Zellox 27inch, you must have a really long desk, I have 2 21.5inch and 1 24inch displays. All in 1080p but I was thinking about replacing the 24inch for a 24inch 4k monitor but according to linus tech tips you barley notice the difference between 4k and 1080
I didn't mention that because it has nothing to do with the aspect ratio. Some monitors simply have more pixels than others. usually the more expensive ones have more pixels. Obviously any monitor that claims to have 1080p will obviously have a certain amount, but you can get a 4:3 monitor with similar number of pixels.
reinaertdevos I made the same mistake, it was only after I was reading about 1280x960 (4:3) that I looked up 1280x1024 to discover it was 5:4 and not 4:3 as I'd thought it was
@@amystery5238 actually most crts that supported 1280x1024 was 4 by 3 this is because sometimes the aspect ratio of the resolution didnt always match the aspect ratio of the screen.
TheBcoolGuy I believe the point is that he got a high quality monitor for a good price. Age does not matter if it still beats monitors that cost $200 more. They also go for a lot more online in my case being Canadian they cost upwards of $300
IBM's standard for display resolutions, base XGA is 1024*768, WXGA (guess what the W stands for) covers a whole bunch of resolution like 1152*768, 1280*768, 1360*768 and 1366*768, most HD Ready TV's during the 2000's came with one of these resolutions
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Absolutely agree on the fact that 4:3 monitor is much more useful for work than a 16:9 one. I really miss laptops with 4:3 display... Currently have two Dell 16:10 monitors, but one of them is rotated 90 degrees to portrait location - for writing code & documents, reading PDFs and manuals. Before had two 5:4 monitors, but these are hard to come by these days...
Look for used ones on Craigslist. They were everywhere for super cheap in 2016, and are still everywhere for a cheap price now, at least in Los Angeles.
Ive certainly noticed 16:10 is making a comeback, which I personally prefer. Mainly cause they have the vertical resolution of 4:3 monitors, but the extra width of at 16:9. Also if you rotate them to portrait you can essentially have two 5:4 displays. (There is a windows first party tool called "PowerToys' that lets you snap windows to the top and bottom of your screen by holding shift while moving them. Its a must have for portrait screen users). Ive noticed a lot of programs and websites still try to target 1280x1024 to be perfectly usable, and 1200x960 is close enough that issues don't often crop up. I can't say the same about 1080x960. I currently have a 16:9 monitor with portrait 16:10 monitors on both sides, like a fat "H". It makes having 5 things open at the same time very easy.
I am completely with you on this. I purchased a Dell Ultrasharp U2412M the other day for my MacBook Pro, and I am in love with it. It was not cheap, but the 4 usb ports has really helped me. The thing I love most about my screen, is that it's a 16:10 aspect ratio, making it not only wide, but slightly taller! thanks!
Well done video! Well-edited, didn't waste my time or distract with a long irrelevant musical lead-in or background. knowledgeable, articulate, on-topic, but at the same time entertaining. Answered my questions: 1) Can you use a Dell or other PC display with a Mac? 2) Is the height/angle etc adjustable? 3) General usability issues, such as connectivity, desktop clutter, etc. I would recommend these videos to anyone.
Thanks for clearing up the mystery of that power outlet, might look into a sound bar! I too prefer Dell monitors with my Macs, functionally and esthetically. I have a huge "L" desk and I'm running a 21.5" Dell widescreen flanked by 2 matching standard 19" Dells (2 in dual-view connected to a Mac Pro and 3rd connected to a PowerMac G5) and a 4th standard 19" Dell connected to a PC. All 4 Dells are black, looks killer!
+Neil Balch Its a Kirlian field kinda thing. An aura that reaches deep into your soul. Its not charm and its not charisma...its darn near impossible to detect. But it works. Some people have no idea whatsoever it exists but if you have it...make extreme close-ups whenever being recorded and you will reach the masses with greater impact. To bad Donald Trump doesn't have it and I know...because I nearly cannot stand to look at him any longer. Oh well...hope this explanation helps...stay shiney!
I have to say this still applies somewhat today in 2018. I’ve used various Acer monitors and they have no adjustable stand, USB ports, or speakers. My 5:4 Dell monitor from 2005 has all these and it is still on my desk even now. I bought a Dell U3415W and it has all the things that you’ve described in this video. I guess Dell monitors will just continue to be the best option for productivity freaks like us!
Well for PC gaming a standard monitor limits your view, Not a lot of games find verticality very important. But I doubt you would understand that considering you use a Mac.
You are correct in observing that widescreen formats are better matched to the human visual system, which is why movies and later TV and first person games moved to wide screen. For applications that don't focus on full screen images, such as viewing and editing documents, the benefits of of wide formats are not as clear. I'm always annoyed when I see someone's wide screen filled with a single web browser window, since that's almost never the best way to read the page. Also, as he points out in the video, if you have multiple monitors on your desk, it might make sense for each to be 4:3 since the overall shape is very wide in any case.
