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DELTARUNE Chapter 1: Weird Route (What if?) 

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DISCLAIMER:
This is not real or part of Deltarune Chapter 1, this is fanmade.
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This video is based on the concept that Jummy made for chapter 1 of Deltarune.
Jummy's channel:
/ jummy
Music:
"Devil's Buster" by Metal:
/ @musicmakermetal
"Field of Hopes and Dreams" by MattPixelSpriteMaster :p
/ @mattpixelspritemaster
There might be a follow up video with the changes this would bring to chapter 2 in the future!
0:00 Jevil Battle
10:30 Starting Ch 1 Weird route
13:30 Ch 1 Weird route
30:40 Idk what happened to the audio
33:40 Ch 1 Weird route
57:10 Credits

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@Jummy
@Jummy 2 года назад
YOOOO THIS IS SO GOOD!! You should have seen my face when I saw that you fully coded and/or animated Devil's Buster exactly as described. And the sprite work on the new cutscenes?? Amazing! And that's not to mention your own additions to the route! Here's my live commentary of those additions and more: > That whole sequence starting at 24:30 fits in absolutely perfectly. > 37:38 IS SO GOOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? > 40:10 Nice touch that Jevil's cell is just gone > 41:50 Another nice touch > 42:50 HIDING MUSIC LET'S GOOOO > 43:24 Probably my favorite bit from my original video done justice with brand new Lancer sprites! It truly is on the mouse. > 44:22 You captured the tone I intended for this part perfectly > 46:14 LET'S GOOOO > That dialogue during the King's fight is 👌 > 51:24 An amazingly executed cutcene. To quote myself, "LET'S GOOOO" > 53:46 DEH NEH NEH, BAH, NEH NEH NEH NEHNEHHHHH (except not) > 54:37 spin > Nice details on the chess/checker board and the cards > 56:15 >:D
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
NO BRO. NO WAY YOU ACTUALLY SAW THIS!! WOW you do not know how happy I am that you actually saw this AND liked it!!! I always have been a big fan of your hypothetical or 'what if' stuff, always found it pretty interesting and almost cannon to their respective media, so it is so cool to get recognised by someone like you dude!! (Sorry if this is a bit incomprehensible, I'm just at a loss for words!)
@Jummy
@Jummy 2 года назад
@@JQR. Thank you so much!! You support means so much! And, needless to say, I'm now subscribed with notis ON
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you so much!!
@Batterykitten8
@Batterykitten8 2 года назад
Live Jummy reaction
@diegoizaguirre3452
@diegoizaguirre3452 2 года назад
@@JQR. you got the support the creator, this is official one of the best things ever created, I know no one asked but since it’s a concept and can be improved upon here some of my maybe half baked thoughts on what can be added 1. A whirlwind ax attack and/or a bite/chomp/crunch attack for Susie (they both fit Susie with her axe and jevils esthetic as Susie is going to act more primal and the tornado axe attack is just pleasing for the archetype) 2. Turing a devil into a demon aka Upgrading susie in chapter 2 ( another quest in which you can improve susie design (looking more like a demon) weapon ( darth maul but with axes/ pole-arm glaive/your better choice) and tail ( something with an aura) don’t know how it will be implemented but I feel like It will use the dj guys (this can be ignored because this isn’t really well thought out but the concept you can mix mash all you like)) 3. Susie and noelle would have a lot more friendly relationship shall we say (corruption really loves company, they will be more bold and less closeted about their emotions shall we say (obvious not to explict, the violence says otherwise) 4. We are legion aka a more satisfying conclusion imao (I feel since since Susie is more involved in the corruption she should be more encouraging to embrace the darkside to everyone around her especially noelle so in that final scene it should be a dual attack combining both of their powers, the scenes after ward would have Susie interrupt but would be in a nows not the time to strike mood) 5. This is good ( not sure what else I can think of other than I hope the corruption path will be more chilling and deranged than deltatravellers obliteration route ( holy jevil that one was incredibly brutal). I hope this will be even more incredible than it already is and made into a mod.
@cianeatsgrass
@cianeatsgrass 2 года назад
You somehow turned Susie’s ‘Let’s go back there tomorrow, alright?’ from a wholesome moment to a threat
@Brajxdv
@Brajxdv Год назад
First reply: You're right.
@eshav7438
@eshav7438 Год назад
Second reply I want to run into a different universe from that threat
@EliteTelescopeREAL
@EliteTelescopeREAL Год назад
Third reply. But nobody came.
@GoldenAdrien
@GoldenAdrien Год назад
Fourth reply HEY WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE ALONE, JESUS
@unculturedmanofculture6837
@unculturedmanofculture6837 Год назад
Fifth reply I can't think of a thing to say... $!$? IT!
@grape_protogen
@grape_protogen 2 года назад
Vanilla DR Kris: "I can make her better!" The Modders: "I can make her *SO* much worse."
@sluigi
@sluigi 2 года назад
​@@TheGrammarNazi123 Of course! It's called fiction.
@xboxoneyes7734
@xboxoneyes7734 2 года назад
And that might make kris Dislike us Even more
@tylerwaugaman3662
@tylerwaugaman3662 2 года назад
Sounds like: "Because I can make it quick...or i can make it *SO* much worse" -ellie
@scrunckly1333
@scrunckly1333 2 года назад
the duality of man
@asocksual4910
@asocksual4910 2 года назад
There's so much I utterly adore about this video, but I think one of my favorite parts is how "Let's go back there tomorrow, alright?" is recontextualized. Holy shit.
@natevalleystudios1086
@natevalleystudios1086 Год назад
26:25 the cold and harsh truth of "there's no going back now" from one of your party members who you're using to do this route just hits so hard
@OmegaCrutch
@OmegaCrutch Год назад
Most Coldest moment in Deltarune 🥶
@Merasus
@Merasus Год назад
​@@OmegaCrutchwhat about when noelle casts a spell she dont know
@bepbobbap
@bepbobbap 2 месяца назад
​You could say that really was COLD@@Merasus
@MysticSlime
@MysticSlime 2 года назад
This is so cool!! As many others have said, it looks super real despite some of it being animated, and its cool to see the concept brought to life! Great job, can't imagine how long this must have taken
@MarioYoshi4723
@MarioYoshi4723 2 года назад
Ayyy! What’s up Mystic!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Yooo!! I was not expecting to see you here mystic, thx a lot!, it took me around a month to make!
@Sorta316
@Sorta316 2 года назад
It was ANIMATED???
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@Sorta316 some parts like the cutscenes were, not the whole thing tho, I would literally die
@alessandroscarcella7116
@alessandroscarcella7116 2 года назад
I know this is animated but one of the hathis fell into ralsei's name
@davidholanda1
@davidholanda1 2 года назад
despite the lagging on the gameplay footage, this one is really well done thanks for turning Jummy's concept into a reality
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you!
@minecratftnt
@minecratftnt 2 года назад
I feel like the laggy gameplay gives it a more authentic creepy feel to it...
@plum1796
@plum1796 2 года назад
@@minecratftnt yeah, like the game itself is actively trying to get the player to stop
@EythanLee
@EythanLee 2 года назад
@@plum1796 or just a crappy laptop being used
@laith782
@laith782 2 года назад
bros pc heating up
@butterspike680
@butterspike680 Год назад
56:17 I can't believe a single sprite swap manages to change the entire meaning of that line. Very well thought!
@atlasguytinyproductions55
@atlasguytinyproductions55 2 года назад
I like how Ralsei didn’t reveal his face this time. I commented how we could’ve also used this route as an option for Ralsei keeping their hat on, and it could also be a sign of Ralsei’s insecurity.
@darsterz
@darsterz Год назад
i love how the writing still has that deltarune essence that makes it seem almost official, especially lancer when leaving the shop that was so on point
@Crux_Dev74
@Crux_Dev74 2 года назад
This gave me the same chills as the salt route did, it looks like an actual route we could play in a game. Could anyone make a game of the Salt Route and ch1 weird route (or what I would like to call the “Devil Route”). These 2 videos were talented masterpieces
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank u!, it would be pretty kool if someone made these playable!
@krisspychissp
@krisspychissp 2 года назад
I remember the Og idea video of this. and then it caught on and this happened
@Crux_Dev74
@Crux_Dev74 2 года назад
@@krisspychissp Same
@Jago1288
@Jago1288 2 года назад
@@turingtestingmypatience Well... The RIBBIT mod for ch1 is already something huge. It could be possible to make this route as a mod.
