Demagnetizing CDs?!

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A few weeks ago I shaved some CDs, now let's demagnetize one.
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@BriBCG 2 года назад

They should have added a rewind feature to this. Demagnetize and rewind all in one convenient device!

@Mikexception 2 года назад

And separate device - magnetization detector for those who sometime are not capable to recognize that problem

@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials 2 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@nate_d376 2 года назад

It would spin it backwards, right?

@JamesTK 2 года назад

Yeah I've got a pile of CD's that I'd love to rewind 🤪

@drworm5007 2 года назад

Stupid people I can't believe how dumb you are! You don't need to rewind a CD!! IDIOTS!!! Turn it over and play the other side then it will be back at start. Gosh!

@SubsonicNoise 2 года назад

I‘m an audio engineer - Audiophiles are basically the laughing stock of our field. Working with them can be annoying, but you can trick them really easily - if they bring up a non existing issue with your mix for example, you twist some knobs on machines that aren‘t connected, give them some verbose explanation of what that did and play them the same mix again - they will, without fail, agree that it sounds much better 😁

@SubsonicNoise 2 года назад

It helps when you mention how expensive the machine you twisted the knob of was!

@llaeeZ 2 года назад

IMO there are two kinds of audiophiles. The ones that you talk about, the laughing stock of the industry, and ones like me that are much more in line with the audio engineering way of thinking.

@SubsonicNoise 2 года назад

@@llaeeZ Yeah, tho the latter usually are embarassed to call themselves audiophile because of the former :p Like, I‘d probs qualify as the latter but I cringe if someone calls me that

@SubsonicNoise 2 года назад

@@feralfeline6137 The problem is these types are kind of like conspiracy theorists - the base idea is alright (questioning your government / caring about sound) but all the nonsense they delve into completely erases any possible good that base idea could have had :p

@llaeeZ 2 года назад

@@SubsonicNoise the 'budget audiophile' subreddit is a good one. There isnt enough money for bullshit snake oil. If someone asks for recommendations on cheap desktop speakers 9/10 answers are likely going to be studio monitors.

@hvxcolors396 2 года назад

You just demonstrated it works: the CD was fully demagnetized after using that device. This just reminded me of throwing some more elephant powder on my balcony. In all the years I used it, never got an elephant on my balcony. Such a great product!

@olmostgudinaf8100 2 года назад

I know, right? It worked with my volcano insurance, too!

@LWolf12 2 года назад

Don't forget to hang up some wolf's bane. I've been using it and I've never had a werewolf problem. It works perfectly.

@michealmccann 2 года назад

🤣, same with my clown killer dust, i sprinkled it on the threshold of my property years ago, ang guess what!, no clown killers ever come on my property, what a great product.

@kitsunekaze93 2 года назад

@@LWolf12 i tried hanging garlic garlands to ward off vampires, but my neighbour keeps stealing the cloves to make garlic sauce

@LWolf12 2 года назад

@@kitsunekaze93 I'd keep an eye on em, probably a vampire sympathizer. Like an IRS agent. 👀

@TheCrippledWerewolf 2 года назад

The genious dry humor of putting 3 high-powered magnets on a CD called Ultramagnetic is why I have been subscribed to this channel for several years now.

@MetalFan10101 2 года назад

Thats pretty wet as humour goes

@univon4892 2 года назад

@@MetalFan10101 Yeah ong

@niagaramike528 2 года назад

I'm embarrassed that I didn't catch the group name. :)

@whyyoulidl 2 года назад

Ah, Ultramagnetic MC's - first heard these lot on Mike Allen's Capital Radio show back in the 80's...

@ccricers 2 года назад

The test is flawed. The MCs are far too magnetic and you can't take that from them.

@aDifferentJT 2 года назад

The funniest thing to me is when they suggested that Aluminium being a “weak magnetic material” meant that it was particularly susceptible to magnetic fields, using weak in the exact opposite way.

@RaineStudio 2 года назад

Just as insulators are particularly susceptible to electric fields!

@smoguli 2 года назад

It's an homeopathic kind of magnetism...

@anteshell 2 года назад

@@RaineStudioInsulator materials do not insulate electrical field. They insulate electric current. Two entirely different things. In fact, there would not be insulator materials without them being "susceptible to electric fields" because that is the force that keeps the molecules together.

@louistournas120 2 года назад

Aluminium, like most materials, is probably weakly diamagnetic. This means that if you pass a magnetic field through it, a weak magnetic field is generated in the opposite direction and the aluminium is pushed away. This is a very weak effect. Bismuth is far more diamagnetic and water is also slightly diamagnetic. Anyway, once you remove the external field, diamagnetic materials no longer produce their own field.

@mandi8345 2 года назад

@@louistournas120 Yep, pretty much. If you drop a magnet down a tube of kitchen aluminum foil, the eddy currents induced will also create a magnetic field that will push back against the magnet slowing its fall. Except thats pretty much all to do with conductive metals, and the magnetic field is a by product of the electrical action, so has nothing to do with the magnetic properties of the metal (other than not attracting the magnet in the first place like those damn cheap steel broom sticks...). On the plus side, with that device (I might have missed it, but they're called degaussers, and can be used too blank VHS, HDD, and credit cards(or any mag stripe card)) one could demagnetize a whole hand full of screwdriver bits at once!

@unbiased1 2 года назад

5:45 I'm a little surprised you didn't consider the possibility that your old CD player couldn't read the disc simply because it was "heavily magnetized" 😁

@wirenutt57 2 года назад

I just got an idea for a CD player laser demagnetizer! Surely, it would be an audiophilic (new word?) complement to the CD demagnetizer. You don't want to demag your CD then play it in a magnetized player!

@markfergerson2145 2 года назад

@@wirenutt57 You can't patent it now that you've revealed the concept in public but I bet you could still sell thousands of them. Just a blank CD with a bunch of rare earth magnets embedded in it with alternating polarity. Won't grab the metal parts of the player and seize it up at all...

@a500 2 года назад

I must confess I love a bit of audiophile snake oil. Always fascinating, in particular the guff they makeup to try to convince. My favourite to this date is the gold plated TOSLINK cable.

@Haydos 2 года назад

It's now a running joke

@scorch527 2 года назад

I love the word guff, definitely gonna use that in daily life from now on

@Clarence_13x 2 года назад

Lol, I worked at a RadioShack concept store literally filled with stuff like that. Lol, gold plated optical cables.

@BriBCG 2 года назад

It's even more amusing when you consider that if you were to fully plate a toslink connector it would cease to function.

@kelvin1316 2 года назад

But the gold plated TOSLINKs are useful, they reduce the interferometric rebounce of the internal refraction index meaning the data is less effected by the inversion matrix cause by the negative ion cascade! (I may have watched too much Star Trek Next Gen as a kid...)

@TheRetroEngine Год назад

The RD-1 is basically it's region. It can only demagnetise Japanese magnetic fields.

@baxter22071990 10 месяцев назад

So he nweds to redo it with a jpop cd? 😅

@fearlessfreep 2 года назад

"As it is it turns out I can talk about things longer than I imagine I can." That is the essence of Techmoan.

@thexboxfurry745 Год назад

Hw could pick up any random electrical device and talk about it for an hour, and I would still listen

@ddanielmiester Месяц назад

"techmoan talked briefly" one of the biggest lies ever told.

@PatrickRosenbalm 2 года назад

What won't an audiophile buy? A hearing test.

@WH250398 2 года назад

OOF

@bitterlemonboy 2 года назад

Everytime I see an audiophile I want to rip both of their ears off so all of their expensive speakers become useless

@The_Original_Cujo 2 года назад

That's because most clinics don't have test equipment fitted with gold plated connectors, audiophile grade capacitors built in a 100% oxygen free environment and headphones with their own power supply and hand crafted valves. So they'd be no point, it just won't have the same sound quality as the hifi they own and their ears will reject the sound, giving a clearly false reading of hearing deterioration.

@Thermalions 2 года назад

@@The_Original_Cujo Bit of a shame the 100% oxygen free listening environment option didn't catch on amongst audiophiles.

@hob991 2 года назад

Speak up I can't hear you!!!

