I love Necrochasm and I want it back so bad. You could honestly make it a strand exotic if you wanted to, maybe ToM treatment too. Alternate firing mode that suspends or unravels things
I just want a craftable Khvostov 7G-0x. Give it a wide range of perks to choose from (including different sights options) and have its exotic intrinsic be something simple like fire-select (auto, pulse, scout) when you hold reload. It could the first exotic new lights get and have it be used introduce them to the shape/reshape mechanics. At the end of the quest they should have decent "every activity" exotic customized to their liking.
My original concept for the reworked Khvostov funny enough was an underbarrel grenade launcher that would consume your grenade ability and launch it as a mountain top each projectile doing less damage but having massively increased range....and then we got quick silver
The full saying that he referenced in the video is "a jack of all trades is a master of none, but always better than a master of one" or something along those lines
I agree. Having a gun being literally completely customizable would be perfect and allow players tailor it to their playstyle and would incentivise making multiple copies too.
I’m honestly surprised Nova Mortis and Abbadon haven’t returned, since they’re literally Thunderlord. Was actually hoping Thunderlord’s catalyst would be fundamentals so it could return, but at least Thunderlord got a powerful catalyst. So maybe they can return still and get void/solar versions of the catalyst.
Hell fucking no. Abbadon and Nova Mortis were super lame and the worst Exotic weapons ever made because they're literally just copied and pasted. I mean their very existence undermines the "exoticness" of Thunderlord, which is an amazing masterpiece of an Exotic in D2.
Zhalo Supercell with arc burn and primary gunfighter in the weekly strike playlist was some of the most fun you could have in D1, similar to Telesto void burn secondary gunfighter. Risk Runner may be a better upgrade, but Zhalo just feels and sounds more satisfying to use. Looks infinitely better too, especially with the skins. I’d be happy if it stayed in D1 as good memories
The only things better about it are the fact that it had more range being an AR and you could trigger the lightning arc without being hit by arc damage. But in D2 whenever you go up against arc enemies riskrunner just slaps infinite ammo with arc chains every second it’s insanely good and the catalyst improves range.
@@TheRisible It gave better Super Emergy recharge, and if it were to come into D2, I bet EVERYONE would use it during strikes and GM’s depending on burn
@@zero_karma0496 I’d be fine with special ammo and a damage drop off making headshots one shot at a shorter range than normal. I just want to use the gun again
I had an idea for icebreaker returning: What if they renamed it Ice-Maker, make it a stasis weapon, it’s perk being it regenerates a shot after defeating frozen or slowed targets, and give it chill clip for when it’s mag is full. With stasis how it is in PvP I don’t think it would be too strong. And they should give queenbreaker a rework and just give it hereafters perks instead of it’s current state.
I agree with Queen Breaker, I’ve been saying that it should get some sort of arc blinding dragonfly. So when you crit a target the others around it are blinded. Bonus points if they can include the mine affect to this weapon. Edit: but in terms of icebreaker becoming ice maker, it’s no longer icebreaker & would basically be chillclip & tombstone
that would completely make the weapon useless especially in pvp, why would you run an exotic sniper that only regenerates shots after killing a frozen enemy. this would probably make icebreaker one of, if not the worst exotic in the game top 1% trials player btw
I think the First Curse could be really interesting if they gave it huge range and zoom and lowered the rpm to 100 maybe to compensate for that. They could keep everything else and maybe add a stacking handling and reload buff along with the og perk. Would make for a super cool precision hand cannon power fantasy that we don't really have in the primary slot aside from Eriana's. And that gun sound was amazing!!
Icebreaker is intimately linked in my mind to the first Oracles in VoG via the "5 stand on the ledge and 1 plays 'catch the Guardian' with 396 exploding harpies" cheese strat. So much fun. I remember telling my raid group "BUY IT! BUY IT NOW!" when Xur sold it for the first time the Friday before our first attempt at VoG. God I miss those Sundays of grinding out VoG when we were all newbies and *desperately* needed those small handful of Ascendant Shards the raid would give you.
I do remember the Zhalo Supercell, I just want it back for the nostalgia even I know there are better options now as thunder lord, trinity ghoul and the riskrunner, Bungo should bring all D1 weapons back but reworked and time to time
If Zhalo does come back, they could easily give it the Arc 3.0 treatment and have it's exotic perk jolt targets and chain lighting that jolts additional target. Where as Riskrunner is more defensive with the damage reduction, Zhalo would be a more aggressive weapon with the constant jolt spread.