@fastone5874
@fastone5874 2 года назад
now someone can animate chapter 2 weird route when the chapter 1 weird route was done
@peter_ukraine
@peter_ukraine 2 года назад
Can we just appreciate that he added a tiny bit of THE WORLD REVOLVING in the slowed down Rude Buster? Absolute genius! (A clear example of this is at 35:04)
@napoleoncomplex2712
@napoleoncomplex2712 2 года назад
First of all, let me say that this was excellently constructed. This felt like an Undertale genocide route, with the added twist of things falling steadily out of your hands as Susie took control of the situation and Kris lost it. Would you ever consider doing a follow up to show potential points to abort the route? The one thing that doesn't sit right with me is I feel this runs roughshod over Susie's moment with Lancer in the prisons. Susie goes back to being a rampaging bully (worse, a psychotic spree killer) without a hint of reflection or protest, and doesn't even pause to reflect on her promise to Lancer not to kill his father. This reminded me of an idea I had for a chapter 1 'Weird' route. What I think marks this out is it is entirely possible to get it by accident, and so it is possible, just this once, for the scenario to play out as a tragic series of misunderstandings between the Soul, Kris, Susie, Ralsei, and the other Darkners, with it taking until Chapter 2 for a malevolent Soul's intentions to become crystal clear. -As you've done here, complete the chapter violently and have Susie deal the finishing blow to Jevil. At this point, the conversation with Jevil will go quite differently. He'll gleefully praise Susie's strength in particular, and will cryptically ask whether she is aware of a 'sinister heart' that is not her own that guides that strength. Susie, who is completely unaware of our/Kris's Soul, will be both alarmed and angered by this. Before she can finish her retort however, Jevil pours salt in the wound by making allusions to the 'heart's' possible motivations, wondering if it is desperation that drives it or if it is the same as Jevil himself, viewing life as a fleeting game, with lightners and darkners both just being toys to be played with before the end. He gleefully commands the now thoroughly spooked Susie to take him with her, and tells her triumphantly to 'do her strongest'. He warns her however that he doesn't know if *her* heart will be able to take the result. With that, you receive the Devil's Knife (but not the tail) as normal and you'll hear the 'Weird route' jingle play. A discussion not unlike the one that occurs after normal route Spamton will take place. As the group begins to exit Jevil's prison, Susie will stop the party and, visibly disturbed, insist that they discuss what just happened. She asks them directly if they know anything about this 'heart'. -Instead of nodding, force Kris to be silent when they try to answer in the affirmative. Susie will misinterpret their strained silence as an honest denial, commenting that Kris looks even worse than she does, and that they'd better get home soon. As in chapter 2, Ralsei will downplay the events, though he will suggest that the party should be a bit more careful when fighting darkners in the future. When Susie turns to Kris for assurance, you have to manipulate her by saying 'I believe in you.' instead of warning her to 'Be careful'. With that, Susie will perk up a bit and the story continues, though her portrait will still be visibly stressed at the end of the conversation. -Equip the Jevil's knife on Susie and she will remark that she's creeped out by it. This is out of character for the normally fearless Susie, and should put the player on guard that this is now a dangerous weapon. -Fight your way up the tower. You will need to actively hunt down the enemies on each floor as missing any will abort the route. As you defeat enemies and they run away from you, with some added humorous dialogue and with some enemy parties starting to flee rather than chase you on the overworld, Susie will remark that 'this weapon is AWESOME!' and will begin to lower her guard. (This has the added needle of fleeing enemies seeming funny rather than alarming to new players who don't know its significance in Chapter 2. Given that no one has died yet, careless players may still be taking things in their stride, although anyone who has any awareness of bad endings in general will know they are on the wrong path by this point.) -Ralsei will worriedly comment, much like in this video, that the monsters shouldn't be terrified of the Fun Gang, and will remind the party that they are supposed to be being *careful* . When given the option, have Kris egg Susie on instead of reining her in, and you'll hear another weird jingle. (Susie will comment that Kris sounded weirdly upset even as she takes the encouragement to continue her rampage.) Susie will do more damage going forward as she starts to relax and really cut loose with the weapon. -When you encounter Roulx Kaard, Susie will simply smash the puzzle rather than let you solve it. To her, she's just playing, but the sheer violence of the act and the wreckage left in its wake will leave Ralsei visibly frightened, and even the normally stoic Kris will raise their shield and take an involuntary step back. The threat sobers the normally goofy Roulx Kaard up a bit. He will remark that he can't let you reach the king. Susie will laugh at the idea of anyone stopping them, 'right Kris?' -At this point, you can either say 'That was really cool' or 'You're scaring me'. It doesn't matter as at this point, Kris and the Soul have begun to lose control of Susie, and she'll mock Kris and Ralsei for their fear and proceed regardless. Susie has misinterpreted Kris again, dismissing them as a scaredy cat when they're really the only one who understands the true horror of what is going on. (My post was apparently so long that it needs to be split in two)
@napoleoncomplex2712
@napoleoncomplex2712 2 года назад
-Roulx Kaard puts the castle on high alert, and at this point the excrement starts to hit the rotational device. Instead of scattered patrols, wave upon wave of determined guards will attack the player, coming out from surprising directions and with complex patterns. In addition to the Head Hathys and Rudinn Rangers, you'll be attacked from the rear by Bloxers, Rabbicks, and the occasional Rudinn and Hathy as reinforcements come from outside. Even with the added damage, you'll be hard pressed, and as the situation becomes more desperate, Susie will become angrier and will become more and more violent. The damage numbers go up and up, but eagle-eyed players will observe that enemies seem to have more HP (what is actually happening is they are becoming more determined and are enduring more damage before fleeing as they see the party as a true threat to the king and a malevolent force upon the kingdom). -As you reach the throne room and the battle comes to a climax, a wave of scarred Rudinns will arrive. These are Rudinns that have retreated, been healed up by the Head Hathys, and then have come back to attack you again. Once you've driven them off again with some disturbing dialogue that suggests the Rudinns are in a lot of pain, Susie will completely lose her cool. She will yell at the top of her lungs for the Darkners to stop attacking the party, and insist that they're just trying to get home. Ralsei's temper begins to fray as well and he snaps at her that the Darkners believe the Lightners are here to hurt their king, so of course they're becoming more violent. When Susie tries to object, he observes sternly that the party has done nothing to convince the castle guards otherwise. -This is now the point of no return. The player can either creepily say 'Proceed' as in Chapter 2, harshly ask her 'Can you not see yourself?' or else ask Susie what she thinks. This is a trap for the player as Susie is much more willful than Noelle. Instead of trying to force the issue or prodding her firmly into a bout of much needed introspection, meekly ask Susie what she thinks they should do and she'll seal her own fate. Susie goes off on a tirade, saying vengefully that they should just beat down every enemy that crosses their path and open a path to the fountain. Ralsei will begin to shake at this, and Kris will visibly slump, as if defeated and betrayed in the same instant. Susie will coldly tell them to keep going. Despite all of this, she'll look visibly unsettled by their reactions as she insists slightly desperately that they have to be close to the top of the tower. -The party will confront Roulx Kaard at the top of the tower, but Susie simply knocks the crown off of the Round with a single swing of the Jevil's knife, and then angrily threatens to separate his head from his shoulders if he or anyone else tries to stop them from proceeding. Roulx grimly and silently complies, and the howling wind sound will start to play. Proceed to the battle with King. -The dialogue with King both before and during the battle will be a lot more heated. Susie will interrupt his usual 'I'm the bad guy speech' by furiously demanding that they get out of the way. King will point out the party's hypocrisy in violently breaking into the heart of the kingdom, inflicting violence upon its inhabitants, and then expecting to just be peacefully given passage through. He needles the Lightners about their ignorance, questioning whether they even know what the consequences of closing the Dark Fountain, and complaining bitterly about being abandoned by the Lightners only to be trodden on by them again the moment the Darkners re-emerge. He will ignore Ralsei if he tries to convince the king, mocking him as a prince with no followers whose opinion has no bearing on anything, and focusing only on Kris and Susie, who he will attack relentlessly, favouring Susie to the point where it feels more like a duel between two very similar characters than a true boss fight. For all his flaws, King is, well, a king, and he will fight like the top knight of the kingdom in defense of his crown. -When he finally goes down, Susie will walk over to the weakened king and raise the Jevil's knife. However, it becomes clear that her heart isn't really in it, and she quickly lowers her weapon. She'll order Kris and Ralsei to 'come on', and the party will begin to wordlessly walk past the weakened king as the audience breathes a sigh