Denoising your Footage: Neat Video vs Denoiser II 

I'm a NeatVideo user and it's saved my footage countless times. For the price it's great.

Whoa...From 0:13 - 0:19 that sounded like one long blur of a word to me. My brain doesn't go fast enough for that auctioneer shit, man. It sounded like I was fast-forwarding through an old cassette tape.

ive watched this video twice.. the first time i stared at your shirt the whole time but then the 2nd time i was thankfully more productive and stared at your shirt the whole time

I bought Denoiser II from RedGiant couple years ago. I didn't need it back then, but I'm one of those who buy stuff for the purpose of buying stuff. I tested it out and thought it was kinda cool. Reducing noise aint a bad thing. Some time ago we used Panasonic GH4 attached to MÖVI M5 for the first time. In the spirit of run'n'gun no testing before the first shoot, yeah I know this is the moment where dumb da da di dumb score starts to play. We usually shoot with Nikon D4 and D800 and for some weird reason I really really like the way videos come out from Nikon's. So GH4 as our main camera... settings... run... and gun... It was run'n'gun from lighting to way we shot the video. Nikon's footage looked great as usual. We once shot a production without additional lights indoors and a rep from a huge globally known film production company asked what kind of lights we used. And as I responded "none" she was stumped. Anyways the first time when I looked at GH4 footage from the shoot I became terrified. Last time I saw the same amount of noise was back in the 8MM/VHS days, and I was 15 years old kid back then shooting horrible videos. Probably not that much noise, but you get the idea. I dropped RG Denoiser II in and the outcome was = unusable footage.... Then I remembered Neat Video from this particular Film Riot episode. Ryan didnt say that Neat Video was super great or way better than RG's Denoiser, so I didnt believe it would change anything, but atleast I could try.... To my total surprise Neat Video was able to remove the noise, not only reduce but remove it almost completely. RG Denoiser only removed the tiniest particles but it definately did not deliver anything usable. The problem with "hardcore" noise with RG Denoiser is that it removes the noise well, when your looking a single frame, but once you start to play the video the video may and most often starts to have new problems. Solid colors look crap etc. Neat Video delivered solid results. So if your in a situation where you have footage beyond RG Denoisers repair. Try Neat Video instead. RG Denoiser II makes videos look neat, Neat Video can possibly save you from a noisy disaster.

I just realised Film Riot has the greatest community I've seen; after viewing PewDiePie's video stating that he is disabling comments due to crappy comments. No haters. No spammers. Just a pure community...

Just want to note that you can get far better results from Neat by profiling your camera at different ISO settings and working more with the advanced settings. For instance, the compression macro blocking could have been removed. I've found that if you take the time learn Neat and to profile your camera, it's quite a bit better than DeNoiser II.

Things totally overlooked in NEAT video: 1. Temporal Filter - scans ahead and back up to 5 frames for much cleaner result 2. Very low frequency checkbox - ideal for dark areas and the large blobby stuff that is prominent IN THIS EXAMPLE!! 3. Manual selection of noise profile - full auto profiling is never as good as manually creating a profile using multiple samples from different parts of the frame. I'd like to see this comparison done again taking those settings into account!

Perfect timing for this video. Thanks for breaking it down!

a7s + neat = you ever dont care its day or night lol :D

VLC does a pretty good job at denoising videos too. To do that go to Tools > Effects and Filters > Video Effects > Advanced > Denoiser. Then you can Convert/Save.

Thank you so much for this video!!! It's like you read my mind!

AWESOME VIDEO...thank you.

Thanks for your helpful entertaining vids, keep em coming :D

Thanks! Thought I was going to have to reshoot a 30min interview but Neat Video did the trick. +1

Just what I needed! Thanks!

Thanks. Matter fact, I'm going to Full Sail University now and it's great. This video helped me realize that the Magic Bullet was a great first choice plugin!

i use neat video for every single one of my videos and i highly recommend it

Great. Thanks for this. I did not fully understand how to use Neat Video before I watched this.

Great video, I've been using Denoiser for a while now and I'll admit that I rarely go into the advanced features. I usually just drop and boost the percent a bit. I'll have to take a look at that Dark Energy.

Awesome work buddys!

I just dropped Denoiser II on a shot I'm working on, and holy mother of god does it work wonders. Im very impressed.

Really good video. Thanks for the helpful info!

Lovin the shirt Ryan!

I literally just googled for this yesterday. You guys are mind readers lol

Great Video as usual thanks !

