crap, I saw this on Dell's pdf: 1 x PCIe x16 (True x16, Gen2);full height, half length I really wanted to give them the "bad" news! lol
Wow, very timely. Got an old R410 that’s collecting dust and been wanting to put in to service. Just the push I needed, thank you! As I follow along on this first part, I noticed that as you selected the downloaded viewer file, Java launched and the KVN app launched. For the novices, and IT newbies like me, did you have do load some app from Dell that then used an installed version of Java to display the remote session to the server? I’m using a Mac and Chrome to connect it iDRAC. It works, but then I get the prompt asking me what app I need to associate to the file in order to open the file. And thanks for this series, very helpful!
@@ArtofServer OK, thanks, I also note the OS difference (Mac VS. Linux). For the most part, iDRAC is getting a mud hole stomped thru it for PC and Mac. Too many security features of late from Oracle, makers of Java Web Start, just kill the iDrac application -- not good for me, but if you have direction, please share in upcoming vlog. Followed all of your directions, but as you predicted, later version of Java Web Start make the iDRAC app inoperable for Mac and PC. But given it's a remote app, I can also just get some exercise and walk over to the server and do the some thing, which I've been doing. I'm not setting up a NAS server, but have been scouring the net for the benefits of IT mode, because thanks to you I now know what that SAS 1.0 controller card in my server is worth -- seems worthy! But can you provide more information? Thanks! And keep the content coming. Very informative!
@@ArtofServer Yes. There seems to be new security in Java 8, 151 for both the PC and Mac, where if you modify out RC4, as you suggest, one still ends up with an error re: jar file doesn't contain the permissions to complete the web start, and it fails. Very frustrating.
@Art of Server Did you ever figure out the BMC update? I believe you have to remove the idrac to get the Update to take, since the Idrac takes it's place
No, I never bothered to look into that further. On other 11th gen servers, I didn't have this issue so not sure. But your suggestion might be worth trying out. Thanks for sharing! :-)
Did you ever figure out your issues with BMC updates? I am also unable to update My R410 BMC firmware. Attempting to use ipmitool to set fan speed controls, but not able to communicate. Great video series, thanks.
Also, on the drac use 1.5A02 to get past the idrac the first time (especially if its never been updated 1.11-1.20 is rediculous to get out of) , if u need a copy send me an email & ill send u the update file.. (sorry guys i dont have the bandwidth to host it publicly but will pass it along to someone who can?)
Are you telneting in or RDP in? Could you show that in separates video. I think a lot people will like it. I am glue in your channel right now. Just got whole lot of DELL servers and try to start working on them. thanks.
So after 4 years of having fun with the r410 I've changed my setup. Now the question: can I reset the idrac via its webgui? I haven't a vga monitor anymore 😬
When I was updating the BMC on my R410, I had to update to 1.33 first then to 1.54 if the firmware is lower otherwise it would error out every single time. After that I was able to update it to 1.92 no problem. Hopefully this helps somebody if they're having the same problem.
@@ArtofServer Dell had a download site specifically for just Ctrl+F and search the model and the DUP you needed but they've retired it and redirects to product support immediately. I've found them on my server and are willing to share them if needed.
While this guide is helpful and makes alot of sense, Im having a hard time getting CentOS on a bootable OS like you have. Do you have a guide on how this has been done as it seems to have been glossed over
With the repository manager: This is where I had to setup the repository on an ftp and configure the lifecycle controller to connect to it like it was the actual dell ftp because the iso or the other option wasn't working.
The ISO option was working for me, just the DRM didn't recognize the BMC firmware update at all... so it didn't include it in the bootable ISO i made with it.
Hey I have a question. I have a Apple xserve I want to find a mother board I can use the memory, and processors from this in. The ones in it are dual core. and pretty much trash the rest of the server since I"m not much of and Apple fan. The X serve I have it works I just not have a key board or software for it to boot it all the way up. I can't get much to happen on it since I guess you have to have a apple keyboard to beable to do anything with it .