of relief. However, King pretends to be more injured than he actually is. He plays on Ralsei's concern, pretending that he is about to fade away, and Ralsei heals him. -At this point, the cutscene plays out much like normal, with the King disabling the party, Kris desperately protecting Susie with his shield, and then moving to finish the downed Kris off. Susie however is not fully composed due to the strain of the day's events and she misjudges her swing. She kills the king and breaks her promise to Lancer in one poisoned moment. After a moment of pure shock, Susie pushes aside all attempts by Ralsei, Kris, and the player (who can twist the knife in further) and will collapse to her knees near the spot where the King fell. She'll berate herself for not listening and for not being careful, and will angrily yell at Kris for not stopping her earlier. Kris will slump to the floor, and Ralsei will turn away, unable to process his part in causing the disaster. -Lancer now shows up just ahead of an army of Darkners. He'll begin to say that he tried to bar the doors, but they were too... and then he'll either notice the body of his father or else realise that King is missing. Whether the deed is evident or not, Susie's lack of a response tells Lancer everything he needs to know. Enraged, he states that he thought Susie was his friend, and then orders the entire army to attack. -You'll once again be forced to endure wave after wave of Darkners. This time, they won't retreat, and you'll be forced to kill again and again and again. Their attack patterns will be much more ferocious and it starts to feel more like a Genocide route battle, uncompromising almost to the point of being unfair. Ralsei will refuse to do anything other than heal, Susie will occasionally miss her turn, and she'll plead with the Darkners to stop. She'll get more and more upset and both her mental state and her sprite will begin to deteriorate, until eventually she'll start laughing. She'll start attacking without waiting for orders, using up your tension points for Rude Buster and even using Rude Buster when there aren't enough TP available and in the middle of enemy turns. The battle will start to swing in your favour until, laughing like a maniac, the screen goes dark and a ridiculous number of damage markers go up as Susie tears through the remaining Darkners in a rage. By the time the dust (possibly literally) settles, Lancer is dead (although this may be left ambiguous), the screen is caked in red dust, bodies, or even just eerie nothingness. As Susie processes what she has done, she lets out a roar/scream of rage and anguish. -There is a long, long pause as none of the party can bring themselves to say anything. The player has to physically move Kris towards the fountain. There's no prompt for this, which means the player may be left waiting for something to happen until they think to try the controls. As Kris tries to leave, Susie will bitterly say 'Heh... leaving me to rot here, Kris? Or... are you just trying to run away?' -You can either stay silent, in which case Susie will remain motionless, or you can observe that there's no point staying here to die. Susie will only follow you to the fountain (where she'll make a few bitter, impatient remarks) if you choose the latter. If you stay silent, she'll glibly remark that she almost thought she had friends.
@napoleoncomplex2712
@napoleoncomplex2712 2 года назад
(Part 3. Jesus...) -You can approach Ralsei, but he'll just turn away (changing direction if the player tries to approach him from the front) and will just tell you to go and seal the fountain, despairingly commenting that there's 'nothing left, nothing left'. If Susie has rejoined you, she'll offer to stay behind with him. He'll coldly tell her to leave him alone. Susie is so far gone that she'll let out a despairing laugh and chide Ralsei for believing in her in the first place. Ralsei will fall silent, but as the party goes to leave, he will say to Susie that she can still be a hero... that is, if she tries to be. Ralsei's kindness, and the fact that anyone still believes in her even at this late stage, renders Susie speechless. (But this is still chapter 1, and it would be possible to go through the whole game without repeating this dirty episode, just as it is possible to get through Undertale after spoilering the first spoiler by accident.) -Regardless of what path you take, close the first fountain. Regardless of if Susie came with you or not, you'll both wake up in the Light World's unused classroom. As in this video, the pieces you destroyed will be missing. -A few caretaker comments. In the post-game of Chapter 1, Susie will be obviously reluctant to go back to the Dark World. However, she will grasp that something important is happening, and will reluctantly suggest to Kris that they should 'keep an eye out for more dark fountains'. She's too ashamed to say it, but the implication is that she thinks they should work together. -Susie is still not under the Soul's control, as that is her whole schtick so far in Deltarune. However, she will become violent, cynical, and much more open to forceful solutions as she doesn't expect things to end any differently in the first place. It is possible to steer her out of this in later chapters, but it takes careful work, and the initial tone of even a pacifist Chapter 2 run is darker as a result of the events of Chapter 1 hanging over everyone. -Ralsei would likewise be shaken up. However, he would be beholden to the legend and thus would have to work with you, and his part in healing King at the end may push him to accept partial responsibility and thus guilt him into continuing to help the other two heroes. If there's any interest in this, I might follow up with thoughts on the impact on Chapter 2. Anyway, for what started as a passing thought, I spent way too long on this. Hope it was of interest to somebody. :)
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Ok so first off, I will be making another video going over the ways in which you can abort the route as well as some other miscellenious things, (Some chapter 2 changes will also be in the video). Second off, this is a really cool interpretation!! I really enjoyed reading through this, things like Susie's gradual shift in becoming more violent is more natural and explained than in the video or actual regret she feels when enemies start dying as in the normal route she never kills anything rather just beats them up. Third off, I'd love to hear the changes you think chapter 2 would go through as a result of this!
@napoleoncomplex2712
@napoleoncomplex2712 2 года назад
​@@JQR. Thanks for the reply! I'm definitely looking forward to the video. I'll try and get something out for Chapter 2, but I figured I'd better cover the points where you can abort the route in some depth first. Chapter 2 is so big that unpicking all the butterflies will be a project. -When Susie asks Kris if they know anything about the heart after the Jevil battle, let them nod their head. Susie will begin to pick up that there is something else manipulating the party, and while she won't realise the extent to which it controls Kris in this conversation, she'll note that they are afraid of it. She'll observe the need to be careful and will insist with the same tone that a concerned older sibling might that 'when we get back to town, we NEED to talk about this.' This can have plot ramifications and start yet another route if Susie figures out that something is controlling Kris's actions. For example, she could accompany them instead of Ralsei during the route split in Chapter 2 and interrupt any attempt to corrupt Noelle, shutting down the Snowgrave route and unlocking some unique interactions between Susie and Noelle on a normal path. -Saying 'Be careful' instead of 'I believe in you.' will have Susie take the advice to heart. -Regardless of how you do it, Susie will be 'on guard' from this point onward. She won't over-swing, won't destroy Kaard's puzzles, and the route will continue like a normal neutral route until she interrogates you and Kris about the Soul back in town if you clued her in. -Missing any of the monsters on the floors before encountering Kaard will abort the run as Susie won't get fully into her rampage. -Choosing to rein Susie in when Ralsei expresses concern will guilt her into toning things down. She will call the party a couple of buzz-kills, but the urgency of Kris's expression combined with Jevil's ominous warning will cause her to break into sweat and will get her to reluctantly tone things down. She won't smash Roulx Kaard's puzzle and this won't provoke the disastrous torrent of enemies on the upper floors. -When Susie and Ralsei get into their argument at the top of the tower, choosing the 'Proceed' option will stop everyone in their tracks and will thoroughly creep Susie out. Susie is not having fun at this point, and knows just as well as Ralsei that the situation is getting dangerous and people are getting hurt. Nauseated, she'll ask Kris if they're actually enjoying this (probably calling them a freak), and will then pick up from their distress that they aren't, that their words didn't sound natural, and that something is seriously wrong. This again puts Susie on her guard. She'll hurry the party towards the fountain and she won't misjudge her swing against the king. Susie will be very quiet and focused during the battle against King, won't do as much damage with her attacks, and she will again confront Kris after they emerge from the Dark World. -If you instead side fully with Ralsei and ask Susie 'Can you not see yourself?' Susie will be taken aback. After a moment of shock, she'll shamed-facedly remark that 'I really lost control, didn't I?' Ralsei will sternly remind her that the fate of this world depends on her. He will then say more kindly that if she doesn't take that seriously, something really bad could happen, and that he knows Susie will regret that if it does. This prompts Susie to admit that she's scared. 'This doesn't feel like a game anymore.' The route will revert to neutral as Susie will again fight conservatively, and won't misjudge her swing at the king. If you abort the run after the argument in the throne room, Susie will let you replace the Jevil's Knife with another weapon, expressing some degree of relief. '...it's probably for the best.'
