Designing Character Classes

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In my second design notes video about Baptism of Fire, I talk about character classes, and how to craft them to provide Niche Protection.
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@moodymac Месяц назад

I'm not really in the market for a Polish setting RPG, but the book looks great. Congratulations. I hope it continues to sell well.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Thanks!

@Dyrnwyn Месяц назад

Man, that's what I was thinking as well, but I got it anyway, and I'm glad I did! The monsters and magic alone are well worth the purchase, plus you get items and tons of useful tables that you can use in other settings.

@AndyReichert0 Месяц назад

it's not about the setting. i'll likely use a less lore-heavy setting. but it's worth buying just to have a system and content designed to be played, based on decades of actually playing, and having classes that are believable, like "awakened" npcs, rather than forced and generic tropes.

@Dyrnwyn Месяц назад

Hey Pundit, I got Baptism of Fire yesterday. I held off because I didn't have much interest in 11th century Poland as a setting, but damn, you certainly kindled that interest. I feel I could easily do an exciting monster-of-the-week campaign using your bestiary, and I love all the random tables.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

That is hugely wonderful feedback to hear. If you bought it off DTRPG, then please do me the favor, in a day or two (I think you have a to wait a little after purchase) to write that as a brief review on the product page.

@danielgoldberg5357 Месяц назад

This video came at exactly the right time! I am planning to design some new character classes for my upcoming homebrew campaign. I will be using the Greyhawk Grognard's Adventures Dark and Deep ruleset, but I'm sure the advice in this video will still be helpful. Thanks!

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Glad to hear it. Spread the word, share the video!

@danielgoldberg5357 Месяц назад

@@RPGPundit I must say, a Polish setting RPG is certainly a change from the usual English Isles/French fare! Good luck!

@Kill2Hard101 Месяц назад

Oh yeah I definitely will be checking out that Pundit Files!

@FreeBroccoli Месяц назад

I don't place a ton of value on historical authenticity (I like pulp, personally), but when I saw the level advancement tables in L&D I knew I wanted to use them in whatever kind of game I run. Giving the players the choice between a customized build and more power overall is a great tradeoff.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Thanks. I certainly love it in my games!

@simonpearson7044 Месяц назад

Love the cat and the book, adding it to my collection

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Awesome, thank you!

@ryannilsson7955 Месяц назад

This looks truly awesome. Very well done, for us mere mortals. And for Meatball, I've no doubt that she is dispassionately and passively pleased with your work and will even condescend to sit on it once in a little while! Is there a pronunciation guide in the back somewhere? That could be very helpful for players. That, or a pronunciation given in parentheses at the first instance of a peculiar word.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

No to both, but I gave some very basic notes about the pronunciation of certain letters.

@davidm6387 Месяц назад

Kitteh 😺

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Spread the Meatball, share the video!

@Rajaat99 Месяц назад

I am currently running a L&D game. My wife is playing a fighter and is determined to roll randomly, when her character levels up, every single time.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

That's fine though. Most players will choose that, because it is the best overall benefit. The only reason to choose, and thus sacrifice one option, is if there's something you feel you desperately need.

@TheGenericavatar Месяц назад

Congratulations on the sales success! Most ancient sailors didn't know how to swim. It reduced the number of sailors going AWOL by jumping overboard when they were near a port. Does the Holy Warrior get those bonuses against multi-level marketers (ex, Amway people) and telemarketers? >;)

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

That's correct, hardly anyone knew how to swim for most of human history.

@Shamustodd1 Месяц назад

I'm from the thaco era and I much prefer ascending AC. It's much more intuitive and all around makes sense when trying to keep a theme or feel in your ruleset.

@joelkurowski7129 Месяц назад

I never really liked thac0. I even tried switching to a different version published in Dragon. the system is so unintuitive that I would forget in the middle of combat how it was supposed to be calculated. Some people can grok it, and some people just can't. I'm one of the second category. Ascending AC is just best.

@Shamustodd1 Месяц назад

@@joelkurowski7129 My cousin who was one of my gaming buddies was also a DM came up with basically what we call ascending AC back in late 80's. I was actually resistant at first but the ease of use won me over because it just made sense, flowed well and felt right.

@diegoborges3716 Месяц назад

I'm totally indiferent to that. Growing playing 2e AD&D, Thac0 never was an issue for me. Yeah, ascending AC is more practical. But Thac0 may be also instinctive.

@MogofWar Месяц назад

I don't have a problem with THAC0 but I like how 3rd Edition implemented ascending AC in a manner that mathematically identical... Incidentally, I worked out a descending armor class algorithm that would work off attack bonuses instead of THAC0.(Fix target number to 21 and add AC as a bonus to the roll.) But the purpose of that algorithm is less for actually playing a game and more for converting a statblock on a very short notice.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

The only thing I was saying is that strangely some people think ALL OSR games use ThAC0 or descending AC. For those who like those mechanics, that's fine. It's just not considered a standard of the OSR.

@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec Месяц назад

2:06 I'm fine with 20+ minutes of meatball.

@MatthewCenance Месяц назад

What do you think the thought process of the creation of the D&D 3e and 3.5e era classes were? And what do you think the thought processes of the creation of the fifth edition era classes were?

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

3e was, as I said, designed for a kind of "balance" which diminished niche protection. Not that it did the job very well, because some classes were much better than others, especially as they scaled with level. They were also designed with system-mastery in mind, where the more obsessively a player read the rules, the more able he was to make a vastly overpowered character (with things like feat selections, etc). I don't have to think much about the 5e classes because I was there. They were designed to be a mild kind of niche protection, though it seemed like a big deal compared to 4e (where essentially every class did everything), and to be easily playable by casual players who didn't know all the rules.