I don't know if you check respond to old videos but I am having issues with my r410. I don't really know what I am doing but I bought it to mess around and try and learn how it all works and create a media center to store my pictures and what not. I changed the setting like you did, and I have the iDRAC6 plugged into Ethernet but when I type in the IP address it tells me it is unable to connect. Not sure what I am doing or if I am on the right track or even how to ask the right questions. Is there any way you can help?
You used to be able to update with the lifecycle controller, but because these are so old and EOL, the servers that provide the updates no longer have those updates. So, today, you'll have to boot some OS to run the updates.
Thanks to your Dell R710 series, I grabbed one on ebay and have it all set up for Freenas. Now I need to put it in my rack and am having trouble figuring out what kind of rack rail to get. The problem is my rack is mostly for AV equipment and is only 23.75" deep and it looks like most rails require a deeper rack. I found one on racksolutions for $175, but I was hoping for something cheaper. Any suggestions?
Hmmm... That's a tough question. I've only ever used actual server racks. Maybe use a shelf? Those are cheap... Just make sure the shelf is rated for the full weight of the server.
Can you explain why you install the iDRAC Enterprise card instead of just upgrading the embedded card with an Enterprise license? What are the benefits?
The 11th gen Dell servers didn't have a embedded card where you can install a license to enable the feature. That started with the 12th gen servers. On the 11th gen, the iDRAC6 modules (express + enterprise) determined the features you get.
The CentOS7 bootable USB drive was setup like I showed in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-laC7nsY1SyM.html (except the video is CentOS 8, but the process is the same).
Thanks for your video But I face stranger case , in T140 after I changed mode from bios from ahci to raid mod , when I boot windows , I can't see any hard dsik or SSD in install windows no located , I try other way , I did all steps from lifecycle into deploy windows . And after finsh all , when you boot , you will see now dive in windows box setup If you have any solution plz replay
Depends on the controller. If you use the SAS6/iR with IT mode firmware, you can use any size SAS HDD available today, but only up to 2TB SATA HDDs. If you use the H200 (and sacrifice the one PCIe slot), you can use any size SAS or SATA HDDs available today.
@@ArtofServer Look like the server is powering on while you are still working on it. Or are you using Virtual machine. If you could show the connection at the back it might help.
You need to investigate why the system cannot find your boot device. Start with the system menu and examine the boot devices configured and their order. Then look at any driver controller's boot configuration.
@@ArtofServer nother question or two, is that board the fans by the powersupply separate or part of the PSU unit my 410 doesnt have the redundant PSUs? good news is my r410 is up and running... Bad news is... one bay is running Windows server, the other 3 are only 2tb drives for now.... in theory i should be able to swap 1 of the 2tbs out for larger... have the raid array rebuild on that drive then continue to swap rebuild... swap rebuild? or is there some fancy thing i need to do?
The board you are asking about is probably the PDB as described. If you don't have the redundant hot swap psu setup, then you don't have a PDB; just a normal single PSU.
When i go to use launch virtual console it fails im using windows tho i added an exception in java for the out dated certificate otherwise it wouldnt even let me attempt to launch the virtual console but now it wont connect
You might need to watch my video on fixing Java security settings: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-drhSo9Xl9M0.html and part 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qxOk-AbIk9Y.html
@ArtofServer l didn't order anything from your store but I have used R410 server and the default settings isn't working ( New IP is not Generated). I followed all the steps on your clip. I need your help on this and if something is required to be installed on it, I will buy.
Depends on what you're doing and for what purpose you want to use the server. You can consider upgrading the CPUs, or get a more modern server. I don't recommend 11th gen servers if your needs are compute intensive. These are fine for running a simple file server, or other light duty.
@@ArtofServer i just wanted to use for a freenas or storage, so i got it fairly cheap mostly saved on shipping since im in florida. I updated bios only because there was no idrac or anything else included. It has 5502's in it so i put 5645's in. Replace the what i call the server version of a dell perc 6/i with an adaptec 3805. It still was so god awful slow with booting, etc that even an ssd did little or no improvement so i chalked it all up to my ignorance or a weak board.