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@napoleoncomplex2712 Damn, once again this fits in perfectly with what you have described previously and everyone still feels in character throughout it! On a side note, I find it interesting that some of these aborts would have such an impact later down the line, like Susie coming with you in the cyber city as opposed to Ralsei
@jtx2840
@jtx2840 2 года назад
woah this is awesome! ive always wanted to see an alternate route for chapter 1 since it came out in 2018 and this is a great interpretation of it. the sprite work is really nice and is has that same creepypasta feel as the salt route did. i kinda wish jevil was creepier like this in the actual game. cool video!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Hey thanks!, I definitely do agree that I could've made Jevil more creepier or added more interactions with him looking back at this (kinda like how I did with the salt route) Also I've seen your fanmade ch 3 stuff, it's pretty kool!
@TheDimensionalArtist
@TheDimensionalArtist 2 года назад
aid
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@TheDimensionalArtist (s)
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 года назад
Fun fact: even on the 2018 demo, there was the red mist Snowgrave death animation already in the game's code
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@dylanzlol7293 Yep!, I actually used the 2018 version for that specific reason since the death animation was easier to bring back
@disturbdeddoggo9526
@disturbdeddoggo9526 2 года назад
13:21 Ralsie looks down in his hat instead of clapping, nice touch. 37:45 The way Susie just walks back in line after maliciously Murdering all the guards.
@small_SHOT
@small_SHOT Год назад
“Yknow, just… committin’… crimes.”
@AidenTAKwaCN
@AidenTAKwaCN Год назад
Rals is just like "Hold on guys, gotta take a quick crying break"
@uno_revers
@uno_revers 2 года назад
7:56 I love the way the menu noises are in tune with world revolving
@samugames0
@samugames0 Год назад
lol
@ZphyZphyer
@ZphyZphyer Год назад
Same
@Lil-Nubert
@Lil-Nubert Год назад
Why do people always do that?
@c_sea1n
@c_sea1n Год назад
@@Lil-Nubert its cool i guess
@Cheese_McCheeseMan
@Cheese_McCheeseMan Год назад
20:19 too
@MattPixelSpriteMaster
@MattPixelSpriteMaster Год назад
I can imagine the differences in the next chapter by doing this route! Like Susie's eyes still being hidden, still being sinister but slightly more violent. I wonder what she would say differently in the school at the start during class and after when she talks with Kris. I even wonder how she'd act towards Noelle. Ralsei would maybe still have his hat, or maybe not. I'm not sure. He was more expressful without it. When you transform Castle Town after bringing the stuff from the unused Classroom, I can imagine the music "My Castle Town" but slowed and pitched down a little bit since you have no recruits yet. I wonder if Susie would act slightly different towards Lancer... Idk. And I can even imagine if you do the normal route for Chapter 2, towards the end, maybe Susie will become less aggressive, and probably even show her eyes.. So much possibilities to think about! Can't wait for a part 2 to this, if there ever is one! :)
@JQR.
@JQR. Год назад
I can confirm that some of these ideas are actually being used!! And yes there will be a 2nd part, though it will mostly be going through changes exclusive to ch 2 or aborts in ch1, it's still a long video though, around 30 mins at the time of writing this!
@MattPixelSpriteMaster
@MattPixelSpriteMaster Год назад
@@JQR. oh ok! Sounds good! Thx!
@juanitocastillotrejos84
@juanitocastillotrejos84 Год назад
Imagine this route+SnowGrave
@society1876
@society1876 Год назад
dude if that made him not drop the hat i would 1000% do it ralsei without hat is TERRIFYING HIS FEET ARE JUST EXPOSED AT ALL TIMES
@YourLocalJoyFan810
@YourLocalJoyFan810 Год назад
@@JQR. Would be interesting to see all of that and if snowgrave is different
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 2 года назад
56:18 Who knew the same line could be so terrifying?
@xboxoneyes7734
@xboxoneyes7734 2 года назад
Its like something i said "The same Phrase can either Warm your Heart or give you nightmares,It all depends on the Font choice "
@panwasacz2733
@panwasacz2733 2 года назад
@@xboxoneyes7734 or in this case different sprites
@xboxoneyes7734
@xboxoneyes7734 2 года назад
@@panwasacz2733 yep
@tiriangaming2379
@tiriangaming2379 Год назад
IKR
@thatkarmaguy5356
@thatkarmaguy5356 Год назад
I like how it’s just as arbitrary as Snowgrave, like you *can’t* do it on accident.
@EP1CxEMAN08
@EP1CxEMAN08 2 года назад
Fun Fact: You can press [Z] while Susie's using Rude, Red, or Devils Buster to deal 30 more damage!
@Soloesecutore
@Soloesecutore Год назад
Yea I have read that on the game menu but I always wondered if it worked
@Thatoneguy-su8te
@Thatoneguy-su8te 2 года назад
I like how seam isn’t as shaken up because he still can’t be bothered to give a damn
@theladiescallmesona
@theladiescallmesona Год назад
* I don't give half a shit you barney.
@PrinceLearStan
@PrinceLearStan Год назад
"End of the world? Cool, want some tea?"
@Hollieanaaa
@Hollieanaaa 5 месяцев назад
Such a vibe ​@@PrinceLearStan
@busterwolf8901
@busterwolf8901 2 года назад
11:19 Classic Kris, always making up unsuspicious excuses on the fly 😎
@FlurrysDumpster
@FlurrysDumpster 2 года назад
The animation ralsei does when you obliterate opponents is so sad The dialogue between ralsei and Susie in the checker place feels so real the giant wave of enemies in the castLe was an unexpected touch The music is so good, it feels creepy but also nice to listen to at the same time.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you!!
@funnyeh1298
@funnyeh1298 2 года назад
Loved the way you interpreted the other video! So, this is quite late, but I had more ideas for the weird route. -Susie’s S Action is weird. When you learn it, Susie doesn’t suggest it. The dialogue is instead: Ralsei: Maybe if we all danced together? Susie: And helll no. (Susie never acted before so she doesn’t agree) Susie: I’m not embarrassing myself moments before I get destroyed!! Ralsei: Come on Susie! I know you’d be good at it! Susie: Fine! The battle proceeds as normal, but Susie is idle in the ending jingle. Trying to use S-Action again for the first time will make Susie say this: “Who put you in charge?? I’m not doing that again.” Trying to use it any more will result in “Don’t push your luck.” Trying to use any Act that involves Susie after the Music guys encounter will fail. *Dialogue Changes* -Interacting with the Great Door in chapter 2 says. “You can’t run from what you’ve become.” -Interacting with the Ralsei dummy will say “It has several chips in the wood.” “Only the strongest of Lumberjacks could have done this.” -At the end of chapter one, after kings defeat, C. Round isn’t blocking the door. You can go up to the entrance of the castle, where trying to leave will say “You have better things to do.” If you go in ?????? In the elevator, Jevils prison is open. If you go inside, there’s a note on the floor. It says “It’s been slashed apart, by something. You can make out a few words.” It will always at the beginning say “No escape.” On repeated play throughs, it says. “Trapped forever.” If you’ve done a Pacifist after weird route before, it will say “Locked away.” And finally, if you’ve done the chapter 1 AND chapter 2 weird route before, it says “Never to be seen again.” So, if you meet all the Criteria, it will say: “No escape. Trapped forever. Locked away, Never to be seen again.” (Yes I copied this from my comment on the other video)
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Damn I really like some of these ideas! I might use some if it's ok with you
@funnyeh1298
@funnyeh1298 2 года назад
Completely fine! I'm so happy you saw them :D I might think of some more soon-
@yellowpower3755
@yellowpower3755 2 года назад
Hmm…. So what would the note hypothetically say if it weren’t slashed apart?
@harchosmia
@harchosmia 2 года назад
Devil's Buster: Is stated that it "Obliterates". King: *No.*
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Plot
@somecirclewithsunglasses3994
King has armor, PLOT ARMOR
@T0B3573R
@T0B3573R Год назад
@@JQR. Queen didn’t die, and she was the main antagonist so she’s probably important later and the same is for King.
