Demons | D&D Monster Lore | The Dungeoncast Ep.43 

Killing a Balor by throwing it off a cliff? Would you then say that you smote its ruin upon the mountainside?

5 lv 20's enter the abyss to conquer an abyssal level, they become corrupted, then turn on each other and the last survivor becomes a Demon Lord. Now that is a Bad Ass one off adventure idea!

I just want to take this moment to say that when I said "Demures" I meant to say "Lemures". Sorry folks.

I think my favorite part of this podcast is Will's reactions to Brian's crazy analogies.

Everybody forgets the goristro.... poor goristro...

Hey gentlemen, I just have a request for these awesome videos...I was wondering if when you're discussing monsters, demons, characters, etc., if you could either A) show a picture from the monster manual or various other guides, or B) put the name of the monster/demon/character on screen to make it easier for people like me to Google for context. Thank you, fellas! Keep up the good work!!

love the video, but just to rectify: rangers can select fiends as their favourite enemies. Both the revised and the PHB ranger :)

I love the beginning theme you guys made for this. Hahaha

Basically the way I always seen the abyss and baator is it's like there is so much power created that is there forever, and it just keeps respawning them

I am curious. ...since devils were created to destroy demons if someone could become a warlock with a pact to the Devils specifically to fight demons. Then, he won't become a Lemure but become something higher up like a horned devil so they can continue their fight against demons after their death. I came up with this thought when dealing with a character who did not care for gods and hated demons. So she, as a rogue fought demons but got corrupted. could a devil get corrupted by demons?

About that possession: Remember what you said about corruption-even if the victim manages to drive the demon out- body and soul- the longer they were possessed the deeper the corruption, The victim is changed permanently

The music in your show is amazing. I get pumped up when I start your episodes

The game seems to be based around resistance. Fiends resist all except radiance, for example.

I feel like the reason (which may appear obvious to some) Demons are so difficult to “handle” or RP as a DM is because they are so completely and utterly unrelateable, not because there aren’t actual people in the world who would fit that alignment, but because there’s no realistically conceivable way a being of such absolute evil and chaos could even function. Even the Joker, who was referred to in this episode as an example of CE, was still “lawful” enough in the mind to make grand plans, organize people to act and work together to an extent, and frankly desired to CONTROL things as a tyrant which is more in long with Devils and LAWFUL evil. Demons on the other hand are so immensely destructive, impulsive, hateful and an absence of redeeming relatable qualities that all they tend to function as in a game is just an adversary, with absolutely no other intent than to watch the world burn (had to say that). By nature they can’t work with anyone out of cooperation, and will only end up working alongside other beings out of fear from more powerful entities who have forced them to do their bidding. That’s virtually all there is to Demons (though that by no means they’re stupid or simple - they just have simple motives but can be fascinating and sophisticated in their own right).

Hey Dungeoncast, I know this is like, 5 years later, but you talking about how 5e creatures have "things they aren't resistant to" instead of "weaknesses" got me thinking about an explanation. Could it be that their intention is for these creatures to have double their listed hit points, but it simply didn't work out with the way creature hit points are generated (a combination of size, Constitution score, and the CR system)? So we end up with a Balor that has 262 hit points and resistance to cold, lightning and physical damage from nonmagical weapons, immunity to fire and poison - rather than a Balor with 524 hit points with vulnerability to acid, force, necrotic, psychic, radiant, thunder, physical damage from magical weapons.

No ghost was a great movie but what got me scared as a little kid and watching at the movie theater those Shadow demons.

A question I've yet to have answered, buy anyone worth their dice in D&D lore, did the devil's transform into their current state from Angels because of their exposure to the abyss, demons or their own evil actions and machinations?

The demons don't sleep? No wonder why they're so angry all the time. My girlfriend is the same way.

The comparison of demons to ants may seem accurate but the ant queen doesnt do much other than passively produce some pheromones and lay eggs. So she is not in power like a demon lord who gives orders, the ant workers figure out what to do on their own based on group behaviours. For example one ant finds some honey so it produces a pheromone track to it, then other ants smell it and follow it to the honey. They also leave a track. Eventually they will transport all of the honey to their anthill, so there wont be anything left to pick up and the ants who are still following the track will stop reinforcing it by ceasing to produce those pheromones. Some time later the track will disappear. So in a sense ants are like one hand just not as much centralized

Damn son, love your content

The way they described the abyss remind me of Huaco Mundo from bleach. 1 percent of hollows that become cannibals that transform, and 1 percent of those transforms and so on as you get millions of lower ones and eventually one super powerful ruler.

