It’s not what you’d “rather” do, it’s what you are mandated to do. It’s not your choice! Were these people raised without following rules? If so, shame on their parents for not teaching them. Why are those who follow the rules picking up the tab for those who don’t?
@@CSPORTPDX Not really. Rules equal order, responsibility and respect for each other. There’s nothing wrong with having rules. There is something wrong with people doing whatever they feel like with no regard for anyone or anything else.
There's people were raised just like that woman sitting on the swing were raising her kid the kid was reaching for the microphone she said no and the kids started whining that's the kind of people and children that were raising that these people are raising they're raising kids with our boundaries they're raising kids with that rules this is freaking ridiculous I'm sick of the left wing radical le sbos
Let’s cleanup the homeless camps near schools so the children don’t see just HOW irresponsible the adults are! Voting in the SAME people over and over again!
There literally needs to be "roving patrols" of police 24/7 to keep these homeless encampments away from schools. Portland is in a sorry state due to decades of coddling the homeless.
@@skyisreallyhigh3333 The word fascism is "over-used" to describe maintaining a standard that works for the "tax-paying majority" of the U.S. population.
"I believe our city and our government should give us more resources" aka "I believe I shouldn't have to work for anything, I should get everything for free, and be able to be in everyone's way because the world revolves around me"
It's time to start using tough love on these people. Give them the choice to get into shelters, move in with family/friends or get out of town. Letting people live like this is not helping them at all. It's unhealthy, unsanitary and unfair to taxpayers and businesses. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Street homeless are fentanyl addicts, and they reject shelters, rehab and such programs. The only thing they really wanna is to be as close as possible to their fentanyl dealers.
To add to your point, another thing that Portland could do is establish "residency requirements" for the services they provide struggling people within their city limits. In other words, only make subsidies available to people who can "prove" that they've lived in Portland for 5 years or longer. That would dramatically cut down on people from "outside of Portland" (other parts of Oregon and the rest of the U.S.) migrating to Portland to receive services that "should be" going to actual Portland residents who have fallen on hard times. Instead, what we've seen are the taxpayers of Portland sustaining the lives of people from all over the country, who "arrive in Portland" with no money, no job, and no place to live. That is a horrendously unfair burden on working Portland residents, and the city needs policies to curtail outsiders from adding to its homeless population.
They can't stay in shelters for very long. I think unless you do your own research stating these biased remarks makes us a part of the problem. I would like to see any one of you attempt to get your basic needs met after a sudden disability or a domestic abuse situation. I would think your tone would change . 31 tenants are being evicted from one affordable housing and I just spoke to another property manager that stares they are no longer going to do business with Home Forward. So that means out of the dozen or so properties they own they will all be made to leave. So it will only get worse. Not to mention once 2023 comes rent will be increased another 14%. This year my rent increased $192 .00. 14% of $2200 is $308.00 more. You know people are already struggling with inflation. We all need to stop viewing reality from our little bubbles be abuse if we don't acknowledge reality for what it is then we may all be heading for the streets or shelters. Landlords are not going to hesitate to increase rent.
@@Scorch1028 WOW😳🤔That is the most outlandish statement I've ever heard. Seriously, Oregon has immigrants, refugees, families, unaccompanied youth, women and men who fled abuse, children who fled sex abuse, our veterans, the ones that fought for all of us. This government received $3.32 billion in July, so instead of mouthing off about those who have no money, no water, no personal space take it up with your government. Ask aour legislation what the hell they are doing. Because these comments say more about what you avoid in yourself than it does our neighbors on the street. Btw, there are over 14,000 homeless in Oregon.
We need to force these people into rehab. I'd rather my taxes go to making them get help instead of cleaning up after them. Absolute bs. Protesting... She needs to get a job and better herself. Not camp where children play and learn.
Just telll the kids the homeless are MAGA fascists and it's their duty to beat them up everyday. It will make the kids tougher and the homeless wil eventually tire of having hundreds of kids kicking them in the shins. Win win.
I've been around some of these folks, they know how to work the system, stay clean long enough to get money, which they just put in their hand, and say good luck, then instead of housing, they use it for drugs, and get back in rehab, and do it all over again. They're not dumb, they know how to fool do-gooders, that's what they've done all their lives. And we foot the bill, we're paying them to do this, well, not me, I got the hell out.
Street homeless are fentanyl addicts, and they reject shelters, rehab, and such programs. The only thing they really wanna is to be as close as possible to their fentanyl dealers.
@@GoodGuy-wq4md What about long-term rehab? I don't know how Oregon works but NJ only funds short-term rehabs. Addicts need a good year worth of rehab. I would be willing to pay more taxes to fund long-term rehabs for anyone who needs it.
