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Dell's 200GbE Surprise - S5248F-ON

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In our Dell EMC S5248F-ON review, we see how this switch provides 48x 25GbE ports and both 100G/ 200G ports for uplinks. It also supports open networking operating systems like SONiC.
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00:00 Introduction
01:52 Hardware Overview
11:22 Power Consumption
12:14 Open Networking SONiC and Cumulus
14:33 Thoughts and Suggestions
16:36 Wrap-up

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6 авг 2024

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@axiom1650 2 года назад

I had no idea that switch was actually hanging there, hilarious! We're getting our feet wet with 200Gbit IB soon, can't wait.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

An advantage of having F34 trussing and some steel cables is that a 20lb switch hanging is not an issue.

@LanceThumping 2 года назад

As someone with a small home lab with barely 10GbE, this thing is insane. At 200-250W your switch is using as much as my entire server does handling all my little tasks.

@VTOLfreak 2 года назад

I'm using a Mikrotik CRS326-24S+2Q+RM which uses about 40W. Going all 10gbe without blowing up the power bill is possible nowadays. Give it a few years and the power usage for 25gbe will come down.

@dupajasio4801 2 года назад

Barely ? I still run 10gbps at work for virtualization and with about 70 vms it's still not bad. To get 1.2 GB over network is still not easy with all the pieces in the way. Unless budget is not an issue.

@gummy1204 2 года назад

Look at the thickness of those impedance controlled PCBs, the via stitching on the edge of the boards too, even the BMC daughter board where it probably isn't required. That's a thousand bucks right there, wow!

@sevenredundent7256 2 года назад

I love the way Patrick says product names that ends in the letter 'n', it always makes me smile.

@antonpopov2480 2 года назад

A lot of manufacturers are moving to Com-e designs to allow for pcb reusability to save engineering time and costs..it really help simplify things. Especially when coupled with a SAI enabled asic

@hikingpete 2 года назад

Congratulations Patrick on your hanging skills. Very well done.

@2xKTfc 2 года назад

I love the "Here I am!" you pulled from behind the switch hahaha!

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

I am very sneaky.

@KurtHectic97 2 года назад

*'5AM without coffee* That explains why the intro was slow hahaha, good video and switch.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Sometimes the studio is quietest early in the morning.

@denvera1g1 2 года назад

The perfect home-lab switch

@ryanreich7635 2 года назад

HAHAHA

@keyboard_slap 2 года назад

In ten years, definitely!

@dougm275 2 года назад

Sorry neighbor/spouse, just testing my RC jet engines.

@DergEnterprises 2 года назад

Finally, a well-hung switch to plug into my tiny micro-servers.

@jfkastner 2 года назад

Thanks for the review. As for the zip-tie-hanging I'd make small metal plates with holes for those, and attach them to the rack screw holes in the switch ... the retaining mechanism & handles for the power supplies was never built to support the weight

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

I probably would not have done this on a switch without that damage.

@michael7738 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Plot twist: The switch had that damage because it fell off the first time you tried hanging it. :-D

@RichUK5 2 года назад

There are a couple of downsides to this switch that I don't recall you mentioning. One, the SFP28 ports don't support 1Gbps. 10 and 25 is all you get. This is a pain in a more mixed environment where perhaps you want to connect WAN links or perhaps some management connectivity, or a lower end firewall. Also, the SFP28 ports can only be switched between 25Gbps and 10Gbps in groups of four, so I wonder if they're actually QSFP28 ports with on-board 4 to 1 breakouts. And at least in OS10, doing so changes the interface name which gets a bit unpleasant. eth1/1/1 becomes eth1/1/1:1 - far from a deal breaker, but it's just a little more awkward to work with than it otherwise could have been.

@ScottBrandt 2 года назад

Yes, the additional :1 on the interface numbers in 10 Gbps mode is super annoying when trying to make configuration changes for ranges of ports!

@deekaythewhitewashedindian 2 года назад

mmmmm American MegaTRANDS!!!!! built beautifully :)

@KingLarbear 2 года назад

I have no idea what you said about 98% of the time but the video is cool

@hgbugalou 2 года назад

It blows my mind the amount of data that can be moved in a 1u switch these days.

@michael7738 2 года назад

I'm wondering if that battery is even needed at all. The basic bios-settings to get the switch booting into the OS could be very general, if not default. And keeping the clock should not be an issue for a device that's running 24/7 on multiple power feeds and also has multiple NTP servers configured in most business cases and data centers. As a data center networking guy myself, I never had any thoughts if the batteries in my routers and switches could have a replacement after a few years of operation.

@Gastell0 2 года назад

First thing I noticed was the "American Megatrands" xD

@treykaiza 2 года назад

"This is one well hung switch!".....I see what you did there.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

:-)

@MarkRose1337 2 года назад

How many systems do you typically have active in the lab? Would be fun to see a lab tour someday!

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

We actually use three different data centers with multiple racks, and are building a fourth for liquid cooling in Austin this year (and taking down the oldest one with only four racks.) Usually we are in the ~200 nodes online range but there are also boxes that sit powered off and we only bring up occasionally for back testing.

@MarkRose1337 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Interesting!

@InstantCasette 2 года назад

0:32 🤯

@padraigconnolly2991 2 года назад

Any chance of doing a video on the Sonic install? That would be very interesting

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

We had a SONiC on a cheap Arista switch a few years ago on the main site: www.servethehome.com/get-started-with-40gbe-sdn-with-microsoft-azure-sonic-for-under-1k/

@padraigconnolly2991 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Great, I'll give that a read through!