@@jameswulfgang154 that honestly just sounds more like a buff for Riskrunner, unfortunately Zhalo would simply be way too similar to the other lightning-themed exotics. Would kinda go against its nature as an "exotic" if the main ability is identical to several other weapons in the game...
Pocket Infinity was the first exotic weapon I got in D1, doing the whole exotic quest to get it. It was special to me because of it and helped get through VoG the first time. I just feel like Bungie did nothing to try and fix it to make balance and viable as the years went by, leaving in the closest collecting dust. I wished it came back, completely reworked or at the very least the gun model was use for something else
Actually, they did manage to finally balance pocket infinity. The last non bug fix for it made it so each consecutive shot reduced the damage of each bolt. The lowest I managed to get it was 9 damage per bolt. However, they had such a hard time keeping the gun from breaking the game in general, I remember someone from Bungie specifically stated they will never touch the gun again due to the amount of headache it caused.
I could definitely see young wolf's howl in D2, maybe with some cabal themed ornament. I really want to see necrochasm back as an smg. I just love how fast it fires. I think Cloudstrike is the rebirth of zen meteor. And in a similar vein, the DSC sniper is a rebalanced version of ice breaker. No land beyond I really really want just cuz it looks fun as hell. I just hope bungie doesn't do a low blow by making an ornament with clean iron sights.
Young Wolf's Howl could synergise really well with solar 3.0. Just make it a bit like the Titan's consecration abillity where light attacks scortch foes and heavy attacks send out a wave of fire that ignites them
The issue with nlb is the fact that we have primary slot snipers in d2 only difference is nlb used primary ammo which would create an issue as they would more then likely nerf its damage output to counter that or make it special ammo which would defeat the purpose of the gun in the first place.
@@Jihadbearzwithgunz if we can have fighting lion, we can dream of someday having no land beyond :(( even if it does less damage I wouldn’t care, I miss using that gun.
Fabian Strategy could be interesting because it’s essentially just a high rate of fire auto that makes you live longer and has rampage - but, also consider that Sweet Sorrow with the Land Tank trait essentially does the exact same thing these days - with better perks
To me I wish dragon breath was a guided napam rocket launcher. • If you hip fire the rocket would just go straight • if you aim the rocket is yours to control on where it goes [ note : it does have a limited time until detonates, probably 10sec ]
With 3.0 subclasses out I think it's a prime opportunity to bring back the d1 swords and rework them. Something like the heavy attack of dark drinker applying weaken for a short time etc would be kinda cool
Im kind of surprised that Necrochasm wasn't brought back around the release of the King's Fall reprise in D2. Though I can see Crota's End being brough back as like a dungeon or something later so I believe it will come back. I would also liek the Drag's Promise simply because I think it looks neat and could be better in D2.
Crota End and Necrochasm are coming back either in Season 22 or Season 26 Bungie already confirmed this they said new raid with expansion/first season then a new dungeon for second and 4th seasons and throwback raid for third season
@@ThyBigCheddar yeah, they also said that vaulted raids with their exotic already in the game would see a new exotic made for it. I think s22 will have wrath and s26 levi
I love the look of Necrochasm, Hereafter was what I used to kill oryx the first time underleveled as fuck, Red Death was my counter to the thorn meta, you could kill them before the poison got you and you would heal desperate to have them back
I could see Tlaloc returning with either a new secondary perk or a Catalyst which would provide an effect similar to Agers Scepter, dumping your super into the gun to give it a boost.
I think no land beyond could be implemented as a primary that doesn't quite one hit, but does with the perk. Meaning you would have to get a kill first. I would say give it a longer lasting kill clip. Maybe 8 seconds. And call it reactive reload for nostalgia's sake. For Plan C, give it a longer lasting back up plan, but allow it to refresh on kill. And the I think the Khvostov should be a grenade version of Monte carlo. Complete with an under barrel grenade launcher to launch and enhance your grenade abilities.
out of all the guns that were forgotten of getting put into D2, Zen Meteor is THE most forgotten exotic because for me there was two factors. First like what NovemberHotel said, it was finally out of the dirt and crap covered hands of Playstation exclusivity in the April update, which was 3 months until the release of the Red War Campaign of Destiny 2. Second is that it's exotic perk has what I consider is a improved successor of the Perfect 5th of the Polaris Lance which is a Primary Solar Scout rifle as well having infinite ammo is just better. Which I will have to say this to anyone who is a game designer or in a game studio, please DO NOT make platform exclusive content or take exclusivity contracts. Yeah that extra money may help out, but in the long run you will get shit by your fans or anyone who is interested in your game(s), feeling forced to buy the same game and any possible DLC that comes with the game just to have that exclusive content, while those who are not able to do that financially are forced to wait until it comes out for all platforms, only for it to either be a nerfed and neutered version of it (Looking at you PS3 & 4 Hawkmoon) or not living up to the hype. Best case of a exclusivity deal that went SO WRONG is the game Ooblets, it is available to buy on Epic while on Steam, somehow is still has a TBA, despite being two years now (Also just report that as False Advertisement at this point because the Ooblets devs said and shows no intention of releasing it to Steam).