@Subugugito
@Subugugito 5 месяцев назад
King is as durable as lancer
@user-cp9jk4jm5r
@user-cp9jk4jm5r 5 месяцев назад
King: you cannot kill me, you are BARNEY Susie: >:o, "pulls out knife" time to "obliterate" your ass King: oh shit
@MadotsukiGaming
@MadotsukiGaming Год назад
Chaos King doesn't sound like a boss theme anymore, it's now triumphant music for a king trying to save his kingdom.
@Solesteam
@Solesteam Год назад
26:34 I was expecting Susie to say "They made their choice long ago" quoting Chara's "You made your choice long ago" bit.
@rinyaskyline
@rinyaskyline 2 года назад
Omg an enemy count! "22 LEFT, LEFT!" That's such a cool detail!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Hey thx!, I thought it would be much better than a generic '22 LEFT'
@andrewperkins1544
@andrewperkins1544 2 года назад
Jevil in his cell: yuee hee hee the lightners are murdering everyone everyone
@CarneiroDaNeve
@CarneiroDaNeve 2 года назад
@@andrewperkins1544 Well, he was in Kris' inventory
@andrewperkins1544
@andrewperkins1544 2 года назад
@@CarneiroDaNeve oh crap yeah
@synthetic_creature
@synthetic_creature 2 года назад
@@CarneiroDaNeve well no, he was in susies hands
@Mr_Perlimpinpin
@Mr_Perlimpinpin Год назад
This is really awesome! I hope we can have an alternate snowgrave route where Susie convince Noelle to like battles! In fact having an entire weird "storyline" would be genius.
@sanstheskeleton3279
@sanstheskeleton3279 2 года назад
This looks absolutely amazing!, I love it!, I really like that it's based on that one concept made by Jummy!, and I also really like how you used songs that were made especifically for that concept too!, Amazing job!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you!, this has been one of the things on my list that I've always hoped to do ever since I saw Jummy's concept!
@Gunnetoons
@Gunnetoons Год назад
17:58 at this part you can see the player’s thoughts. “Crap I gotta do the puzzle. Oh nevermind I forgot it’s already open lol”
@JQR.
@JQR. Год назад
DUDE, you just said exactly what I was thinking at that moment!
@spookyskid7544
@spookyskid7544 2 года назад
This weird route would be called “Hellish Route” or “Devil Route” as someone else called it The fact that this started with the Devils Buster is so cool as I think it had a lot of potential wasted in ch1 Definitely would like to see this in the actual game,amazing work you did JQR!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Tysm!
@spiffyavatar3611
@spiffyavatar3611 2 года назад
what do you mean the devils buster had wasted potential? it didn't exist then in the first place
@mrfrog0913
@mrfrog0913 2 года назад
@@spiffyavatar3611 *chapter 1 had wasted potential
@funnig0at
@funnig0at Год назад
@@EdgeLie chapter 2 already has a weird route, did you mean chapter 3?
@funnig0at
@funnig0at Год назад
@@EdgeLie ah, alright.
@BenV1309
@BenV1309 2 года назад
i wonder what consequences of this route will bring to chapter 2 and how it would change if a snowgrave route were made, or if this route could be continued in the next chapter
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
I will be making a part 2 with some changes relating to it!
@allegraanderson3436
@allegraanderson3436 2 года назад
@@JQR. heck yes
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@TheGrammarNazi123 yep I'm also including that!
@HCNimh
@HCNimh 2 года назад
@@JQR. what would change?
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@TheGrammarNazi123 damn another gud detail that ima include!
@frostypop934
@frostypop934 Год назад
20:23 perfect sync
@MarioYoshi4723
@MarioYoshi4723 2 года назад
I knew some talented soul would make Jummy’s concept a reality. “I’m both impressed and disturbed!” -Sheen
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thx!!
@Dan280974
@Dan280974 2 года назад
One day i hope someone makes a fangame for deltarune. based on your choices mattering where you can do this, the salt route and some other choices.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@Dan280974 yeah that would be pretty cool
@TechnoKnight2520
@TechnoKnight2520 Год назад
'I am sickened, but curious.' - Johnny Bravo
@jojogacha974
@jojogacha974 Год назад
@@Dan280974 yea but just changeing the conditions to unlock it to make it a bit more easy
@jellyflavoredwavewaffle5336
@jellyflavoredwavewaffle5336 2 года назад
I need to hear the full version of the new themes, they sound like bangers! But seriously, I can feel the fear radiating from Rudin as he runs away only to realize your right behind him. Standing there menacingly. 24:29
@Blight-eo4yk
@Blight-eo4yk 2 года назад
the themes are field of hopes and dreams weird route and the battle theme is devils buster both can be found on youtube
@jellyflavoredwavewaffle5336
@jellyflavoredwavewaffle5336 2 года назад
@@Blight-eo4yk thanks :D
@rfsmaster
@rfsmaster 2 года назад
For me, a Weird Route for chapter 1 can be done with one easy twist: Let Susie’s anger remain unchanged and have her kill Lancer.
@warmommy5996
@warmommy5996 2 года назад
This is jummy’s concept… I always thought it was a really cool concept I’m glad to see it brought to reality. Damn good work again JQR…can u make this and salt route playable as a mod or as a fan game on game jolt…?
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
I'd love to!, but I'm not really that good of a modder, most of this stuff (Like the cutscenes) were animated, and it would take pretty long to do since I'm still kinda inexperienced. That being said though I'm not completely rulling out the possibility! It would just take rlly long if I ever do decide to make them mods/fangames
@AlmondTheGuy
@AlmondTheGuy 2 года назад
@@JQR. i've never made games before, but if you want to do that, you need a good team and breaks so that you can still keep up with mental and physical health. dont try to do something you dont want to do though. sure you can think about it, but think how stressful it could be if you do it.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@AlmondTheGuy yeah that's definitely the main thing putting me off from making a whole mod, that'd be a lot of dedication for something I don't know if I'd have the commitment to do, thanks for the advice!
@mrfrog0913
@mrfrog0913 2 года назад
@@JQR. you could just make a short fight or an area with already existing enemys I have no idea which would be easier. Because of my 1 coding skill
@TheCyVap
@TheCyVap 2 года назад
@@JQR. I'd be up to try and make it a mod, basing it off the video! I'd just need the music and the special sprites and such! I've got a lot of experience with coding in GameMaker Studio, so it shouldn't be too hard! Might take a bit, but that's to be expected.
@JezElectro13
@JezElectro13 2 года назад
i feel you make Ralsei too scared. he should act suspiciously only HALF as scared and against our choices. Yes, there was this line with "brand new Horrified sprite" but he is TOO horrified.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Maaaaybe a little too scared, sure
@JezElectro13
@JezElectro13 2 года назад
@@JQR. that's ok.
@D4RKRHINO
@D4RKRHINO 2 года назад
One of the most underrated things I’ve seen is Malediction Chapter 1 (while it isn’t exactly a game, it gives off a nice illusion of it) it’s a choose your own adventure type RU-vid video where the choices you make affect what happens. It has multiple endings and it’s amazing. It’s both horrifying and hilarious. I would love to see a video of this… I think it genuinely deserves more attention.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you!!
@DeltaBlazin
@DeltaBlazin 2 года назад
I call this the *Devil's Route.*
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
That's a pretty gud name actually
@DeltaBlazin
@DeltaBlazin 2 года назад
@@JQR. Thanks. Great video.
@iffatmansoor5589
@iffatmansoor5589 2 года назад
That does sound better then devils buster route
@amalgamousgoat6217
@amalgamousgoat6217 2 года назад
Never got into whatever the whole salt route business is, but this concept really caught my attention in Jummy's video. Cool to see it visualized!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you!
@icicleditor
@icicleditor Год назад
You truly did the impossible you fixed the stray pixel in king's arena.
@maxy7k72
@maxy7k72 2 года назад
This makes sense since jevil said tha he wanted to play "a numbers game" with everyone else once he defeated us, so it makes sense he would "help us" after we defeat him by attacking proving that we are violent and strong
@talkalexis
@talkalexis 2 года назад
34:00 That's a cool concept, a gauntlet of enemies that lasts for a lot of time.