@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec Месяц назад

3:35 The whole Thaco issue & miss understanding about the OSR is a good reason why to do a book and/or video about the history of the osr & explain the eras/gens/waves/types of osr games.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Didn't I do that back when I started?

@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec Месяц назад

@RPGPundit I will double check. But sometimes it's important to do updated & expanded videos on old topics. Particularly if the videos are more than 5 years old.

@misterballista Месяц назад

I don't know about buying more of his RPG's but whenever I watch a Pundit video I always feel like taking up pipe smoking.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Why not both?

@darkwielder2088 Месяц назад

What are your thoughts on barbarians vs fighters? Hear a lot that “well they’re basically the same or one fights with a loincloth and axe, the other plate and sword” so I was curious on your thoughts of what is the important difference.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

To me, in terms of Niches, the Fighter is more skilled at fighting, the barbarian is tougher (better hp and saves).

@kamui003 Месяц назад

We all know that Meatball is the real star of the channel

@dmain6735 Месяц назад

Pundit files eh. I'll look for it.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

The link is in the description of the video. It's the redroom store! moordereht.com

@fleetcenturion Месяц назад

Sadly, I've already seen BoF digitally on several Chinese sites that I can't name here (because RU-vid won't let me!). Don't blame me; I bought my copy this time. 😃

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

We just hit Gold Bestseller, so that sort of thing doesn't worry me too much.

@fleetcenturion Месяц назад

@@RPGPundit - Just giving you a heads-up... not that there's much that can be done.

@lasombra120680 13 дней назад

This system has FIGHTING-MAN!?!?! LFG 👏 👏 👏

@steelmongoose4956 Месяц назад

Do holy men have to be played as Tom Hanks?

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

lol no

@libertyprime2013 Месяц назад

I am curious.. I will buy your books as soon as I move. I collect rule books for RPGs and war games. I’m currently very close to collecting every 40 k codex after which I am going to collect all the Warhammer fantasy books that I can.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Well, I'm sure you'll enjoy Baptism of Fire.

@revshad4226 Месяц назад

Kat approved.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Spread the Meatball, share the video!

@josephmoreau9615 Месяц назад

Can you offer advice on how to find a good TTRPG layout pro? I have a personal project that I would like to have laid out.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

I'm not really sure. I don't hire people, I just get a deal with a small press publisher. But they make a deal with me because I'm me.

@raveneyes5507 Месяц назад

A bit of a odd question here. I am returning to the hobby after a long break and and looking at the various systems and still figuring what one to chose that would best fit the setting I am making, what kind of setting, a medieval one, but populated by anthropomorphic races. Much like the Historia campaign setting, in fact, very much that and Redwall. But, I hate 5th. And now the question, would I be able to mix both Baptism of Fire and the L&D classes and rules mix well being brought to 1 setting? I love the class design.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Yes. L&D and Baptism of Fire have the same core system. Some classes (like fighter, or thief) are literally identical in both games. There's some stuff in L&D that isn't Baptism of Fire (like alchemy, and slightly more advanced armor, firearms) and more stuff in Baptism of Fire that isn't in L&D, including new magic, magic items, more background tables, more criticals, etc, and also a whole different set of random tables. But they're essentially the same game and you can move stuff from one game to the other without any change.

@christopherchase8253 Месяц назад

RPGPundit- Any plans for a GM screen for BOF ?

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

I don't think it's planned for, that kind of non-book product is a bit trickier. But I'm not the one to ask. You need to check with Mad Scribe Games.

@Barthenn Месяц назад

He mentions early in the video OSR game usually have Facko what is that? If anyone can explain, I just made a search and found nothing...I must not be writting it correctly.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

ThAC0, "To-hit Armor Class 0", it was a mechanic from 2e AD&D. In fact, almost NO OSR game uses it.

@iratevagabond204 Месяц назад

Do you feel classes are superior to classless systems?

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

It can depend on the genre; but the more a game setting/genre is based on archetypal concepts the more important class-based systems are. Also, most systems that don't have classes end up creating mushy characters that aren't really anything except based on system mastery. That is if you define "classless" as "you pick and choose which abilities you have". In many ways, even in a setting/genre not based on different heroic archetypes, its probably better to have a "single class system" rather than a classless one. So for example, my Invisible College game essentially has one class: agent of the Invisible College.

@crapphone7744 Месяц назад

You should have cut this after Meatball meowed. After that everything worth saying had been said.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Spread the Meatball, share the video!

@destroso Месяц назад

Some asshole, paddy’s parlor, said you have no original rules when I said Shadowdark took from you.

@destroso Месяц назад

Remind me but I think you said she took the random abilities at level up from you?

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Oh yeah, he's ridiculously obsessed with me. One of many losers over the past 19 years or so...

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

I didn't say that exactly. I said that she got almost all of the rules that differ from standard D&D from OSR sources. And I pointed out that almost all of those kinds of mechanics in Shadowdark (except for that weird rule about torches) all appear in Lion & Dragon. That doesn't necessarily mean that she got it directly from me. Though the random-benefits by level thing is not very common in OSR at all...

@gyorgyor7765 Месяц назад

Cute cat.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

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@user-yl9pc5dz7c Месяц назад

You might feel that +5% is numerically significant, but in practice +1 feels virtually useless because a d20 is so swingy. +3 is about the minimum amount that makes a perceptible difference in rolls.

@RPGPundit Месяц назад

Well that's the thing, those +1s add up.