“Vrocks have big ass-claws”, you say? So weird - very appropriate for a demon.

1:50 Shout-out to Demi Moore(gon)

Ya it's like the abyss has so much certain power, hen they go into the prime material plane and get more xp points

Wow, so a high level Lawful Good PC (with some help) can conquer a level of the Abyss and thus become a demon lord?! 😲

that thing behind Light isn't a demon, it's a death god. (lesser spirit in ranking, but most of the spirituality considers everything supernatural a god/demon; and demons aren't evil incarnate in the sector of belief, merely anything supernatural that isn't attributed to a deity) [I should probably use past tense]

Seems like the Abyss and Demons are similar to the Warp and Daemons from Warhammer.

Those shadow devils from ghost would be shadow devils in dnd. He was a bad man so his bad deeds were having consequences coming back to him for his wickedness. Devils are ambitious and he did it for money

Hey guys. Love the show. Wanted to tell you that I think that dndbeyond sounds out the names for you.

Yea, the combined forces of gods and devils cannot stop the demons from taking over the world… but there are some beings who can: overpowered munchkin min-maxing Monty Haul super characters! 😉

I was wondering, as a dm, how many alternate plot lines should I have for player based choices?

You forgot my boy yenogu 🙁

This is probably pre mordenkainen but the molydeus is a step above a balor since they work directly with the demon lords

Since the abyss is infinite layers of chaos are there more demonic equivalents of planes based on all 26 inner planes plus elemental chaos then demonized? (like winds of pain to parody the air plane or a place that's like the frost fell but looks more like carcari etc.)

Curious. Demogorgon vs Tiamat. Let's say it's not on eithers home plane. Who wins?

The goats of d&d

he is a Shinigami witch means god of death in most translations

I got sad when I learned that the Abyss can't be destroyed and will eventually destroy all things.

Need to read up on some lore. I just started a new campaign with a new DM, curse of strahd with some home brew stuff like random mutations. After my first session I was given 4 random mutations from a table. I rolled 66, some other number and two 100s. Don't know what system he used by he told me I became a "pseudo demon". I think it's his term. And has told me over the next in game week I will gradual mutate. I will lose my eyes, nose and ears but my senses with increase, I will develop a spicked tentacle for a left arm, I will grow wings and my skill will glow. I also will develop large breasts. I was a big, male teifling paladin. I knew he's homrbrewing it but I'm new to dnd so I think I should know standard demon lore and I'll assume it's relevant untill he corrects me.

There are Stranger Things than Demogorgon :)

I wonder if Rakshasa fit into demons or Devils or are like Succubi or Incubi and are simply Fiends that stand outside of the Demon/Devil groups

Just saw IT part 2. And I’d say a cultist of a demon lord would look a lot like the kid who liked Pennywise.

Welcome back

No palenight episode?

What about Yugoloths could they become demon lords the neutral evil things that come from Gahanna.

You shall not pass!!!!

Are your podcasts available on pandora?

To me chasme are just big mosquitos

The size of a basketball? ever been to Australia mate? that's barely bigger then average.

I tried this podcast again. I like it, but there's just too many interuptions. 6 commercials plus a "rest" and a 2 minute intro is too much. Good luck guys.

Death not there called oni meaning neither good or evil just like d&d characters . Ryuk is in the death note series is a God of death.

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Let's get this video to 666 likes

lol Chaotic evil PB. It puts the lotion on the skin. Hahahahahaha

The guy on the right really needs to shut up and let the guy trying to teach him, teach him. And his little references arent funny, either. Mostly because theyre usually wrong or dont make sense. Probably because hes too busy thinking of something to say, rather than listening.

So dude in the hat's only role is to derail, distract, and interrupt? Contribute nothing of any value to the conversation? I don't get it. Why is he even a part of this? I want to listen to this but he ruins it. Boo

Are there ANY books that deal with Asmodeus as more than a Mention, or a 'chapter' like one thats driven or highly about him in story form?