I feel like they shouldn’t bring back most Destiny 1 exotics without making some changes. A lot of them had their niches that they served but now exist in different forms in D2. However, Nova Morris and Abbadon I feel should make a return. Having Thunderlord without its siblings would be a pretty big disservice. Some guns just shouldn’t come back at all. Weapons like Ice Breaker and Pocket Infinity can rot in hell for all I care. Also, that new logo kicks some serious ass my friend!
While i too was a fan of Icebreaker, it can stay in D1, it wouldn't fit in D2 without being completely reworked, same with Invective, for the same reason; Ammo regen. Ultimately, while fun, it wasn't good, and bng has stated they don't want to bring such a thing back, like ever.
universal remote might be my favorite looking gun of all time, and i think it could be reworked to be usable; juste make it a shotgun with a parralel spread and a very long range that can function in medium-range gunfights, to use that cool scope
If you paired dragons breath with Taikonaught (the titan exotic helmet that gave tracking to any rocket launcher) and allows you to plant that napalm canister wherever you wanted it.
Honestly I'd want that first Sniper, the Void and Solar Thunderlords, Young Wolves Howl, the Titan exclusive auto rifle. Khovostov for nostalgia and the Dreg sidearm and the exotic swords
Nova Mortis should just apply volatile rounds every other shot and the catalyst should grant you small chunks of void over-shield ever time you kill a volatile enemy Abbadon should apply 5 scorch stacks for every bullet and the catalyst should make the ignitions explode twice This way they aren’t niche options if they return to D2. Nova Mortis is used for ad clear, Abaddon is used for boss damage, and Thunderlord is in the middle good for boss damage and ad clear.
Fast forward to now, we have a Void LMG that does exactly what should have rightfully gone to Nova Mortis Sad to see Nova Mortis and Abbadon die because Bungie is just going to rework them into new weapons
I wish Patience and Time and Hereafter would make the Dragon Ball fusion and return as one: an all purpose sniper with radar, crouch and you go invis with 50-55 zoom, stand up and your zoom goes to 35 with moving with it being the only sniper with the lightweight aspect (but 72 RPM like an ag sniper), being a special with that arc arc aspect you already blinding for killing people with it like patience and time. Catalyst gives it higher stability.
If they brought back Khvostov, what if you could hold reload to switch fire mode, and each fire mode actually counted for champion mods? I could definitely see that being broken, but it would also be pretty cool.
HEAR ME OUT ON THIS ONE! Red death can return. But make a Glaive. Have the end of the gun half broekn and keep the bayonet. so It will be a glaive with its perk and from lore point of view, it can be that Crimson was formed of the other half of the gun (after a Vangaurd official dismantled it since the gun is illegal.)
Well, since Crimson is a hand cannon, it has less range and stability than a Pulse Rifle even though it's still a three burst gun, so literally just bring back Read Death and have the tradeoff be "Do you want an instant reload on a precision kill, or more range and stability (and also the gun not to look fucking stupid)?" I know which one I'll pick.
I have good memories of Patience and Time because my dad would play destiny sometimes on my Xbox. He was super bad and would take forever to do anything. But that was his first exotic and he used it all the time so I remember walking home from highschool and walking in on him playing D1 with that gun haha
DUDE, I never played D1 enough to get the Khvostov as it was added long after I stopped playing, but I recently started playing D2 again, and this thing would be an INSANE Weapon in D2. Look at our current Seasonal Anti-Champion Mods. They are mostly tailored around Auto, Pulse, and Scout Rifles. In fact, I think the Seasonal Mods for champions Typically do have those 3 gun types as some of the main ones for them. As long as the being able to Switch between Gun Types was able to be Done by Holding Reload, you could easily have a 2 Anti-Champion Weapon in only one Slot. That would be INSANELY Useful to have.
We need a void exotic machine gun, the idea of choosing it's element before activities like how suros and queen breaker can change one of their perks .
