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It does fall apart a bit there. If that audience had no idea what was to happen, their reaction was quite tepid. I would have expected them to react in a big way and people to rush for the exits, etc. upon hearing a gun shot.
@@RustinChole You are aware that s major part of then undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, Mike Tyson's training was hypnosis? I am a professional hypnotist and I have friends who are hypnotists and make a really good living working with professional athletes and teams because he is so effective. Where do you get this stuff from? Oh, YOU have never seen it. OK. I guess it does not exist or work.
@@williamfelton8585 Exactly. Thanks for bringing this up here, wasn't sure what it was anymore ;) And no need for the last sentence, it just makes (us) hypnotists look bad. Suggesting looking up the Mike Tyson article etc. was already enough, to be honest and your other stuff, but no need to change the tone at the end. And I wish more people were aware that hypnosis really CAN change our lives in an INSTANT, if we let it and want it. Not to mention the ability of self-hypnosis. But for those untrained and where it works better with another person, hypnotherapists are the heroes, so keep doing what you are doing ;)
@@Chizuru94 I know sometimes I get a bit testy with people. I am old and my filters have fallen off on the rough road called life. I am also one who, when someone tells me they CANNOT be hypnotized, I ask to see their death certificate and autopsy report so I can see how the doctors explained their death, since without the process we call "hypnosis" when we enhance it clinically to help people, ALL of their organs would shut down as they controls for them all would be cut off. When they tell me they are "too intelligent" to be hypnotized, I laugh and explain that the more intelligent one is, the easier it is to guide them into trance, because they are already more connected than most. Then I tell them, "But I could be wrong, I have only been practicing hypnosis for 50 years." And I also point out that in clinical, stage and street hypnosis, the willingness of the subject to be hypnotized is a key ingredient to success. Not so with covert, conversational and text hypnosis and to a good degree NLP, as they never know it is happening so they don't put up defenses. I am no hero my friend. I am simply an old guy who still enjoys watching peoples lives improve rapidly and painlessly.
Please give me a chance to explain to you how things like this work: This is a show. People know it is a show. Consciously or subconsciously they know: 1. "Nobody will get hurt." 2. They are made to believe "if somebody gets hurt its not my fault, but the hypnotists." 3. There's massive peer pressure and stage fright. They might think something like this: "This is all in good fun. If I don't play along, I'm sabotaging the show! All the attention will be on me! And not in a good way.Do i really want to confront the audience-controlling confident Hypnotist? It's easier to choose to believe, that i can't help but play along." What this video doesn't include is that in stage hypnosis shows there is usually a huge prep talk where: 1. "Good subjects" are pretty much framed to be "great, amazing, bla", 2. Where the idea that pretending to be hypnotized and not going along with suggestions would make a person fraudulent and a bad or unhealthy person. After all you volunteered to take part, haven't you? And just pretending to by hypnotized wouldn't be ok, would it? Its a catch22. Either go along with every suggestion, or "you aren't really hypnotized." Also, even if a person said to him/herself: "I'm gonna play along at first, but then stop to expose the hypnotist." Once they're up there on stage, stage fright will hit them like a truck. There mind will go like this: "Will i really be able to stand up to this highly experienced charismatic person? Won't i be the center of a attention in a really negative way? Will he try even harder to hypnotized me? Until i really can't resist, maybe? I guess i better play along." What is making people go along (consciously or subconsciously) is: Stagefright, peer-pressure, and - yes - prolly a little bit of trance - but that mostly serves as an excuse for the subjects to not feel that their being overrolled through confusion-tactics and deception. Also, so the subjects don't have to feel guilty. Keep in mind: All the people essentially volunteered to have all those things done to them! Suggestible people might eventually feel like, they can't help it. The reality is likely: They enjoy not feeling responsible, wich is relieving. They enjoy the attention. They don't really WAN'T to resist because they feel it's safer and easier to play along. They could. Hypnosis can't just create assassins... Just imaging for a second how the world would look if it was this easy to manipulate other people. There'd be no mental illness. They'd just be sending hypnotist as ambassadors and overthrow any dictator in a "snap". This is something theatrical and sensational, that people choose to believe because its exciting and it dims down responsibility for their own actions. Derren admitted more than once that it wouldn't work like this in real live. The context that it's a show makes it possible for people to follow suggestions that they usually wouldn't. Also: One of the subjects seems to be an actor...
@@NotSandhorst-- The doctors are just covering their asses. The CIA was able to make young hypnotized girls shoot eachother with realistic looking airpistols in documented MK-Ultra experiments. I've seen the files.
