I once had a sore back and took a muscle relaxer and forged through a scheduled hair appt. My hairdresser took a photo of me sleeping at the sink with a product on my hair. I felt betrayed. That it was very unprofessional. I can't imagine what it feels like to have your spouse do that, after you've worked 14 hours . It's a total lack of compassion and support
Many people take photos and video to try to make their loved ones understand how bad their addiction is. Denial is a thick wall. And unless you live with an addict, you can't judge. Most addicts lose their relationships for good reason. they get kicked out of their family homes and become homeless for a reason. Emily is very biased and she's seriously in our ears with her support for JD.
The stark contrast between her tone in the audio/video clips that she recorded versus the ones we heard yesterday that someone else recorded is very telling. My husband used to do that crap to me. He would secretly record me and intentionally speak very calmly, almost sing-song acting like he had no idea what was wrong or why I was acting so "crazy" when in reality, he just got done berating and assaulting me before he started recording. The tone of her voice in the video of him slamming cabinet doors makes me CRAZY.
I have experienced this as well, I couldn't see it when I was in it like its a mental fog, but coming through to the other side of it and looking back you can see that is such an insidious form of manipulation
All evidence only has to be presented and implied to the jury....and they see and know the truth and "his BIG WHITE ELEPHANT" in the Room and dripping with B..
I think all of us that have been in an abusive relationship of sorts can pick up on this as well, and it’s so frustrating to watch her lawyer try to make Johnny look like the bad guy for being abused and self loathing during their relationship.
Its obvious she did the exact same as ur husband...she's been gaslighting him and setting him up & she wants a lot of money for only 2 yrs of marriage. I hope its brought up that she was arrested for violence against a girlfriend (Wikipedia) & the idiot supports the UN fake human rights when everyone knows they're involved in trafficking children!! Just like CPS!! smdh!! Only married 2 years & she's destroyed him...why don't they call up some character witnesses like his ex Winona & French ex...to see if they had these issues with him bc I've never heard them even whisper a bad word about him.
They destroyed their argument after showing so many texts, the first few were for shock, which kinda worked for them but then showing more just proved he always writes flamboyantly no matter the situation and you shouldn’t take the first few texts seriously.
@@felixoupopote The thing is, so far we've only heard Depp's side so everything feels like it favors Depp (whether good or bad). We have to wait until Heard is on the box to really see her side of it and see how Depp's team attacks her statements.
Heard trying to look so pitiful while Rottenborne questions Depp about dipping his finger in paint is funny AF. Like look at me all pitiful over here, feel so sorry for me while he had his finger cut off and is in a mental break writing in his blood and paint. She is just to much lol. To much with her fake oh I've been thru so much, when he's bleeding from a cut off finger. She's too much, trying to gain pity by expression. I'm chuckling at her trying so hard.
Hypothetically, if Johnny Depp were to cut his own finger off for no reason at all. Then why would he use his none dominant hand to cut his middle finger off on his dominant hand? Makes absolutely no sense. I think a lot of their arguments are stupid.
The only argument I could come up with is that he plays the guitar and didn't want to damage his left hand, it's the hand you use on the fret board/strings. For the record I don't believe he cut off his own finger, just playing devil's advocate here.
I broke my leg. I sprained my ankle. I cut myself. That's just how people say it. Its not an admission of guilt or responsibility. Also, him not wanting to disclose the real reason isn't strange. It's incredibly common. This lawyer sucked
Absolutely. It's so common that people lie at the hospital for many reasons, like fear, unpleasantness, etc. Especially being a celebrity, it makes sense that he didn't want to put it all out there at the hospital.
Him not stating the real reason is EXACTLY what victims of domestic abuse do- Protect their abuser. That wasn't the gotcha that attorney thought it was.
@@justanotherrandosub him being a celebrity would make it even worse id think cause then the world would know everything from pictures from journalists. He seems to want to protect her and maybe himself. I think the comments she made in the clip, " go ahead tell the world Johnny, I johnny depp a man was beaten and abused. Go ahead, the judge won't believe you, a jury won't believe u", is probably why he did tried protecting her, and himself by not making accusations
Exactly if he would have said the real reason it could’ve got out to the media and it would have created a massive scandal for Amber and Johnny. Also that’s what victims do I didn’t tell anyone that I had been slashed with a knife by my ex because I was afraid of her reaction.
Cross today was a complete cluster. We get it- JD does drugs and drinks- move on. To be honest, I saw more evidence today that leads me to believe she purposefully staged, recorded, and took pics to 100% set him up and use against him.
I do not understand this argument at all? It is a crucial element to the case which is evident since his team are trying to downplay it. Saying he was abusive when he drank isn't implying all people who drink are abusive. It's alleging that Johnny was abusive. This is also an important element to the case of libel. His problems have been an open secret within Hollywood for years. The Rolling Stone article that came out months before Amber’s op-ed was far more damning then anything she wrote. He became a liability to studios due to his behavior.
Isn't it interesting she claims in one of those recordings leaks 2 years ago that she doesn't want to be painted as a gold digger who plotted and spent years collected evidence against him... curiouser still, that she claimed (I believe, I'm sure someone will correct if I'm wrong) the abuse occurred between 2014-2016 but has evidence from 2013. 🤔💩🤔💩🤔
@@Bianca1001 funny how if you listen to the audios they discuss this. She was why he was always late. Her. She would start a fight and turn it physical. She would cause problems everytime he had somewhere to be.