I low key mained dragons breath in d1 it was so fun to use Also patience and time was fuun in pvp and with arcstrider all the invis Some other weapons I loved to use were plan c and no land beyond Also someone said a craft able kohvostov, that’d be super fun
Patience and Time has all rights to come back to D2 right now. With void invisibility, you could tweak it, so when you shoot while invisible it won't break the invisibility or something like that. Maybe have it trigger invisibility on crit hits or while aiming for a long time. With all the benefits to being invisible, the time in scope should be quite long, but it would be nice to see it getting some love
I am really wanting to see a return with Necrochasm. Maybe they would convert it to a 720 rpm Auto Rifle. It would basically be a rapid fire auto Rifle archetype.
RIGHT?! I always see hate for that weapon but Dregs was one of my favorite pvp weapons. I never got good at sniping type weapons, so Queens was outside my wheelhouse, but Lord of Wolves and Drega Promise were my favorites.
i think Thunderlord could be reworked with a hardlight/borealis/dead messenger treatment, same thing with a combined exotic sword (would change heavy attack too, with nice visuals to the blade shapeshifting, and even maybe adding a stasis version ? :D i'm daydreaming, sorry)
Just make thunderlord into an elemental lord where you can switch the elements like hard light. They can have each element have a unique effect like arc keeping thunderlords lighting strike
Tlaloc also had grenader so you could get back grenade energy on kills. At the time that was great but now there is demolitionist. Also it would be great if it cane back with something like the Monte Carlo but for grenades or while at full super you get a boost to the energy you get or buffs grenades. The gun is named after a god of rain so something with a lot of grenades. There is a lot they could do with it if they go that route.
I would anly disagree with super good advice. I used it as a mob clear (which is what i think ot was intended for) and more often than not i would burn through my reserves than have to reload. I think it would need some tweeks, but i loved the aesthetic of the weapon and the lore behind it.
Tlaloc was my baby! Say you were doing a solo nightfall using self rez. You didn't need to use your super until you died so its perk was up for basically the entire strike.. It could work similarly with well of radiance. You don't use it until you have to kinda thing which works well with its overflow perk. I would love to see that one back.. Also speaking of class exotics I wouldn't mind seeing stillpiercer
I would love to see the Khvostov come back. It felt so great to fire and be able to swap it's firing modes. I think it would need just a little nudge to make it more viable, but even still, I'd run it just for it being it. It sounded great, handled great, looked great. Fabian Strategy was absolute dog water when it released, then I feel like it got a shadow buff because it was performing better towards the end of D1 life. I agree that it's perk still isn't a wow factor, but I think if they upped the ammo (like adding the game's first AR drum mag), that it could be great for RAF clearing. Maybe even make it that bullet damage from the front was reduced a little to make the baby shields actually do something lol. I also really love your idea to combine the two snipers (P&T, and whatever the second one was lol), but I think just leaving off refunding the mag would be enough. Otherwise, when combined, it's getting 5 perks, and it's already needing 4 to be viable and increase P&Ts fun factor. But I miss it. People really didn't expect a Titan to run it in PVP and I was a menace lol. Aside from those three, I wouldn't mind the solar or void Lord coming back, but I get what you're saying. However, that was the mood when they released them back in D1 as well. It just felt weird that they were just releasing the same gun again and just doing different elements basically. Past that, I'd like to see Necrochasm come back. Those would be my six choices.
Yeah, so thinking that this means we won't see Abbadon either, but instead a unique solar LMG that is kinda like Abbadon. Personal idea would be a LMG that has scorch rounds, and reloads whenever enough shots to trigger an ignition has been hit.
I'd like red death again. I know we have crimson and it's better but I miss the sound of the pulse and the feel of it. It'd be cool if they brought kvhostov back like hard light. Hold reload to change the fire rate or something. Also I really hope we get NLB back. I miss goofing around with it. I wasn't great with it but man I got some good clips with it
I think the thing about combining P&T and hereafter together is cool, but ultimately, if I want stuff blinded I'll use a GL, and if I want invis I'll use void hunter. I think they'd need a full rework if they wanted them to be used in D2
The first curse was my curse, because I grinded a ton for it and decided to stick with it for a while, to justify my farm and... When I got used to it I really fell in love with the perks and looks. I know its just a gun, compared to last word, but damn I want the curse to come back for some reason, even if it will be useless
I’ve thought about ways to bring ice breaker back… just wondering what others think. My idea brings back the feel of the old gun, but with a D2 feel. Let me know what you think! Destiny 2 Icebreaker Rework Weapon still has a 6 round magazine and can’t have reserve rounds, but ammo bricks still drop. Picking up ammo instantly reloads this weapon. Intrinsic Perk: Conversation Starter Fires a high-powered beam that over-penetrates targets. Enemies that are hit after the first take 2x damage. Exotic Perk: Precise Preservation Killing an enemy with precision damage refunds one round to the magazine. (This can only happen once per shot) Exotic Catalyst: Gives the weapon maximum range and kills with the weapon now cause ignitions. Increases magazine size to 10.