@Crazyfistish 2 года назад

“As it turns out, I can talk about things for longer than I imagine I can.” I love your dry delivery on such hilarious things.

@wirenutt57 2 года назад

This is why I love the British sense of humor. So much subtler that the humor on this side of the Atlantic. A little tickle instead of a jab in the ribs.

@sergioricardoarjonamarrufo4946 2 года назад

"I just don't see the attraction". Epic line. Thanks !😊

@Ugly_German_Truths 2 года назад

I liked his other sentence better. "playing the CD back perfectly every single time". Remember why he had to use the HD VMD player? His CD player FAILED to play back a CD ;)

@venson7100 2 года назад

I love how he subtly roasted gold plated optical cables as well 😂

@rockerseven Год назад

I mean I understand the need for gold plated cables, not for audio quality, but for anti-corrosion. And I do understand the need for metal optical cable tips so they are harder to accidentally snap than plastic ones. But yeah, since optical is light I don't know why anyone would buy gold plated optical cables lol.

@JathraDH Год назад

@@rockerseven I mean if I had the choice between gold plated optical cables and non gold plated ones and they were basically the same price, id buy the gold plated ones. They look nicer. Aesthetics are still a major part of buyer choice. It's very much a "high quality cables have gold plated ends" consumer bias but also a aesthetic one at the end of the day. I would imagine its far more of a "if we don't have gold plated tips we appear cheap" thing however. Marketing rarely relies on the actual quality of the product, only the perceived value to the mass market.

@_--_--_ Год назад

@@rockerseven Yeah especially in very humid environments. I had several cheap HDMI and similar cables in a drawer for some years, half of them the contacts completely rusted away. When I buy cables now (especially stuff like HDMI where the contacts are tiny) id rather spend an extra $1-2 for gold plated stuff so that it lasts for more than a couple years if its just lying around somewhere not plugged in. To be fair there are plastic caps that mitigate this issue, but most cables dont come with them, ordering them seperately is more expensive than just buying the gold plated stuff and last but not least youll loose them anyway.

@kimgkomg 8 месяцев назад

It looks cool

@tyttuut 4 месяца назад

@@_--_--_ are your drawers full of salt water?

@syrophenikan 2 года назад

“Gold plated optical cables.” I see what you did there. Good one!

@PerMejdal 2 года назад

4:15

@johnseagram2318 2 года назад

I laughed at that... and after a quick search found they exist! (Although it does seem to be just the connectors and not the whole cable)

@johncarolin51 2 года назад

That line absolutely killed me. This whole genre of video is great.

@rich1051414 2 года назад

@@johnseagram2318 And they are electrically isolated(Which is great, it's why optical still exists today). The only argument would be to make the cable more durable while also not damaging the anti-corrosion layer on the port you plug into. Absolutely zero sonic improvements, though.

@TheTetrapod 2 года назад

@@rich1051414 Ah yes, the notably durable gold...

@davegesell5470 2 года назад

Nicely done. More Snake Oil for Audiophiles. I've long suspected that audiophiles enjoy listening to their equipment far more than they enjoy listening to music.

@Badonicus 2 года назад

You're not an audiophile if you're listening to CDs.

@Jako1987 2 года назад

Real audiophiles listen only live performances in the studio without any electronic alternations /s

@davegesell5470 2 года назад

@@Badonicus The people that spent $5000++++ on separate CD transports and DACs would very much beg to differ.

@pascalbruyere7108 2 года назад

@@Badonicus I will admit that on average, my vinyls give me more pleasure than my CDs but it might be a learned thing, nostalgia, habit, etc. Or that I don’t have a good enough CD player… 😉

@DejanTesic 2 года назад

@@Badonicus Oofff...

@abborne1 2 года назад

CD demagnetizer, CD chamferer, gold-plated optical cable, HD VMD player -- I love how you took every opportunity to turn this into a hall of shame highlight reel!

@nobodynoone2500 2 года назад

There is a whoile industry devoted to this kind of scam, its called 'Audiophile".

@turokforever007 2 года назад

The mega rich paid for it all but everyone else called out the BS.

@Zullfix 2 года назад

for the record, just about every gold plated cable is bs. They always plate the shell in gold but never the contacts.

@crescentfresh8001 Год назад

Best audiophile device I've found to this day is good old fashioned THC. Make your 1998-era MP3s over cheap earbuds sound like a concert hall! Even has a built-in visualizer sometimes.

@esprit101 Год назад

Yeah, I heard from... other people... that they suddenly found trance music irresistible, despite not liking that genre at all while sober.

@kakarotox Год назад

Can I get this on ebay?

@crescentfresh8001 Год назад

@@kakarotox It'd be easier to find a dealer or go to a dispensary for it, but I'm sure someone's secretly selling it on eBay.

@solenoidnull9542 Год назад

@@crescentfresh8001 Totally not Oregano

@AsmodeusMictian Год назад

This took me ENTIRELY too long to pick up on. For whatever reason I read THC but my brain processed it into THX and I heard that weird 'test sound' that usually came with the logo. Then I read the comment again. Very well played :'D

@Haydos 2 года назад

Please do more audiophile stuff. I love seeing it.

@Uberhood 2 года назад

Agreed, please sell us more snake oil Mat ;-)

@AlpineTheHusky 2 года назад

Please do less audiophile stuff, I hurts seeing it.

@KatouMegumiosu 2 года назад

You meant to say "more snake oil expose"

@Haydos 2 года назад

@@AlpineTheHusky yes that's why i love seeing it 😂

@Haydos 2 года назад

@@KatouMegumiosu yeah but it's still audiophile stuff. I also like non snake oil stuff

@joechisten7176 2 года назад

I'm loving this new "junk audiophile tech" series

@stevesretroloft 2 года назад

It's the sort of product my Hifi enthusiast cousin would've owned and swore blind he could tell the difference it makes. He once boasted about being able to hear the drummer picking up his sticks on a CD with his setup, my brother with his cheap sharp hifi put the same CD on and could hear it as well.

@ArlenMoulton2 2 года назад

I can hear John Lennon shout "WOAHHHH, F***ING HELL!" in the background of Hey Jude on my HiFi... I can also hear it on a £5 portable FM radio, it's all about what you're listening for.

@eddyrocks 2 года назад

@@ArlenMoulton2 can also hear it from a compressed Spotify stream. Totally agree.

@blau8lichtneu606 Год назад

This contraption reminds me suspiciously a CD rewinder...

@realvanman1 2 года назад

I’m surprised you found that much inside the device. It would function equally well at fooling the sucker with a resistor, diode, capacitor, and the push button and led.

@TheAdatto 2 года назад

Yeah seeing the coil that big was impressive. Still useless.

@xaeon 2 года назад

With the electronics present, all claims made by the manufacturer are either subjective and/or highly conditional. It would be easy for them to claim in this video that either his disk simply lacked any of the ferromagnetic impurities they claimed, or that his player was simply not one that could be affected by the disk's level of magnetization. As long as the device does indeed attempt to demagnetize objects, then it's not technically a crime.

@RaineStudio 2 года назад

@@TheAdatto If it was even copper. Could have been spray painted on top!

@YourAliasIsNotAvailable 2 года назад

@@xaeon So if I at least TRY to be a heart surgeon there is no harm done and it's not a crime? I doubt that.

@nihonam 2 года назад

what a waste of copper

@rickszabo4312 2 года назад

I bet if you purchased the $800 power supply and mounted the unit on spikes and sprayed the disc with an audiophile degaussing fluid, you would have noticed a slight increase in depth of sibilance on Adel's 4th track on her debut album.

@travis1240 2 года назад

You need speaker cables made from pure silver and installed in the correct direction in order to pick that up.

@gdp3rd 2 года назад

@@travis1240 Silver tarnishes; you need rhodium-plated platinum wires.

@demef758 2 года назад

When I incinerated Adel's debut album, miraculously all of my other CDs improved in quality in immeasurable ways...

@jobsjobbed5125 2 года назад

Must’ve missed Adels first 3 releases. He’s Adele’s brother right?

@michaelthomas3646 2 года назад

wonder what they will come up with next? a sulphuric acid de-greaser for discs?

@jimbo573 2 года назад

I adore your choice of the Ultramagnetic MCs for the test.