@@Bianca1001 also evidence of his behavior? You only hear great thing about him from the mouths of people on sets. An article from sources is not evidence. It's rumor.
To mortifyingly embarrass him in front of the world. Why? Because he's defying her by telling the world about her and the very best part, he doesn't want her anymore. I think that one is the real reason.
I live in Virginia and had to do jury duty for a criminal case back in early February. I was on for one day, three hours to be exact. Just got my payment for my service that day, a check fir $30. The trial ended up not happening because the defense was trying to add evidence in last minute that required different expert witnesses, so the poor sherif had to keep us entertained 🤣 he pulls out his phone, hooks it up to the computer in front of us, and goes through the pictures he took of things he found metal detecting. It was so fucking wholesome
Johnny already admitted to lying about his finger so Amber wouldn't be charged. The surgeon also stated there was no way he could have done it to himself. She did this to him.
Hearing the lawyer read "I have other uses for your throat" TWICE left me literally belly laughing for the first time in a LONG time. I wasn't expecting that 🤣🤣 Edit: 02:32:30 is the time stamp if anyone wants it
@@dontstandsoclose right! I think it was only then that the attorney realized the text wasn't literal, lmfaoooo😂🤣 he read sexting into the records as evidence of a crime. OMG🤣🤣🤣
I honestly don’t see how this is helping Heard. As an abuse victim you don’t say “my husband punched me”. You say “I walked into a door” etc it’s only when you become an abuse survivor you can finally speak your truth. JD will never have admitted to physical abuse when he was in the middle of the abuse. Now as a survivor he will tell his truth. Heard’s team have clearly never handled DV survivors or they are completely clueless about DV
So true. It took years after my marriage and 2 years of counseling to be able to say "my husband was physically and mentally abusive to me" I had to get through the shame of it. It's still not easy for me to say even though he has not been physically abusive for almost 12 years but the mental has still not stopped. Probably never will.
The Childrens hospital that Amber said she was going to donate her divorce settlement to has emailed her (the emails were leaked) asking her where the donation is, because she never gave them any money. SHOCKER
she actually has donated but not all in one lump sum, because she hasn't received the money in one lump sum. She only gets it in increments. And now she has legal fees to pay due to Johnny.
After AH announced publicly that she was donating her settlement money, JD directed his accountant to send the money to The Childrens Hospital in her name. She then accused him of not sending her the money and trying to claim the write off.
He paid her the full 7mil 3 years ago almost, and it was only after she'd received all the $ in full that she wrote the op-ed. Even her lawyer admitted in opening she hadn't donated cause she had lawyers fees, but she had the money for more than 6 months before he sued her and she hadn't donated any of it. Maybe $100k to the aclu then worked out to be their spokeswoman for DV so she could keep the rest. Elon even went on to make a donation in her name after it came out she hadn't donated anything.
Being in a relationship with a narcissist can bring on addictions. I became bulimic and started drinking heavily during my marriage to a narcissist. Yes, I had childhood trauma to begin with, but being constantly triggered by insidious and overt abuse can make addictive tendencies way worse. Johnny Depp would never have reached the level of success he achieved in Hollywood if he was as big a mess as Amber makes him out to be.
Coming from an abusive home myself and as a result a lifelong struggle with anorexia and bulimia I agree with you. I would ask ( suggest you consider) that you reframe your 2nd statement going forward, though. Harvey Weinstein was the biggest man in Hollywood and every major actor from Meryl Streep to Gwyneth paltrow to Oprah Winfrey thank him with every award they got. He's now serving time for sex offenses. He did this for decades. Arguing that Johnny Depp couldn't be the star he is if he was a bad person is not a reasonable argument and easily disproven. Look at how long Jeffrey Epstein got away with what he got away with. I'm just suggesting that your first statement was so, strong, accurate and on point that it's a shame that it's somewhat nullified by an easily disproven second argument.
I really hope that this trial will change something..Men are being unfairly treated 8/10 times. Starting off as being guilty and rarely get proven innocents. Whatever women say in court goes and coming from France I am shocked that a restraining order can be obtained only based on words and for a whole year a father can't see his children or has to fight and spend big money and time and all could be avoided with having to bring the burden of proof in order to get TRO's. This trial has the merit to bring to light the unfairness and the damages women or men can do to their partners and how scary it feels to try to even prove your point when you know that you could get arrested or be thrown out of your own house if you don't just accept to be abused and live in a constant nightmare as a 8 month old complaint can be filed and admitted for a TRO.
I had a friend who married a narcissist, and it eventually drove her insane. She became a shell of her former self, but before the complete defeat of her personality, she would engage in the most vile, ugly correspondence with her spouse. The goading, the picking, the bullying was incessant and she cracked under the pressure. Some people are just toxic, and they gleefully bring out the very worst in those around them. I believe this is what happened to Johnny.
I feel this too. I experienced it myself and hated the way I acted in the depths of it. Worked hard ever since to be better. Hopefully Jonny can get there too.
I suffer from cPTSD from living with a narcissistic child abuser my whole life, then moving on to repeating the pattern by marrying an narcissistic abuser, it eventually drove me into moments of non violent rage especially when drinking. I would in return scream back. Ever since leaving the relationship and getting therapy I am a changed person. But I understand that my cPTSD will be with me forever. Childhood trauma literally changes the structure of ones brain. Depp also suffers from cPTSD from the trauma of his mothers physical and mental abuse growing up.
