Dell Workers Don't Want The Office 

Middle managers are literally subhuman.

This is the real reason

@@bigsyrup8567 They are still people, not sure why you hate them so much. What is wrong with someone being a department manager?

With a side order of expensive real estate (ivory towers) with poor utilisation. It's like the 90's all over

@@Gandhi_Physique Their role is to carry down orders from higher to lower. Their ability to fluff about and needlessly ruin shit, despite this easy task, is incredibly wide. It's like the middle class. They have just enough power to act like they're on top, but are just subservient to higher forces enough to make life worse for everyone below them for basically nothing.

Not just the environment, the people too. At least me. Public transport can be a nightmare, and while I do like driving i hate other people on the roads.

​​​@@BrandonCurington1both Publix transport and driving in traffic are horrible during peak hours. Public transport has its downsides but its at least more efficient so you can give it fast tracks.

Ooo the environment 😂 Such a lib concern

THANK YOU. The elites forget all about their fake save the environment crusade as soon as commercial real estate implodes.

​@@ghosthunter0950I assume publix transportation is a magical train where you can eat a great sandwich from the deli and get some fresh groceries.

They have no respect for us and the funny thing is they’re people. Other people deciding to F over other people is horrific and these corporate jackasses need to be handled properly.

so what you'd rather sit in your tiny rented room for a week straight?

@@thehen101 Yes

@@thehen101 I prefer that to sharing my space with the mass of inhumanity now teeming in the cities

Or being unable to escape coworkers at lunch, or in a minute of downtime being unable to throw in some clothes for a wash, or being unable to relax and calm myself after a stressful morning with a lunch shower. Or cooking myself a nice homecooked meal or being able to actually listen to music and focus in and work hard since I don't have pets, a partner or literally anything to distract me so home was super nice because I wasn't bothered and could focus on work or a million other benefits of being at home.

Ah yes, middle managers have certainly always been known for their ability to roll out new company-wide policies

sounds more like some execs need to justify the expensive office park space they've contracted themselves into.

@@itsuhme-meeee4775 They can't make policy, but let's not act like they can't influence it.

Exactly 💯 😅

@@itsuhme-meeee4775 they could propose this policy and describe basically the same benefits that Mental Outlaw mentioned in the video

just pack a lunch. On sundays I make a big pot of seafood curry to bring in for the week.

@@pluto8404 Seafood curry in the office microwave? Your coworkers must *_love_* you.

The office culture is gossip while chatting in the kitchen drinking coffee.

​@@pluto8404 clever way to get an exemption for the mandatory office hours. 👏👏👏

YES, this!

Get back in the cagie

This. It makes no sense for them to bring everyone in if they are just going to turn around and do nothing in person. They are just creating an excuse to downsize the company since they hired so many during the pandemic, and now no one is buying computers anymore

I hated this, having zoom meetings, when we're all in rhe same office. 😑

And costing time and money for the commute.

Wagie wagie

Except there is, connection to the company, long term efficiency, the social aspect of employment, rhythm building, work/life disconnect, etc., etc. are all rather important for both maintaining, growing and advancing employment and missing from remote work and for the mental health for employees (which in turn effects efficiency). Remote work only works if you only buy labour for the sake of labour, but for anything more complex than typical "student employment" level stuff like call centers you want employees to see their employment as more than just the sale of their labour. Having people attached to the company helps with their growth, helps with finding people beyond entry jobs and for the employee side helps to avoid a load of mental issues. School has a similar function for kids, it doesn't exclusively exist to learn but it's also the place you met friends, met new people and other such things and switching schools is for most kids an issue because of those things.

CEOs that are paid millions, billions in some cases to maximize share price are doing it for one reason? Can you guess? Hint: it's not to annoy you.

@@relo999 There is absolutely no way it is more efficient to haul a half ton of metal over miles than to send the information over at near *lightspeed* . Say what you want about the social aspect but it is *objectively* more efficient in time and energy to work remotely according to basic physics. Mental health? Lol. If you care about mental health give them the choice to work at home if they want to. Again, objectively better outcomes for that variable too.

If there isn't anyone there to worship them then there isn't a point to a big shiny building.