Well - I remember the last time for me! Three weeks ago, when I passed out and hit the floor, giving myself quite the concussion. For the first half hour, I thought I'd fallen because I woke up on the floor with no idea how I got there. The memories came back gradually after that...
Only thing I thought was strange is the reaction of the audience. Would have thought they would be screaming unless the entire mezzanine was in on it and perhaps it takes people closest to the shooting to start the panic.
It would be interesting to hear from someones who was actually there at the talk to confirm what the sequence of events were - the time frame between Stephen getting shot and Derren appearing etc. Usually all theaters in the UK there's a safety curtain which drops down stage front should anything amiss happens during a performance. Can't see from the footage of the auditorium if there was one but certainly there were curtains by the wings. I think after the initial shock of the shots most normal punters attending would have twigged that something was up - there would've been no way at the very least the people back stage on the wings etc would've let me lie there 'dead' for however long before Derren popped his head up. (I was at a play once where one of the actors had an full on seizure and keeled over mid performance, curtain came down straight away.) The people around the shooter as the commentary pointed out were security and firearm experts and other personnel for the shooters safe keeping. Remember he was under deep hypnosis, and would have been very dangerous to spook him by starting a panic etc - notice how calm they all were after the shots were fired and whispering in his ear. Speaking off people reactions my only observation to all of this its that they couldn't possibly pull a stunt like this now - imagine the fucking pandemonium it'll cause in light of everything that's happened in the last couple years. And to think that this programme was only aired in 2011. What a horrible sad times we live in.
It appeared that some assumed it was a joke. In that moment you almost don’t know how to react. Either they wait for a chain reaction of people panicking to also panic, or they were waiting for more shots to know they’re also in danger
1. They werent told, as he said - only the ones near him, the rest are normal (unless thsi is all staged as most Derren Brown vids are, no offence) 2. Its stephen Fry in a theatre, managing to scream 3 tiems ebfore dying, which is possible, but it didnt really look realistic, and they couldve htought it a joke by him. 3. What woudl you do? panick and make yourself ook weak infron of a shooter, run away to be picekd off... just belnd in.. wait for panic... then join in toblend in - human instinct.. weirder than you think.
@@wyrdplae8586 Brown has done several things of this order. Watch Derren Brown "The Heist" and Derren Brown The Art Robbery". My favourite is when he convinces an American university student that he, Derren Brown, has made the sun disappear. The student, as you can imagine, becomes anxious and disoriented. He. also, did a programme debunking psychics. During this he did fake horoscopes for a bunch of American volunteers. They did not know who Brown was, they were under the impression he was an astrologer. I won't spoil it by telling you anymore, but well worth the watching.
Derren is a hypnotist. It isn't as weird and hoodoo as people think it is. It's literally just lowering someone's defenses with confidence and planting ideas in their head. Their expectations do the actual work.
Some hypnotists compare a hypnotic state to driving to a familiar place and all of a sudden you've realized that you've gone through the motions of going through 2-3 intersections, etc without being fully aware...you've used the accelerator, brake, turn signals without much thought
that's cuz most of the horror movies we see are full of bs lol. We're not very afraid of such bs cuz we know that can't happen, but this ... this can happen and probably happened in the past...
I’ve seen this done in my class. A hypnotist came into my class for showing what hypnosis is and what it is not and it’s seriously incredible. I didn’t believe it at first until a classmate asked me what happened because he was confused on our reactions after his awakening. The last thing he remembered was the clock being at 1:20pm. That time he was awakened , it was 2:00
yes, after 1st seeing Derren Brown, idk 20 years ago or so, I started reading and watching everything, hypnosis, NLP, and related info I could get my hands on. Then I wanted to see if it worked... I assure you it works. It is scary, the power of hypnosis.
I don't understand why people watch this, then complain & say it's all tosh. I think what Derren does is amazing, there's a real science to it. Can't wait to see what else he has it store!
@@dj71162 i love how convinced people are that he's using the power of suggestion. it's almost a testament to how he's actually suggesting to the audience that what he's doing is "real", and not a trick.
@@ImHeadshotSniper Although Derren Brown definitely is an illusionist as much as a hypnotist, I recommend watching this experiment with the commentary. Keep in mind he took a large group and deliberately selected the very most suggestible person.
creepy. That guys was so nice and trusting. It goes to show you the power in this. Now I wonder if that person really knew that he killed bobby Kennedy.