@Tom2404 2 года назад

It's just gonna be silent

@VinylBlair 2 года назад

A really kool (Keith) idea…!

@robinsutcliffe-video_art 2 года назад

such a great album.

@thegrimyeaper 2 года назад

That's why there was no difference, it's still going to be magnetic unless he scratches out the band name.

@DeGuerre 2 года назад

It's possible that Monster Magnet might be even more magnetic.

@agentmith Год назад

I would have liked to see a magnetic field viewer passed over the disc, just to show that it can’t be magnetized

@pulsefel9210 Год назад

anything can be magnetized with enough effort. given the output of a nuclear reactor you could magnetize a human.

@ethzero Год назад

Damn. Just deleted my redundant comment 😀. But yes, would love to empirically prove this.

@ethzero Год назад

And also put the magnet field viewer on the unit itself!

@techadmirer6475 Год назад

same here

@DoubleMonoLR Год назад

It's irrelevant anyway though, it wouldn't make any difference. Heck a number of CD players used magnetic clamps to hold them in place while playing anyway, including pc drives which could read at up to 52x with no errors...

@WorksOnMyComputer 2 года назад

My first thoughts on seeing the thumbnail. "This should be good. Today I am going to learn how to demagnetise plastic." I wasn't disappointed. Thanks Techmoan for finding these weird and wonderful gadgets. Looking forward to the series on how to save electricity with a gizmo in your powerpoint.

@combatking0 2 года назад

Once you've done shaving the outer edge, colouring it with a marker and demagnetizing, it's important to clean the dust from your CDs by using a steel brush in gentle circular motions. This will not only remove dust but also improve the overall sound quality thanks to the power sun spots.

@pfarnsworth84 2 года назад

The concentric grooves should help keep the laser from slipping out of the track!

@combatking0 2 года назад

@@pfarnsworth84 Oh, so that's how it works!

@CmputrBlu 2 года назад

Don't forget to finish off with a nice coat of paint 😁

@lucassolomon1079 2 года назад

This made me feel slightly physically sick.

@RilsR 2 года назад

Afterwards be sure to install the red light filter onto your laser for even clearer red-free sound.

@The_Original_Cujo 2 года назад

I can confirm the findings in this video, I ran Metallica's Death Magnetic through the demagnetiser a couple of times and it still sounded awful afterwards.

@GamesFromSpace 2 года назад

You probably demagnetized it upside down. That disc also sounds better when played upside down.

@PaulTheFox1988 2 года назад

@@GamesFromSpace I've heard rumours that it sounds better being played on an angle grinder while using a brick to read the data off the disc, not that I've tried it mind, I don't hate myself that much to listen to metal licker* :D *just kidding, I do genuinely enjoy some of Metallica's work so I hope no one takes it seriously

@Hykje 2 года назад

The problem is that the magnetic disappears leaving the CD soaking in death.

@michealmccann 2 года назад

🤣

@The_Original_Cujo 2 года назад

@@GamesFromSpace I find the best playback is inserted vertically in a toaster

@Uultraaaviolettt 2 года назад

Using an ultramagnetic MCs cd is hilarious, you’ve also got a great taste in music from what I’ve seen I remember you showing a dr. octagon cassette in a video a while ago

@StasIvanov23 2 года назад

How did you not notice! The musicians stopped playing off-key. The singer began to hit the notes! Everything has changed! The disc sounded softer, lampier, crystal clear. Thanks for the review! Good mood and good weather!

@Fluteboy 2 года назад

_Good mood and good weather_ - That is such a wonderful greeting!

@demef758 2 года назад

My dog's mood brightened as well after the disk demagnetizer treatment! But honestly, Rover did not enjoy being crammed into the demagnitizer either.

@AkosJaccik 2 года назад

Oh, wow. When a product makes the CD shaver a semi-reasonable idea in comparison, you know you have something beautiful at hand.

@BriBCG 2 года назад

At least the CD shaver made your discs double as throwing weapons.

@agevenisse3252 2 года назад

The CD shaver will damage the disc and potentially expose the aluminium layer, causing oxidation over time. The CD demagnetizer is better, since it does absolutely nothing to the disc. ;)

@AkosJaccik 2 года назад

@@agevenisse3252 Good, for more than 300 GBP I expect it to do _something,_ even if it's annihilation of data over literally just introducing reactive power into the grid.

@plainswell 2 года назад

I would have to be most concerned by all the 'reputable?' audio publications giving the glowing ticks of approval. It's the 'Monster Cable' scam all over again! Good job again, Techmoan...

@Ciborium 2 года назад

I remember when someone did a test between a Monster Cable and a wire coathanger and there was no discernable difference with analog audio.

@moosemaimer 2 года назад

@@Ciborium Nothing irritates a person with preconceived notions more than a double-blind study. See: orchestra auditions, wine tasting, fast fashion, etc.

@davidlong1786 2 года назад

They have always done so and always will when ad revenue is their main concern not truth.

@wbfaulk 2 года назад

@@moosemaimer What sort of double-blind studies are you proposing to test "fast fashion"?

@moosemaimer 2 года назад

@@wbfaulk There was a discount shoe store that set up a "fake" boutique location where they put the same shoes up for sale at vastly inflated prices and people went crazy for them.

@nikibordeaux 2 года назад

I love that you chose a CD by Ultramagnetic MCs for this experiment. 😄

@13donstalos 2 года назад

The "Ultramagnetic Mic's" CD, along with the 3 magnets left on it overnight, was probably the best choice ever.

@echoes89 2 года назад

I’d say The Magnetic Fields could also have been a good band for this test

@ian_b 2 года назад

Considering how every tweak widens the sound stage, modern audiophile setups must make it sound like the members of The Beatles are playing on different continents.

@hegedusuk 2 года назад

Don’t forget it separates the instruments

@Alefjj 2 года назад

High fidelity has reached a level that even sounds like John Lennon is playing from the afterlife.

@paulstubbs7678 2 года назад

Like the instruments in one continent and the singers in another

@BrunodeSouzaLino 2 года назад

That widening of the sound stage is most likely the huge reverberant untreated room these nutjobs put their equipment in.

@Alefjj 2 года назад

@Bob They are re-releasing the Revolver album with a modern mix, quite different from the old mixes.

@joekenorer 2 года назад

Your talent is talking about things longer than what they're worth talking about. It's almost more about listening to you talk than hearing the information you're sharing. Everything from your tone to your intro and outro music is chill af. You're a pleasantly unique channel and I hope it never changes. Great work.

@RaineStudio 2 года назад

Magnetic audiotape has a relatively high coercivity. The bulk erasers I used back in the analog era drew several amps and buzzed loudly enough to be heard from another room.

@Roxor128 2 года назад

I've heard of IT departments using them for wiping backup tapes. Maybe the manufacturers sell the same devices to both?

@derekheeps1244 4 месяца назад

That and the likes of Weircliffes had a prominent sign on the front panel telling you to remove wristwatches and leave them at a safe distance .

@edsvlogs9245 2 года назад

4:16 “With that $399 they could have got themselves some nice gold plated optical cables.” Made me laugh so hard 😂

@Mentski 2 года назад

The 300 quid gold plated optical cable will always be my favourite piece of audiophile snake oil.

@NigelDraycott 2 года назад

Does it help if you keep the gold plating polished

@FhangMedia 2 года назад

That's like people buying HDMI cables with a gold connector instead of plastic thinking that it will improve something somehow even though it doesn't make contact with anything

@CptJistuce 2 года назад

@@NigelDraycott Polishing it actually makes it worse. Removes all the microharmonics. May as well just use plastic at that pointd

@ZeusTheTornado 2 года назад

@@FhangMedia It's true, but you know what? I'd still pick the gold plated HDMI because gold plated connectors are resistant to corrosion. A big deal in humid places like my town

@xavierrose8208 2 года назад

This is the epitome of industry laughing at audiophiles

@e8root 2 года назад

Audiophiles come cut from different cloth. Some hear difference in completely BS products, some think they can hear things which do affect measurements and some will honestly say they cannot tell the difference or at least clearly. These last are as much minority as first group really but they cannot generate revenue and first group can. Then you have lots of valid products and few audio-voodoo BS products and these last products skew perception of people that audiophile == idiot. Imho worth keeping this in mind.