My sister is a narcissist. She could goad me into screaming hateful things at her that I've never considered saying to anyone else before. People who've never lived with a true narcissist can't understand how they "attack" you. They get in your face and will yell at you and push your buttons and they won't stop. This can go on for HOURS. You're not allowed to walk away. They just follow. The conversation doesn't end until THEY decide it ends. They just came at you and at you and at you until you break and scream back something you normally wouldn't say to a person. They just won't stop until they get the reaction out of you they want: which is to break you. Because that gives them the feeling of being in control.
He just wouldn't let up on the drugs and alcohol thing. We get it, Johnny did drugs and was an addict, but this does NOT equate with someone being a violent person. Will they talk about all the drugs that Amber did as well? She was no saint in that regard. This attorney's cross was such a disaster today and he fumbled SO much..actually helped Johnny's case more than Ambers, imo.
I agree. All they proved is that Johnny has a drug/alcohol problem and Amber was filming and recording him in his weakest moments. That looks worse for Amber. Who the hell records someone throwing up.
I have to disagree. The statistics clearly show a correlation between SUD or substance use disorder and violence especially when it comes to IPV or intimate partner violence. It is not an a=b equation where it is a guaranteed outcome but it does increase the likelihood of there being violence. Not taking sides but I do think I see where the attorney may be trying to go with this all. I do understand they both partook in use and thus they both had heightened risk of an increase in violence or violent tendencies. Just wanted to make the statement that drug and alcohol abuse does correlate with an increase in violence.
@@shampaugs6409 she severed his finger and has been trying to destroy him since day one. She is a vile liar. I’m surprised he was so polite about her 😂. I always thought they were as bad as each other and I was never a fan before 🤷🏻♀️. No bias here. I think 98% people out there can see through the bad acting the terrible lies and the gaslighting. Her evidence is non existent.
She did EXACTLY what my ex did to me. He purposely pushed my buttons to the brink of being out of control then gaslight me saying those were my own actions and he did nothing to cause them....ugghhh. I feel for you man.
@@hahatoldyouso So have I. It's not great. I particularly loved when it was pointed out that *I* was the one getting loud, and a little bit "crazy". The term some use for it is "The Water Torturer". Drip drip drip, pick pick pick, and manipulate until your victim finally claps back all the while remaining "calm" (and smug).
That’s the worst, seeing a side of yourself being brought to light that you never knew existed and haven’t seen since that mentally/emotionally/physically abusive partner 😓
My heart is breaking for him. I don’t know how he’s survived this. I would be in absolute hell. bless him, grant him peace and quiet and sobriety and contentment. He deserves it so much.
I was raised by a narcissist, and I heard a term one time saying it's "death by paper cut". So true, little things compounded that are silly to other people but they add up and eventually kill your mental health. I hope the truth comes out in this trial.
As mortified as I am about the dipping the finger in the paint thinner I can kind of understand. When I was 8 I fell over and landed on my wrist and broke it, and in shock for some reason I ran away and started shaking it really hard, ended up having two broken bones and the nurses said they think I just made the break much worse. Imagine on top of that being in a mentally and emotionally shit place and then going into shock, JD doing that kind of shit kinda made sense to me based on the overwhelming situation + shock
Yes this exactly! It’s similar how some abused children will wipe their poo on walls. There’s no logical sense to it, but with Johnny I think he was so overwhelmed with abuse plus the extreme pain he must have been in + adrenaline, he must have been out of his mind. Poor guy.
just to straighten out the story since the defence muddled it all up... he dipped his finger in paint.. the thinners tin was thrown at his head in a seperate incident
@@Kiterpuss i also think he was so over being constantly interrupted and demanded and he kinda snapped. After it happened, she was crying and saying she was sorry to kipper and the nurse and taking responsibility for it. I think everything after was his way of being heard, just in a very cringy way, like he thought she'd get the point if it was written on the wall and she wasable to see it that way when she sobered up . He seems to act out by abusing himself or inanimate objects in his surroundings.
That is so true!!! Using a knife with your non dominant hand would not go well. I think his team was trying to protect both of them and said the kitchen thing to prevent negative media attention.
@@Bianca1001 But it's his dominant hand. Even if he was drunk and going crazy, he would almost certainly hold a knife in that hand, so the likelihood of him cutting a finger off that hand is very low.
I’m at one hour, after watching the last few days of testimony, and how this is coming off is Amber heard‘s team constantly throwing punch after punch after punch and then missing and Depp dodging it every single time. Even if they get in one punch, even if they make some kind of a point, I feel like it’s completely lost in the constantly trying to trap him and his words and in his testimony with things he did not say
As someone who often cut herself to deal with crap, seeing him react to learning about being recorded in such terrible situation actually made my eyes water. It's so vile to do that and use it against him, I'm glad his attorney at least padded him on the shoulder, he really needs it.
Am I the only one that's finding it strange (creepy) that there were so many audio/video recordings of Johnny speaking in various situations? At least when he began to record conversations he told MS. Heard that he was going to be doing it .. hmm .. It's almost as if someone was planning on using certain information at some point .. might have even 'instigated' situations in order to garner certain reactions? ...
He definately said that not only to validate his experience (she would tell him she didn't say or do things often) but also because it's illegal in most states to record someone without their knowledge.
@@truthofthematter9409 Does it feel great using that trendy word 'Toxic"? Maybe just refrain yourself from saying such things when you actually have zero clue of the dynamics of abuse.