Ugh, why is it that most of us have spent our lives following the laws and rules. Throughout adversity, we’ve all struggled, but we never just put up a tent wherever we wanted to. Life can be a bitch, but it’s a choice to say, ‘screw you,’ and pop up a tent where ever you want. Our society is crumbling when we condone this behavior.
This is a huge problem. Enforcing rules for some (tax payers) and ignoring rules for the "poor" or colored people creates distain and people start to ignore law.
That's true, and to build on your point, if you or I were to walk up to a school fence, and we stood there for more than 5 minutes staring at the school, we could expect a cop to approach us, question us, and tell us to "Move along." Yet, when the cops encounter a homeless person who's standing near a school fence, shooting up drugs, taking a dump, or soliciting prostitution, the cops handle this person with kid gloves. If they tell a vagrant to "Move along", that person returns, there are no consequences for them, like there would be for you or I. That is NOT "equal protection under the law", under the 14th Amendment. That is vagrants being treated differently, facing no punishment for their obvious criminal behavior on public property. I was recently at a local park after 11pm, and a cop told me I had to leave because the park closes at 11. Well, he completely ignored the homeless people who "stay in the park overnight". There again, is unequal protection under the law.
LMFAO, you know nothing . You are a very easily manipulated person and that is ok. You have been fooled into thinking these are not your people. These are Americans your brothers, sisters, mothers, Fathers, and our future. Their wellbeing is your responsibility and your duty. A.M.E.R.I.C.A.N'S All Mankind Equal Religion Individual Color Age Name Society.
The city ordinance is very reasonable. Just keep the encampments at least 500 feet from any city school. 500 feet is less than one-tenth of a mile. Unfortunately, when someone is mentally ill and/or baked from drug use, they cannot be reasoned with. So, they refuse to move their tent a few blocks down the road.
Most of these homeless scenarios are already illegal and have been for decades. In many/most cases these laws have NOT been formally repealed, they are still on the books. What is different now versus the past is that today’s city officials no longer have the will to ENFORCE the laws.
So she and her partner won't go into a shelter bc the "other" people make them uncomfortable? Yet she is okay that kids walk by a homeless encampment feeling far more uncomfortable and vulnerable? Hmmm what a double standard she presents.
While it's true that many homeless shelters have mentally unstable people living in them, most city blocks in Portland do not have a school on them. There is plenty of space for these people to set up living quarters away from school buildings. I suspect that this woman's mental illness and/or drug abuse makes her more unreasonable than the average person, who could just move their tent 500+ feet away from a school. That's not a lot to ask.
APL Lu Shelters are disgusting places where you can catch covid and they let anybody stay their low life criminals drug user's alcoholics with felony records and more i was homeless twice in my life i never felt safe staying in a shelter they need to have a separate shelter for normal people without criminal records that are just down on their luck
@@Burrier82 You can catch covid at the super market. Covid isn't the largest concern. Shelters at least have toilets, showers, where to wash up. On the street, the homeless delicate and urinate on the street and go weeks without a shower. Honeless leave theor drug needles, and there is a rampid spread of staph, TB, hepatitis.
@Duffelbag Drag, Really? I am not a holy rocker calling out to Jesus every five minutes, but the bible does speak of days when people will not be able to tell the difference between a male and female. Thank you for letting me know.
Why stay by schools or parks. That is ridiculous. It’s as if the don’t care because their situation is not good. Yes, there are people using public spots as restrooms. My neighbors had to chase away a homeless woman who tried to use our recycling area as a restroom. I moved to Portland in 2017. It’s only gotten worse. These homeless don’t want to be in shelters because they want what people go to work to earn or they want to use drugs. Either way something needs to be done.
I am not from America and this whole homeless situation ABSOLUTELY APPAULS me . Why are they not arrested and put in prison., why do they get away with EVERYTHING. Why are they above the law!?
Street homeless are fentanyl addicts, and politicians in Portland are woke. Woke believes criminals are victims of capitalism, systemic racism, society failed them, and other vague ideas.
@@brianeverett5560 No ABSOLUTELY correct its not illegal to be broke. However, it IS ILLEGAL to shootup on the streets, harrasspeople for money, deficate and urinate on the streets, steal , vandalise property, have sex on the streets to name just a few of their illegal acts!
There are a number of points to address in your question: 1) Being locked up in jail is actually an "improvement" for the homeless in many respects. In jail, they get "3 hots and a cot" (3 hot meals and a bed to sleep in). 2) No one can be held in jail for longer than 1 week for violating a city ordinance like camping in front of a school. In fact, some homeless people deliberately break the law, just to be given the stability that life behind bars provides them with. 3) The answer to this problem is to have the police move these homeless encampments the moment that they appear.