@wotnvideos 2 года назад

The RD-3 does seem to still be easily available brand new here in Japan. It's priced at 48,000 yen (330 USD or 297 GBP) and is currently at 4 stars on Amazon Japan with a bunch of reviews featuring audiophiles absolutely swearing that it makes their CDs sound so much better. I'm personally more amused by the negative ion bullshit, though.

@Weareonenation303 2 года назад

Some audiophiles will believe any bullshit improves the quality of audio.

@gl_tonight 2 года назад

If you send me your CDs I have a team of 11 thousand monks, 5 chess masters, and an ostrich who will pray for better sound and for only $10 per disc you can increase fidelity by oh... I don't know... at least 7%

@coriscotupi 2 года назад

*"audiophiles absolutely swearing that it makes their CDs sound so much better"* That's why it was mentioned in another thread in the comments here that audiophiles are laughing stock for audio engineers.

@glyph241 2 года назад

@@gl_tonight Sold. Where do I sign?

@hicknopunk 2 года назад

@@gl_tonight the prayers of chess masters never fail

@TeraAFK 2 года назад

Having an understanding of how data is read from a cd, how a digital signal differs from an analog signal, and having a rudimentary understanding of sampling theorm and digital audio compression is a lot more than most consumers at the time would be knowledgeable about. It's the perfect snakeoil product

@M4D0GG0 Год назад

Also deMAGNETise OPTICAL media

@alext3811 Год назад

CD's aren't compressed. Unless you're talking about sampling or limitations of bit depth.

@markmarkofkane8167 2 года назад

I'm surprised there's no talisman to remove evil forces from CD's. Great video!

@sysghost 2 года назад

I bet there is. You just have to look where shakra crystals spill into the audiophile world.

@SteveLBMK 2 года назад

You need the bespoke CD cases from Lourdes.

@anderson9244MLG 2 года назад

Lmao 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

@tommy5675 2 года назад

My last CD player came with a Dream Catcher, that had the double protection of a hanging cats paw AND a white rabbits foot......The sounds were amazing, but only when orientated to lay lines that bisect Crop circles that are aligned with Orions Belt. That last part is vital :D

@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 2 года назад

@@sysghost I inherit a lot of junk electronics on the terms of "see if you can fix it; otherwise, throw it out". I have laptops and radios and phone chargers with quartz crystals taped to their cords -- taped with gooey cheap black electrical tape. A part of me wants to tell them that the crystal is why their shit broke.

@SidewaysCytlan 2 года назад

I was one of those people who suggested ripping the CD and comparing checksums in the last video. Glad you explained why you don't want to do that, and your approach makes a lot more sense now. Thanks!

@romangiertych5198 2 года назад

@@BlackDuke235 It isn't, there are even entire databases which rely on those to identify discs. Look up Exact Audio Copy, it produces such accurate rips and creates a log file containing checksums and other data for every track.

@GamesFromSpace 2 года назад

@@BlackDuke235 If it went through an audio encoder, maybe (and even then, I'd expect a modern software based solution to be deterministic). If it's being dumped directly to bin, no, it will be perfectly identical assuming no errors.

@johanneswerner1140 2 года назад

Yup, because audiophiles tell us that 'you cannot measure clarity and instrument separation' - if there is a difference you are able to measure it. Especially with digital signals.

@zoomosis 2 года назад

@@romangiertych5198 Exactly. For Macs there's also X Lossless Decoder (XLD), which does a very similar thing. Great bit of software.

@romangiertych5198 2 года назад

@@BlackDuke235 You were responding to someone suggesting ripping - that isn't a recording, and that would be identical. A recording wouldn't match without being trimmed identically of course.

@Robothut 2 года назад

“There’s a sucker born every minute and two to take him.” Thank you for sharing these rip of devices with us.

@erik365365365 2 года назад

Even if these thing did do something, truly the cd standard’s error correction would make it a moot point, that was the wonder of a cd.

@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele 2 года назад

@@erik365365365 Exactly. Let's just take a moment to celebrate the 40th anniversary of this wonder, that just happened last Saturday!

@Sembazuru 2 года назад

Nah, P.T. Barnum was wrong. It's more like every second. (I can't take credit for this. I saw this nugget of wisdom in an old .sig random quote list. I have no idea the source.)

@electron_greg 2 года назад

I am always astounded that so called audiophiles (who usually spend a LOT of money) cannot apply simple logic to ruling out such piffle.

@lakerfan2874 8 месяцев назад

For me, it's about what they listen to and what albums they highly praise. I like Space Oddity more than Dark Side of the Moon, and I believe that Space Oddity is better than the latter. One's a drag, and you can't figure out which track you're on besides "Time" and "Money" while Space Oddity has longer songs, and it makes a story with what is on the album, while Dark Side of the Moon is a bunch of rubbish fit in between 2 great tracks. I won't mind listening to it, but I think I might be listening to it wrong as I'm listening to it sober instead of being stoned or on LSD.

@mysock351C 2 года назад

The reason the LED fades out like that is they are using a PTC thermistor for the coil (Edit: Or possibly a thyristor circuit since it was ready to go almost immediately again for the flip-side, but the function is essentially the same). The idea is that it slowly tapers the alternating field from the coil off to zero so there is no residual magnetism. It was a very simple and ingenious way to demagnetize old CRT monitors. At least they got that part of it right, but it was probably a copy of something else originally that was useful before it was bastardized into this.

@iNerdier 2 года назад

Makes me wonder if this would be a cheap screwdriver demagnetiser

@Thermalions 2 года назад

@@iNerdier Not based on the (lack of) effect on the cassette tape.

@romangiertych5198 2 года назад

@@Thermalions Would probably do something to the tape if it was put directly on the coil rather than through the wood piece and the plastic box.

@nofider1 2 года назад

@@Thermalions He neglected to rewind the cassette before playing.... ergo no erased audio. I would buy one tomorrow just to reduce the width of my wallet. By the way I'm still looking for an IR filter for my tube amp to help prevent wallpaper peeling............. :-)

@movax20h 2 года назад

I do not think they use PTC for that. I see IC there, my bet is this is 555 timer.

@nutsnproud6932 2 года назад

Thanks for the video Mat. It's almost as much fun as the DVD rewinder!

@LillyP-xs5qe 2 года назад

Oh fudge, that thing was real, I was sure you were joking about a DVD rewinder

@kelvin1316 2 года назад

It kinda reminds me of my mum when I started her on the Web, she was convinced that before you could close the browser you had to hit the back button until you got to the "start" page. Took me ages to convince that you can just close the software. I could see where she was thinking for doing it and I love my mum ♥

@bkzach 2 года назад

I love you Techmoan never change, "turns out I can talk about things longer than I thought" and I wouldn't want anything else, your videos always manage to impress in both terms of tech and your presentation and sense of humor

@Tahngarthor Год назад

those gold plated optical cables may not gain anything from being gold plated, but at least the cables are functional, which is more than can be said for this device

@GreenShark4 2 года назад

God, I love you reviewing audiophile placebo accessories. Remember that story about people running audio through gold plated cables and then a wire clothes hanger and people couldn't tell the difference?

@robinsutcliffe-video_art 2 года назад

He nails it with the wrap up at the end, SOME things make a difference to audio, UP TO A POINT! There are so many ways to define technical audio, watts, ohms, db, dbu, dbv, it's endless, the comparisons and specs given even by low end consumer audio are ridiculous' contrary and confusing. So it's easy to make shit up that appears plausible BUT YOU CAN"T HEAR IT. You can spend 1300e on a power chord (a kettle lead) so you have pristine AC. Can you hear it? No.

@jonathonshanecrawford1840 2 года назад

I've done something like that, running audio through Golden wire ($10+/metre) and through optic fibre, no differentce at all or about 0.000% difference!

@JoQeZzZ 2 года назад

@@jonathonshanecrawford1840 That sounds amazing! You could get a Nobel prize out of that I reckon, passing electrical signals over an optic fibre

@steviebboy69 2 года назад

Didn't they have Monster Cables or some similar name and they were real thick speaker to amp interconnecting cables. All I had was cables that cost maybe $5 AUD a Metre but I got quite a lot of that for free when I purchased my Yamo' 707's years ago.