Idk why this thought keeps playing in my mind, but with it sure looking like she had been planning this for awhile and was just recording things to make him look bad when he didn't know she was even taping him, I keep questioning why she didn't actually give herself bruises. Like, it seems lazy to try to stage the scene in 2016 by throwing around a bunch of items throughout all the different penthouses and just taking pics of that. She seems like she a spiteful, calculating person that it just shocks me that she didn't have her friend actually throw a phone at her face, so that she did appear to have marks when the cops showed up. I know that's kinda morbid thought to have, but if ur willing to stage the house and break al these things for evidence, why not stage bruises too cause it would've made her claims more believable. Maybe she didn't think it would ever get this far and didn't expect to have to continue dealing with it years later. Probably figured like she said that he was a coward and wouldn't fight back against her so he'd give her what she wanted, but still its a very lazy setup. To call the cops and not even want them to come inside, just wanted to show them being called on the night, idk its crazy to me cause she was leaving so many holes. Maybe she figured she has always gotten away with this bullshit cause she's a young, attractive woman but still. Idk. Its reckless
What about the 2nd time she had cops come to her penthouse that night (2 hrs after)? She didn't expect them to have vest cams for sure! House was IMMACULATE! (Incl. no holes in walls, no kicks in doors, no RED WINE stains in white carpet... not just glass picture frames picked up, etc. That's A LOT of structural work.) Begs question: WHY clean up if you're going to file a police report? But she DIDN'T EITHER time! Just got them to come out... Granted she's in far R corner on a lounge/couch w/ friends but her voice doesn't sound like someone who has a broken nose or even just sinus area damage/pressure - no congestion/"stuffiness". I've been there both professionally & w a friend - I've ALWAYS heard it. Watch the released video on RU-vid. Speaking of suspicious...1. In her "damages photos" - check out "clump of hair". To me, it looks about 3", all even but slightly scattered, but no roots, no scalp, no blood. 2. Look at next day's filming of "Late, Late Nite w/ _____" promoting Ballerina movie. Stop ever once in a while on close-ups with oblique lighting. Yes, you can cover bruising (even tho m-u artist for show said no marks) but how is there NO change to ANY angles on her face??? Things that make you go "hmm"...
He did not say “I head butted you, I bumped you” Emily was right on the money when she said Johnny said “I did not head butt you, I bumped you” listen to it very carefully in headphones all the way up. Johnny was manipulated there by Rottonbottom. That should be stricken off the record. That was not enough time for him to actually hear it.
@@dobnerk Listen to the recording, not Emily’s response but the actual recording in headphones turned all the way up. He did NOT say that! Yes he agreed but it’s not what he said and it’s actually not hard to hear
I've slammed things around like that when I'm angry. But I've never laid a finger on anyone. The solution is just to let him get his anger out and stop antagonizing him. I also know this can trigger trauma responses in some. My own mom and dad did this kind of stuff. Again. Never hit each other. But it can make you wanna tip toe. Not be involved in it.
I underwrite insurance and I think it’s funny that Rottenborn is clutching his pearls at Johnny answering a drug question on an insurance app ‘no’. My dude, breaking news: most people lie about drugs on an insurance application. Welcome to the party.
Just incase anyone is curious, when Depp went on a tangent discussing serotonin and dopamine and how that relates to him taking Ecstacy (rather him NOT taking it), what he was trying to get at was that opiate addicts' brains cease to create those chemicals and those chemicals are how Ecstacy works. The drug dumps all of the brains happy chemicals at once, and if you don't have serotonin/dopamine production it would be pointless to take because it wouldn't work. He took too long to get to the point, but pretty sure that's the point he was trying to make. Sometimes I wish he would step it up a bit when speaking, he can be WAY too measured at times and it gives me anxiety. Lol. Better safe than sorry though, I guess.
I can confirm this. Ecstasy had zero effect on me when I was taking morphine. It just makes you feel sick, gives you a headache & it makes you feel jittery. It's uncomfortable and not fun.
I understand what you,re saying but he does have a stutter which slows him down a bit also? Great point about the seratonin and dopamine! i just heard the verdict .... yay!!!
@@lizzifuller - It wasn't really the speed of his speech, but rather that sometimes he would take the VERRRY scenic route around the point he was trying to make. It gave me great anxiety that at any moment he would be cut off by an objection and would never be able to give his answer and/or make the point. The longer some of his answers went on the more my anxiety grew 🤣. And yes! I am very happy with the verdict as well!!
I agree, that must have been the point he was trying to make but I think that would have been objected on the grounds of lack of foundation anyways, right?
2:11:31 By the way if your husband has a tendency of physically attacking you when he's pissed, you don't just hang around anywhere near him just chilling and going "what happened" while he's banging things and clearly having a moment of rage. You normally tend to get as far away from him as you can.
Amber clearly antagonises him and beats him down, then presses record in time for his reactions, and starts piling on the innocent “i would never do that to you”’s, so manipulative
Same thing my ex would so. He would wait for an 1 hour into the argument after I had been worn down and basically lost my 💩 before he would record. He tried to use it in court and the Judge wouldn't let him. He also talked my son into trying record me and he was a 12 year old child. They will do anything.
I don't think Heard's lawyer is helping himself with the use of hyperbole (mega pint of red wine) - especially not when Depp has such an expansive vocabulary and lyrical way of speaking. The lawyer's exaggerations come off as childish and mean in comparison. I am also surprised he hasn't changed tack a bit since Depp's snark seems to be positively received. By continuing this way, it feels like it just makes Depp look better.