Give them tickets for littering, loitering and/or trespassing. Arrest the repeat offenders and dispose of all their stuff. Not dealing with them will be dangerous for them at some point. Residents will take matters into their own hands eventually.
Ticketing only works on people who have the money to pay their fines. What Portland needs are "roving patrols" made up of citizens and police to continuously push these vagrants away from the streets and sidewalks near school buildings. The ordinance is very clear: "Encampments cannot be within 500 feet of any school property." 500 feet is less than one-tenth of a mile. That isn't too far of a distance for people to pack up their gear and move to. Many of these people have carts that roll, so 500 feet is even less of an issue.
I agree! If you are choosing to be a violator, then there should be consequences. Leave or we’ll trash your belongings. I’m not even from OR but I’m shocked that people let these encampments stand so long. Some people would set 🔥 to it (dark humor, not serious). They need to be relocated 100+ miles to the boonies.
We have been dealing with this for years and its only getting worse and yet we try to hide the cause of it all. Say it with me, DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS.
0:52 lol Sometimes you don't even have to point out stupid. You don't want to stay there because some of the people there make you uncomfortable? SMH Why do you think people don't want you nears schools, genius.
Given the lackluster way that Ted Wheeler handled the George Floyd riots in Portland, I'm not surprised that he has this much difficulty keeping homeless encampments 500 feet from the city's schools.
@Duffelbag Drag Yeah, Ted Wheeler is more concerned about the rights of rioters and “crack-head bums” than he is about school children or the working people of Portland.
These people are not drug addicts or homeless, they are environmentally conscious campers. In these progressive times, it's so sickening to watch these over-privileged crybabies punch down on environmentalists.
Homeless people feel so entitled because they just don't give a rat's arse about anyone or anything.......... Give me this, give me that.... maybe go out and EARN it!!!!!!!!! I have no compassion for these dregs of society.......
I wouldn’t let my kids walk that route to school. Period. Not if they’re are pooping and peeing everywhere, leaving garbage etc etc. But I bet they wouldn’t bus them either to avoid it. It’s not safe for them at all.
Tent is being kept up in protest…. Lol, that’s a good one if I’ve ever heard it. City won’t do anything about it. Has the city done anything about it yet? Exactly.
I'd be supportive if there was a shortage of jobs in Portland, but there's not. There are SO many jobs right now...we can't seem to hire anyone, nobody wants to work. Housing vouchers? Just no. There's plenty of affordable housing within a bus ride away once you have a job.
Unfortunately, many of these unemployed people have issues with mental illness and drug abuse -- which is WHY they're homeless to begin with. When I was a kid, we had D.A.R.E. programs in school, because back then our society "knew" what illegal drug use leads to -- "homelessness", and that's if you're lucky enough to not overdose or not get murdered by someone you owe money to, because you're hooked on drugs. Sadly, the Left in America got rid of D.A.R.E. programs because they said that D.A.R.E. was "offensive" to people who have made street drug use a part of their lifestyle. In other words, it's "insensitive" to criticize the most unproductive members of our society as "junkies, burn-outs, and losers." So, D.A.R.E. went away, and illicit drug use has been normalized as a part of our culture.
A lot of our homeless would probably not get hired. It can be rough even in portland to get hired. But doesn't mean if someone really wanted to they couldn't.
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
It isn't just the "government" telling these homeless people to stay 500 feet away from a school, it's the "will of the people" saying it. Parents and school faculty members don't want vagrants to be too close to school children throughout the day. Where I live, if I walk up to the school fence and I stand there for more than 5 minutes, I can expect the police to be called -- even though I'm not technically breaking any law. It rouses suspicion. I understand that dangerous individuals often stay in homeless shelters, but that doesn't mean that un-sheltered people can't move 500 feet away from a school. The city ordinance says: "Stay 500 feet away from any school." Period. 500 feet is less than one-tenth of a mile. It's a short f*cking walk for people with the "strength & energy" to haul 50 lbs. of gear around with them every time they move!
Nothing is being done because Portlanders have gotten used to homelessness. Also, mental health services is lacking here and there's just an inordinate amount of people with all sorts of mental issues that would take a lot of resources and WILL to address.