@KellyMurphy 2 года назад

I've worked in IT forever and remember Best Buy had several brands of Toslink cables on the shelf. The guy tried to tell me that the gold plated $60 Monster cable would give me much better sound then the $10 one sitting next to it. I looked at him deadpanned and said, "its optical, ie light, and digital. The data either gets to the other end or it doesn't, if you are hearing music it will be the identical no matter what optical cable you use."

@bolesawmayzel6476 2 года назад

Hey Mat, I think that this magnetic tape visualizer could help visualizing the field that this device creates. Video as always great and huge thank you for keeping me entertained every week!

@Kualinar 2 года назад

Wouldn't be surprised to discover that the coil is not connected to anything. Discovering that it not even be conductive wouldn't be a surprise.

@dingdong7440 2 года назад

If, as the manufacturer states, the interior of a CD/DVD player has many components that can magnetize a CD/DVD, even if that demagnetizer worked, as soon as you slide it into a player, it would become magnetized again, besides all the paint trash they state in the first place. Totally absurd. Great videos by the way!.

@jamiemarchant 2 года назад

Oh wait that's a valid point, so it would never work.

@EricLS 2 года назад

“Uhhh it takes a while….to collect magnet…points…..because it’s weakly magnetic….so the instruments take a while to mix together on the CD”

@dingdong7440 2 года назад

@@EricLS yeah, it also takes a while to collect the coin pot at the end of a rainbow.

@yourTurb0 Год назад

Now we want a schematic of it. Please send this thing over to Big Clive, he takes it completely apart and gives us more details what it does or doesn't do. So mayby you could erase old harddisk with it, they manufacturer advertised the product wrong then.

@gabrielv.4358 Год назад

Yes!

@creamcheese746 Год назад

Love him! Yes!

@hashbrown777 Год назад

If it cant even distort an unshielded tape it cannot hope to touch data on a harddisk. You can whack huge neodymium magnets on disks to no effect.

@Max_Mustermann 2 года назад

5:40 - maybe the CD player has issues with reading your CDs because they've become heavily magnetized over the years.

@Thermalions 2 года назад

Maybe he needs a CD Player demagnetiser to resolve the issue?

@fsmoura 2 года назад

He'll have to build a specially isolated studio, demagnetized and deopticized to settle this issue.

@llaeeZ 2 года назад

@@Thermalions They already exist... Not specifically for CD players but for audio electronics in general. Usually just a stone or something that is placed ontop of the unit... Yes, its as stupid as it sounds.

@FalloutofContext 2 года назад

It's insane how much stuff like this exists and how expensive it is for doing nothing haha

@markfergerson2145 2 года назад

The audiophool market exists because some people just will not make the effort to understand how things work and what changes are actually discernable. There's also the ego/elitist component to the phenomenon in that they believe they have superior hearing, so superior that mere technology cannot discern differences that they can.

@ricardlupus 2 года назад

Well, it probably does something, after all someone did spend the time to wind a magnetic coil and build associated drive electronics...that's not saying that it does anything useful in its intended context of course.

@yodab.at1746 2 года назад

@@ricardlupus they do that to fulfill the imagined necessity of the person buying it. If it was an empty box, it would be harder to CONvince someone it did anything. Unless maybe it was filled with esoteric air which, btw, is the next thing in infinite baffle speaker technology......

@tonyzed6831 2 года назад

"A fool and his money..."

@favoritemustard3542 2 года назад

**cough** snake🐍🛢oil **cough**

@JessHull 2 года назад

I like how you're delving into this area of audio quackery. There's so much silliness to explore and call out.

@jreese8284 2 года назад

We had to replay some bits because we laughed so hard that we couldn't hear your next words....didn't want to miss a moment of this gem. "Demagnetizing vinyl" indeed! On the other hand, perhaps if I demagnetize my socks, it will improve the timbre of my voice; maybe I can sound as good as you!

@meandmyEV 2 года назад

I worked at a radio station in the early 2000s. By then, all of the music, commercials, etc was digital but we had one of these devices collecting dust in the corner of the studio. Apparently someone believed it worked. I wonder if they had ever used it.

@moonshine3333 2 года назад

I could sell you a dust remover for £3,999.99. It’s a little bit scratched where it used to say Dyson😳

@Thermalions 2 года назад

You just know the pointy-haired boss bought it.

@LatitudeSky 2 года назад

Might have been sent over on spec by the company. If they could get even ONE DJ talking up this product, they'd probably quadruple sales. But it sounds like it didn't impress. They should have paid DJs to push it.

@jublywubly 2 года назад

Evidently, the person who bought the machine didn't know how CDs work. lol

@musicandfilms9956 2 года назад

@@Thermalions Dilbert!

@FranLab 2 года назад

This looks like they simply re-marketed a device for erasing magneto-optical discs so that they could keep selling the bulk erasers long after the drives were no longer being made.

@dlarge6502 2 года назад

Magneto-optical discs can not be erased by this either. The magnetic fields on such a disc can not be changed unless you heat the material to its curie point.

@peterpiper0815 2 года назад

Didn't know that such thing exist. I still use MO-Disks (as storage device for my AKAI MPC2000) and IMO for this type of devices ('old' sampler with SCSI connector) it's the best option. I wonder how these MOD eraser work cause the benefit of the MOD is to be insensitive to external magnetic fields unless the Disk is heated above the Curie temperature.

@cdl0 2 года назад

@@dlarge6502 Yes, this is correct. A laser is used to heat the media for recording and erasing data.

@kosh604 2 года назад

I am curious to know if that device did anything at all except than lighting up the LED. Maybe BigClive could reverse engineer the circuit?

@stupidfanboyph 2 года назад

It looks like it can act like an induction cooker

@VincentvanLeijden 2 года назад

I was actually looking for this comment, before posting it myself. TBH I was briefly disappointed when you already opened it up yourself. Still, I would love to see BigCliveDotCom reverse engineer this.

@llaeeZ 2 года назад

Hell yeah. Big Clive should def have a look at this!

@skylined5534 2 года назад

@@VincentvanLeijden Put it this way, the 'erase' light is certainly being powered by a capacitor which gets a momentare charge by a brief press of the button. I bet if Mat had held it down it would have stayed lit... showing it's super-demagnifying that there CD!

@tomclanys 2 года назад

@@skylined5534 it's lighting up when it's discharged, it lights up on power up by itself.

@BrumKid 2 года назад

Wow how time gone by fast i remember the first time i came on this channel it was when i watched the review on the G1W car cam review back in 2013 and now the channel has got even stronger in 2022 and has over 1.2 million subscribers, my hat is off to you and your channel.

@tommy5675 2 года назад

I can remember reading stories in the early 90s about storing your CDs in the freezer as the colder temperature will somehow help the lasers retrieval of information. I never tried it, but there seem to have been a bit of a history of trying to malign CDs as somekind of "Impure" media

@lasskinn474 2 года назад

🤔 how the hecks that supposed to work. extreme temperatures can damage cd's though

@talibong9518 2 года назад

This one is actually true, I used to freeze my scratched PS1 games to make them be able to load again.

@thesteelrodent1796 2 года назад

putting a CD in the freezer will make the binding layer brittle (of course depending on how cold a freezer we're talking here) and you risk the reflective layer peeling off, besides the disc most likely will condensate when you put it in a cd player. If anything it will make the disc sound much worse and possibly even make it unplayable

@MEGAMIGA 2 года назад

It was probably by the same people who believe that "Vinyl sounds better than CDs AnD iT's A fAcT!!!!!!"

@e8root 2 года назад

Hmmm, maybe going freezing cold is the way to remove that darn jitter. You know, the jitter that even your PC will pick up and store in analog substrate on which data is recorded and which you cannot really get rid off once it is there because it will affect how jitterly data is recorded and will make electronics in your computers jittery. Like you could rip jittery CD to one file and clean CD on the other and copy the files from PC to PC, even over internet and store it on various digital device types (like RAM, hard disk, punch tapes (probably the best to study jitter!!!!!!!!!!), flash, cd-r, etc) along the way and file from jittery CD will have more jitter than from non-jittery CD even if bits are identical. You know, this is serious issue... gotta go clean my head now from audio-voodoo magnetism to resolve it ;)

@drewzero1 2 года назад

I'm really enjoying this series of audiophile pseudoscience products. Keep em coming!