I think this tactic would work better with a person who didn't already have a fairly established character of eccentric speaking. I think most of the public at least vaguely knows of Depp as a Tim Burton/jack sparrow amalgation, even if they aren't a fan or follower.
Absolutely! In the end they are trying to shame Depp because they don’t have any real proof of violence against Heard. Depp is confident in his truth and is able to answer these ridiculous questions with a bit of snark because he knows he’s being honest.
Honestly the way Johnny says some of the sassy stuff in that super dry tone like "Drawing a penis on a painting wasn't the first thing on my mind" is making him feel very relatable to me lol
My ex boyfriend accidentally head butted me in the nose, and when it happened I couldn’t stop my eyes from crying. It wasn’t that painful at first but the tears just kept flowing. While I didn’t have much visible bruising my nose was swollen for a good 6 months and was painful to touch for I’d say 2 months. If Johnny broke her nose, I would expect a reaction like this…. And I’m not even sure my nose was broken. I don’t remember any blood but it was 6yr ago. I just remember the tenderness that lasted for months
she supposedly covered her swollen nose and bruises with makeup. i would think, being an actor, she would go to a doctor to make sure her nose was ok…who knows. she seems to be a superwoman that can heal and step on glass with no problem.
Watching now and DYING... the throat texts about did me in. I have not sat and watched this until now, but I'm going to have to go back to the beginning now. Thanks EDB!!!
I know this from personal experience and the experience of close family members, there is NO WAY that Amber would have continued to record and stay in the room when JD was slamming the kitchen cabinets if she feared he would turn his agression onto her. She would have left immediately. She wouldn’t have stuck around, goading him to talk, following him at the end with a smile on her face. No way. Full stop.
I was thinking that too in the last clip. If an abuser with a knife was in a hotel room with me, I'd probably be concerned for my life. She was telling JD his knife was too dull and didn't seem scared in the least😕
@@venuss2000 good point. Her “fight or flight” response didn’t activate…she didn’t fight or leave in either instance. That’s not how anyone I’ve ever met has ever responded to imminent danger by their known aggressor. I’m not buying her version at all.
Yup and just recording out in the open and grinning at the end...... That's mad sus IMO! She would've stayed her ass in her room or "ran away" as she proclaimed in her testimony!!
I think in the opening statement her female lawyer made, she said that AH didn't donate the money because of all of the court cases etc she has to put her money there because she doesn't have that much to spend both ways :D but then again, she also claimed that AH couldn't afford to buy "starbucks" either 🤣 so, idk - how much money can you pay to your lawyer if you can't even afford a starbucks? 🤣
@@amanifestasticlife842 AH's pledged gifts to nonprofits were the reason her settlement was so high. Running into Starbucks problems isn't a legit cause for chande
Amber recording him, and taking pictures during these emotional times is so disgusting. I am sure people around Johnny also recorded him, but if Amber used them against him then it no different than her recording them herself. All of this and Johnny's testimony tells us all we need to know about who she is... a nasty, soul-less POS! I can only imagine what he didn't tell us, like what she put his children through :( ! No matter to outcome of the trial, we all got to see Johnny's heart and the trauma he has suffered not only as a child, but at the hands of Amber Heard! Johnny proved he does not lie, he owns everything he has done and for that, I have the utmost respect for him! He has CLASS, she has NONE!
they both recorded each other, this has been established before this day in court. Do you think its ok for him to record her, but not for her to record him?
@@ads13924 he testified before that there was permission granted from her when he would record as she often or always forgot the things she would do or say during arguments
@@ads13924 yes it was said they agreed on both recording each other AT TIMES... it is certainly NOT hard to see she set him up and recorded him at times that were personal and had nothing to do with anything more than her gathering all she could because she knew by her own behavior that the day would come where she would be left... FOR GOOD... she was never about anything more than a gold digger, phyco narcissist with a black heart. It's all good though... she will NEVER live her antics down in this lifetime! Scamber can win in court, who cares... Johnny already won by exposes her as the heartless creature she is. She made a mockery of MEEE-TOOOO and every abused person that ever lived! RIH AH!
What it all breaks down to is …. They were both in a very volatile and abusive cycle with Amber being the main perpetrator and Johnny checking out with drugs and alcohol. She has already crushed his career with her lying op-ed and he wants the world to know her part and now we all do. Her career will be obliterated with this case and in the end…that’s all Johnny wanted and to gain back some credibility. He prob won’t win but in the court of public opinion, he has!
The fact that Rottenb... apologized to the jury for strong language, but not for their side's regular dead air, especially when he repeatedly expressed that he values the time of the judge and jury while he cut off Depp, makes him seem deeply performative. Edit: tense correction
Yes, he talks about respecting the judge and jury, but whenever he directs the word respect toward Johnny, we can expect disrespectful comments to follow, as in, “ With respect,…”
exactly, it was so performative it was his way of being like “i’m SO sorry you guys have to hear the DREADFUL things this man has said” but doesn’t show that same sentiment when playing a literal audio of depp having a breakdown, threatening to SH, while his “partner” recorded him and then used it against him
Hearing JD apologize over and over again isn't having the effect on me I think AH's team thought it would... He sounds more and more like a victim of gaslighting rather than the perpetrator
I agree. I think the defense is trying to show it as some admission of guilt but that’s not at all how it’s coming across. It’s making him look really sweet. Plus, from what I understand about psychological abuse this is common-for the victim to be the one to attempt amends. The victim might even truly believe that they are at fault if deeply codependent which Johnny does appear to be. In fact this relationship has the Narcissist/Codependent dynamics written all over it. Even the defenses tactics are narcissistic.