These monitors are the best things from Dell. They actually think when they make them... My school threw out one recently, and I grabbed it. It's either 17" or 19" and had a few dead pixels in one area, but otherwise worked fine. I really love how they tilt and can be lowered or risen; the extra USB ports are great too. Most TVs and monitors tend to be made more cheaply today, with a cheap stand that is screwed to the monitor and isn't even adjustable. And I also prefer full screen vs. wide screen. I mean, I want some vertical space too!
You're not getting extra vertical space. You're getting a lot less horizontal space. Especially at that size. I have two or three of those Dell monitors, and they feel really limiting to use.
I've been using the UltraSharp's for the last 10 years. Absolutely love them. Now rocking 3x U2414H and love them for all these features (4 port USB 3 hub, optional speakers, daily chaining via DP 1.2, dat bezzle). My original UltraSharp's I bought 10 years ago are still going strong! I use them 10+ hours a day at work and they've never given me a hiccup.
The HP W2207h is a good choice for a monitor. It is 12 years old but it is still very good. It has Full HD and has a very good inbuilt speaker. It also has two USB ports. It has HDMI and VGA. It is a very good monitor and has a very good adjustable and rotate able stand. I still use it. Nice video!
I have 2 of these set up vertically. They're W2207 units instead of W2207h units unfortunately, but i was able to find them at a thrift store, and they were a good deal, plus i already have VGA to HDMI adapters. one was $14.99, and one was $9.99. Display quality is very nice, never tested the speakers.
Went with a smaller Dell UHM series, as that was one of the models that gave a rather good color gamut for the price. Other than that, getting one that represented colors just as well would have been a lot more expensive. And like in this vid mentions, the four USB ports and the way the stand works was a bonus too.
The best UltraSharps are the ones with 2 DVI ports, DisplayPort, VGA, HDMI (with 3.5 audio out), Composite, S-Video and Component video and the built in card reader on the side plus the 4 USB!
+reidras Agreed. I've used one of those before at a place I was working at two summers ago and the amount of inputs they have combined with their ~2560x1600 resolution is simply amazing.
I agree I want to buy one of those. Dell doesn't make monitors like they used to the new ones are good but they have no soundbar and no adjustable stand. now they basically all have hdmi and I still use vga some today.
Great video! I have a dell ultrasharp 2007wfp and absolutely adore it. I much prefer the 16:10 aspect ratio of my monitor compared to 16:9 or 4:3. I also have a sound bar for mine that adds a whole lot of value to me
I actually have more than one of these due to my work and they're great for general work. Dell believe it or not has put out some great everyday IPS panels.
i grew up in front of normal a monitor and one time i went to a net cafe and they where having widescreen monitors and i was like what the fuck is this the image is stretched and fucked up
I was given one of these along with a mac mini as a gift from a previous supervisor. The screen is a 24 inch or so witch composite, s-video, and component video inputs. I didn't know about the soundbar, but a pair of bose speakers were also given to me which work very well.
4:20 - no, the reason they went wide screen was 1: content - a 16:10 display is arguably the best monitor aspect, (1920x1200 is WUXGA aka Good) 2: the main reson they went with 16:9 is economies of scale, 16:9 panels used for small TV's are the same as in monitors. less 'sku-s' for lcd panel makers to dal with, cheaper for the oem's
I've had perhaps two years experience with 16:10, and I have to disagree about it being the best aspect ratio. 16:9 is wide enough, but still has enough vertical space.
1:50 The monitor says "1280x1024". For whatever reason, so many monitors that seem like they are 4:3 are actually 5:4, which can be a bit annoying when you discover a 4:3 source isn't being displayed at 4:3. Even my second monitor (at the time of writing this comment) which is a Benq VGA monitor I found in someone's hard rubbish pile (good find!), is actually 5:4 and I only found that out not too long ago and it annoys me a lot.
It might be 10 years ago, but I still have and use a Dell UltraSharp monitor. Granted mine is much newer than the ones shown in the video, meaning that it's the strange aspect ratio of 16:10 and the resolution of 1920x1200, but yet, it still has the features of an optional soundbar, 2 usb ports on the side and back, the highly flexable nature and now that mine is new enough to support HDMI and strangely enough "DisplayPort". 10/10, great monitor, would use again.
Would like to know more about specific models of Dell monitors. I do care about contrast etc because I am developing some visual deficits which make that very important to me.
Never look for a monitor by its inches measurement (length, width, or diagonal). Look at the pixel width and pixel height specifications. My HDTV is 40-something inches and the display resolution is 1600x900.
dude when your cellphone haves 2k screen do you know that its pixells tiny ? pixel per inc almost 575 in my samsung galaxy s6 in my pc its like 200 pixel per inc do you know any thing about screen man ?
