Demo of the North German Organ at Salem Lutheran, Wausau, WI

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Modeled after a 17th century design often used by Bach, the completely mechanical organ combines metal pipes manufactured in Germany with wood pipes and solid oak cabinetry crafted in the U.S. Organists are encouraged to listen to and play the instrument. Demonstrations are also available by making advance arrangements.
Brustpositiv
Gedeckt 8′ (wood)
Floit 4′ (wood)
Principal 2′
Quint 1½’
Terzian II 1⅗’ (double-draw with Quint)
Scharff III 2⅔’
Krumphorn 8′
Werck
Principal 16′ (1-7 from Quintadena)
Quintadena 16′
Octava 8′
Hohlfloit 8′
Octava 4′
Floit 4′
Nasat 3′
Octava 2′
Mixtur IV-VI 1½’
Cymbel III ½’
Trommet 8′
Rueckpositiv
Praestant I-II 8′ (1-7 common with Gedeckt)
Gedeckt 8′
Quintadena 8′
Octava 4′
Rohrfloit 4′
Ocatava 2′
Waldfoit 2′
Sesquialtera II 2⅔’
Scharff IV 1′
Dulcian 16′
Trechterregal 8′
Pedal
Principal 16′ (1-7 wood, in gross Pedal case; 8-30 from Werck)
Subbass 16′ (wood, in gross Pedal case)
Octava 8′ (from Werck)
Octava 4′ (from Werck)
Nachthorn 2′
Mixtur IV-VI 1½’
Posaun 16′ (in gross Pedal case)
Trommet 8′ (from Werck)
Cornet 2′
Tremulant (entire organ)
Cymbelstern
Vogelgesang
Couplers:
RP/W on keydesk - shove
W/P
RP/P
Optional wind stabilizers
Optional manual (by foot pedals) winding
Tuning: Kirnberger III, A 440
Manual compass 56 notes
Pedal compass 30 notes
Total of 2,511 pipes
Organ design mainly after 1680’s Schnitger.

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15 окт 2024

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@kevinklingner3098 3 года назад

This is a beautifull instrument. It has the lovely German tones I love so well without the harshness many others have. The voice is very clear that even a tone deaf person should be able to follow.

@pauljames5914 2 года назад

If I'd have known you were in Wisconsin, I'd have invited you to come play my home pipe organ.!

@bpowell875 4 года назад

You're living my dream life lol. I'm a 19 year old organist, organ tuner, oboist and pianist. I'd love to travel and work with these instruments as a living. You have great content! Keep making videos.

@samuelwessel2175 Год назад

I now regularly play this instrument and this, along with your other videos showing your registrations on North German instruments have helped me a lot. I am curious about if there is a reason to use or not use the 3' HW Nasard with the HW Mixtures in a full principal chorus, I've gone both ways but notice you deciding to not use the 3' at the last second towards the end of the video with full organ. Thanks for your help!

@bkarosi Год назад

Because the Nasard is usually a flute-scaled stop. Great plenum needs a Quinte not a Nasard

@lewismessinger2532 2 года назад

Ich war heute schoen im Himmel. Vielen dank!

@TheJohn1567 3 года назад

Enjoyed the trip!

@saxachewon8062 4 года назад

It has a mildly uneven temperament, much like myself.

@gregfolland8452 4 года назад

@Carson Myers - 😂😂😂👍

@donaldlampert331 4 года назад

Very nice! Sorry to miss you when you were in Wisconsin.....

@dkbvi 3 года назад

Thanks for the demonstration!

@KarlchenvomDorrenberg 6 лет назад

The Plenum at the end reminds me astonishingly of the Plenum of the Scherer-Organ in Tangermünde, especially because of the pedal reed. Striking!

@Tillsammmans 6 лет назад

Dear Balint, thanks for sharing this wonderful organ demonstration. Best, Stephan

@chrisrose6200 4 года назад

I’m not a musician and can’t even read music. But I listen to any organs, although some said that this organ has some weakness, I find the sound of this instrument very clean and precise. Really great and I preferred it to the Arnstadt organ.

@asheland_numismatics 4 года назад

This is awesome!

@user-xxxxxn 4 года назад

beautiful instrument.

@fnersch3367 6 лет назад

Nice demo. Thanks.

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo 4 года назад

This organ has a very poor wind supply. it is quite wobbly and unstable. They need to add more weights to the swell bellow

@mrstevebournias 6 лет назад

voicing on this organ is unusually good for this type of replica

@maciejkramarski3727 5 лет назад

That's true. Sounds really like a 17th-cent. organ, not too much "neobarock". The unequal temperament is also very good and adequate. Greetings from Poland!