You know with bow bad warlocks arc supers are currently, i really wouldnt mind holding on to my super for tloloc, it would be amazing, and also makes sense with the whole thunder God theme of tloloc.
Dragons Breath needs to come back. I always loved the thing. Imagine that napalm perk on a solar scorch build. First curse, necrochasm and no land beyond would be cool to see return too. Id actually also like to see abadon and nova mortis return to along with a stasis and strand varient of it with unique perks. Just so we got thunderlords in all flavours.
It would be nice for the Dragon's breath to synergies to solar 3.0 cuz in it's first form it would detonate a solar grenade upon it's impact, but then it got a reworked to drop a gasoline then to be lightin up.
There are many things I would give up for some of these exotics to be in D2. But if they are not meant to be, then i would settle for their designs to be ornaments on current D2 guns. Having an Invective skin on a shotgun would make me pay so much money
The trio of swords could be brought back if reworked or specialized; like making the solar sword have a wave attack, and have the hardest hitting power of any other sword, while having an extensive charge time; the void could be used repeatedly, and stun targets; and the arc be way quicker in its attack, and be used in-air: similar to Black Talon, but mildly slower, harder hitting per attack, and still discus shaped…
Tbh I don’t think there’s any good reason for most of these exotics not coming back except for the broken ammo economy ones like icebreaker. Bungie can and has pretty much completely reworked exotic perks to make them relevant so I see no reason why some of the more underwhelming exotics can’t get a glow up to make them work in the d2 sandbox.
I want to see Ice Breaker back and reworked. It's a very unique design and had an awesome sound, I'd call it an iconic Destiny weapon that's been missing for too long. Doing away with regenerative ammo and having a venting reload animation would be really cool, and of course giving it something else in place of the ammo regeneration.
The thing with young wolf now is Heartshadow basically does what it does with better range and also makes you invisible. They would have to add something to Young wolf to make it more Enticing but knowing Bungee they would just make it apply scorch stacks now instead of the burn it had and call it a day.
Thunderlord should have swappable catalysts like the new exotic pulse rifle that change it to the other 2 versions of it. That way it can't be abused by hot swapping in activities. You would have to take it to the enclave to change it
Give the Void Thunderlord (can’t remember name) a perk that puts volatile rounds on it all the time. Might be too OP but could be tuned properly and would be very fun
Also you forgot to mention that alongside the other perks Fabian strategy had crowd control (rampage) and I actually used this auto a lot and after it had gotten some buffs (I think) it was a really decent weapon being able to be used in hard mode raids. If it was brought into D2 itd be like an auto rifle version of huckleberry with both having their strengths and weaknesses 👍
Tlaloc + Revive super made it EXTREMELY powerful for raids. I would consistently have the highest killcount out of all my friends, while also coming in clutch since I could revive almost anytime I perished.
4:45 well hardlight, and borealis aren't, and Dead messanger is just mildly useful for corrupted. I think its a balanced change seeing as an exotic and heavy slot buy in is fairly expensive as well but the catalyst it has gotten in plunder is probably better
12:45 They did add this gun to D2. When you first load up the game for the first time you can pick a few guns and ones like this. The ghost even says "Maybe it's been waiting for you" And on the common weapon it says "Withered and torn but still fires true"
Seeing the gameplay in the background, everything about destiny 1, its darker colour palette, it’s magnificent play on how small you are for example when you were inside the dreadnought man, I really really miss d1…
Seeing you bring up the first curse shot so much nostalgia into me. That was MY gun. Once I got it I don’t think I’d use another weapon for crucible I was a monster lol. It’d be nice to see it again but I agree with your points.
I feel lik the here after should keep its zoom on crouch function BUT it should have a more functional change like when crouching it hits harder and fires slower can the explosion jolts but you cant move while crouching When not crouching you have faster straif speed the gun fires faster does less dmg and the explosion blinds targets What do you guys think?