It would be nice if Dell made a USB hub/memory card reader/clock that clips to the bottom. I'd rather endure some desk clutter to have decent sound. :)
@@leonidas14775 I've heard that these dell soundbars had decent sound for what they were. The closest I have is an old HP monitor which has surprisingly decent speakers. Sure, they don't rattle windows or anything, but they're decent. Definitely better than most laptop speakers I've heard.
You can also find them used as well if your a tech guy at your distribution center that deals end of lease computers, monitors, and servers. That's where I usually find some good buy on some monitor when in a pinch. And depending on the quantity as well.
I agree, the new Dell Ultrasharp U2414H is stellar in many ways. The build quality (especially bezel) is beautiful, and it hasn't lost any of the features of the old models featured in this video. The newer monitors use a different design, however, where it receives power through the USB hub on the back of the monitor and acts as an external DAC from the same USB port. Even more, the knob on the side directly controls the sound volume. Truly a treasure.
Apple I'd say is for the people who want to look rich, like the type of person who doesn't care about wasting Money on pointless cr*p, though I will say for Photography and Video editing, Apple does seem to be a bit better here, DEPENDS though. Dell and the rest to me are the right way to go, you can get much better screens from Samsung and so on for much MUCH less than Apple (meaning you can but like up to FOUR for the price of just ONE Apple). Same goes for the PC Itself. I guess it all depends on who you are and what you want (and how you want to buy it) wether you are willing to splash the cash or try spend as little as possible.
If I recall correctly some of the newer dell monitors also have an HDMI port, I like the fact that I can switch between inputs and have 2 boxes hooked into the same monitor which comes in handy on my crash cart at work
There was a point (circa 2005) when the Dell monitors had the exact same LCD panels as the Apple displays, but costed drastically less. That's around the time when I abandoned Apple displays.
I got a 19' Dell monitor and I really love it. It is great. I am using it with my laptop or for dual monitor setup. Given the fact that my laptop only comes with two USB ports, I do need an USB hub if I want to use and external keyboard and mouse (which I do most of the time). But since my USB hub cable broke, till I fix it, I will give the monitor a try as a USB hub.
I too was mesmerised when i saw the dell monitor for the first time in my life, reading manga on it was a peace of cake, just flip it and read on. ,now that i gave my desktop to my dad, i started to flip my laptop instead. :p
@@SurajGrewal I just hate Japanese anime like (naruto, boruto) and don't understand how you can read "mango", because it's better to eat "mango" it's delicious)))))
1:31. I would like to mention that there are monitors from Dell that can accommodate the sound bars, but don't have the DC 12V out jack, such as the Dell E207WFP. That's why you see models of those soundbars with the AC to DC power brick.
I use exactly the same monitor, just without the speakers, as I love my HiFi setup which has good quality speakers, as well as a turntable and a cassette deck. I love the seamless switch between VGA and DVI(HDMI), the USB ports, and the size even (it fits perfectly on my desk).
I know this video is very old, but I would like to say my piece. One of his reasons for preferring '4:3' was because of they're 'bigger'. Now, even if you know little about monitors, you will know they work using pixels. Physical size actually means nothing. For example, today's smartphones usually have 720p or 1080p resolution displays, which is actually the same pixel count as flat screen TV's! So again, physical size does not matter, you get a much larger work space with a wide screen monitor because its resolution is 1920x1080, while a Dell Ultrasharp is 1280x1024.
***** Incorrect, while it is lower resolution than 1920x1080, a Dell Ultrasharp 2007fp 4:3 monitor is 1600x1200, which is still higher than 720p, and incredibly sharp detail, and is still sufficient enough for 16:9 video quality, besides the black bars that dreadfully make you feel as though you're wasting monitor space.
I just switched from my 32 inch tv back to this monitor cause you persuaded me. tbh it looks better for gaming cause on a huge tv everything looks all spread and also I do not like a very big screen. Thanks 8-bit guy for the video :D you are my favorite you tuber I am subscribing!
@@bland9876 who would want to use it like that just to view portraits though? It's a good feature but very very niche and almost not really worth the attention imo.
5:4 means that for every 5 horizontal pixels there are 4 vertical ones. 4:3 means that for every 4 horizontal pixels there are 3 vertical ones. 5:4 is slightly more square with resolutions like 1280 x 1024 vs a 4:3 of say 1280 x 960. Of course 1440 x 1080 is a more common 4:3 resolution and thus screens of the same year as 5:4 monitors will likely have a higher pixel density.
I have had three dell ultrasharps and all lasted fine until I damaged them while moving. I like the picture they offer yet this video reminded me of all the other reasons I prefer Dell monitors. Thanks SO much for the overview!