Man every time i go to the office i have so much collaboration. We collaborate about football, we collaborate about what we gonna eat, we collaborate about what was on youtube the night before. We collaborate so much I don't even get to check my email all day long. It's pretty great, 10/10 back to high school experience.

Fire your employees and hire Indians who work for $10 an hour. That's the future of American buisness.

Ah yes, the Muskrat Method

@@mallninja9805 Good go to work you lazy bums with all stupid excuses.

go find another job you won't stop people from buying Dell computers. You really sound like a very immature idiot. Move closer to work. You want to wok from home so you can slack off.

Agreed. Businesses like Dell already took the teeth out of that threat by hiring externally instead of promoting internally.

Yeah good luck getting a remote position now though. So if they want a promotion in a new company they’d most likely have to go in

BUH Bye!

Work from home crowd is the dead wood.

Best employees recognize the value of office work. Only bad employees will complain about that

​@@Maximilian1990what value?

But they ‘avoid layoff costs’ by antagonizing their workforce to quit ~_~

So easy to be your own boss... most people don't make any money

"be your own boss" tends to mean "lead your underlings in a way you'd never like to be lead".

who is most people

@@UnShredded The vast majority of people who are self-employed don't have "underlings".

@@hya2in8 The 'most people' who have caused a jobs shortage.

😢

I work in homes doing home fix stuff. Please go back to the office. Your are in my way. Seriously.

Please quit then.

@@dellahunknown8954 You're on all the comments simping for office plantations. Wonder why? Rage baiting? No life? Combination?

The truth is they need to justify owning a building, and low occupancy makes it look bad for investors funding them. Also, it's a kind of twisted loyalty test: they want people who prioritize themselves over the company, out. They rather want mindless workers who follow policy rather than talented people with reasonable boundaries. It's a sneaky way to lay people off gracefully without layoff notice or having to pay for severance. They could use attendance to justify PIP and subsequent firing.

Says YOU! Learn how to be accountable.

We know who the middle manager is ^

​@@drill_fiend1097 When asked for proof its better in office we got non-answers, they talked in circles.

Source: your ass

It's about accountability. Many employers don't want employees working from home for multiple companies at the same time.

@@dellahunknown8954 Which some clever people did during lockdown...must've been nice to pull in two full time salaries...

Also companies get tax benefits from cities for having employees in offices a certain amount of days

We're better off when productivity increases

And increases a companies stock values. Every time there is a mass layoff my stock portfolio goes up.

It could be the greatest tactic ever, most office work can now be automated; allow them to work from home, demand they come back, they don't, automation takes over, general public doesn't see a difference.

for jobs that require secrecy i dont think online work is a good solution

yeah no lmao. offices arent about to be replaced by something as inefficient as remote work. productivity drops every single time it is widely adopted.

@@scout360pyroz Hasn't there been studies that contradict this? Productivity goes up with remote work.

​@@scout360pyroz Then you're hiring the wrong employees and punishing the good employees by not allowing them that freedom, of course some people work better in an office, so a choice should be presented, not forcing one way or another, if anything the company's remote/hybrid policies says a lot on how much they trust and respect their employees and quickly pulls away the best talent from applying. Of course, some jobs require you to be in some sort of a lab or environment where equipment to do specific work is present, I'm sure those individuals are already happy with that considering they're pursuing that line of work.

I've worked in cyber security where consultants including me worked on confidential projects for some of the top companies where chaos would ensue if anything was ever leaked, and the company has a very flexible remote and hybrid policy, letting you choose to come in or work from home, leakage of data never happened, again comes down to hiring the right people. Anyhow, we're bound by very strict NDA's as it is and if you try to do anything of that sort, that's you never working in security again, so the stakes are definitely high.

True...but because those work from home dipshits pissed my off with all their gloating I say fuck em. make them come back make them seeth. Working bedside nursing during the pandemic wasn't easy....but according to all these whiny ass work from home dipshits their jobs were "so hard" and "they are broke they only earn 100k a year" to do what? fuck all? Yes two positions may earn 100k both nursing and "work from home" office job but guess which one is harder. certainty not the boasters

Then quit!