Johnny's attorneys have to love having this being broadcast, they can have all their interns scouring lawtube for anything they missed during cross so they don't skip over anything during their redirect
Emily! With the fecal-phobia can Depp’s side bring up that Heard now has a baby…for example: do you have help with your child? Do you administer your child meals? Do you change your child? How do you do so with fecal-phobia? XD
Honestly who cares if he lied about an insurance form. Everyone lies. Especially on forms. I just hope if I ever go on trial they don’t parade the fact that I lied about my weight on my drivers license.
and a lot of those questions are very vague. like dr prescribed illegal drugs? what do you consider illegal if you took it on your own island or in Netherlands where it was legal??
The bravery of JD ,, imagine having everyone in the world knowing absolutely all of your private information your private texts and emails ,, it must be hell but he is willing to go through all this because he is not willing to be accused of striking or physicaly harming someone ,, my heart breaks for him to be honest 😔
@@jjets8775 Really? Have you heard that sinister audio of her degrading and harassing him.. Also ..responding with the exact same comment to anyone in support of Johnny love that for you
@@bobthathead3 nope. And the bloody missing finger came first. The pictures were horrific and to some, it probably would look like it was all him, but if like has been said, he was never able to get a word in with her he lost it after getting his finger sliced off and had enough and wanted to be heard, or understood, even if he had to write on the walls in blood to try to get his point across.
@@jjets8775 that’s nothing in comparison of severing someone’s finger and then putting a cigarette on them. Imagine it was the other way round and he did that to a woman. He wrote on a mirror in paint so what.
I was a paralegal in Seattle for 25 yrs, this is painful to watch. Mr. Rottenborn is very demeaning to JD and it shows, whatever his hourly rate is it is too much. I worked with some amazing attorneys thank goodness. Rottenborn should never play poker!
His hourly rate is around $320. Elaine is around +$700 which is something because she is even more condescending. (But she really goes to trial and often settles.)
Yes, the "I cut my finger of to remind myself to not cut my own finger of" is sarcasm. I even thought that before I heard all his other texts, it`s obvious. How would this sentence make sense any other way?
It absolutely is! Especially since it was his *right* middle finger that was sliced off in Australia. I know because we've been shown & told many times about it.
Am I the onlyone that wanted the cross to end at some point. I was nearly falling a sleep except the comedic relife moments. Rottenborn was chaotic , repatetiv and boring. I can't remember anything anymore. 🤡
@@LaineLawNerd I didn't know he used blood to write 'Easy Amber' on a mirror and he said he cut off his own finger when he was talking about wanting drugs from a doctor. He's a total nightmare. He should lose this big time. This is embarrassing. Classic jealous lunatic behavior writing in blood on a mirror abusive comments. You guys are giving this guy a pass.
It just sickens me that amber heard set up Johnny Depp and recorded him at his most vulnerable.... There is no justice in this world 😞. I don't understand why all of amber heards texts are not part of the trial, but Johnny's is.
Did anyone here catch the slip up by defense with the last recording?? He's said "it'll take the pain away" she said "no it won't, trust me I know" when talking about him self harming, how would she know that if she's never self harmed? As her def established earlier.
@Lorena Treichler yeah it was brought up in connection to two scratches she had on her left arm, she's saying thise happened when "he dragged her through glass" in austraila incident, so her team were saying she doesn't self harm to push that narrative (mind you two scratches on one arm after being dragged through glass is pretty suspect in and of itself)
I was a 24/7 drinker for about 7 years. My ex took pics of me in compromised positions. I don’t know what he did with them….my fiancé took care of me and supported me getting better. I’m still hurt my ex did that along with the verbal and mental abuse. He’s is denial. I feel for Johnny wanting people to understand the addiction. It’s not black and white. Just because you l have an addiction doesn’t mean your are a terrible person.
I mean the note they left the cross examination was painful to hear and watch him. They left him to dwell on that self harm hurt. That's horrible. A person's lowest point and they are using it against him! Heartbreaking.
His mother died, he's getting divorced, he lost $650 million, and was being labeled an abuser worldwide. And now, your lowest point is being used against you. Not cool!
One thing I have taken away from all of this is that JD likes using the word c*nt. He used that word in reference to AH in a text to her that wasn’t aggressive or hateful. His frequent use definitely takes away the shock.
In Britain it's used like us saying stupid. It took me about 3 months to realize that everybody uses that term. It was such a shock to me because I think in all my years I've used that word twice. The f word rolls of their tongues the same way.
I have battled with drug addiction most of my adult life. luckily it didn’t start until well after I had my children ( or i never would have had them) I’ve always worked and tried to be a good person. I’ve never been violent. . I grew un unloved and abused by my mother. I was singled out among several children. To be the scapegoat. I am sure that’s why I became a user/ addict. To numb the pain. My point is, you can be an addict and be a decent person .. or. ..be stone cold sober and a psychopath. Being an addict doesn’t automatically mean you are unworthy of Belief. I’m not making a judgement here. I only mean in. General. You shouldn’t automatically lose because you have and addiction .. A MEDICAL ISSUE. IMO. Aggressive people often single out people with addiction issues as a means of control and maybe blackmail later. This is just my opinion
@💫sUNnNyy many drug abusers are sensitive caring people. They use drugs to numb their emotions. I’m not naive though. You can shut down all your feelings with certain drugs and that is dangerous.
