That oily stuff on the rails we call “crater” grease. Its used in the gear boxes. It comes in a sealed plastic bag; one throws the whole bag in the gearbox, and it chews it up. We put a bag in every 92 days. There really is no seal to the gearbox, so it more or less oozes out from everywhere. It let’s you know its in there.
Thank you, Just worried that something else was broken. I have some RR background. I worked as a Steam RR Fireman for the Valley RR in Conn. Lots of Fun but I got too old for the job. Lots of responsibility !
I just stumbled on your videos tonight. Reminds me of good times when I was 18yr old working for a short line rr owned by Ideal Basics in South West Arkansas. Our train switched out the cement cars, and we had two feed mills for the chicken industry that is big here. I only worked there 5 years, part of the time on the track crew, part of the time in a shop repairing cars that came on the line. We did it all, also, derailments, filling the sand bunkers on the locomotives, pulling traction motors, etc. We had a two man shop crew that kept up our two locomotives we had. Just one thing we did with the rerailers, was to drive a spike in the ties behind the ears of device. I certainly would not try to tell you your job, you guys certainly got the job done 👍👍. Thank you for the videos! Brings back great memories.
This is incredible that we get such detailed coverage of such incredibly unusual events. Thank you so much for the time and effort you take in putting these together for us.
There is even mystery and suspense on the railroad! Thank you for sharing Dave! It is always a good idea to find the cause of a problem, but sometimes it is not possible, I think it happens to everyone eventually.
This happened a year ago Raymond and I'm still puzzled as to why. We ran same loco for thousands of trains since then with no problems at all. Was just a bad hair day for the loco that night. But, that's railroading. Always a pleasure to have you pay us a visit my friend.
I remember back in the day when many locomotives would carry 1 and sometimes 2 rerailers. You could still see them on Rio Grande diesels up into the 1990's. I many times have wondered if the train crews were fully expected to use them and the difficulty they'd encounter, just like we've seen here. I've seen many rerailing videos and nearly every time, the rerailer would just slide along and put the problem further down the track. I mean obviously, at some point they do work, but I wonder if by now, someone could design a better more efficient rerailer? Thanks for sharing the trials and tribulations of railroading with us, Dave. 👍💪💪
Our locos have hooks on them to carry the rerailers Scotty, and way in the past we used to carry them. So very rare here a loco derails tho. Gets lot's of cars go off. We have a better set of rerailers, they are aluminum and much lighter and have a bar that goes under the rail that helps very much in preventing sliding. problem that night they were at the harbor and the ballast was froze solid so it would have been a real chore to dig out under the rail. We tried using what we had up there. Always appreciate your paying us a visit and hearing from you my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I'm glad it doesn't happen very often for your RR. I'd like to see that other style rerailer doing its thing just to see a better "mousetrap" in action. Thanks, for all of the great information, Dave. 👍
Aww shucks, I was hoping you had a steam crane coming in to set it back on. I stood in the rain one night about 55 years ago just to watch one of those steam cranes pick up and place a diesel locomotive back on the repaired track that was about 10' away from the track. Watching the operator pulling and pushing on those levers was impressive.
Now that would have been awesome to see a steam crane in here and see that working. They called them Big Hooks back in the day for lifting heavy stuff like locos. Thanks so much for dropping by and taking in tonight's show my friend.
I have seen one of those Bucyrus steam cranes in operation back in the late 1960's working a derailment north of Oglethorpe, Ga. It was impressive watching it and the communications with the locomotive without a radio.
@@waynehall6273 The thing that amazed me was that when he started any movement or lifts was the small size of the steam cylinders. That was when I really started realizing the power of steam. Seeing those side boom crawlers today just is not the same.
FYI...I would recommend replacing all of the rails and ties every 5 years... Also the hopper cars every 10 years. The locos...every 10 years. Remember the workload these machines have to endure, plus the weather. I think it would actually save money in the long run. I understand the mine has at least 30 years of coal left. Steve in California
Well let's see, 21 ties per 39 foot section of rail at $100 a tie to buy them and install. Next comes $1500 for a new stick of 39 foot rail, then replace both sides of the track, plus the cost to install the rail. Now figure that times 16 miles of track to do. Then for the cars, $20,000 per used car, plus another 20,000 just to get them here. If you buy new cars they are around $125,000 per car times 60 some cars we have. Better get a bigger calculator to figure all that up! Or we better start selling our coal for 500 a ton to pay for it.... :-)
Great show Dave. When I lived in Western Maryland I heated with COAL, in 1978 nut coal at the mine cost about $35.00 a ton. Great to see you helping to keep my lights on.