@Roxor128 2 года назад

Audiophool products more like it.

@crackedemerald4930 2 года назад

AudioFaux

@damonappel 2 года назад

Of all the long videos I've watched on RU-vid, I don't think I've ever felt I've 'wasted time' watching TechMoan. -- Keep on talking it up!

@ronanzann4851 Год назад

I have to say that Willow S. absolutely nailed it when describing "audiophiles". I feel for them at times when I try to imagine going through life in a world over-populated with predator/scamers and con-artists and at the same time being so ill-equipped to recognize let alone deal with these ubiquitous threats.

@AsmodeusMictian Год назад

That problem can be fixed by these 11,000% premium priced gold and unobtainum plated audio cables, friend. Don't spread this around, but I can get you a pair of these cables for the almost criminally low price of $15k each, but BE QUIET ABOUT IT. At that price I'll have people beating down my door trying to get me to sell them some!!

@AwesometownUSA Год назад

YES! I’ve noticed SOOO many (generally younger) people complaining about audio quality of various podcasts I listen to, which really sound fine and totally acceptable… I’ve been starting to wonder if maybe ~20 or so years ago the moms of the world just suddenly started giving birth exclusively to babies with pristine, solid gold ears haha. it’s like, settle down guys; no one cares how much you spend on headphones

@solhsa 2 года назад

It would be interesting to see ferrite dust patterns both from the magnetized cd as well as the demagnetizer.

@ajkarman 2 года назад

I’d love to see this technique of testing used to see the difference between an inexpensive cd player vs a player considered “audiophile” quality.

@davidspear9790 2 года назад

Wow! The company certainly saw the audiophiles coming with this device!

@alancrane4693 2 года назад

Yep and for the amount of money for that rather put it towards a piece of equipment.

@DJPhantomRage 2 года назад

As do most companies.

@katiebunn 2 года назад

This is as always a great video. Love the dismantling of audiophile crap. Most of all just makes me want to pull me hair out that this received good reviews by contemporary sources.

@DanHarkless_Halloween_YTPs_etc 2 года назад

Makes me wonder whether payola was involved. I mean, surely folks reviewing stuff like this are aware of the need for blind A-B testing…

@emilholmgrenmusic 2 года назад

Hi, Mat! Loving these "debunking audiophile nonsense" videos, keep 'em coming! A way you COULD improve CD performance back in the day was to get a better D/A converter after a few years. The ones in early players weren't particularly good. The same goes for vinyl and RIAA amplifiers. Next to a new pickup or stylus, the biggest improvement you can make to your playback chain is a new one of those.

@8bitwiz_ 2 года назад

But that's improving the player, not the CD.

@emilholmgrenmusic 2 года назад

@@8bitwiz_ It's improving the playback quality, which is the aim for any upgrade.

@magicscreengames4353 2 года назад

You CAN improve a CD if you remove the dust from it. I had a very dusty CD and it had a very interesting sound.

@straightpipediesel 2 года назад

@@avsystem3142 No, the error correction on CD audio is fairly weak because people are tolerant to glitches in the audio. CD players use error concealment, usually by replaying the last segment of correctly decoded audio. Another problem is tracking, CDDA has no way of identifying information to less than around 100 ms, so dust or scratch can cause track skipping, like a record. That's why when CD-ROM was added, they used an additional 12% of the bits to ECC, and labeled all the sectors.

@edwardallenthree 2 года назад

True, but there are diminishing returns, and some of the "highest" end DACs today are awful, objectively. The reality is that a DAC chip with a noise floor of -100 dBm can be small and cheap enough to fit in a USB-c dongle for pennies today. The fact that so many DACs are so bad when the technology is "solved" is pathetic.

@MrNside 2 года назад

Another thing to check out (if you haven't already) is the gold CDs that were sold in the mid 90s. Instead of aluminum, they used 18k gold (supposedly) as the reflective layer within the disc. I had a copy of Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon that was gold. IIRC, it was around $45-$50 back then. EDIT: I remembered incorrectly. They were advertised as using 24k gold, not 18k.

@pfarnsworth84 2 года назад

That actually makes some sense, though - as gold is a basically inert and non-reactive metal, it will never get cd/laser rot. It's not going to sound any different, of course, but it should last longer, 'archivally' speaking.

@danbance5799 2 года назад

That's a different case altogether - there are 2 legitimate reasons to use gold as the reflective layer in the disc. Aluminum is very prone to oxidation and oxygen can very slowly migrate through the protective layers of the disc to reach the aluminum. Over time, this will damage the aluminum and after a period of time - say, 50 years? - the disc might be unreadable even if it is in otherwise pristine condition. Gold is used in archival grade discs that are intended to be readable hundreds of years in the future. The second reason, of course, is the bling factor. It looks awesome and you can brag to all your friends that your gold CD of Dark Side of the Moon will be playable by your great-great-great grandchildren. I've been re-ripping my old CDs. When I first ripped them, hard drive space was very limited and I encoded them at very low bitrates. Now that disk space is no longer an issue, it makes sense to rip them again. This has been a very slow process because my drive is reporting all kinds of read errors and that simply wasn't the case 20 years ago, and in some cases this affects the output file. Most of my discs are around 25-30 years old - I bought them in high school and college, many of them second hand. They certainly have their share of scratches and surface defects as well. So this would be a really great experiment to run - my copy of Dark Side of the Moon vs yours - how many read errors does that generate? And would that be helped if I used a disc polisher on the disc? It may also be that modern Blu-Ray/DVD drives just aren't well suited to reading CDs. That's another possibility and I don't have any information on if that is the case.

@AlainHubert 2 года назад

There is a slight advantage of gold over aluminum for CDs. Gold doesn't oxidize or rot as aluminum can if the polycarbonate layers aren't sealed properly on a CD over time. As far as gold CDs sounding better? Definitely not if they're both made using the same audio source.

@MrNside 2 года назад

@@AlainHubert Yeah, the durability argument makes sense, but their marketing was focused on supposed better sound quality and supposed ability to reach frequencies unattainable by normal CDs. All hogwash, of course.

@holidaywednesday4069 2 года назад

24 karat gold, according to the label-- I have a gold copy of Master of Puppets.

@rpb424 2 года назад

These supposed ‘improvements’ are always described in the same audiophile generic terms as well. Every product always provides all of the following - ‘better separation’, ‘wider soundstage’, ‘improved ‘clarity’. Any one of those missing and it’s obviously no good. I’ve always found that having an even number of books on the shelf in my listening room helps enormously. An odd number seems to muddy the sound to some degree.

@vintageaudioemporium 2 года назад

Interesting by these generic terms, technically moving your speakers farther apart achieves ‘better separation’ and ‘wider soundstage’. By their logic I guess how hydrated you are would matter too lol

@Lance_G 2 года назад

I absolutely love the phase test you've pioneered as the ultimate in scientific audiophile debunking 🙌

@beardymcbeardface69 2 года назад

Yes it's excellent. However it is an invert test and not a phase test. If this were a phase test where the A/B audio were 180 degrees out of phase, it could only work if the entire audio were a single constant sine wave. Anything more complex than a single sine wave and you'd have a situation where you'd have to choose which harmonic of the audio you want to place out of phase by 180 degrees. The rest of the audio could not be 180 degrees out of phase because it has a different period, so the test could not work. Simple inversion does the trick regardless of how complex the audio is. Phase change cannot because the audio does not consist of a single sine wave.

@uniqueflowsnake 2 года назад

The praise is valid for using it but pioneering it is not. Nothing new here.

@MMID303 2 года назад

I used to consider myself an audiophile, until I started reading on the internet all the crazy great lengths they will go to achieve the best sound. I no longer consider myself an audiophile. I'm just an audio enthusiast.

@davidshepherd265 2 года назад

Yeah, same. I like my music to sound good, but at 37 after several rounds of ear surgery, my ears aren't what they were in my teens or early - mid 20's, and even if they were perfect, I realise there's simply a limit as to how good you can improve things until you reach a point where there's zero noticeable improvement. Not to mention snake oil like these devices and interconnects that cost as much as a new car.