A carefully done job would leave a well-chosen target completely blank, unable to remember anything they did. Not even flashbacks of senseless details like you see in bad movies - nothing at all, and they'd also often suffer from acute temporal confusion on top of that, which would make them appear nothing short of batshit crazy in the eyes of your average police officer or civil judge. You'd assume that a job such as Robbie Kennedy would've been done very carefully. Also, based on the pictures, that man who was convicted does seem like a suitable target - in the sense of reception to hypnotic persuasion. It's something that you can easily see in the eyes sometimes, and in this man's eyes you can read both this "reception quality" and also strong killing intent - not necessarily the "will" to kill someone premeditately, but the (often un-self-conscious) "heart" or strength to do so should the situation require it. Odds are he's telling the truth
Your insistence in multiple threads of this suggesting his atheism is frankly very weird. While I myself am an atheist and I could argue the nature of atheism is to question and not be controlled, when your god controls everything you do in your life (the grand plan as they say) but it's irrelevant to try and pin someone's characteristics on a single thread such as faith, age, gender or ethnicity.
no I completely disagree....Christians are very much "red pilled" to the true nature of our reality..Atheists are the "Blue pilled" ones asleep trapped in the matrix of this fallen dimension.......... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OC0kReipITA.html
I love this man. If I could sit down for a day and chat with any person, alive living, it would be Derren. His intellect makes me want to have him as my forever companion.
With hypnosis being able to disrupt sensitivity to pain like the ice water experiment, it’s a shame it isn’t being used the same way to fight the opioid crisis. If it could only be used to disassociate people from the painful symptoms of withdrawal, it could do a world of good for a lot of people in dire need of help.
Defeating withdrawal is only a small part of overcoming addiction. While a lot of non addicts seem to think that beating withdrawal means you no longer are addicted, it's quite far from the truth. The mental battle afterwards can go on for years, and for some it's a lifetime of mental struggle. Sobriety is painfully boring. You go from years of intense pleasure and having no problem with wasting time, to being unable to feel anything and feeling like every second is an eternity. The anxiety of depression of that alone is awful, but then you have to battle the true reasons for your addiction and the problems you have been running from this whole time - only this time you have to face it without drugs numbing you and it's then you realize just how fucked you are. Opiates ruin your life, sober or not.
oh my God this is so incredible?? like first of all i am So thankful its available for free on youtube bc it wouldve been a Pain to try and watch otherwise, then the whole concept and idea is AMAZING, and i esPECIALLY love how theres little bits of info and the science behind it (like how wording can be used and what effects it has in influencing someone); ive seen the recording of the live show and was sort of missing that element of the science and explanation behind it there, but this i think strikes a perfect balance of giving background information and keeping the mystery
The problem with the polygraph test is that they only tell blood pressure, heart rate, and your sweat. Polygraphs don't tell if your lying, you may just be nervous like me or can lie easy. Even the guy who who made the polygraph said it didn't tell if someone is lying or not.
The point of the polygraph wasn’t to tell whether he was lying or not. They were attempting to see if the amnesia worked. The system correctly drew the conclusion that he was telling the truth because his brain didn’t register the story being told as truth
Derren is fully devoted to his work. I can't imagine the number of hours he has committed to it. I respect so much that he makes a point to tell his audiences that he is trained and uses slight of hand and mental tricks, among other things. In other words, he makes it clear that he doesn't truly practice black majick - a dark subject that many would want no part of.
Watches Derren Brown then thinks there's such a thing as "majick". You've seen proof that this bloke can achieve better effects than Jesus, then he explains how it's all done. And there you are thinking there's supernatural powers in the world.
The confusion in those bright blue eyes...man...this is terrifying. Make you start to realize what automatic beings we are...how our lives are running out in fairly preprogrammed bits. Who's your programmer? The books you read, and the people you gather with.
Wow... just wow.. This is amazing. Like the word "amazing" can't express how actually AMAZING this is.... wow like psychology and the human mind is beyond my understanding.
RFK was killed by a bullet to the ‘back’ of his head; Sirhan was ‘in front’ of him,, & of the 3 bullets they removed from RFK - none of those bullets came from Sirhans gun...
I really like the show, but the statement that if someone was faking, they wouldn’t throw the acid, I think is someone was faking, they would know that no show would actually give them real acid to throw in someone’s face.
The whole hydrochloric acid test should make no sense for any logically-minded person. If you are a person who is not actually under hypnotic influence but nonetheless "plays along", you should realize that no way in hell would anyone actually get splashed in the face with anything remotely acidic, let alone an extremely strong corrosive like hydrochloric acid -- forget the lawsuits; no "volunteer" would even be standing in front of the acid in the first place if they were actually risking getting their face burnt off. Therefore, you would conclude that no acid is going to be splashed on anybody because it won't be real acid at all. Therefore, you may safely splash the "acid" at someone, as if you were genuinely hypnotic. Therefore, the test would completely fall apart and be rendered useless. Or you could just be a complete psychopath who would splash potential acid on someone, regardless of whether (you know) it's real or not. Then the test would fail as well; the main assumption/logic behind is that conscious people would out themselves by acting in non-psychopathic ways, and this clearly doesn't work with psychopaths.