Thank you very much Joe for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your dropping by and watching. Nut coal now is going for $600 a ton! If you can find it. Europe is hurting for coal big time and is jacking up the price. It's really hard to find around here now.
You have a gremlin living up there Dave, he just likes to let you know he is still there. Thanks Dave stay warm out there, that truly was a that's railroadin story.
I do think we do Jeff, but he makes for some pretty cool videos....LOL Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with me and check out the gremlin show my friend.
Wow, never get to see this stuff. Thanks so much! In my imagination the rim just bit a little too hard on the inside of the rail and it grabbed and walked over, maybe a rough spot in the steel or a bit of a cold weld happened, lot of high pressure physics going on under those locomotives. Thanks again!
When them rerailer things slip off it shuts a guy's breathing off for a second. Whew-we Dave that was scary, that's enough breathing exercises for one day. Good video 😀
It gets really frustrating to see that happen Jim, but that's railroading. Thanks so much for the nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.
Never seen a rerail device at work. Great to see the principle and how it is done. Still a pretty steep incline over a very short distance and with high axle loading enormous forces are created. Great it got sorted in the end. Great video and commentary.
Cold always makes things more difficult, but that's railroading. Thank you so much Beverly for your very nice comment. We really appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.
Thanks for great video Dave. Yes, derailments ae a funny thing. Something things just derail just because. We always said it happened because things were going smoothly on the railroad. I've derailed the hyrail trucks and various equipment many times. I love those butterfly rerailers, the Camelbacks are nice too, not as easy to deploy as the butterflies. There's been many derailments where we used seemingly every trick in the book to get things back on. Used butterflies to get the wheels close enough for the Camelbacks, blocks of wood, tie plates and joint bars. Sometimes even had to build a temporary track underneath the car , that always sucked.
Your welcome Zach, sure wish you had been with us that night, You'd have gotten her back on! Really appreciate your sharing some of your first hand experiences with us my good friend.
Maybe the front traction motor stalled or is out if phase withe others, causing it to hop or bite the rail and jump out. Just my 2¢. Thanks for the update !
You never know, that was over a year ago and I'm still puzzled as to how it happened. Some weird goofball stuff sometimes happens on the RR. Over a year has passed since this was filmed, same loco, loading the cars same way, thousands of times since then with no problems. Go figure. Always a pleasure to have you pay us a visit my friend. Thank You.
Murphys law at work. Thats the first time I've seen a 3 axle truck only dump 1 axle off. Strange. Thanks for going in after hours to get the unique footage.
First time for me also Matt. Very strange and I have yet to figure it out. Glad you enjoyed the show and we always appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.
You mean an Addams Family giant Thing? he actually had a date that night with Cousin It's twin sister and was unavailable for re railing efforts.... LOL LOL. I hear you on the giant hand, that's the way i learned to re rail on my HO set as a kid. Those silly cars were always coming off. Thank you so much Jim for visiting with us and taking in tonight's home movie.
Thank you Mike for the nice comment. Glad you are enjoying. Would have been hard to watch this train go by with loco on ground.... LOL Always appreciate your visiting with us my friend.
I’m amazed at the flex between axles on the same truck. Thanks for sharing the rerailing process. And hope I’m never involved in that process. Keep having fun Dave!
The axles do have a good bit of up and down movement. If Rodney had been there, this never would have happened....LOL Always a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend.
Your welcome Barry, glad you enjoyed the show. That was quite a night, very cold, but we had some good help and the guys all worked very hard together to get that loco back on. Very grateful my friend for your taking the time to visit with us and check out the derailment video.
Another great opportunity to see what 99% of people normally don’t get to. I’ve never heard of or seen a re-railer before but now I have thanks to you Dave! I always assumed locos and cars were re-railed by a crane. Great video man!
Sounds like you all might have a bit of haunted rail area.. may want to check back in the history archives.. but all said and done, one must admit, it makes for an interesting day and a GREAT video for us ! Thank you for sharing the good , the bad, and the ugly with us Dave!