Monday there should be some “pre-luminary matters” regarding the fliers placed on cars in the parking lot (possibly including those of the jurors) with info about the fact that he lost the UK trial which the Judge already ruled would not be allowed in. AH’s buddies are at it again.
New listener here, Emily. I love love love your commentary! @1:58:58 you don’t hide your disgust with AH’s lawyer as he continues to question JD through an objection.…”He’s starting to piss me right off!” Cracked me up!! 😆
I’m glad they didn’t object on certain things because honestly it made me feel for him even more and it shows he confided in certain people and telling them his feelings about certain things that were going on. This is old but its funny looking back and seeing how ambers team thought they had a leg up some how lol.
Had an awkward catch playing softball, where I bare-handedly caught the ball hit at me. After surgery, I told people I broke my finger so many times, when actually the batter broke it with their line drive. Its a common phrase and its ridiculous to argue over it sooooo much!!!!
Wasn't he still wearing a cast at that point? It sounded like someone trying to cut a cast off. You hear a sawing back n forth on material. So, it's easy for her to frame audio. Yet, she doesn't call police, 911 nor tells his security team.
The thing about those videos is toxic people are the masters of only recording your reaction and not what caused it. Any time a recording starts with a freak out without context I’m instantly suspicious
It's not like loved ones know when their addict is going to loose it. However, another problem with these tapes is that the person taping is on his best behavior. They're not taping their bad deeds, only the other guys.
@@gabihagelstein515 yeah sure, no other evidence besides catching half of Depp's lies throughout his testimony like his blacking out, his headbutting, his false sobriety, his relation to the word "Monster". No sir.
the irony in amber being represented by someone so aggressive with his gaslighting… is just astounding. you think she would of went with a lawyer that was more level headed if she wanted to run the victim narrative as much as she has been.
Johnny obviously writes texts in a really flamboyant crazy way. The first ones are shocking but then when you realize he always does that weird British humor that argument loses its steam.
Bloody man: "I've lost my ear!!" Mr. Rottenborn: "Sir, can you state your name?" Bloody man:"John Paul Getty III". Mr. Rottenborn: "So you are without an ear. And you admit that it's entirely possible you're Vincent van Gogh!"
I'm still not over the nail polish on a tissue as she claimed "good going Johnny. You broke my nose," before showing him alleged blood! Love that he knew to check garbage can for its realness. If she fakes that, she'll fake more than that!! Bruising her own face if she has to. Wouldn't put it past her one bit!
@@Bianca1001 he’s under oath. His body language didn’t change one bit as he stated this. Seeing many of your comments it’s clear you’re team Amber, which is fine. I just have almost 40 professional years w people who’ve been in trouble & often lie to get out of trouble. He was dead on believable w this event related under oath. Amber’s prior depositions show much deception.
@@Bianca1001 His sister employed by him as w other witnesses is equal to living rent free/ paid/receipt of high life…. For example, living in luxury accommodations as did her upcoming witnesses, that’s not pay? Rocky, her boyfriend, her sister & Whitney’s boyfriend…her friends being flown privately all over at his expense. That argument won’t work w these two.
@@Bianca1001 if you read my post to which you responded, btw, I did use "alleged blood." As far as the rest of my beliefs surrounding his testimony, as I stated already, his body language, cadence, mannerisms remain as consistent as when as when he said he first lived in Kentucky, moved to Fl, or when saying he called her Slim or the C word. That behavior is very consistent w one who's telling the truth. The whole case is he said/she said. It's about the person's integrity. He is airing it all out there, not for any 50 mil payout but to be heard re of outcome of case. I'll be watching her answers w just as much scrutiny.
@@Bianca1001 I've broken my nose. It bleeds & bleeds. I'm also a trauma nurse from Detroit. Her account is incredible. It is simply not true. Alleged my back side!
Emily, do you know if Johnny's side plans to bring on expert witnesses that specialize in relational abuse (parental, spousal, etc...) in ALL forms (physical, mental, emotional, sexual, financial, etc...) and one who specializes in substance use disorders?? I worry that the MANY things her attorney took WAY out of context today may appear worse to some of the jury than they really are.
I’d like to know as well, because I remember someone said there Will be, however I Wonder now if I was mistaking it for their marriage counselors deposition. But I really thought I heard it would be a doctor coming in as an expert witness to discuss abuse in relationships. But that could backfire bc ambers side could simply ask them if it is their expert opinion that Johnny was abusive and any doctor with integrity would have to say yes, since “technically” the videos show verbal abuse and him trashing his kitchen which an attorney stay said that breaking things in front of your spouse is considered threatening and abusive in the legal sense.
Even though, we all know exactly why Johnny did the things he did. He may not be perfect, but I see no evidence he ever had laid a hand on any of his partners/wives. Anger pushed him over the edge and he still didn’t hit her. That says a lot about him bc I couldn’t imagine having that kind of restraint after what she’s done to him.
I really hope they discuss reactive abuse! However I think now is a decent time for this trial, coming off the Gabby Petito story, where reactive abuse was seen and discussed. Because of that case and the body cam footage, reactive abuse has been discussed more in the past year than the 30yrs prior that I recall.