Fun video, Derren Brown is quite a showman. I haven't finished it but a couple things I noticed which have probably already been mentioned with 1,000+ comments. The "heat sensing video" showing how cold their arms are actually appears to be detecting some kind of clear dye; there is no gradient from cool to warm on the arms, instead an immediate cutoff at the part of the arm dipped in the water, and there are smears of blue/purple on their bathrobes just as if they'd gotten some of the liquid on their robes. Also, no recoil on the handgun in the expert marksman section...
When your arm is submerged in water that cold for that long, there's of course going to be a drastic difference in body heat, cutting off at the water line. And isn't it plausible that a little bit of water did, in fact, get on the robes? Of course it is.
The variation of handgun he is using has a bolt where the force acts on to take the impact of the shot to reduce kickback. Also, in one of the shots, you can see the paper target wobble a bit. Which is what you would expect if shot by a bullet. You can see in the slowmo shots that there is kickback. It’s just small which is what you would expect in a low-caliber pistol. Pistols aren’t like rifles. They snap back a tiny bit instead of hammering into the shooter’s shoulder. You can see the snap in the slowmo
The power of suggestion there is more to this life and this world than we can even begin to imagine Chris becomes a amazing shot from a suggestion from Derren, just imagine what else a human could achieve from suggestion. i think there i ancient power of the mind that we have forgotten and chemicals and wifi fluoride is taking us further away from that knowledge and power that we all have in our minds
I think it’s cute when they imply at the shooting range is a completely different location than the squirt gun portion of the video! I love this show don’t get me wrong D!
@Siedler Joe but he wasn't accountable or had knowledge of what he was doing. Its essentially as though he was unconscious and someone used his finger to pull the trigger. It is unfair.
If he was mind controlled, then that would be a defense, so, I believe it would be manslaughter instead of murder (depends on the lawyer and the ruling, could even be found innocent). But, it's impossible to say if he truly was hypnotised or he just faked it to try and get out of it.
Its more complicated than that. The voice/picture/situation quality does the difference. And he clearly hasn't come out of trance 100% when they showed the video..
The most interesting part of this is the acid test, because the assassination of an unamed North Asian countries sibling was assassinated in such a way. Not so much in the same way, but interestingly in the same way.
i would to know where this guy is at now and if he experiences PTSD.... also i think he might now have a license to kill...? i mean if he ever does shoot someone in assassination style how can a judge find him guilty when he would actually be considered a victim...
He shoots because part of him knows that it's safe, just like in the 'acid test.' The study that bit's based on (Orne & Evans '65) basically concluded that people pretty much think 'fuck it, this is an experiment and nobody's in any danger.' Even control subjects who weren't hypnotised still complied with the instruction to throw the acid, all giving that same explanation. Doesn't rule out the possibility that, with enough conditioning, someone might feel that safe, artificial context extended to somewhere very real like, ya know, a hotel in California. You've really gotta wonder why Sirhan - a man who's now been imprisoned for nearly 50 years - would choose to cling to his 'brainwashing' story when it's only hurting his chances of ever getting parole.
during the acid test one subject didn't even look at Darren or his handkerchief and so his response would have been triggered by trust in the fact that what they have isn't acid and secondly that the people around them have thrown their liquid in the face of their "target".
If you are that suggestible, it's not a good idea to be listening to random suggestions. If you want to quit smoking however, it should be easy for you.
While hypnosis certainly does exist as a real phenomena, and does have benefits for habit-changing, trauma processing and pain relief among other things, the variant of stage hypnosis or programming shown here is absolutely bogus. Some of the pointers that show this program overall was staged include Chris not swearing when suddenly jumping out of the ice bath, and the audience all seeming relatively unmoved by the Stephen Fry assassination despite Derren's claim they were not forewarned in any way. And of course if there are areas of this so-called experiment that we know are bogus such as those, then the credibility of the entire experiment is called into question. Real scientists doing real experiments don't obscure or tidy up parts of them in order to make the conclusion more convincing.
i think the biggest message Americans should take from this is the crowds reaction to the shooting or lack of it, in the US there would be absolute mayhem and people would think they are going to die, but in this country and the rest of the civilised world people feel safe and know they are safe, when in a theatre and hearing a gun shot
So now all we have to do is find chris and put some polka dots in front of his face and tell him to sleep and he will just give you any info you want ? Pizza on chris anyone ?