@okoeroo 2 года назад

Swing it baby

@JohnAngelmo 2 года назад

How about looking at a few Arista switches if possible?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Good idea. It has been almost a year since our last one! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZPbxScPWOx4.html

@BrianThomas 2 года назад

I have one of these in my house.

@MarkRose1337 2 года назад

I like this new trand of well hung hardware

@dupajasio4801 2 года назад

Amazing. And not oh it's Cisco so it's the best. Btw did you know Cisco raised prices by about 10% three times over last few months ? Not that they use any other chipsets than competition. Would love to hear from users of other than Cisco switches.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

The problem is that many vendors have lead times out to the end of 2022 already on some switches

@ewenchan1239 2 года назад

I wonder how loud the Dell switches are compared to the Mellanox switches. My MSB-7890 - I can sit next to it and it doesn't really bother me that much in terms of noise. But I would be concerned about the noise levels coming from the Dell switches though, only because I have no idea how loud they get.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Just under 40db when it is closer to 200W, but at 600W the fans would need to ramp

@ewenchan1239 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo AWESOME! Thank you. Good to know! :)

@sashalexander7750 2 года назад

Hang in there)

@manekdubash5022 2 года назад

So, apart from the massive power draw, the noise, and the total overkill for a home system, this is a great piece of kit. Utterly bonkers!

@icobb 2 года назад

The joke would have been better with a well hung QSFP Module

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

:-)

@SirCrest 2 года назад

I thought it was just a composited image 🤔

@metallurgico 2 года назад

Lol at the intro

@jakobfindlay4136 2 года назад

I wish my computer's were that hung 😎 nothing to impede airflow

@7th_project 2 года назад

i thought it was a image but its literally suspended in mid air lol

@DrivingWithJake 2 года назад

Damaged as it was not well hung at one time! :P

@ultraderek 2 года назад

Me- Yo switch how’s it hanging? Switch - slightly to the left.

@antonpopov2480 2 года назад

Curious how 100gb with breakouts we’re cheaper than 25Gb? You must not be using DACs?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Usually QSFP28 to 4x SFP28 breakout DACs are not 4x a SFP28 to SFP28 DAC in price, so we save on cabling and need fewer switches since we get more effective ports per switch. We test quite a few 2U 4-node boxes so those use a lot of ports per U.

@ZealotPewPewPew 2 года назад

8:09 >the batteries get older over time Me, too.

@KingLarbear 2 года назад

Linus lost his server to corruption, maybe you could teach him about how to take better care of a server and this would interesting for him to have since he said it would take 1 to 2 months to backup his new data at 24 hours a day... that's a lot of time for error

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Check out the original LTT Jellyfish Fryer video to see if you recognize anyone

@TheDillio187 2 года назад

Watch, they register the name “American Megatrands”

@WoLpH 2 года назад

Why would you record a video at 5am? But more importantly, why without coffee?! Perhaps I'm an addict but I definitely couldn't

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Sometimes I speak too quickly when I am awake and have coffee

@WoLpH 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Haha, that makes sense. Love you videos by the way! It's by far the best content out there for these kind of devices

@DoctorX17 2 года назад

I gotta know... Is the unit you used for pictures still functional? Also, why did you literally hang it? XD

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

It is, but we are not using it because of the damage. On why hang, perhaps the better question is: why not?

@DoctorX17 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo fair, I'd be a bit worried about damage related issues down the line for any real production use. On why not to hang... I guess it doesn't matter if it falls, but it seems like more work than adding an image in post :P

@MrHeHim 2 года назад

cry's in 2.5GBps file server and Atom 330/1GBps pfSense powered firewall But, honestly.. running RAID 1+0 on HDD's 1GBps is still more than enough for 99% right now. Hell, there's a small company i do work for that still has 10/100 with 2 1GBps ports with no need to upgrade 😅 Maybe in a few years when the switch dies🙃

@macrowave9427 2 года назад

Still using the 48 port gigabit procurve switch I bought for ~$20 4 years ago.

@EndroEndro 2 года назад

200w that a hungry boi xD

@clipvue222 2 месяца назад

Is this a Poe switch?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 месяца назад

No.

@turtleb01 2 года назад

Can someone explain how a channel with 77k subscribers review this much expensive datacenter hardware?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

STH RU-vid is very small compared to the main site. We do way more expensive hardware and most reviews do not get a video.

@hgbugalou 2 года назад

Hopefully no one buys these in business because of the megatrands mess, and they dump them on ebay for cheap so all of us home labbers can upgrade our 10 gig solutions we are currently not fully utilizing. 😂

@destinydott4779 2 года назад

i gotchu

@bucharestcartraffic 2 года назад

it's strange that you like it that close to your face .... i guess you are used to having it there.

@christopherjackson2157 2 года назад

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. ;)

@KingLarbear 2 года назад

I'm about to got hop in my Teyato and go get some burritos from Taca Ball

@KingLarbear 2 года назад

Why do we still speak in bits instead of bytes when the average consumer has no idea there is a difference... so this is 25 gigabytes per second...

@unnzone 2 года назад

Remember what I did for you when low... i had no option... i am powerless now... i cannot come myself whenever anywhere anytime I want.. Just 1 botch and this i get to here... haaahhhh

@UpcraftConsulting 2 года назад

From now on, ONLY ever pronounce the company name properly. American Mega TrAnds. And enunciate it as clearly as possible in all cases you might have a reason to do so in future videos. I also have 2 of the 32 port 100Gig models in service. Breakout cables are cool but they make the switch look very underutilized in my case. (Only have this model because Dell had stock issues on a smaller one and substituted the monster 32 port unit at the same price to complete a deal)

@unnzone 2 года назад

What the hell... i expect big from you... what the hell... 200 GB/s... what is this... just one device... huh... hahahjhhhhaaaaaaaaaa