@Toprak135
@Toprak135 2 года назад
Hey, thanks for trying to make Jummy’s concept a thing. I really wanted someone to mod it in or whatever. Also the next video should be what changes in Chapter 2 if you do this.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Yeah I always wanted to make smthing on it ever since I saw the video, it was pretty well made! And yeah I do intend to make the next video about some changes in ch 2 along with some other miscellenious things in ch 1 that I didn't show
@TYlolex
@TYlolex 2 года назад
It would be even more cooler if Ralsei was looking scared when Susie used devils buster
@warseeker8122
@warseeker8122 2 года назад
This is amazing! I never thought someone would actually animate this! I mean the some of the sprites were a little jank, especially shop Lancer, and the cutscene movements and audio seem to have speeding issues but overall this is amazing. The fights with devils buster and the hordes of soldiers coming at you was really cool. Well done!
@Strawberry_Cubes
@Strawberry_Cubes 2 года назад
With noelle it feels like she won’t return back to the dark world, but dear god if we taint how Susie feels about the dark world, it being this slaughter ground it would really change up the game
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 года назад
What if, Ch1 Salt route? does Jevil go with you as a party member?
@Emperor_Creeper
@Emperor_Creeper Месяц назад
I've rewatched this like a thousand times and it never gets old, this is really good, and I do really wish that there was a chapter 1 weird route, but I do understand why it might not have been implemented, it probably would go against the main story or something, not a hundred percent sure, and chapter 1 was setting up the idea that your choices don't matter, which is what made the chapter 2 weird route/snowgrave route so good in the first place. Other than that though, it's still fun to speculate on what a chapter 1 weird route would've looked like, hats off to you for animating the original idea, and I love the little things you added into it.
@expired267
@expired267 2 года назад
I think for me what makes this worse is that unlike chapter 2, Ralsei is actually seeing this happen and is devastated.
@PrinceLearStan
@PrinceLearStan Год назад
Yea, I feel sorry for him tbh
@SpacialAssassin
@SpacialAssassin Год назад
11:56 he seems so terrified at this moment, even when quitting the battle he got shocked.
@WolfyRed
@WolfyRed 5 месяцев назад
Where?
@Pixelat1on
@Pixelat1on 2 года назад
the exact day you uploaded this, I re-watched the video explaining this concept, and i’m so glad someone has actually made it. great job with this! (also planning to watch the salt route after this
@mammybates
@mammybates 2 года назад
Same When you do both on one save: S A L T B U S T E R
@Miaspeccer
@Miaspeccer 2 года назад
Why does this video only have 780 likes? you executed Jummy's concept really well in a style that would be indistinguishable from the actual game
@pity_1118
@pity_1118 2 года назад
Oh god...This is really well made!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you!
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 2 года назад
I remember seeing this very same concept somewhere except Susie actually killed lancer in that one scene where she misses him, and she also tears Rouxls Karrd’s face off at one point too.
@somecirclewithsunglasses3994
Getting rid of plot needed characters would, well, ruin the game.
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 Год назад
@@somecirclewithsunglasses3994 Say that about undertale lol. (I still think it would be a downgrade in this scenario though.)
@somecirclewithsunglasses3994
@@cosmicspacething3474 In this case, Deltarune has many chapters, unlike Undertale, which has no chapters.
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 Год назад
@@somecirclewithsunglasses3994 The weird route exists
@titansmashproductions5001
@titansmashproductions5001 Год назад
33:30 This desperate last stand of the entire guard facing you at the Castle Gates says it all
@whojackalm16
@whojackalm16 2 года назад
I always thought the weird route in the first division would be through Ralsie by making everyone fall asleep as if they had fallen into a coma.
@CarneiroDaNeve
@CarneiroDaNeve 2 года назад
That would be cool
@toby-fp6sp
@toby-fp6sp 2 года назад
@@CarneiroDaNeve definitely won't be added in chapter 3
@CarneiroDaNeve
@CarneiroDaNeve 2 года назад
@@toby-fp6sp Ik, chapter 1 won't change
@toby-fp6sp
@toby-fp6sp 2 года назад
@@CarneiroDaNeve or will it...?
@CarneiroDaNeve
@CarneiroDaNeve 2 года назад
@@toby-fp6sp The only thing that I think that'll probably change is the addition enemies hp and mercy percentage, and maybe (it probably won't happen) the addition of storage in chapter 1
@norbivans9939
@norbivans9939 2 года назад
Great video as always! I watched Jummy's video some time ago and I really wanted to see how it would actually look in the game. Really good job, some disturbing vibes like with your salt route video. Keep up the great work and as always stay determined!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thx!, I appreciate it!
@norbivans9939
@norbivans9939 2 года назад
@@JQR. No problem, I'm looking forward to your future videos!
@mrfrog0913
@mrfrog0913 2 года назад
Chapter 2 changes Ofcourse you still have jevils buster as a spell alongside rude buster which now costs 20TP When you enter the dark world Susie will say "As quiet as I expected." Ralsei will tell you to get the surviving darkners When you come back you will only see Lancer he will say "Blue person, where is everyone?" "Its only me an-" (Roulx falls from the sky) "Oh it's you worms!" "I wouldth askth for a evil ruler" "But it seemths like this place already has enough evil..." Lancer continues "And lesser dad." "Where is my dad anyway?" Roulx looks away "I'm sorry but the king, might be - not aroundth..." Ralsei says "The king is in prison under the castle." Roulx looks relived When you talk to the king he will just say "I've lost everything to you..." "Begone!" Susie will try to attack king but Ralsei will push Susie out the way If you talk to the king again he wont say anything You can now Kill cyber world enemys without Snowgrave Instead of Ralsei putting the Werewires into "sleep mode" Susie will use Jevils buster on them. In the fight with the dancing guys Sweet Captin K_K That's their names right? When you dance with them Susie will attack them while they are distracted (you can not decide if Susie does this or not) so they are weakened and you can use rude buster or jevils buster on them to kill them, this is the only way to end the fight since Susie will not learn S-action. At the end of the battle Ralsai thinks (I better help Kris act) So Ralsai still learns R-action Susie will atomaticly attack enemys after this point like in the start of chapter one The music shop is locked as well At the fork in the road Ralsei will say "Mabye I should go with Susie." "To make sure she doesn't hurt anyone." Susie will say "I'd like to see you try!" When you see Susie and Ralsei, Ralsei will be trying to stop Susie from killing enemys Noelle will say "Somthing seems..." "Different about Susie lately" "is it normal?" "Because you seem different as well Kris." "I don't mean that in a bad way but you've changed." At the end of the city where you get back together Ralsei will be terrified and will say "Susie forced me to learn a new spell" "but I don't like it..." Susie will say "You need to get stronger too." "C'mon it's going to be fun." "You can kill enemys now." Ralsei will have life drain as a spell it costs 100TP and deals 10 damage as well as healing himself 1HP With the puppet scarf on it costs 50TP deals 100 damage and heals everyone 15HP In the mansion there will be more enemys if you killed everyone (not including the part with Noelle) before this point. In snowgrave Berdly will be harder and before the fight Noelle will say "Kris, is that another enemy should I freeze it?" Berdly will react normally Noelle will reply "Berdly is that you?" "Kris has been making me stronger, just like they did to Susie" Berdly will be shocked and say "I-I won't let you do this! Kris." "Kris I will stop you for what you did too Susan and Noelle!" Noelle will say "No Berdly run away!" "You'll die!" Then the fight will start When you tell Noelle to do Snowgrave she will say "What do you mean I don't know that spell!" "I said I don't know it!" "Fine then! See what happens when I cast a spell I dont know!" It only takes three turns to convince Noelle because you are stronger. Spamton will say at the start of the fight (the diologe in the fight won't change) "What the [Holy Kungedero] are you doing!" "Kris you can't [ruin darkword] [for half price] especially not when I am" "[[Bigshot]]." "You [delete save file] your old [Dark fountain] I wont [access granted] you do it again." "I have all the [Hyperlink Blocked] I could ever want in my [rapidly growing life]" "I dont need friends" "I dont need [Mike] anymore" "You want to take away my [Hyperlink Blocked] my [Bigshot]!" "I won't let [you for 1% off]." In castle town if you spared everyone (exept the dancing guys ofcourse)it will be filled with cyber shops. If you still attack or kill everyone the town will stay empty and Susie will say "We did a good job Kris." "That was fun." Ralsei will just look disapointed.
