Denafrips Ares 12th-1 R2R converter

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Due to its 12th anniversary Denafrips has issued an upgraded version of the Ares DAC, the 12th. I looked at the current dash one version.
Contents of this video
00:00 - Introduction
00:19 - Start of program
01:00 - Where to use
02:38 - The front
04:02 - The rear
05:19 - The inside
06:43 - In use
08:23 - R-2R versus low-bit
11:48 - How tested
13:10 - Sound quality
13:48 - The wrap
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@RAMIRO61FERNANDES 7 месяцев назад

Excelent review. Detailed. Phenomenal! 👏💯

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

Much appreciated!

@barrybrennan2135 6 месяцев назад

Thank you, Hans - your reviews are always considered, informative and excellent all round.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 месяцев назад

Glad you like them!

@yukinok25 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for this review. I wanted to try an R2R DAC and I bought the Ares12th-1 a couple of months ago. Honestly I didn't expect this sound quality. I can't stop listening music, the instruments sounds so real and the soundstage is indeed very deep. Its currently connected to a Denon receiver through rca. Next upgrade would be a stereo amplifier with XLR inputs.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

Enjoy the music!

@cobar5342 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for a great review Hans

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

My pleasure!

@earthoid 7 месяцев назад

I bought the Ares 12th-1 two months ago mostly to bypass the DAC built into my Parasound HINT integrated amp because I was getting ear fatigue after fairly short listening sessions. The cost of the Ares was as much as I was willing to spend because I wasn't sure that it would make much of a difference. Boy was I wrong! The 12th-1 brought the music back to the point that I was in tears listening to some of my favorite music. Now that I know how good some digital music can sound (like analog to my ears) I am now considering an upgrade by adding the Denafrips IRIS DDC reclocker for about half the cost of the Ares.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing

@t.glenn.marshall 7 месяцев назад

I had a similar experience when i heard the Ares II. I later purchased the Iris and I am very happy with the combination.

@earthoid 7 месяцев назад

I ordered the Iris on black Friday!

@stanyjanicki5314 7 месяцев назад

Hi Hans ´do you plan to test the different versions of software that Denafrips provide?

@simonwang4222 4 месяца назад

How music sounds with this DAC vs a decent vinyl? (I mean through similar price record player) I am just wondering whether a great DAC can outperform pure analog.

@uterpia 5 месяцев назад

Thank you

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 месяцев назад

You're welcome

@GRAAmusic 7 месяцев назад

I have a cheap setup with a chomecast audio, ares 1, ifi tube buffer and a smsl da-8s, jamo c809. I enjoy the music

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

👍🏼

@marcocastronuovo1480 7 месяцев назад

I always look forward to your new Friday videos You mentioned the phase button, how should it be set? The room can affect the phase Thank you and congratulations for your Professionalism

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

Good question!. It's not phase, it's polarity that in hom audio wrongly is called phase. The idea is that for instance a recorded bass drum sound starts with the woofer moving outward, just like the drum skin. The problem is that each amplifier stage innverts the polarity. So if the recording channel passes through an uneven number of amplifier stages, the polarity is reversed. But the same goes for your stereo. Just try it.

@ebbytes 7 месяцев назад

I am looking forward to your arce review

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

👍🏼

@wyup 7 месяцев назад

Did you notice its high output impedance? 625 Ω on RCA and 1250 Ω on XLR in spite of the two AD opamps buffer. It can create problems with 10 kΩ pot preamplifiers. For example, a regular 10 kΩ single-ended pot has a 1/4 worst case at -6 db, 2.5 kΩ. 2500/625 is a 3:1 ratio, far from a 10:1 minimum recommended impedance bridge. Usually RCA out is around 200 Ω.

@rosswarren436 7 месяцев назад

Does this mismatch in impedance account for some saying the Ares sounds "soft" and not so good in bass?

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

That's why I don't like passive 'amplifiers'. I had no problems.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

Only when using passive amplifiers (volume control (variable resistor) in a box without further electronics.

@user-mu2dp9hg4o 7 месяцев назад

Neutrik make a range of in-line audio transformers that can be used to help with impedance matching.

@rosswarren436 7 месяцев назад

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelwould that imply that most powered preamps, even vintage ones from the 1980s, would in most cases not have an issue with the output impedance of the Ares 12th - 1?

@DaMaxchi 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for a great review. As an alternative to your suggested components in the "Where To Use Section" of your video, I believe one could digitally connect a CD player to a streamer/DAC, like the Eversolo DMP-A6 and eliminate the need of the Denafrips. Assuming no other digital sources will be used, which component configuration would yield the best sound quality? I ask this question because I'm considering the Eversolo and Denafrips components but am wary of the DAC overlaps. Perhaps, it all depends on my budget. Did I answer my own question? Thank you again!!!