Yes ryan has a new shirt this time! 🙌

This should have been resized and uploaded to 4k! The 1080p bitrate makes an actual comparision a bit hard, since the whole video has blocky noise, especially for dark areas.

I find adding your own film noise after hides the smudgy look some what.

Hey Ryan, after playing the newest Sherlock Holmes game I am CERTAIN: Dr. Watson is the perfect role for you to play as an actor. :)

"low budget cameras" RED cameras have tons of noise lol

Love that Rocket Shirt!

Love the Rocket shirt! Guardians of the Galaxy was epic!

Sweet video, could this be used on gopro footage in low light to make gopro a bit more useable? Thanks in advance.

Nice tutorial! Thanks!!

Oh my god I love your shirt ryan

Neat Video worked flawlessly for us.

I love that GOTG t-shirt!

I didn't catch a single word from the host in between "welcome" and "DSLR" lol. Thanks for the comparison though.

Should have an update on denoiser software! There are tons of options on the market now 🙂

Nice! I just tried out Neat Video and a fairly cheap (30$ I think) Denoiser for Final Cut Pro X. With Neat Video, you can additionally tweak the settings by selecting not just one but several areas in your image, to have noise profiles over varying degrees of luminance, that will really improve your image even more. You can also set the number of frames it interpolates from in time, which will get rid of some of the flickering and wavy stuff. But I agree that Neat Video tends to give a soft and partially blocky look to the image.

I didn't even want a Guardians Of The Galaxy shirt until I saw Ryan's Rocket Raccoon T-Shirt! You are making me spend money Ry Guy, ha ha! And great tutorial as always... (And when does Bloodtober start?) Thanks!

Hey Ryan i have a question. What is workflow with noise reduction? Do you correct colors first then grade, noise reduction and then back sharpening? Or hoy do you start?

Pricing is very different today. Denoiser is 199 and Neatvideo is $75

always helpful

You guys oughta do a new 2024 update on this lol

danm! you are the best.... god bless u

I have both, "Neat Video" is by far the better denoiser. It really can save some footage, and give professional look to it.

Hey Ryan I was wondering how you drop some one down a flight of stairs and shows them tumbling down with killing the actor or giving him brain damage. Luv the show dude

That shirt is awesome. :D

I was afraid denoising software would erase Josh. Then I realized it was video noise, not audio noise.

love the shirt

im so surprised josh wasn't making any noise today huh!

I wish Denoiser could available for FCPX, which is the soft I use most of the time, because I prefer Red Giant product and when I work on Premiere it's very useful when I have to adjust noisy footage

This is the first episode that didn't have the green screen "fringe" around Ryan. How did you guys fix it? Did you do something different? I always struggle getting rid of it.

I'd love to know how you got the footage starting at 1:36. It looks gorgeous.

I tried using the Red Giant Denoiser, but it keeps dropping frames on my export.

you probably should have posted this at 4k so we can get a better bitrate to even see the noise and reduction properly.

Post the winners of the Monday challenge man!

What camera is he using?

RY GUY! Denoisers are in many cases an absolute must in DSLR green screening. From my experience Neat Video has saved my behind so many times, but I'm curious if denoiser will be better due to that sensitivity. Would you pleash enlighten uz? :)

Ryan, when does bloodtober start?

I was wondering how much if any of a difference in render times you had between denoiser II and neat video?

I would say you didn't really use all the power of crazy tweaking in Neat Video. There's much more advanced settings than in Denoiser and sometimes it can help very much. But Denoiser is simpler, so choose what's up to you - simplicity or power ;)

thank you soo much

Hey film Riot i know you have done a speedster effect befor but i was wondering how you would do it from the speedsters point of view? like when Quick Silver was running and every one around him was slow?

Like your shirt :)

Today, you should try NEAT VIDEO 4. The result is x100 way better and faster than NEAT VIDEO 2 and 3.

Hey Ryan, will there be a BLOODTOBER this year ?

So when you're using either trial of the softwares, do you have to use them in After Effects or can it work in something else? Thanks

How does RU-vid's upload compression affect the video, especially in relation to film noise?

ryan, can you make a diy dolly that goes in a circle? if not what is the best way to get a shot circling a subject?

I suggest you try noisy videos where there's a lot of motion. That's where I found that Reg Giant failed in giving any good result. Neat Video has a a good algorythm that spans across multiple frames. Furthermore, I found Neat Video to be much faster when you've got multiple GPUs, as it is very efficient at spreading it's load across all configured ressources.

you said you always denoise your image, what does that mean? do you do that to all of your clips or only to the ones that have visible noise? thankyou!