@@dellahunknown8954 and be homeless...because no other job apart from the fast food places would hire because there is a shit ton of ghost jobs out there for anything remotely decently paid. This whole "then just quit" is such a boomer mindset from a time where you can quit and work next door the same day

​@@silverscalederg8632sounds like yall just don't want to work. Anything else is just an excuse.

@@Joe-ti7qd Me? You're telling me I don't want to work? What kind of gaslighting bullshit is this. Look at what I replied to, I replied to someone who said "then quit" I explained why NOT to quit. You're prob one of these brain dead "office" dipshits who likes to complain their job is "too hard" while doing 1/4th the work I do.

You worked for Dell.

@@AJohnSmith no

I know it is you Sergei, good on you for getting to post bail but you're still not welcome back. If anything most people still remember you as "that guy who might not have worked at Dell".

I've heard it called "Dell Hell" by current and ex-employees. I imagine Dell is like working at Amazon. Looks good on a resume, but you'll leave inside five years.

@@bsb1975 you definitely know Dell employees :)

Windows does, opera browser does chrome does iOS does etc

I don't think Mars is open for living yet

Yea, sucks

And you're commenting this on RU-vid of all places?

Then I guess you're out 😅😅😅

You don't realize how much less you get "sick" when you don't have to deal with an hour of traffic before and after work every day.

Public transit is for hobos and peasants. Get a car.

Oh god yes. It's pretty nice, not getting a cold or something every few months or so. I think I haven't had a cold since late 2019. Some pretty tough days with allergies though, but that's different.

ours is fine. takes the stress out of driving. now being at work? 78 degrees on average working in a storage closet. management didn't care. i got sick 2x a yr.

So you'll rather take several personal hours wasted per days, insurance, maintenance, fuel, stress, NEEDING ta car to go anywhere... Many US (and elsewhere) cities SUCK. I'll take walking to a tram stop any day over the bother of having to own a car (which wouldn't even be possible, can't afford one). If I need a car I'll rent one. I live less than 10 minutes away from train station, 5 minutes to tram or bus; nearest *guaranteed* parking would actually take longer to get to and I'd have to pay a couple of hundred a month. AND I get to use the trip time chilling.

Why should your employer give a s*** how much you spend on commuting. Not his problem.

You are mistaken... it's not "our obsession", it's theirs And since they don't pay you for your commute, they don't give a shit about those hours.

I charge any time I spend commuting to my timecard. If I'm forced to be anywhere besides my home due to work-related obligations, I'm going to get paid for every second of it.

@@dellahunknown8954they should care, as they get more productivity out of someone who isn’t burnt out by the other things in their life. That’s why all these big companies have ‘wellbeing’ and ‘health’ programs.

Not for exempt employees

@@NTYT_lmayo Exempt employees wouldn't be tracked.

There's a difference between a punch card and having a 'security' camera watching your cubical.

@@MicahThomason you want to track them too, overtime pay exemption doesn't mean it's desirable to have overtime work.

Smaller companies are always the way to go. Usually better pay, not so great benefits, but also treated with more respect and consideration.

​@@SlickjitzI am happy enough to lose 5-10% salary for better conditions. the extra pay mostly ends up with the taxman anyway

@@Slickjitz Oh yeah the mutual respect is big here. There isn't really a "higher up" class of worker, the CEO / owner is just one of us, does normal work on top of his business dealings. Nothing like a big company.

That 39 days things is probably more flexible than a 3 day per week setup. You could go 39 days in a row and then work from home the rest of the year.

@@blisphul8084 39 days per quarter, not per year. That means you could work 39 days in a row in one quarter at the office and the remaining 51 days at home. Then you go back to the office for 39 days and so on.

A what corp?

Leave

​@@gownerjonesright wing rephrasing of "gay agenda"

@@ViewerEm please stop the lies

@@Vicorcivius ? thats what ive heard from lauren southern. that she and many other conservatives believe there is a "globohomo" initiative being pushed by "powerful elites". what else does globohomo mean?

Reason enough for an employer to require an in office presence.