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

👍🏼

@mikemajors2385 7 месяцев назад

It would have been nice if you would have gone into detail on the sound differences between the Ares 2 vs 12.1. I appreciate the review.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

Noted!

@ron521 6 месяцев назад

How does the sound compare between the single ended outputs vs the balanced outputs. My amp only has single ended RCA input connections.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 месяцев назад

There is only a limited difference.

@AKSIFAR 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for your review. I am thinking of getting this. Just wanted to check this eco system with you - Chromecast Audio(tidal) + Denafrip Dac + Marantz NR 1200 + Audes 116. Will the Marantz 1200 be able to do justice to the Denafrip Dac? Or I need to upgrade the amp? Thanks!

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 месяцев назад

I'm afraid I have not reviewed the NR1200 so I can't say.

@AKSIFAR 6 месяцев назад

Thanks Hans. Will let you know if I end up buying the DAC.

@williammoningka8080 5 месяцев назад

Hi there, great review! I’m very i terested with the ares 12th-1 but i’m wondering about the latency because i will connect it to my computer and there will be a lot of watching movies but i can’t seem to find the answers for the latency itself Thankyou for the review!

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 месяцев назад

I don't test on latency so I can't say. Sorry.

@mortenchristensen1613 7 месяцев назад

Hey Hans. Thanks for great content. Question. Can this dac handle output from my Denon dcd-1520ae. Sacd player ? You do not mention it in the video ?

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

You can use it for CD but not for SACD

@huubme 6 месяцев назад

Can you explain shortly why no SACD is possible? @@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel

@leach720 7 месяцев назад

Hello Hans, will you still have possession of the Ares 12th when you review the Arce? Seems logical to assume they'll be used together by customers.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

Yes, I will use them together

@ivar3146 3 месяца назад

Thank you for the review. I'm confused by the term "network bridge" in the "Where to use" section of your video. You show the "bridge" connected to the DAC via I2S(?). My streamer (Wiim Pro) does not have an I2S connection. Do I need to incorporate a "network bridge" that has an IS2 connection (like an IRIS?) if I wanted to use an internet source, CD player, and TV with the Denafrips?

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 месяца назад

I²S is one of the ways to connect a DAC. You can use the Ares with the WiiM with a SPDIF (RCA) cable.

@jeffkalina7727 7 месяцев назад

How about a review of your current playlist??

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

What playlist. You can find several on Tidal and Qobuz

@NeilBlanchard 7 месяцев назад

My only regret is the loss of 2nd coax and 2nd optical inputs on the Ares II.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

I understand

@IvanITpro 2 месяца назад

I think you should do a video explaining what a network bridge is. Every time you mention it, I’m in lala land and have no idea what you’re talking about. 🤔🤷‍♂️ I work in IT and understand quite a lot about audio gear, but have no idea what a network bridge is ... 🤦‍♂️😅 Thx!

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 месяца назад

A whole video? It’s just a bit perfect digital audio output, being either USB, RCA or XLR. See mij review of the SOtM sMS-200.

@slon74 7 месяцев назад

Unfortunately lack of the remote control is a deal-breaker for me

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

I can imagine.

@slon74 7 месяцев назад

@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Back when I was in search for a DAC upgrade, Denafrips would've been my 1st choice only if it had remote since I often change sources So I opted for Topping d70s. Pretty satisfied.

@jos5067 7 месяцев назад

Thanks 🙏 Hans, but there are to many DAC’s already in this world (IMHO), and many are, more or less, the same. Do you agree? Anyhow: I will wait to what Chord Electronics wlll bring to the table at the CES next year, but I have my doubts.

@soulfulfool 7 месяцев назад

dont you think that chord prices are somehow insane high

@jos5067 7 месяцев назад

@@soulfulfoolExpensive, yes, but difficult to judge, because they develop in-house.

@soulfulfool 7 месяцев назад

@@jos5067 personally I would rather to buy expensive amp and dac mid-fi but at the end if someone got enough cash for everything to be top quality I say why not :)

@rosswarren436 7 месяцев назад

@@soulfulfool lots of work (expense) done optimizing and tweaking the software in their FPGA to create the best sound possible. Most say their TT2 is a holy grail at its price point with the Mojo2 offering a great value. I still don't like their "Fisher Price" toy look at these prices. They shouldn't look like something you'd let your 3-year-old play with.

@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 месяцев назад

I own a Chord DAVE. I wonder what nonsense you all would say about that.😄