Great video Dave! I almost said a cuss word as well when the locomotive slipped-off! I thought it was a done deal 🤔 I saw them rerail a steam loco on another video with the help of a front end loader pulling from the other side. You do what you gotta do...
LOL, like the 3 Stooges, once Curly Joe was in the witness stand 'in court and the bailiff asked him do you swear. Joe answered, no but I know all the words.....:-) Appreciate your efforts you put into the re railing effort tonight Mojo! Believe me there were some "other" adjectives used on the opposite side of the loco, had to cut out some of the film short to eliminate those "railroad" words.... Always appreciate your visiting with me my friend.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Rick, but this one still has me puzzled and everyone else too. Really appreciate your kind words and for checking out tonight's show my friend.
I have been involved in a couple of times rerailing of cars in my short time working on the Maine Central Railroad track maintenance crew ("up north in Maine" to quote a Dick Curless song). We had different rerailers, as I remember them to have been a bit bigger!
Always an adventure re railing, this was actually the first time we ever had to try and use re railers for a loco, in the few times in the past when locos went off, had to call in Hulcher. Thanks for sharing your story Gerald. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch the show my friend.
I was cheering you guys on when you were trying to get er back on the rails and Aww man! When it didn't! Very good video. Glad it finally budged back where it had to go. Good teamwork! Thank you for sharing.
Hey Dave! Shane here! I have seen a wheel partially derail and the flange will ride right on top of the Tball for dozens of feet, and then derail seemingly with no reason. I think the flange lifted up on that concrete slab and rode the top of the Tball where it just decided to fall off seemingly with no rhyme or reason--- I would bet a 100$ on it!!!
We certainly want to thank you for taking the time to visit with us Shane and for sharing your thoughts. Always is a pleasure to hear from you my friend.
Dave: No I was working, last night and could not watch this till I got home. I still work one or two days a month. I got the notification, but can not watch vids while working. When I worked for Iowa RR, the old GE's were always jumping off the rail, in the yards light rail..
Glad you could join in with us Bill. Try to find the comment by Jason27 swg. He was an NS engineer and in his reply back to me he gives a very interesting story of a GP jumping track in a yard he was operating. Thank you so much my friend for your nice comment.
Hey Dave, great video. I think the grease may have been knocked loose when the wheel went off rail. Indeed, the stresses on rail are most extreme in heat and cold. Keep hauling coal!
Thank you Thomas, glad you enjoyed. I think you are correct in the grease thing. Was very cold that night and things always are more of a struggle in the cold as you probably already know. Really appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend. yep, we hauling coal as best we can. Got to keep those fuel supplied for those electric cars.... LOL
Well that was exciting Dave ! I was yelling just like you were. The wife said " What's going on over their " as she sat at the kitchen table ! Totally awesome video ! The same thing happens on my model railroad. Sometimes I can't find any reason at all. At that point I say " Well that's railroadin " ! Thanks for sharing .
Well your right Scott that's railroading.... :-) Sorry about Mrs. getting upset with you, please blame it on me.... I really enjoyed hearing that! Always appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Watched a video a few days ago where the last few cars had so much harmonic rocking it looked like the trucks were about to lift off the track, the guy filming even shouted, "It's going to derail!". Somehow those cars stayed on the rails, despite how far out those cars leaned. I needed to see this video of yours right now though. We're having one of those months where everything at home wants to break or go wrong at the same time. Puts our troubles into a little more perspective.
I hear you on the when it rains it pours, seems like that happens in cycles around our home too,.... sigh. It is amazing how cars can rock so bad yet still stay on track, but at other times just the slightest little thing can cause a derail, one of life's big mysteries to me. Thanks so much for taking the time to visit and check out the derailment video my friend.
Wish I could have stayed to film that arkay, but it was late when they got it back on and I had to get home to bed for work the next day. Always appreciate hearing from you my friend.
Howdy Dave, I remember as a kid seeing this happen as i was watching a P&LE train from my kitchen window (a bit of a distance, but close enough to see) pulling out of Monessen steel mill, they got it re-railed in 4 tries. My theory is that the cold kept the truck from pivoting as free as it should, and forced the pressure side up and over, as a freak one time thing where all the stars aligned
Cool story Matt. Thanks so much for sharing with us. Pretty neat you got to see them do that. Very much appreciate your dropping by and checking out the home movie my friend.