@@dellahunknown8954 i guess, if ur a psychopath or lonely or hate ur family so u wanna see the gang , when ur feelings get in the way of doing buisness and ur a ceo lmfao

@@boyananakiev4896 Doesn't matter what you think. Their business, their rules.

people's*

The morning commute during the first lockdown was incredible. Not a single car on the road, could drive at 100mph and no one would notice.

@@MrEdrftgyuji Can't close that pandora box any more. People know it's possible :D

Be sure to add "Quits when something doesn't go my way" to the skills on your resume. Keep bouncing from job to job until you're 60 and broke.

good luck finding a job, shit is not as easy as it used to be

​@@knowwhey7559 to be fair, from what I understand, nowadays it's actually more efficient to hop from company to company as opposed to trying to get internal promotions.

​@@knowwhey7559 seething boomer detected

Yeah, those companies that don't care are not going to exist long.

lmao first time I heard "panda medic"

I'd rather be dead than work in an office again

Yea id rather be remote than rot in a outdated environment where comfort or well being of the worker isn't a priority

Same bro. I was under contract for a company that focuses on government websites and it was great, after 1 year and 3 months working for them my contract is not getting renewed and they started hiring from Costa Rica. It's cheaper to pay them, you see?

They'll come back once the economy gets better

don't do that! Join the army!

just get a helpdesk job at a governmental facility, some of them pay very well starting out, and some also offer WFH, but only after you have worked there a while

This is exactly why. Not really because of automation, but they would definitely like to try to automate them out of a job. They just hired too many during the pandemic is all

So, DO IT!

Or have your job outsourced overseas. You're not as important as you think you are.

Just get your booster and the next booster and the next booster...

@@RezaQin i shall cough on you then

@@RezaQin They stopped updating the boosters. Wouldn't do anything.

​@@MrSplosiondude did they ever do anything?

For YOU. Not necessarily the business. GTF back to work.

Then don't do it. Simple as that.

@@dellahunknown8954 🤫

You'll discover otherwise.

I wish.

Off to McDonald's with you

IT's are a dime a dozen. Hire from overseas.

@@dellahunknown8954 if u hire from overseas how are they gonna go to the office lolz

@@dellahunknown8954 you never worked with overseas workforce. Them being cheaper is often only an illusion.

This. It has got more and more like this over the years, to the point where toeing the line is far more important than actually doing anything productive.

Exactly! Hold the workers accountable.

@@dellahunknown8954 accountable for what? If productivity is up and they're doing the jobs they're getting paid for what do you need to held them accountable for?

@@boyananakiev4896 Their salaries

It's the banks fault for exposing themselves too much to commercial real estate, and for buying it up when it was so outrageously overpriced. Trying to force people to go back into the office isn't a solution to the banks making bad investing decisions, especially when there's FDIC insurance.

Heard that unrealized losses in real estate market are 3 or 4 times larger now than they were in 2008 when everything fell apart. But for now they're unrealized and in hands of corporations and large investors. It's not personal home mortgage market where someone with low income suddenly couldn't pay. It's the office and industrial buildings this time. Also, Biden printed money like crazy to stall it. Brace yourselves, this can't hold forever.

@@shadowninja6689 deposit insurance doesn't apply to tangible property investments

This makes so much sense, as to why companies are pushing for this so hard (and seemingly against their own interests in some cases). I've also heard in my company's situation that the huge tax break they received for buying and building a large campus is contractually contingent upon having X number of employees for Y amount of time -- but as written, those employees are only "counted" when they're in the building.

They are sinking faster than Intel.

Wouldn't buy a new one, but I'm using a second hand Precision 5550 that used to be someones work computer. Got it a year ago and very happy with it. i9-10885H, 32GB RAM, Quadro T2000, 32GB RAM & 1TB ssd for $650 it felt like a steal, and it's been great value...since I'm using Linux I can't see myself replacing it anytime soon...

@@PompaTG I'm using a pretty old Lenovo with Manjaro for my laptop. Also can't see needing more for a long time.

so many people die on their commute as well. Imagine risking your life just to go sit at a cubical all day.