I've run into some crazy horrible glitches when using Red Giant Denoiser II. Sometimes it would distort an image, flipping and inverting it, and when I tried to use it on a picture lock as a final step it would replace the last frame of every clip with a black frame, which is unacceptable. Anyone else run into such problems?

imho only reasonable(or rather complementary) alternative to neat video is Revision FX DE:Noise(it has 2 algoritms). Neat is best(details/speed) at 2-3 frames compare(with sample denoising turned off cause it makes footage blurry), DE:Noise'rs are best for light noise situations when Neat is overdenoising (if you loosen default settings). Mixing both can save some heavy noise shots, as DE:Noise'rs hande also this floating that Neat leaves in this video.

Cr and Cb are color difference channels in YUV. They are not red and blue channels. DigiBeta is an example of this component video scheme using a 4:2:2 digital sampling at 90 Mbps.

Ryan, you should have checked out the Neat Video Tutorials, they explain how to get a way better result. There is more you can do!

I am having trouble finding the past video you mention in this video about adding grain back into your shot for a cinema look. Can someone link me the video?

CAN I USE THESE 2 PROGRAMS ON HITFILM?

Having used both, I prefer Neat Video.

i got denoiser 2 for premium pro but the thing becomes unresponsive or crashes when i use it. The computer is definitely strong enough to use it. It's a 64 bit Windows 7 with 6 gb ram and 2.4ghz quadcore. I there a solutions for this?

Didn't he say you don't really need to go to film school in another video? And then he's plugging a film school in this one, lol!

under how much noise level is it unworthy to reduce noise ? Because I see examples for 15 noise level and it really worth it, but on my side, I have 1.8, it takes a lot of time and I'm wondering if it worth it

Hey quick question, I'm using the Neat Video demo version on Davinci Resolve and the demo says that it supports frame sizes up to 1280x720 pixels (720p) maximum. However, what happens if I use it on videos that are 1920x1080 pixels (1080p)? At first I thought it would reject my videos because their 1080p but I can actually apply it to my videos and it took out a decent amount of grain away. So does it mean that it could of taken out more grain if it did support 1080p? or maybe something else?

Can we do an updated video of this?

Film Riot!!!! YA!!!

I see this is Denoiser II. Which version of Neat was this? Wondering how Neat 4 holds up against Red Giant.

So.. I got neat video and a 4K video downscaled to 1080P took 1 hour and 20 minutes to render! Is this normal? that's ridiculous!

which one takes the most time to render after applying?

There's a surprising amount of noise in RED footage at or above 1K ISO, so it's not just a DSLR issue. Also, it would be best to not rely on any sharpening done by the plugin as well as do some sort of luminance key to place unfiltered highlights and upper-mids back into the image, since these are the values representing detail and your apparent sharpness. The objectionable noise will be in the under-exposed blacks and lower register of the image. Naively filtering all areas of the image as if this were a uniform issue throws good pixels after bad.

Here we are in 2019, 5 years later. Which denoiser is King now? What say you?

Hello ryan... ^_^ I was thinking if you can make a review on the (( BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera )) .. And thanks a lot for the show ^•^

hey Film Riot , i'm going to purchase neat video plug-in but I'm use premier pro cc crack...is it work ?

denoiser always seemed to never work for me, but NeatVideo never disappoints

Hello sir I have render problem when I am trying to render my 10 minutes clip in premiere pro then it have done within 1 or 2 minut but when I am apply Denoiser in same clip then it take several time that 10 to 15 hours. Is Denoiser heavy effect preset in premiere pro please help? How to reduce export time?

I should probably already know this, but how do you have someone saying a sentence, and the angle switches during the same sentence??

I'm sure you've mentioned this in a previous video, but which camera do you use to record your videos?

If anyone sees this, please help me: I got Denoiser II a little while ago, and it's been a big help until it came to exporting from Premiere Pro. In this case, about 85% of the clips are linked After Effects comps with Denoiser II applied inside of AE. When I try to export the whole thing (3 minutes long), at some point in the process (it happens either right at the beginning or 75% of the way through), it will stop exporting and say "Error compiling movie: unknown error". I will be very upset if this error is unknown to the rest of the internet. I don't want to have to do what I did last time and export the video in 3 separate parts and then recompile it. I've tried exporting countless times and I am very tired. But I know this is because of Denoiser II.

When i press in Neat Video, Setup... in Effects Control i get the message internal error. Any ideas please???

hey rain can you tell me about your camera/video setup