@@mrsmommy81 I also feel like when your ex spouse is supporting you when you left her for this particular person, it says a LOT about who you really are. How come it’s only Amber that’s ever accused him of abuse? 🤔
If you go back to the Australia “fingertip castration” you will see communications between Dr. kipper and his nurse regarding need for AMBER to have increased dose of her antipsychotic medication because of HER behavior. I really hope that the defense probes her psychiatric history/need for antipsychotics and also the need for intervention after she castrated JD’s fingertip
Also... they established he did drugs his whole life and never got physical with any of his partners right? (Vs her who did previously) so they are almost working on the wrong side trying to character assassinate him so bad
@@ldd9672 The recordings on Depp's side are mutually agreed upon for use with their therapy sessions. The Amber Heard recordings are her sneakily recording him.
@@ldd9672 Trust me if he did the same her lawyers would have brought that up right away to get the videos dismissed. I think the only reason she could play her videos that way cause of loopholes.
When AH tried to enter Australia with her two dogs (undeclared I believe), Australians were livid with her nonchalant, rude, above the law behavior towards authorities, the law, the country. This damaged her reputation a lot and she was very disliked there after this. Sometimes I wonder if she can’t handle criticism of her own behavior, and tried to salvage her own damaged reputation by dragging Depp into it, like “look overt there, not here” by accusing JD for domestic violence, using the timing of the MeToo movement. I think she believed it would be an easy ride, that everyone would believe her but it backfired greatly. I think the tape of her saying paraphrasing “ go on Johnny, go ahead and try to see it the world will believe you if you say you’re a victim of abuse”. That is a classic narcissistic sociopath. I don’t believe JD wanted to say exactly what happened (when allegedly AH severed his finger) because he was still with her. It’s tough to press charges against any partner, let alone an abuser. If you have bad self esteem, think you can5 live without the other you wouldn’t want your partner charged right? He didn’t want AH to be charged with a crime. You normally protect your partner in abusive relationships. I believe he protected HER, saved her violent behavior. Can he retract that story how the accident actually happened and press charges against her? It’s just strange that shortly after this, everything unravels and she starts accusing him of domestic violence. Will the dogs be brought up? Her behavior towards authorities? Maybe this was another visit to Australia by her visiting JD though but I think JD was with her when they flew in to Australia at the time if I recall correctly, He was very embarrassed and was very nice to the media, showed respect whilst she was horrible. PS. If Elon Musk sneaked around his penthouse, she’s probably the batshit crazy one as he only seem to date totally crazy confused women.
@@eddiemac6648 no, they can’t use the tape recording from Australia unfortunately. I believe because either it’s a deceased man in there, or it was in Queensland, Australia, a two party consent state, so it’s illegal to use. I’m sure Depps tea: pushed for it but ambers team fought against as it’s very damaging to her. Her attorney asked her if she had heard this recording and if she thought it was a genuine presentation as to what happened. She says YES. However she lied saying it wasn’t her recording it when we can clearly hear that it was. We hear her peeling off tape to some kind of recording device just seconds before security comes in the room. Her phone can’t record for 5 hrs.
In the end, people across the world have now heard it, and that’s what Johnnys goal was, to tell his side, let us decide. To clear his name. He’s not doing this for money, though he deserves every million after all she dragged him through. The jury can’t listen to these recordings as it’s nit part of the evidence but I hope they see what we all see anyway. I wish they could sentence her for perjury, get thrown in jail.. I believe she’s that dangerous.
If he chopped his finger off himself he would have done it with his dominant hand and to his non dominant hand I think. Even if he was high as a kite. It's just muscle memory...a reflex. But his injury is on his dominant hand.
I think the only thing that is irking me about the questions being asked especially when it comes to text messages is the fact that they are taking everything so literally I understand that they are trying to make a point but I don’t think they have to take every single sarcastic message so literally
They have nothing else to go on. They have to make it sound like he terribly insulted Amber when he called her a "cunt", even so he used insults in his colourful language with all his friends.
Question- Does the jury know that Amber’s side is not releasing everything (metadata)? Can you explain more about what is going on with that? I am also curious how they could start this trial without all the evidence.
This is a sh!t show. This lawyer is all over the place. We know they fought, we know they did drugs, some of this is just repetitive. Tactic or not, JD is a very smart man. I hope his team has it together on redirect! She was absolutely bating him and recording everything to be used to frame him later. I hope the jury sees it. She's trying to paint herself as some fragile victim but I believe it's the exact opposite. She knew what she was doing in these recordings by trying to make things appear differently.
That's because the defense is trying to push this narrative that anyone who does drugs or is an addict, they are automatically violent, which is highly untrue, but they want to use the drugs and him being an addict to show the jury that the "monster" comes out when he uses. She loves using the word "monster" to describe depp. That's why they are spending so much time on the drug issue. Pretty shitty defense if you ask me.
That last recording was heartbreaking, both of them were crying. What a shame this couple couldnt get more help with their mental health, grief and substance abuse. Toxic.
Quoting “CATHERINE” the (self-proclaimed) Court reporter”, “Of the 3 women on the jury, 2 are wearing mask and its hard to get a read on them…the third is an older lady that seems to be falling for the bs. OF the 4 Hispanic men, none of them seems to be fooled by the non-actress.” Let’s hope…!!!
The you tube guys who are in the court room and reporting about the jurors says that most of the men jurors are Asian men not Hispanic From my memory I think even an Asian female. I will try to find the juror chart and share it.
