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Destiny 2 - LIGHTFALL CAMPAIGN EXPLAINED! The Veil, Final Shape and Secrets Of The Traveler 

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Hey Guardians! Today we summarize the events of the Lightfall Campaign in Destiny 2! Let’s discuss the Witness, Neomuna’s Hidden secrets, The Veil and the path to the Final Shape!
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@EvazeOfficial
@EvazeOfficial Год назад
Today we recap the events of Lightfall! There are some disappointing moments story wise, but let’s summarize the entire main story. Enjoy
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Год назад
Basically time for everything to suck even worse than it already did. I rather be still fighting The Hive the red legion. I would rather still be doing that then fighting the witness. Because he's too OP man it's like that scene from aliens it's game over man game over. At least we know that the witness is using the darkness to do evil things and the Darkness is not inherently evil. But still we're screwed dude we're very very much screwed.
@gv584
@gv584 Год назад
How's your video explaining anything ? It's a mere overview. Sorry to be kinda rude, I'm no hater, actually rather a long time subscriber but man...
@reggielacey2235
@reggielacey2235 Год назад
​@@gv584 it literally said recap.
@Moises_Rodrigues_Pereira
@Moises_Rodrigues_Pereira Год назад
Kinda funny that Osiris had time to study Strand but not ask "what is the Veil?" the entire campaign
@pernie4576
@pernie4576 Год назад
is there a chance we can get a full lore information of the vex? Because they exist within multiple realities and timelines, does that mean they are on or near the power levels of the light and darkness? Are they the third major force?
@pedromoreira6218
@pedromoreira6218 Год назад
i found it funny that our character after the first cutscene with the witness through the ghost just looks at it and goes "oh yeah im just gonna ignore the fact that you were literally posessed by the witness talking to calus no problem with that at all"
@Deathbatx1234
@Deathbatx1234 Год назад
It’s happened before when they first went into the pyramid on the moon. Only reason why I can see they don’t make it a bigger deal
@pedromoreira6218
@pedromoreira6218 Год назад
@@Deathbatx1234 perhaps the problem here was that calus was clearly talkign AT the ghost why would the ghost all of a sudden just start transmiting that just cause it "feels weird" if we saw the witness take over the ghost before in the pyramid shouldnt we at the very least be suspicious of "why would he chose to let us see that thing specificly?"
@VanAugerify
@VanAugerify Год назад
@@pedromoreira6218 From what I thought happened, Our guardian couldent actually see Calus projection or hear that conversation, just saw ghost say it felt weird and glitch out and stare off into the distance for 30's. Kind of how when Calus was talking with the Witness in that one scene it was all an illusion in his head while he was actually in the throne room.
@Staubbs
@Staubbs Год назад
It’s just plain lazy writing
@Judicial_Cat
@Judicial_Cat Год назад
​@@VanAugerify Even if we didn't really see Calus we can clearly see that our ghost speaks.
@cytofusion6072
@cytofusion6072 Год назад
I loved the fact that Calus refers to players as “My Tenacious little guardian” except when they have the Shadow Title, in which he calls them “My Shadow.” I love when games reference things like that.
@johngancarcik5682
@johngancarcik5682 Год назад
Still nothing about our choice of vanguard v drifter
@cytofusion6072
@cytofusion6072 Год назад
@@johngancarcik5682 wait, Calus didn’t call you a snitch? Odd. I’ve always felt that my decision to side with a random warlock I’ve never seen or met has been the most narratively impactful decision in my gaming career.
@cammymillard7385
@cammymillard7385 Год назад
I have a little e blush when i hear calus call me his shadow
@bruhfis786
@bruhfis786 Год назад
Kinda similar to how when nezarec talks to you, if you wear his armor/weapon he says other stuff
@xiphosmaniac
@xiphosmaniac Год назад
@@cytofusion6072 my friend chose to snitch and hes definitely still referenced as one till this day lol it cracks me up
@serafaye9705
@serafaye9705 Год назад
Calus’s reaction to not getting a toast from the tormentors sums up this expansion lol
@richie6793
@richie6793 Год назад
I know this campaign just came out, but it gave me more questions than answers, hope the final shape is worth it.