When he said they were having trouble rerailing due to the truck pivot being stiff, I too wondered if that might have been the cause of the accident to begin with.
I admire your hard work and sharing the jobs you do with the rest of us. The more I see of #22, though, the more I think it is just on the verge of breaking down on every run. You deserve a lot of credit for keeping the wheels turning! Stay warm, spring is coming, the robins are already here in west Texas
Thank you very much Jeff for taking the time to visit with us and for the nice comment. We really appreciate your watching the video my friend. 22 is currently in the shop awaiting an executive decision on whether to put a new engine in it or not, it does have some serious problems.
That was pretty fascinating. I just figured every time a derailment happened you had to lift whatever derailed up and back on the rail. Wish we could have seen it go on here, but that's life. A friend and I took Amtrak out to Colorado to go skiing in 1994. There was a stopover in Denver and when we were pulling back out of the station the dining car derailed. It shook the train pretty good. They tried for about an hour to get it back on the rails and couldn't get it done. Luckily they were able to disconnect the dining car and just leave it out of the train. Since the dining car was not available anymore, they made plans to get Kentucky Fried Chicken for everyone. Our stop was the last one before the stop with the KFC, so we didn't get any. :( Oh well. I still had a lot of fun. Going through the Moffat Tunnel was a hoot. Snowing like crazy on one side and clear skies on the other. Anyway, thanks for making all of these videos and I will have a good day.
That's true, but we had nothing to lift this loco with that night, wanted to avoid paying big bucks to Hulcher to come out so we gave it the old college try with rerailers. Come on over and I'll get you some KFC! :-) Thanks so much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.
Thanks Dave for the video. It's those darn little railroad gnomes. You can't see them, sometimes you hear them, and you think it's a tie squeaking, but it's really the little rascals up under the tie plates playing a fiddle. Well, that's railroading!!
I understand that during World War II, the Army air Corps rumor mill inadvertently started a rumor that when equipment went bad for no apparent reason it was because of gremlins.
Your welcome Rick, agree on the gnomes, I have no explanation for why this happened. However our new favorite catch all phrase for everything that goes wrong is: Thermal expansion caused by global warming initiated by man made CO 2....LOL Always a pleasure to have you visit with me my friend.
Being a yard and over the road engineer for Conrail out of Cedar Hill yard back in the "good old days" I was never on an engine that decided to jump rail but for my fellow locomotive drivers that did and you get something like that I just have the wreck master come down and weld that derailer right to the rails so it cannot slide. So much better, faster and easier just to throw a couple of tacks on it.
That's so awesome you ran for CR. Have several guys who write in once in awhile that worked for PC thru into CR. I love hearing old RR history. We have a better set of rerailers that you have a bar that goes under the rail to hold them in place, however the ballast that night was frozen solid and what a chore that would have been to dig out the ballast. Thank you so very much for watching and writing in my friend.
Much funnier now that it was that frigid night. Very frustrating indeed. Glad you got a chuckle out of watching. We certainly do appreciate your stopping by my friend.
I could have suspected wheel needs Re-profiling or bolster pin area needs to be checked, or rail kink or improper gauge etc..but considering it derailed in straight track that is ok leaves me scratching my head. There are many reasons a derailment can happen on a curve but very few reasons it may happen on straight track. Glad it was resolved but the mystery remains.
These are the times when one wishes he had a GoPro mounted to the axle to see what really happened! :-) Sometimes weird stuff happens. This was taken over a year ago and we've ran thousands of trains since then over this with no more problems. My head is perplexed over this one. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.
Love you Channel, watched this one many times cause I have been in the same situation underground many times, both as a motorman hauling coal in the 70's and as construction foreman at Emerald. the re - railers underground have locking clamps on them to secure them from sliding, we put the rear claw against a tie to keep it in place. also question, was there another re - railer on the other side? once we locked them to the rail, we would block them to keep them from rolling, usually worked great. but that was the 70's . when I went to Emerald the just preferred to Jack LOL. Good job Dave, keep them coming
Very glad to hear you are enjoying the home movies Mark. From what the guys under ground here tell me they derail all the time and carry jacks with them to re rail. In this video, yes there was another re railer on the other side, it kept slipping out. our better re railers have a bar that goes under the rail and keeps it from sliding, but they weren't with us that night, we used what we had there and gave it a try hoping it would work. Thank you very much for stopping by and taking the time to watch and write in. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Dave I tack this one up to 'Ghosts in the Machine' no rhyme or reason but just on of those times when 'Feces Occurs'! The good thing is other than pride nobody got hurt!........chalk it up to That's Railroading!