@jort93z 2 года назад

audiophiles buy a bunch of placebo stuff and pretend to hear a difference, lmao.

@wtmayhew 2 года назад

The difference: audio enthusiasts listen to the music while audiophiles listen to the flaws.

@cbsboyer 2 года назад

Same here. In my younger years, I worked retail in an electronics store and sold all kinds of Monster Cable to AV fanatics (including gold plated optical cables), but I certainly never had any trouble with store brand speaker cable and inexpensive patch cables.

@rsnowdowne 2 года назад

@@wtmayhew That's not even strictly true. Audio enthusiasts listen to the music and try to make it sound as good as possible. Audiophiles spend heaps of money on stuff that can't possibly do anything, and then imagine that they hear the flaws (which weren't there in the first place) being eliminated.

@piratetv1 2 года назад

I always love this audiophile quackery. I used to do tv repair for a high end audio/video store. I once had a client that had his speaker wires on tiny telephone poles going across his living room. He told me, "the floor crushes the Flux in the wires so you need to keep them off the floor". At my next and current job, we had an hdmi cable factory rep try to show us the difference in audio between his cheap cables and his expensive cables. 2 of us in the audience were technicians instead of the salesmen he was used to. I noticed he was playing an audio file and waiting to pause at a very specific place to change cables. I also noticed he never hit the back button. His file repeated at different qualities at the point he would pause each time. We called him out on it.

@piratetv1 2 года назад

@@feralfeline6137 his placement was good and there was a rug. He hand made a tube preamp that was on a table by where he sat so that there were no transistors or remote controls to spoil the sound

@veggiet2009 2 года назад

You've managed to find a "technology" that makes last week's solution sound absolutely reasonable by comparison!

@hicknopunk 2 года назад

🤣🤣

@Zactivist 2 года назад

I think there was a whole cottage industry of maguffins like this designed to separate 'audiophiles' from their money. I've met people who swear up and down that because they paid $1000 for a cable, the sound coming through it is magically amazing. I'd be willing to bet someone who paid $300 for that thing (probably a lot more in the original year value) would believe they were hearing some difference, and in their mind, maybe they are.

@johnpekkala6941 2 года назад

The absolute worst things I have seen are magic stones for 1000s of dollars that u place on your equipment to somehow magically improve the sound. Another one is an ethernet cable for over 1500 dollars claiming to improve the sound quality on the music you stream over internet (of course using a servce like Tidal wich have lossless quality). First of all, the cable is digital and second it ignores completley the 100s of miles of ordinary ethernet cable (unless you have optical cable all the way to your house but it does not matter, as said the signal transmitted is digital). I consider myself to be an audiophile but a pair of good quality Cervin Vega XLS12 speakers and a decent Yamaha reciever I find are good enough to give me really nice and dynamic sound I can really enjoy weather its Beethoovens 5 or Psy trance. Im an all eater when it comes to music but I like good dynamics in general and sure CW might not be "neutral" speakers but as I said I like a bit extra punch in the music as I enjoy good dynamics and it still sounds 100% clean and accurate to me.

@FuSiionCraft Год назад

@@johnpekkala6941 .... a good ol' focusrite scarlet and Audio Technica headset for a whopping 500$ in total will give you studio quality. Know why ? Because they are used in studios. For speakers, AT or a singer amplifier if you want volume, ~200$ You *don't* need all other shits.

@toyfreaks 2 года назад

Between 1987-1991 i was a DJ at a decrepit college radio station. The on-air studio had not been updated since the 70's and the production studio looked like the set of a 1950's sci-fi movie! One of the most terrifying devices in that audio torture room was this 10 kilogram degausser that made a BRRAAPPP! sound like an electric chair. 😳 It would fully erase a stack of 4-5 commercial cartridges in a second! If I die of cancer...

@stefanfrankel8157 2 года назад

I had a degausser I used on my TV screen on occasion. I really don't remember it doing much at all other than distorting the picture while it was operating.

@dedogster 2 года назад

Back in the 80s my dad who worked for a olace, that had a machine like that , he said they would get the co-op students to run it, just to give them a bit of a scare!

@toyfreaks 2 года назад

@@stefanfrankel8157 Anybody remember when CRT computer monitors had a degauss function? You could brraappp the screen from the control panel.

@JohnEpi 2 года назад

hahaha!! great story !!

@nthgth 2 года назад

Lol magnetism is not ionizing radiation, I don't think it'll have given you cancer

@digitalhare4516 2 года назад

I'd love for Techmoan to do some collabs on things like this with BigClive. Mat testing these crap devices and Clive tearing down and finely analyzing the electronic internals. I mean, he already tears these sorts of things down as is.

@DOCTOR_SONG 2 года назад

In life EVERYTHING you will ever need to know is taught by my favorite teachers TECHMOAN,FRANLAB, BIG CLIVE AND KEN WHEELER. everything else is just clicky swipey crap.

@mikesage9544 2 года назад

That could be the Christmas edition!!! The sum of the combined works would be way grater than the parts used to make the vlog. In other words, something for nothing. Being a Tech myself, I have a lot of time for both of them.

@athompso99 2 года назад

I was just about to type this out as a comment, but am unsurprised someone else beat me to it. This would be awesome. Heck, the same device could produce two videos: one here and a separate video for Bigclive!

@procrastinator1842 2 года назад

Yeah it would be nice if clive spent more than 5 cents on something he tears down.

@williamwatson1532 2 года назад

Big Clive is brilliant! The arch debunker

@fattiger6957 2 года назад

Based on this and the last video, I could probably sell an anti-voodoo curse CD treater back in the 90s and audiophiles would eat it up. Gotta protect your discs from rogue voodoo curses. They're just floating in the air everywhere.

@alancrane4693 2 года назад

🤣 stick a rubber plant behind each speaker and hear the improvement.

@WildBluntHickok 2 года назад

Yeah voodoo curses are one thing, but it's the free-floating "rogue curses" that are the real problem. They're not even pointed at someone who did something to deserve the curse! If it's any consolation, I hear rogue voodoo curses have a preferences for older formats. The older the better. So us CD fans are less likely to encounter them!

@rogerb5615 2 года назад

That ... and do not overlook the effect of chemtrails on the CD's surface. Need to minimize that as well.

@michaelthomas3646 2 года назад

to be fair though, I was looking at the disc shaver when it came out, and thought that is a good idea, as would stop some of the wobble with less disc weight, but never owned a discman, and so the disc shaver fell into the history of computer music magazine so to say. as didn't really need it for a hi-fi system. but think a sulphuric acid degreaser spinner bath might be a hit, as will get rid of scratches as well as degrease finger prints from discs all in one go!! lol

@johnsherwood2306 2 года назад

Spot on Matt! Those among us who grew up with analogue equipment have a need to tinker and improve, and we are the perfect target for this kind of marketing. I really enjoy your channel and hope you keep these segments coming. Also glad you opened it up to show the coil inside, I wasn't expecting to see that.

@Pro1er 2 года назад

I think I found the problem: "CD players contain magnetic substances, when a disc is played, the rotation of the mechanism, magnet and motor generates a flux which quickly causes discs to become magnetized." In other words, as soon as you play your newly demagnetized disc, it is immediately re-magnetized as soon as it's played. 🤣

@wtmayhew 2 года назад

My parents were members of a big band. Mom keyboard, dad trombone. You’d think people who make music for a career would be excellent judges of reproduced music, which of course they are. Their hi-fi was composed of middle of the road Radio Shack components, which would probably turn self-proclaimed audiophiles ten shades of green. The deal was they were more interested in the music itself than any flaws in the reproduction which they casually disregarded.

@amimartian 2 года назад

Do you know a saying that 'a cobbler has the worst shoes around'?'

@wtmayhew 2 года назад

@@mutosanrc1933 I guess there are hobbies for everyone. A lot of the snooty audiophile stuff seems to be about nit picking and coincidentally usually spending a lot of money. It is kind of like flying a private charter to Paris to see the Mona Lisa and looking at the paint with a magnifying glass, but not bothering to actually look at the picture as a whole. My point is that even cheap equipment may be just fine for an enjoyable experience when one listens beyond focusing on insufficiencies.