Taxing us more and clearing out encampments every week clearly isn’t the answer. They don’t want to get positive, productive help, they want to be non abiding and get everything for nothing. Everywhere I go, there’s advertising for work. They don’t want to work, they don’t want to respect the property of law-abiding citizens. If they continue refusal to comply, then trash their encampments, close the benefits, relocate them to remote areas of the state where they can’t violate the space of others and disrupt their way of life. If that’s the extreme that is needed, then it should’ve been done years ago. That’s a major reason why Portland is declining and businesses and residents are leaving. Who wants to pay top dollar to live where the slums, drugs, violence and bodily fluids are outside of their doorstep? Paying to be afraid to walk in their neighborhoods, take their kids to school. For what? Non contributors who disregard the law and create unsafe environments? Get rid of them.
I finally gave up, took the loss and sold out. But before I did, I would tell the vagrants, "It`s not your place and it`s not my place. Therefore< i have just as much right to move you along, as you do to stay..."
Be a real shame if a group of citizens came down and cleaned house. When our elected leaders fail to enforce the law or protect communities then it is time for vigilante justice.
In one Portland community, a group of citizens set up planters on the easements of their street, to prevent the homeless from setting up tents there. Well, of course, the city had these planters removed, because they don't give a rat's ass about what the taxpayers want.
Vote the people out of office that aren’t doing their jobs. They are sitting around collecting a check. People need to band together against these politicians.
Homeless advocates say "Housing First" is the answer. However, we don't seem to be able to provide units for less than half a million dollars per unit. There is no homeless junky on earth worth investing half a million dollars on when you can literally save a thousand starving children for that same money. Yet leaving them encamped on the streets and polluting our neighborhoods is not an acceptable alternative. Essentially, the homeless have a point when they say that they have to be allowed to go somewhere....you cant put someone in jail because they are too broke to pay rent. I believe the only solution are State owned safe camping sites...located in rural areas outside city limits. You could camp the entire homeless population of Portland on a 100 acre lot. The cost would be minimal and those who cause problems at the camp would go straight to jail. Peaceful clean campers would be able to stay pretty much forever. We could do this for a cost of less than 5-10k a year per camper. Right now we are spending 10 times that amount which is preposterous and unsustainable.
It must be OK to break the LAW in Portland. That is why there are so many homeless CAMPS. Trun about is fair play, if the city can't fix things then the homeowners need to do it.
This is terrible for our children going to school. Why are all the homeless sitting in Portland and not using any part of Eastern Oregon ? Portland is ruined thanks to your horrible city leaders.
The problem is they allowed it for so long that trying to change that now is even harder. Yet, obviously they need to do that but have neither the sense or political will to actually do something to improve the city. Portland is pathetic.
How is this girl homeless? Instead of getting fat off EBT-funded cookies and soda and coloring her hair with precious welfare funds, she could get a job and an apartment instead.
Time for the federal government to start building new villages for the homeless where the services are all located . Outside of the major cities . Thats where the services need to be located outside of the major cities .
@@essieessie5399 No just set em up out in the middle of no where to pioneer a new settlement in the true spirit of America . Get rich selling em stuff by the semitractor trailer load . Collect taxes and just keep on being America . It's very simple when you just start from the very beginning . How do you think America even made it this far ?
apparently the homeless villages are struggling to achieve capacity......how's that possible? just goes to show,people would Rather live on the streets. ok fine,but you can't do it here.....
Understandable. But if ppl are homeless WHERE are people out there supposed to pee and poo? I don’t like the smells either, but there are no public restrooms and if there are they would be for paying customer. So, it’s a little confusing when that lady is complaining bc it sounds like she thinks ppl in tents have bathroom options. Kinda goes to show how out of touch ppl with money/home can be. I feel like ppl who become homeless are simultaneously looked down on and discarded from society. It’s heartbreaking. Not even some of the worst criminals out there deal with the conditions that ppl on the street face.
LOL, you're part of the problem. These people are not victims. They made the choice to do drugs, drink into oblivion and shit and pee on the streets. They've continuously been given options for housing, food, free medical, but they refuse. Why? Because they DO NOT WANT TO LIVE BY ANY RULES!!!
Thanks. Currently living in my van and I NEVER litter so it can get messy sometimes, I was getting scared reading all the comments about vigilante justice. What if someone sees trash bags in my car and a bottle I have to piss in (because I DIDNT throw it out on the street and couldn’t find anywhere to toss it) and says “these dirty homeless are ruining our city, torch it”. It’s scary and dehumanizing. I’m a human too, we are all trying and I never park in front of houses, it’s exhausting trying to find restroom, gym for shower, public trashcan, somewhere to sleep, every single day. Thanks.
@@yimmymurph3135 You're obviously one of the very rare truly "homeless" vs the drugged out, dirty, garbage collecting tweakers. It's the garbage outside the tents and cars in neighborhoods that pisses people off. There is A LOT of help out there for any homeless person. All you have to do is ask, but you also have to obey reasonable rules!!