LOL, I have no good explanation irongoatrocky. However our new catch phrase for everything that goes wrong is: Thermal expansion caused by global warming initiated by man made CO2.... Always a pleasure to have you pay us a visit my friend.
it was very frustrating being there too Cnw as you can well imagine. Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in to the channel and check out the video. May you have a really good day my friend.
Thanks for this video. A derailment for no rhyme or reason. Those re-railers don't have moving parts, and cannot be too expensive to keep a set of better quality at hand for situations like this.
Your welcome Robin. Our better set is lighter and has a wedge type thing you put under the rail to help keep it from sliding. However it was at the harbor and would have been really tough trying to dig out that frozen ballast to get under the rail. Always appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.
it certainly does appear to be that way many times Johnny! Really appreciate your paying us a visit and taking in the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Wow! Of course I don't know anything bout them, but could the flanges on the locomotive's wheels be worn down enough to make it easy to jump like that? It may have just been the view, but it looked like the wheels on the car behind it had deeper flanges.
I have no answers Rebel. What is so odd, this video was taken over a year ago and we have ran thousands of trains over same place with no further problems. It perplexes me to no end. Very much appreciate your dropping by and checking out the show my friend.
If railroading wasn't challenging, you'd soon get bored Dave! Great insight to some of those challenges. Just to help warm you up, it's 105 degrees at my place while I watch your wonderful video in air-conditioned comfort 😉
It was plenty air conditioned that night too Richard.... :-) I don't think Ive ever been bored my whole life. Very much appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
I've seen some very strange things happen on the RR here over the years aleu. Ghosts and gremlins and track over Indian burial grounds, oh my.... LOL Thank you very kindly for taking the time to watch and write in my friend. I am totally perplexed at why this derailment happened.
To figure out why it derailed, first you have to find where it derailed. The will be marks on the rail and ties where the wheel climbed the rail and finally hit the ground. You can look and see where the flange rolled across the top of the rail before it dropped. Sometimes it can ride the top of the rail quite a distance before falling off it onto the ties, but it normally always shows the marks if you look for them. We called those rerailers bat wings. There is a lip on the bottom on the wide end that needs to be up against a good tie and the wedges have to be driven in hard. For what you had there you needed a couple of shovels to shovel out the coal to get to the ties. I used a lot of oak blocking to rerail locomotives and freight cars. I liked the blocking better than the rerailers. We used to use tie plates on top of the blocking but the railroad stopped us from doing that as they could fly out and hurt someone. Once I got the wheels high enough I'd put boards on top and use them like tracks to guide the wheels back to the rail. U sed a 5 ton come along on freight cars to pull the wheel towards the rail, amazing how you can slew the wheel to the rail. I've had where I got the flange on top of the rail and was able to pull the wheel across the top of the rail and it dropped back on the tread. I worked many derailments both a a grunt and as the wreck master.
Thank you very much fire for writing in and sharing your experiences with us. You make a lot of good points. Glad you could take the time to pay us a visit and check out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Perhaps #22 had a Christmas wish list and didn't get what it asked for. It is amazing how many times you see and hear someone trying to coax heavy equipment into responding to your wishes. For a while there you certainly were producing plenty of kindling wood. Doctor Diesel.Dave to the rescue!
I found out long time ago with my tamper, you gotta talk to it and it doesn't like to be cussed at either....LOL This was a very odd occurrence for sure Paul. Thank you my good man for stopping by and checking out the home movie.
When I worked for PennCentral, we just derailed them (engines) and walked away. Never saw this part. Never realized the effort to rerail. Most of our derails were in the yard at 3 or 4mph with a rail folding over or just spreading. Back when no one ever fixed track, but just lowered speed. At some point 0mph was the safest speed to avoid derailment.
How cool is that John you was with PC. Man wish I could sit down and talk with you about those days. Where do you live at? if it's not too far, I may come visit sometime. I will never forgive PRR or NYC for merging.... :-) Thank you so much for watching and writing in my friend. Had a guy in here couple years ago to help me calibrate my tamper, he started with PC when he was 18, but that day was a big snow storm coming and he didn't want to chit chat about PC, only wanted to get back to his hotel room.