@wtmayhew 2 года назад

@@amimartian Good analogy.

@JawshMcCullaugh 2 года назад

Man, how can they hear the difference in the music? They're too busy going deaf playing in a big band.

@trappenweisseguy27 2 года назад

They likely had measurable hearing loss as well as being resigned to the fact that no hifi can possibly compare to real live music.

@CabalCorporation 2 года назад

I would love to see Big Clive's teardown of it (with schematics). Maybe this snake oil would be useful for something other than scrapping its components.

@StormsparkPegasus 2 года назад

It's got a coil and some electronics. Change the case out, add a cooling fan, tinker a bit with the electronics, and you could have an induction cooktop. Or, if you didn't want to deal with having to add cooling, you could make an inductive charger out of it pretty easily.

@CheezeCracker 2 года назад

@@StormsparkPegasus think your onto something here. Desktop coffee mug warmer. Now we just need compatible coffee mugs. Technoan. Get the merch going!!

@RCAvhstape 2 года назад

@@StormsparkPegasus That big flat coil looks similar to the ones on the bases of tesla coils.

@stevesstuff1450 2 года назад

Nah...scrapping the components is more valuable; all that copper has an actual monetary value; the bullshit value is zero....snake oil is of more value to the snakes, than the intended audiophool victims! 😀

@Peron1-MC Год назад

”for that they could have gotten a goldplated optical cable” XD

@phrtao 2 года назад

Fascinating from an Anthropological point of view. It shows that superstition and witchcraft are still alive and well when people don't understand technology. It is just like more 'primitive' societies trying to use magic and ceremony to control aspects of the natural world like the weather. As always Techmoan makes it entertaining to watch as well.

@VariantAEC 2 года назад

Really crops up anytime someone doesn't understand a thing, whether it be audio equipment the shape of the world (spherical) what arial condensation looks like trailing behind aircraft engines (clouds) or what causes climate change (not human activity).

@jbinary82 2 года назад

it's like anti-aging creams, or baldness treatments...

@mechadeka 2 года назад

@@VariantAEC "what causes climate change (not human activity)" Funny how even research conducted by oil companies doesn't show that. Subhuman.

@terencejay8845 2 года назад

There was a notorious case recently of a UK businessman selling bomm detectors overseas. They were used at security checkpoints to detect any Xplosifs in a vehicle. He sold hundreds at a huge price. When the detector box was opened, it was just a battery with a flashing LED and a standard radio aerial. Totally, utterly useless. However, despite them being shown to be useless, many kept using them as the belief, by the vehicle drivers, that they worked provided a deterrent.

@StormsparkPegasus 2 года назад

@@VariantAEC There are 2 types of climate change. Natural climate change, which does happen, but takes place over geological time scales. Tens to hundreds of thousands of years. Then human-caused climate change, which happens on a human time scale (so noticeable changes in 50 years). Climate change is DEFINITELY caused by human activity.

@darktetsuya 2 года назад

wow sounds about as effective as a DVD rewinder, LOL! amazed to see all that copper wiring on the inside I half expected nothing at all on the teardown.

@atsdroid 2 года назад

I expected a slug of lead.

@misamsung6191 2 года назад

This one and the CD shaver reminded me of an argument I had with a non technical friend about using a blue marker (it had to be blue), and colouring in the outer edge of the CD. He did his and swore up and down that it worked. I asked him if he wanted to borrow my CD rewind kit the next time he rents movies. He paused for a moment so I told him the rental store gives a discount for rewound CDs. That way they don't have to do it themselves. People will believe just about anything if you can sell it right. He wanted to borrow the kit and after giving him my "you've got to be kidding, you can't be that thick", look. He laughed at the joke.

@simonharris4873 2 года назад

Blue? That wont work. It needs to be the complimentary colour to the laser in the CD player, which is a particular shade of green. You're friend doesn't know what he's talking about.

@bareknuckles2u 2 года назад

I have one of these and it definitely adds authority to the material and a bigger sweep across the entire bandwidth. In addition, the entire envelope of each note is presented as well as greater transparency. Bass notes are also much more nimble with reduced chuffiness. Finally, there is much less constraint and colouration of sound dynamics compared to non-demagnetized cds. 😂🙃😉😆🤣

@hagen-p 2 года назад

Are you applying for a consulting role at Tidal? 😉

@rolandbogush2594 2 года назад

I guess this device isn't any more ridiculous in concept than many other 'audiophile' accessories. Personally, I think 'directional' AC power cords trump gold plated TOLINK cables. Wonderful video, Mat.

@annother3350 2 года назад

Sure, come back when you can spell cords and we might take you seriously ;O)

@lasskinn474 2 года назад

this thing gave me an idea of selling faraday cages for storing cd's and for putting cd players in. 6000 per cabinet should be fine. marketing idea is that the cd being about half the wavelength of cellphone signals in length is receiving cell tower signals and degrading and can degrade your cd player while playing. though I'm pretty sure they're already selling faraday cages for hifi, at least that idea without the cd bit makes some sort of sense..

@spykillergames8402 2 года назад

yea those do exist....audiphjile grade line cords...heck you can buy audiophile grade plugstrips (extension cables) with choke coils in to "clean the incoming sine waves"

@leglessinoz 2 года назад

As a former electrician I can't say I've ever even heard of a directional power cable. I suppose it's possible to do but completely pointless.

@GamesFromSpace 2 года назад

Interference from AC power/ground is an actual problem with lots of audio equipment. It causes a humming sound, and can be pretty hard to track which device is doing it. So there's a germ of truth in it.

@MrJef06 2 года назад

If anything it goes to show the incredible reproducibility/stability of the CD reading process on the SPDIF output. Well done for an 80s consumer technology.

@whompronnie 2 года назад

CD really was a monumentally impressive leap from everything that preceded it

@novelezra 2 года назад

This looks like a great product. It will go well with my magnetized copper bracelets that I use to cure my wifi allergy.

@UlanKaz Год назад

I used this to demagnetise Metallica's "Death Magnetic". The album sounded horrible when it came out, but now it's an absolute joy to listen to.

@raptorchow329 2 года назад

You could sprinkle iron filings on the "cd demagnetizer" and turn it on, and see what happens. Could be fun!

@mattsword41 2 года назад

love your approach to these gentle and extremely funny debunking episodes :) Your videos are always a joy :)

@dwaynezilla 2 года назад

I like how this channel gives you reason to buy this stuff and test it. We get to see it and you get answers and the sting of buying the thing is much less when it turns out to be a scam (which is usually the case), because you've got some content to pay for it, haha. Also (from a viewer's perspective) it makes for some interesting videos!

@fireaza 2 года назад

From the moment I saw this unit, I could tell it was made in Japan. I swear, every single Japanese consumer electronics company uses that same font, it's also used on the Micomsoft Framemeister!

@ranseus 2 года назад

It would have been interesting to see a sheet of "Magnetic Flux Viewing Film" laying on the CD after it was "magnetized." It might not have been sensitive enough to show anything, but it would have been pretty definitive if it was.

@stevesstuff1450 2 года назад

You mean a 'before & after' test... it would have great to see no reaction in the film in both the before, and then the after tests!! 🙂

@firesurfer 2 года назад

I'd like to see if there is anything at all there. More than likely not. I'd like Techmoan to try using a compass or a gaussmeter or just some steel filings. Just to be clear, there is no chance at all that it would do anything, even if there is something. edit; I just had a thought that steel that is in the drive "might'' be affected. This holds the laser optical assembly. I know it's nonsense but I mention it on the extreme outside possibility.

@startedtech 2 года назад

@@firesurfer maybe crossover time with the Brainiac75 RU-vid channel? He has some pretty fancy magnetic measuring equipment.

@scottperrin9655 2 года назад

I've worked in broadcasting for over 25 years, and when I first started we used to have these demagnitizing boxes lying around. They were for erasing carts, used for commercials way before I started. Those demagnitizers would make a cart or cassette shake like an exorcism. Obviously quite a bit stronger than what you have there. Not that I think it make a lick of difference, but now you have me curious to try it and then compare with phase inversion as you've so awesomely done.