@mrfrog0913
@mrfrog0913 2 года назад
Remind me when chapter 3 comes out please so I can edit this to include chapter 3 changes. Snowgrave wont change it a lot I think but the Jevilsbuster route probably would have a lasting effect.
@mrfrog0913
@mrfrog0913 2 года назад
Life drain will kill enemys I forgot to mention that.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Yo this is pretty sick! I could see some of these fitting into Ch2
@tvgg4376
@tvgg4376 Год назад
Incredible
@OmegaCrutch
@OmegaCrutch Год назад
Cool ideas! Btw, Your Roulx’s dialogue and Susie’s Devil buster on the Werewires are in the Chapter 2 video, so congrats on that!
@aceilingfan1737
@aceilingfan1737 2 года назад
I've seen the video by Jummy, and I do have to wonder if you'll be doing a part 2 in the future, perhaps involving the changes to Chapter 2 specifically?
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Yup I'll be doing another part!, it'll go over some changes in chapter 2 as well as some miscellaneous stuff that I didn't show off in ch 1
@aceilingfan1737
@aceilingfan1737 2 года назад
@@JQR. sounds like fun! Can't wait to see how you further expand this already great AU idea, and I'm excited for more from you! That's...code for you just got a sub
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@aceilingfan1737 thank you!!
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 2 года назад
@@aceilingfan1737 Wouldn’t this be considered an AT? (Alternate Timeline)
@aceilingfan1737
@aceilingfan1737 2 года назад
@@cosmicspacething3474 fair point, I typically blend AUs and alt timelines under the same filing, so I don't usually bother separating universe differences from timeline differences anymore-
@jogosdoarthur6847
@jogosdoarthur6847 Год назад
I know this video is kinda old, but I would like to say this video is really good. It has a lot of attention to detail (like the player always aiming the Devil’s Buster at the middle enemy first, so he can choose or the upper one or the lower one after) and the editing is better than the Salt Route video, probably because it’s easier than having to animate an entire new party member, with own attacks and new boss fights, and because the Chapter 1 Weird Route concept is way more detailed than the Salt Route dream resume. Great video, continue with the good work!
@JQR.
@JQR. Год назад
Thanks! There were definitely improvements after the salt route, That was my first big project at that big of a scale and I do intend to go back and revamp it after some time!
@creepstone8621
@creepstone8621 2 года назад
I want this as a mod. It looks way more entertaining than the Genocide route in the Undertale game, where the grinding of exp is a true boredom, except obviously for the two boss fights that we appreciate and enjoyed.
@powerfullpummel6417
@powerfullpummel6417 Год назад
Genocide isn’t supposed to be fun thats the entire point
@chronicbackpain6047
@chronicbackpain6047 Год назад
@@powerfullpummel6417 I'd make the argument of intentional bad game design is still bad game design but considering undertale is specifically a story driven game you have a point.
@powerfullpummel6417
@powerfullpummel6417 Год назад
@@chronicbackpain6047 yeah the game punishing you by wasting your time is a huge deterrent from the run.Thing is you are never pushed by the game to do this run.In a way your making the game boring for yourself by constantly killing everything you see.Yeah you really shouldn’t find enjoyment out of this because what your doing is awful.But what do i know im just a shitty earthbound fan!
@chronicbackpain6047
@chronicbackpain6047 Год назад
@@powerfullpummel6417 What about Toriel and Undyne ? Undyne keeps a unprepared player from moving and dialog options are useless and Toriels dialog resets if she's hit once . I think alot of us have a sort of bias that we don't realize some people without the information we have are gonna have a hard time figuring out certain mechanics, you say it doesn't push you to genocide- Which is true, at no point does it force you to grind and kill monsters till you're a certain level, but it certainly puts up roadblocks to force a Neutral Route for the Player .
@powerfullpummel6417
@powerfullpummel6417 Год назад
@@chronicbackpain6047 I never said anything was wrong with a neutral route infact thats my favorite route in undertale I hate replaying pacifist and genocide because it locks you in a boring monotonous cycle.I think that accidentally killing a character shows the player best on how this world works so they can learn how to do pacifist.Obviously it’s impossible now for anyone to enjoy undertale 100% blind due to the games core mechanics being spoiled for everyone and their mother. Edit:Also you arent ever forced to do genocide at no level do you have to grind and kill monsters the option to spare is available all the way to before you “fight” mettaton neo the game always gives a option to back out and leave the run.
@Artkidlikesgames
@Artkidlikesgames 2 года назад
Dude this is so creative! You inspired me to "make" something for deltarune!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
I'm glad I did!
@glam4663
@glam4663 2 года назад
This is such a good concept. This could make it so that chapter 2's wierd route starts alot earlier.
@redactedG7
@redactedG7 2 года назад
saw this on a concept, thanks for the recreation!
@OmegaCrutch
@OmegaCrutch Год назад
Awesome and dreadful. Jevil can truly be evil. Like the saying goes, give an inch and Jevil and Susie can go the mile. You turned jummy’s original concept real and that is very epic of you. The shorter length helps (when compared to Salt Route)and the narrative and gameplay fit hand in hand. It’s easier to follow. The music used is sooo good and even the slowed down Scarlet Forest is cool too, and this is for your videos in general too, Salt Route had great pieces. For this route, you nailed it on all the dialogue: Seam is so darn sneaky and ominous (even smiling when in plush form, bruh seam), Lancer is Lancer, King’s beginning speech and his other changed text really expresses his hate and vindication and enhances his lines even more, and Susie is just how I like her… scary and brutish. The dialogue is very much like it was meant to be in the game. Ralsei… he must be so disappointed, the new portraits you made for him and even his overworld behavior really convey how wrought he becomes. Personal favorites are when he looks at the screen(and at us) with his glasses curved down at 25:22 before the scarlet forest argument and when he talks to king during the fight, his different face and final text box shows how he knows talking won’t work. (Also keeps his hat on, yesss) Jevil’s disembodied laughter is spooky and his face appearing after “the fields go silent” to laugh does send shivers and brews more dread which EXPLODES at the army ambush which made my jaw drop the first time I watched. He is a highlight. The “22 LEFT, LEFT” is great but more can be done with Jevil being a part of the narration and make him more unnerving… and fun to listen to. Some things I’ve thought of would be unique battle flavor text in which Jevil talks about a certain enemy that is present and would be at random. An example with Hathy could be: *LET US SINK OUR TEETH, HATHY WAS ALWAYS SO SWEET, SWEET. Another example could be when during the 15 enemy wave, if you don’t use Devil’s buster and the wave repeats, Jevil basically tells us to use the move to progress: *UEE HEE, ALL THE KING’S HORSES ALL THE KING’S MEN, THEY WON’T STOP UNTIL THEY’RE ALL DEAD! These examples may not work for Chapter 2, Jevil’s “narration” can probably just be really subtle like having some normal flavor text have repeats at the end sometimes… except for Spamton Jevil definitely has something to say to him lol. This is great concept, and I love the “How to ___” presentation at the beginning too. Excellent work!
@JQR.
@JQR. Год назад
Oh dang thanks a bunch! Ever since I saw Jummy's concept I (along with a bunch of other people) loved it so I wanted to try my hand at it! I wanted to keep Jummy's whole presentation thing as if this was a guide so I did the how to ___ at the start to mirror that, I'm glad you noticed Ralsei's face sprites, Jummy put some emphasis on him being pretty distraut throughout this so I tried to the same! The cutscene at the chess board was kinda made up since nothing much eventful happens between the walk through the fields to the Castle (aside from hunting enemies) so I tried split it up with something eventful in the middle I definitely agree with your criticisms about Jevil, he was pretty underutilised here all things considered, I knew that too but I guess I just didn't know how to expand on it, you've defo got some good ideas for him that's for sure!
@bottleofsyrup9916
@bottleofsyrup9916 2 года назад
this needs to blow up this is great
@cansytgames6957
@cansytgames6957 2 года назад
WHY DOES *NO ONE* TALK ABOUT THE SYNC AT 20:24????? IT'S PERFECT Edit: Thanks Cypher S, 7:56 is also amazing
@cymogus
@cymogus Год назад
7:56
@cansytgames6957
@cansytgames6957 Год назад
@@cymogus That is beautiful too i shall add that
@DenFarligeBjorn
@DenFarligeBjorn 10 месяцев назад
Nobody gonna talk about Susie standing on the stray pixel during king fight?