@@ccrx6700 Dude! You're a lifer! I had only one crazy amazing adventure filled 13 months on the rail road when I was 18. But the experience was amazing and changed my life forever. We're geographically neighbors. Moved from new jersey to Ohio in 1972 for school in columbus. Now, still in general area. Keep visiting on back burner. But keep your vids coming. Stirs my memory. Can see your passion just like I have.
Sorry if I caused any anxiety.... :-) Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning..... Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Weld a chain with a hook on the wing side of the frog, keeps it from kicking out. We always put grease on the frogs to aid the flanges to slide in the direction you want.
Thank you Tartarus for the words of advice, sounds like a good plan. Really appreciate your visiting with us and checking out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Take 2 Alka Seltzer and call me in the morning Russ. :-) Thanks for your valiant efforts at trying to help. Very much appreciate your dropping by and checking out the show my friend.
You did well not swear like a sailor, mate! I was swearing just watching! I so wanted the re railer to work. Thanks Dave this was a really good video! 🤬👍👍
The butterfly retailer you are using have teeth on the bottom edge . They are designed to grab the crosstie but you have to clean the crosstie off first or it will just slide down the rail as you seen .
Really appreciate your efforts at helping my friend! it was intense a few times. Very glad you enjoyed the show. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us and write in.
So very Interesting & Informative Dave !!....Why does the Rerailer Device have such a Steep Ramp angle ?? ...Seems a Longer Ramp could have more/better anti-slide Retention hardware & the "softer" Ramp rate would be Less likely to Slide from the Tremendous weight ?? A very Irritating Derail Mystery !! Almost like the Normal, dependable, well understand Train Truck--Rail physics decided Not to function & Derail !!! Thx so much for showing us all this serious inside railroading issues !!
Very glad you enjoyed Tom, we certainly do appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch my friend. I don't design the re railers, but, yes a longer slope would be of much benefit. These things are very heavy as they are, it's all 1 guy can do now to carry one, so keep in mind the longer they are the heavier they become. Big problem here was they kept sliding on us.
Thanks for sharing that Dave. Not a who dunnit, but a what dunnit mystery! That had to be gutting when it was so close, but wouldn't climb over! Pretty sure I was saying your swear words for you every time it slipped off the rerailer. Thanks again for a very interesting video! 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃💯👍🇺🇸
Your certainly welcome Jim. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us. And thanks for your vocal efforts! :-) Very glad you enjoyed the show my friend.
Damn that's nasty when just one axle comes off! We had the same problem at a preserved railway I use to work at back in 2007 when we had a Class 37 loco derail but the cause of our derailment was due to the track spreading. So we manually jacked the loco up and the had to manually crank the bogie back onto the track that was a hellish 5hr job!
Sounds like a job I would not want to be on John! Locos derailing are never fun, specially when it's frigid outside like this was. Thank you so much for sharing and for checking out the show my friend.
Yes sir Dave, it was a real disappointment but that's railroading! Pretty neat to watch tho. Very much appreciate your checking out tonight's home movie my friend.
Dave, I always enjoy your videos. Good content . Hope you get everything back up and running soon. Could you let us know the defect type. The weight and year rail was made .,name of company who made it. I do as always thank you for your time and effort.
Glad to hear you are enjoying the home movies Thomas. I found no rail defects at that site, the rail is 132 and was rolled in 1975 by US Steel Illinois, CC. Appreciate very much your writing in and for taking the time to watch the video my friend.
My best guess is the bearing the C power truck was cold and stiff to swing. The truck never fully straightened out coming of the last curve. Maybe some bit of dirt or metal shaving caught and was impeding pivoting right then. A wheel flange on the truck while binding on the rail, finally caught enough traction to climb the rail. I am so glad my HO models are much easier to rerail!
Someone else with a HO set said they had a giant hand to re rail their cars.... :-) We need a giant Addams Family Thing to help us out. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I worked on the now long defunct KLS&C. Kalamazoo Lake Shore & Chicago Railway out of Paw Paw, MI. We had interchange with the CSX at Hartford, MI for freight. I earned qualifications as Trainman, Fireman, Engineer, and Conductor for scenic, dinner and freight trains. I never did track work like you. I did conduct several limb clearing trains to remove low hanging limbs prior to us getting 3 ex-UP dome cars for out second dinner train. There are three videos I know of from the KLS&C on You Tube. At one time or another I ran all the trains in the videos. Engine 85 was my favorite. That was an ex ATSF 2110 GP-7R. I enjoyed my time there. I felt like a kid in a candy store with and American Express card! A model railroader that was able to run real equipment!!!