Neither are the low cost overseas workers. lol

@@dellahunknown8954if you ever actually worked with them then you’d know they are not actually cheaper. There is a huge difference in quality between them and a local employee. I’d say the difference is so big that it’s not worth it.

@@dellahunknown8954 mate, if you can be replaced with low cost indians then you have bigger problems than commuting lol.

By Jove, I think you've got it! Why SHOULD an employer care how an employee feels? Perform the job or let someone else do it.

Why should the employer care how much gas money she saved?

@@dellahunknown8954 cuz not spending extra money on gas and working from home is a benefit which benefits both the employee and the employeer. The employee is happier (in most cases) and walks away with more money. The employeer has a happier and more productive employee (in most cases) AND the worth of the job listing is higher since the net money employees walk away with is higher this makes it easier to attract better talent without the employer having to spend more of his money. It's pretty obvious. Not to mention that a lot of companies that dont own real estate and rented office space were able to downsize their offices and save on rent greatly, directly making back money for the employer that was lost on rent.

@@JorgetePanete fixed.

@@dellahunknown8954 Why are you such a cuckold?

That's what they are exactly doing. They would rather have RTO mandated and have people resign themselves out of office or fire them for "poor performance" based on attendance. No need for them to pay severance instead of just laying people off.

Good strategy. Bankrupt the company due to your hurt feelings. This is why we no longer make anything in America.

​@@dellahunknown8954It's not surprising to me that if a company doesn't care about its employees, the employee won't care about the company either. Competent management knows this and chooses its policies accordingly.

Nice fairy tale

Sound like a bunch of whiny useless females

@@qtng A paycheck is the only "care" an employer needs to give.

It's already in your paycheck.

Why would we want tech wagies to have nice things?

Why work at all. Just go on welfare.

Their business, their rules. Don't like it? Quit.

@@dellahunknown8954 that’s what all the good employees will do (and have done)

Dont like it quit! A few weeks later "Why cant we get good employees?!

@@dellahunknown8954 Shit take. If it's a desk job, there's no actual reason for said "rules".

@@rakeau If it's a desk job it can be outsourced.

That's because the banks own all the leases and mortgages on all the office buildings. If they encourage work from home, they lose a metric butt load of money if everyone else follows them.

Yeah and they have a star of David as their flag with two blue stripes

They are still pushing the whole green nonsense at the same time. So you don't get to sit in the comfy air-conditioned box like the boomers used to, you get squeezed into the metal container with hundreds of other people and your commute times double.

Not your concern. Do what you are told or get fired.

That’s also why the company I worked for didn’t mandate return to office. All of their office space is rented and when the pandemic came they made big cuts in office space and didn’t increase later.

@@dellahunknown8954 Let's see how far that dick sucking will get you in life.

😂 can’t unsee it now

GOOD MORNING VIETNAM! Or China, India, Pakistan, etc. LOL.

@@dellahunknown8954 How can you be same person that cries when employees say they're not coming to the office and then say these people are gonna be replaced with people from overseas who physically can not come to the office, the cognitive dissonance is real.

Why do boomers always type lol in all caps

Yeah, but no one but you cares. Get back to work.

Companies come and go, but talent is forever.

Is it your company? No? Then not your concern. Get back to work or quit.

Problem is that always the best employees leave first. Incredibly stupid move.

Yep, you could’ve ghostwritten that for me too. I have the exact same set-up, triple screens included. I had to convert a spare bedroom into my office in order to have a physical door to close, otherwise the temptation to work was too easy and that is terrible for mental health. I now split my time 50-50 and for me, it’s a healthy balance. I get to have the social interaction I need; I see the world around me on my commute, and I get some focus time whilst I’m at home. Yes commuting comes at a cost, but a bigger one would be my mental health.

Then just quit. You are easily replaceable.

@@dellahunknown8954 Oh yeah buddy, having a revolving door of turnover is a GREAT idea for software development companies.

@@mechadeka Software development will soon be outsourced to AI. Won't be any need for spoiled, entitled, crybabies.

Good for you. But, how does that benefit your employer?

​@@dellahunknown8954They can save even more than that in office space rent.

@@dellahunknown8954 Why would he give af about his employer?

PRECISELY!