@joannescouchet7038 4 года назад

This organ makes me feel a bit conflicted - very beautiful sounding, but the brightness of the mixtures seems a bit overdone, even for a real Schnitger. Is it any better in the room? To be fair, probably the only good references Jaeckel had were the few large Schnitgers that Ahrend had restored by then (Stade, Norden, Lüdingworth), instruments like Hamburg or Groningen were still not available yet. I think the Stanford Fisk sort of has a similar problem - the mixtures sound very present, but also a little "flat". From that "school" of American organs of that time I've encountered, only Brombaugh and Noack organs don't have this problem. But also makes examples like Göteborg, done just a decade later, really amazing. Also the work of Americans like Taylor & Boody, Fritts, Richard and Fowkes etc.

@bkarosi 4 года назад

Thanks for this! This organ was voiced by Halbert Gober.

@joannescouchet7038 4 года назад

@@bkarosi Interesting, I've never played or heard a Hal Gober organ before!

@Tom-Lahaye 5 лет назад

This is a real good replica, I love the sound of every stop on this organ and it sounds like the old North German organs indeed, with the slight out of tune sometimes

@raulreyesortiz1732 5 лет назад

Diese Orgel klingt so gut, genau wie eine deutsche Orgel.

@pantoauf4027 5 лет назад

The krummhorn Sounds like a Regal

@farahmohammed1963 4 года назад

Always a pleasure to watch your presentations, Balint! How much time do you need to familiarize yourself with all these stops? You seem so well-versed with every organ you play. How do you know to use all these different combinations on all these different instruments? It’s amazing!! Thank you!🌺

@KravchenkoAudioPerth 5 лет назад

Interesting, a little temperamental on the wind available. Arguably that was something Pappa Bach himself sought to have plenty of.

@peterkrauss2590 6 лет назад

super

@tjpj111 3 года назад

Surely it might be better to demonstrate individual stops before combinations? It was difficult to get an idea of what was going on.

@RainerSchulz449 5 лет назад

Ich bin beeindruckt.

@jrzzrj 5 лет назад

Beautiful organ....but is is practical for today's worship standards? A stop-pulling assistant will always be needed for complicated pieces....

@bkarosi 5 лет назад

J.R. Zippie it is much better musically than most “standard” organs. You cannot play Vierne or Widor of course but there is much old and modern repertoire for this instrument

@jrzzrj 5 лет назад

@@bkarosi ---Maybe one day you will be fortunate to have a registrant like Gert Von Hoef (he ended up marrying her-and now has a son)......😁

@andre26071955 5 лет назад

@@bkarosi and you can always improvise...

@andre26071955 5 лет назад

i do not see the need of one or more registrants as a disadvantage...

@stevenbartley6088 5 лет назад

I think not. Sounds very nice, unlike so many of the neoclassic organs, built from the 50s-90s. I would not want to sacrifice all the great church music which wants a 19th century sound, but then in today's world, so few churches actually do real church music. The 4 hymn sandwich has taken a strong hold, not to mention much of the service music, or communion settings been substituted with hymns.......Then there is the bouncing ball on the jumbo tron.

@Tom-Lahaye 4 года назад

Nice replica of a North German organ, which must be my favorite style of organ. Like the miss spelled "trommet" at the trumpet stop, which should be "trompete"in correct German writing.

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo 4 года назад

No. Centuries ago a trumpet / trompet / trompete was mostely called trommet especially when refering to an organ stop.

@rowenerickson319 2 года назад

No, in 17th & 18th century german organ building, the usual trumpet stop is called Trommet.

@MrKmoconne 5 лет назад

I wanted to see the organ case next time, okay?

@jeffwhite4227 4 года назад

www.pipeorganlist.com/Organ_Webpages/Wausau,_WI,_Salem_Lutheran,_Jaeckel.html

@MrKmoconne 3 года назад

@@jeffwhite4227 Thank you!

@williammitchell1864 4 года назад

When he knocked over the candle, picked it up and says the organ also has candles, That's how I am sometimes (turning something accidental into something goofy)

@danielwaitzman2118 3 года назад

At last!-an organist who knows how to articulate the notes, so that we hear something more meaningful than a generalized mashed potato sound. Bravo!

@urbanviii6557 6 лет назад

Is the ordering of your Hungarian name the Hungarian way or the European, American way?

@andre26071955 5 лет назад

I don't see the name of the maker of this gorgeous instrument in the description...

@andre26071955 5 лет назад

Thanks for the reply, I'll take a look at his website!