What is most interesting is this video was made Dec 2021. Since that time there has been no further leaks like that. Very odd. Only thing I can chalk it up to is a fluke. I have no good explanation otherwise. Thank you so much for watching and writing in my friend.
@@ccrx6700 well,my I enteresting thing about the railroad is M.O.W,and I got to watch mow kinda close,it's fun to watch,eh hard work,and what's up front....the locomotive,6 axel truck and the truck assembly,power control inside the cab,I was on a CSXT SD40-2 probably 10 years ago that was awesome,to cold to watch trains,waiting on warmer weather,happy rails.
Hey Dave, listen, It has nothing to do with this video but it was brought to mind. Different video, engine and cars pulling over to allow another engine by. While the engine that pulled to the side was stopping and slowly moving frwd the wheels were spinning on the tracks with a lot of sparking going on. Something like that usually caused by too much power applied too quickly or some other reason?
Very often when starting out with a heavy load the wheels will spin/slip on the rails Johnny. Giving it too much throttle when starting out does not help things at all. It's like driving your car out of an icy spot. Although with loco wheel slip the sanders should have been working to help get more gription.
We need a giant Addams Family Thing! Overhead pickup always helps. Back when was a boy, I learned quick how to rerail my HO set. Darn Santa Fe locos anyway. But I did love that set and still have it, just isn't set up.
Glad you enjoyed Bob. We certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Wish i could have stayed to see the job thru, but had to get up the next morning to fix the broken rail.
I somehow missed this video. I'm sure glad you shared the link in the other video Dave. Man, that's a lot of weight you're trying to put back up on the rail. I can see why that ramp thing kept sliding.
We have better rerailers where you put a bar under the rail and it will secure the rerailers from sliding as much. However those were not up there at the time and it would have been a struggle to dig that frozen solid ballast out under the rail Thanks for taking in the home movie today my friend.
Dave you had another really good video this evening I really enjoyed it . Dave I really love watching your videos I even try to watch some of your older videos too .
Thank you Mike for the really nice comment. We certainly appreciate your great support of the channel. So glad to hear you have having a good time with us my friend.
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Very strange that only one set of wheels came off on a 6 wheel truck. It seems like wheels on the opposite end at the least would also come off. Maybe there is more give in the truck side frames than we think or the wheel set has more free lateral motion than we think. Those are the only two ways I can see that the wheels on one end of a 6 wheel truck could derail with out the ones on the other end also derailing. Thanks for the great video!
Well, back in my younger days about 65 years ago I always wondered if those penny's we put on the track would cause a derailment. I think that's your answer. Some knuckle head with some penny's has derailed your train !
Well fireguy, that's about a plausible an explanation as I can come up with, I'm still puzzled here a year later. Every kid wants to put a penny on the track just to see what happens, I've done it myself. Thanks so much my friend for paying us a visit tonight and watching.
I used to hate unresolved mysteries when it came to break downs, or trouble getting a line to make product in spec. These are times when you can learn something, but if you can't find a cause.... you can't learn. When we ran into head scratchers, first thing I'd do, being in Q.A., would be to check and make sure we had the right gauges on the line. My own personal ass covered, I'd gently start to ask about fundamental stuff. More often than not, when everyone (which could add up to over 100 years of experience) was stumped, it was because a faulty assumption about something basic had been made.
Excellent approach to doing things Rod. Thanks for sharing. This one sure has me perplexed. Very much appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.
Thank you so much altpraize for the kind words, so pleased to hear you enjoyed this one. That was quite a night for sure! It was very cold which didn't help matters very much. They finally got the loco rerailed after they used a second loco to pull it up onto the rails. Very grateful my friend for your taking the time to visit with us and check this one out.
With the weights involved, it is amazing trains work as well as they do (the weight probably helps keep them on the rail). Luckily, the engine is back on without having to call in an outside company. Like you said, that's railroading. Great video.
I'm sure you've been on many similar type of derailments over your career. This single axle sure has me puzzled as to why. Always appreciate your visiting with us my good friend, glad you enjoyed the show.