@kobeysstuff6917
@kobeysstuff6917 Год назад
To be honest I don't think Susie would act like this she did beat up some darkners in canon deltarune but you have to remember she only beat them up she didn't full on kill them I don't think she would do something like that I know this is a au but am just saying if there was a weird route in chapter 1 I don't think it would play out like this.
@PancakeSplit
@PancakeSplit Год назад
devil's knife/jevil is supposed to be controlling susie's will so...
@user-ff6eg3jy4k
@user-ff6eg3jy4k 2 года назад
Susie is so strong that she literally tear enemies apart.
@owengautreau1233
@owengautreau1233 2 года назад
I love how jevil becomes the devil on susies shoulder. Whispering to her and encouraging her to keep going as well as giving her the power she needs to be the terminator she wants to be
@user-je8jf2hu6c
@user-je8jf2hu6c Месяц назад
Jevil counting the number left is just such an eerie detail, it’s like he’s excited about it. By taking this route you’re essentially lowering yourself to his level, so in a way he becomes your friend.
@fluffcake
@fluffcake 2 года назад
This was crafted amazingly and really unsettling. It's like Salt Route and I can't wait to see more.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thank you!
@Shadedsins
@Shadedsins 2 года назад
A moment of silence for the people who thought this was real and tried it 😔
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Yeah I shoulda really put a disclaimer at the start of this 😬
@its-haz_
@its-haz_ 2 года назад
rest in peace frames
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Rest in pepperonis
@JezElectro13
@JezElectro13 10 месяцев назад
I love how Kris changes "We need to get stronger" and adds "To Beat The KING!". Also you can see Exclamation Mark, which in Snowgrave was in options what aborts the run. Edit: I assume Kris did it because it aborts evil route, has exclamation point, and has a bit of a delay before it appears.
@Xx__xX-bn7ch
@Xx__xX-bn7ch 10 месяцев назад
I like how you made it so the music slows down and becomes more creepy like in chapter 2 and tells you how much more you need to kill like in undertale
@sansthelazybone
@sansthelazybone 2 года назад
* don't worry, i'll kindly ask for kris' location later and then come knockin' at their door. * and then i'll... * ... * ...tell a *ton* of knock-knock jokes. * you could even say that it involves a skele-... * -what? didja expect me to actually beat 'em up? * i stopped caring about going against people like that long ago.
@anmuuuuuu7312
@anmuuuuuu7312 2 года назад
I was looking forward to a new deltarune concept of yours ! What program do you use to make these ?
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Ok so: - I record my gameplay using OBS - Mod Deltarune using the undertale mod tool - draw over the recording, or animate cutscenes using aesprite - Edit everything together and add any extra sounds using Hitfilm Hope I explained it well!
@anmuuuuuu7312
@anmuuuuuu7312 2 года назад
@@JQR. thank you so much !
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@anmuuuuuu7312 no probs!
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
@@TheGrammarNazi123 oh rlly?!, ight guess I'll try it next time
@TheSpleefist
@TheSpleefist Год назад
"Let's go back there tomorrow, alright?" Susie said, calmly.
@just.someperson
@just.someperson Год назад
Before checking the description I thought this was real- seriously, this looks AMAZING!!
@JQR.
@JQR. Год назад
Damn I don't know what to say! It's a bit weird and kinda flattering that people can mistake this as real, thanks!
@smellslikesushie2368
@smellslikesushie2368 2 года назад
37:39 that´s my favorite part
@AbandonedHub2
@AbandonedHub2 2 года назад
These birds are *pissing* me off I'm the original *starwalker*
@lebonk.9801
@lebonk.9801 Год назад
Every time an enemy gets hit with DEVILS BUSTER: “Mr king, I don’t feel so good..”
@gamingguy918
@gamingguy918 10 месяцев назад
I really like this concept, hope something like it can be added in the future!
@kitsofthekats7040
@kitsofthekats7040 Год назад
I love the was Ralsei actually seems sad that were killing all these enemies, with a little head bow in the end of them.
@dubsa8342
@dubsa8342 2 года назад
I'd love to see a part 2 on how this would affect Chapter 2.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Then you'd be happy to hear that I will be doing a second video going over some things that would change in chapter 2!
@diamondmario64
@diamondmario64 Год назад
you have my applause, this is phenomenal. it really feels like it would belong as a weird route in chapter 1!
@JQR.
@JQR. Год назад
Thank you!
@helo6824
@helo6824 Год назад
It's like bending all the cards in a deck and ripping them apart. That's what I tell myself to not get too traumatized like in the salt route, geez man, I literally can't look at Spamton the same way again.
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement Год назад
Gonna be honest, never really liked this idea too much on paper. It made sense, it was neat, but it felt like it went against the point of Susie's character in that she can't be controlled, as well as just feeling a bit too much like a creepypasta in general. After all, it feels like there's a specific reason Toby never added a weird route to Chapter 1. However, I think showed the potential something like this has, just how destructive abusing Susie's violent tendencies could be. 9:54 Hah, "You sure Kris?" even Susie's a bit worried now. 10:55 Oh neat you can attack both, and they fade away to red. 11:06 And of course Ralsei's worried, liked that scared sprite. 11:33 Weird how Ralsei just accepts it. And Jevil's laugh in the jingle, nice. 13:48 Ofc slowed music. Ooo and a Rude Buster remix, with a bit of The World Revolving added in? 19:16 Ooo Seam knows, but doesn't care. 24:33 Enemies running away from us now. 25:19 Ralsei even brings it up, but Susie's too far gone to give in. 26:19 Goddamn- Susie taking away our choices again now. We're set on the weird route. 26:54 Ey and the party descriptions change now too. Follows your command... 29:40 Abandoned bakesale. Guess we can steal lol. 33:30 Oh hi Jevil. 33:43 Woah! Huge crowd to deal with. 37:41 Damn Susie's going ham. 42:44 Locked out from the party RIP. 43:22 YOOO LANCER SHOP! :D And he just sells everything for free. xD 44:00 Oh goodness. 44:22 :( Lancer cares... 45:51 Yeeeaaaah Spade King's gonna be pissed. 46:22 Heck yeah Susie villain speech. 47:06 Oh wow only Ralsei can try to talk now. And of course, it's futile. 51:18 Yeah Susie ain't falling for that crap this time. 51:40 Woah Ralsei with the last minute save. 54:00 That's creepy just with the footsteps, and Susie still alseep! 54:36 Lol Kris poking her awake. And of course, her eyes are still hidden now. 56:09 And still intimidating as ever-
@yellowpower3755
@yellowpower3755 Год назад
I think it’s less controlling her and more so encouraging her already being violent even further. She doesn’t even realize what’s happening…
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement Год назад
@@yellowpower3755 Yes that's the feeling that I got. Instead of manipulating her you're just giving her what she wants.
@marxiplier4322
@marxiplier4322 2 года назад
Hey I remember watching the original video. Kinda a shame we didn’t get to see the alternate ending to Spamton NEO, but this is great nonetheless.
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
I'll be making a second video going over some changes in ch 2, that will be one of the things included!
@PrinceLearStan
@PrinceLearStan Год назад
This is an absolutely amazing adaptation of Jummy's weird route! 10/10! But honestly, did anyone else feel bad for Ralsei? He didn't want to be there, he didn't want Susie to 'obliterate' those enemies and he genuinely tried to convince Susie (and kinda Kris) to stop. The portraits for him looks amazing and the little detail of him looking down after you finish a battle was also a nice touch! Out of everyone, I felt especially sorry for him, he literally did nothing wrong Then again he's my favourite character soooo
@siuknh
@siuknh Год назад
33:31 i love how Susie's health become more purple like Jevil's color.
@Blight-eo4yk
@Blight-eo4yk 2 года назад
YES SIRRRRR THIS IS AWESOME
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 года назад
Thx!
@TrulyNotYoshikageKira
@TrulyNotYoshikageKira 2 года назад
I would to see a battle with Jevil at Dark Fountain. Make it please.
@robertwyatt3912
@robertwyatt3912 Год назад
I like how you actually made alt themes like in chapter 2, instead of just slowing down the music tracks.
@kingstonlovely7404
@kingstonlovely7404 6 месяцев назад
I like how almost every battle, you choose the attacks on beat, even checking to do it too
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