@walterarchibald1318 5 лет назад

TUNE IT!

@normastevlingson1659 5 лет назад

It is in an unequal temperament!

@kevinklingner3098 3 года назад

It is in tune but has an in equal temperament. This would come down to the wind I would guess. It is common in many north German organs. Bach as and organ consultant is said to have over come this issue by adding more wind to counter act this issue.

@vanni9283 4 года назад

The trumpet sounds more like reeds to me.

@WinrichNaujoks 5 лет назад

Well, there's flexible wind support, but then there's wheezing like on this organ. Germans would call this "windsüchtig". It sounds awful when the notes drop down to their knees with every chord you play.

@angiev6835 4 года назад

0:50

@benschroth7717 5 лет назад

The floating camera is making me sea sick.

@kirchenstuck1236 4 года назад

No doubt this is a good instrument. But: „… often used by Bach“ Bach played on this type of organ very rarely. In the region in wich he lived, a very different style was common, e.g. like the organ in Waltershausen ru-vid.com?sp=mAEB&search_query=waltershausen+orgel

@balazsvigh9758 2 месяца назад

lübecker marienkirche historische große orgel klang

@ScoG33 4 года назад

I will never understand why someone wants such bright mixtures! Piercing and not in a good way.

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo 4 года назад

It sounds different when you are down in the church on the other end. These sharp mixtures, cymbels and schaff's are needed when the church is packed like on christmas eve

@danw1955 5 лет назад

I like the sound of this organ, but it seems like it's speaking into too small of a space, and there's not enough air volume to support the number of ranks? I think this may be a case where a virtual pipe organ (Hauptwerk console), might have been a wiser choice, given the size of the place. They could have tailored the reverb to simulate a much larger room, and cut maintenance costs dramatically. A real pipe organ is nice, but they do require constant attention to keep them in tune and operating properly. Unless it's a large church or someone has money to burn, it's not really feasible to install a NEW pipe organ into a small church, especially a historical tracker organ that requires a lot of attention.😉 That being said, thanks for the demo Balint!😁

@HobbyOrganist 5 лет назад

You need to google the church and see the inside photos showing the large space, the poor sound you hear is due to the crummy mic and youtubes quality reduction and file cutting conversio process, plus listening to it artificially over your speakers...

@thebog11 4 года назад

It's impossible to determine how it sounds out in the room, they might be using a cell phone to record this.

@billraty14 6 лет назад

I don't think J.S. Bach would have appreciated the flexible wind.

@urbanviii6557 6 лет назад

A long time ago. I don't think he ever wrote down a condemnation of it. He did write that when he "proved" a large new organ as a consultant, that he required it to have sufficient wind. No wheezing. If you're going to have a 32' organ, a huge wind supply is needed. Otherwise, he would not have approved of it.

@andre26071955 5 лет назад

@@urbanviii6557 In those days full organ consisted all principal stops including mixtures and reeds. Flute-stops were left out because of their wind consumption (wide scaling).

@urbanviii6557 5 лет назад

@@andre26071955 True.

@bkarosi 5 лет назад

After having played in Arnstadt I am not so sure about a pure principal plenum on Thuringian organs. On North German and Dutch organs yes. Arnstadt had six 8' stops on the OW. Bach grew up on that instrument and he certainly pulled more than the principal chorus for the plenum...

@urbanviii6557 5 лет назад

@@bkarosiHow do we know this, and can you prove it?

@Dutchcaniac 4 года назад

I’m sorry this is a bad sounding organ. I’ve heard better 17th century style organs. The gedackt 8 of the first manual is one of the better sounding register.

@bobh5087 5 лет назад

I'd much prefer a Klais or Taylor and Boody, etc. I don't see the point of installing such a *limiting and quirky instrument* in a church, where a church organist/recitalist should be able to play from a *wide and varied repertoire* spanning centuries. Better in an academic/teaching institution, this awkward, mannered, and pretentious instrument.

@hape3862 5 лет назад

Cretin

@HobbyOrganist 5 лет назад

This is what they wanted, not a Wicks...

@thebog11 4 года назад

I see your point, but the church is Lutheran. So it's an appropriate denomination for something like this. I wouldn't want to play it either every Sunday, but I would like to have a go (after it was tuned).

@bobh5087 4 года назад

@@thebog11 Yes, you're correct. And the tuning seems to be the main problem.

@thebog11 4 года назад

@@bobh5087 Sorry to seem dense, but do you mean the tuning *scheme* is the problem? Or just the fact that the reeds and double trebles are out of tune?