DELL do some of the nicest LCD monitors I have ever seen, sadly I have none of the newer ones. A close second for me would be the NEC MultiSync monitors which I have a few of thanks to my uni binning them.
When editing video, you don't see it full-screen, in order to have enough room for the timeline and editing controls, so it doesn't matter whether or not the monitor's aspect ratio matches that of the video you're editing.
just found this rooting around in your old stuff. I live on these old DELL monitors and the place I work at has hundreds of them. they "updated" to widescreens and everyone wants their old screens back.. I 3d printed a case for my raspberry pi that attaches to the back of a 20in dell 4:3 the PI is powered from the usb, I have an hdmi to DVI adapter and I have a usb to snes adapter superglued to the stand. 1 plug and I have a retro gaming system with sound and screen that is reasonably portable.. im working on designing controller mounts for hanging the 2 snes controllers to the back of the screen.
+TheLMGN And what is the point of that comparison? I have a 1600*900 laptop and on my desktop my old monitor was a 4/3 ratio 1600*1200. So 1,440,000px < 1,920,000px. And? Anyways, i really don't like 16:9, so my new desktop monitor is a Dell 1920*1200.16:9 is way too wide for me and you do have a lot of useful extra space with these 120 extra pixels on a 16:10 monitor.
It is the same pointless comparison as your pointless comparison - you are comparing monitors with the same vertical resolution - i am comparing monitors with the same horizontal resolution. Where is the difference? Being monitors with a different aspect ratio, it makes sense that their resolution will be different and one will have more pixels than the other. The comparison will always be unfair for one of the monitors. Also this 720p/728p/900p/1080p/1200p does not carry a lot of meaning, because right now at home i have 2 monitors with 1920x1200 resolution and 1600x1200 resolution. Obviously saying that one or the other is 1200p doesn't clarify which monitor am i referring to. Aaaaand that's why i am saying that comparing them in that way is not very meaningful.
ilcool90 It's gimmicky. There's hardly any proper use for them besides movies and some editing purposes. 4:3 isn't exactly up to date either and for the reason mentioned in the video i got myself a 24" 16:10 1920x1200 Dell Ultrasharp a few years ago that I'm still using right now. I'm not usually a fan of going with just one brand because you think they're the best or that kind of shit but I have to admit that Dell monitors are probably the best out there. Even the ones that have aged a bit. They're just so versatile.
I'm using a hp L1730. Like the monitor in the video it can tilt the screen sideways for easy access on the rear ports down below. The screen can also be lowered by a gentle push from the top. Apparently the model i'm using can also have a supporting bracket on the back that can hold a compact mini pc case! All i'm waiting for now is the dvi to hdmi adapter and hopefully i'll hear sound! Great video!
Last year we were clearing out a room in the hotel of old HP DC7700's. We found a sealed unopened box with Dell etc printed on it....and it was one of these monitors. Brand new never used for some reason. We use it in the spa area and it's pretty good really for it's purpose.
2013: The 8-Bit Guy warns about the business strategy behind selling widescreen monitors. 2017: Techmoan buys an ultrawide monitor (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W_4nsUL4MRw.html).
I bought a Dell UltraSharp precisely for the ultra-low adjustment. I live in a loft and my monitor has to be low enough not only so that it fits between my desk and the slanted ceiling, but also so that my view of the monitor isn't restricted by a wooden beam going across the ceiling (at eye level). It's nice to know that Dell have produced soundbars for my monitor, I will be shopping for one now.
I find Samsung to be very reliable the older the display gets. I have a Samsung SyncMaster from 2005 that I still use today and it is one of the best pieces of technology that I own.
So I recently picked up for $6.99 a Dell 2007fpb for what looked like a good workbench monitor and just saw your video. when you noted the USB ports it made a lightbulb popup in my head. Whole thing can both power and work as a controller hub for raspberry pie, making it a very self contained arcade unit that requires only a single power cord once you attach the soundbar. It is incredible.
Lucky man, i managed to find one of these for £15, be it only 4:3 but it has 4 usb ports but my old monitor only had VGA and this one has DVI and 5ms 'my old one was 8ms' so i was lucky to pick this up, Im gonna overclock it when i get the chance and see how far it goes!
I've been picking these up at a local thrift store for about $5 each for a while, they really are quite nice. I am very impressed with the picture on them, and they appear well built. I have gotten a few with the sound bar, and you're absolutely about them being pretty decent for a sound bar.
I still have a few of these guys around -- great for secondary displays, even now, or for use with older machines. They certainly have the best built-in stand I've ever used! As for the 4:3 vs 16:9... I have a 27" 1440p panel and a 21" 1080P panel on one desk, and it works just fine for me... And on my main desk, I'm planning on the 27", 2 21", 2 19", and possibly more. Some will be on arms, but all 16:9... plenty of space if you're clever about it and not working with a tiny desk!