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Год назад
Basically everything sucks worse than it did previously I rather be still fighting The Hive and the red legion then the events of what's going on in light fall
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 Год назад
Well yeah final shape will explain what the hell happened at the end but we got alot answered about light and dark, about the black heart and how it was the vex that made it to try replicate the veil and we got more on nezarec. The story isnt over so yes theres going to be alot of questions and this was the closing of Calus's story not Destinys. We were never going to get all the answers.
@Slavic_Snake
@Slavic_Snake Год назад
"I wasted 50/100 dollars. Hope later when I waste 50/100 dollars it's gonna be worth it"
@richie6793
@richie6793 Год назад
@@Slavic_Snake I wouldn't say wasted, I'm having my fun messing around with Strand, just wish it was stronger story wise
@richie6793
@richie6793 Год назад
@@fishnutz5196 They HUGE shoes to fill which worries me
@jamesoliver5240
@jamesoliver5240 Год назад
Story was incoherent. In the ending of seraph, the witness wanted eramis to blow up the traveller, but in the ending cutscene, the witness needed the traveller alive for its plan so why try to blow it up? Next, for the first half of the missions, the witness wants calus to use the radial mast (never actually explained what it is) to destroy the veil, though in the final mission, the witness clearly needed the veil to enact its plan so why try to destroy it earlier. Also, it’s egregious that we still don’t actually know WHAT the veil is.
@andreymavian3400
@andreymavian3400 Год назад
All of lightfall was a set up by the Witness. Wtness didn't need Calus or anyone to actually destroy the Veil if it wanted to. What Witness needed is a ghost, our ghost, to establish a link between the Veil and the Traveler so the Witness could open the Traveler. Calus was a lure for us. What for the Seraph ending, well, I assume that the Witness wanted to get rid of Rasputin and it knew that the only way to do it, is to make Ana do it. Maybe it also knew that RAsputin wouldn't destroy the Traveler. Although I don't get only one thing. For 2 years straight there has been one more huge villian that never appeared on scree - Xivu Arath. What is her role in all this???
@jasutinborchert4418
@jasutinborchert4418 Год назад
I think the Witness just wanted to get rid of Rasputin, facing one powerful entity instead of two.
@investinjahcoin5029
@investinjahcoin5029 Год назад
Fr. Kinda confusing…
@cursedfate838
@cursedfate838 Год назад
I think it’s more that why yes the witness needed these things for his plan, what we’re seeing on the outside may be containing what he needs. So, blowing up the traveler opens that portal (just less elegant) or that portal takes you inside the traveler and destroying the shell, my guess would be like destroying the tardis. As for the veil, same reason? The ghost was convenient or is actually a creature of both light and dark without knowing it. The veil getting destroyed would probably send the same beam of power to the traveller. Destroying things would be easier and faster for the witness, he wants to not waste time getting the final shape. Hell when he was being hit by the travellers anime attack, he b-lined straight to it. Shrugging of the attack as there’s no time to waste getting his shape. Honestly, I think the man’s impatient
@sawdust8691
@sawdust8691 Год назад
This was definitely the most disappointed I've ever been with a Destiny expansion. Even putting conflicting stuff aside, this campaigns primary issue is that's it's POINTLESS. We learn NOTHING. We are at the climax of a decade long saga, and we still don't know what we are fighting, defending, or why. It's ridiculous. This was the expansion that needed to give the answers. This should have been Destiny's Infinity War. Instead we got the most flat, lackluster, meaningless story at the games most important time. Bungie failed big time here.
@ATable4You
@ATable4You Год назад
Veil is defined as a piece of clothing used to obscure the face, etc. I think all the previous attempts at harming the Traveler were an attempt to replicated the Veils effect. Going back to what was said earlier in the series about the Traveler being referred to as "Pale heart" I think what The Witness wants to do is unite all the forces. The Light (force of life), The Darkness (force of death) and The Strands (bonds that transcend time and space) together in an amalgous state that can only be described as "Not Dead Nor Alive; existing as both Past, Present, and Future, all in one."
@jaimewilsonmalpicaaguilar2077
Funny that Rohan says “not all of us have lives to spare” to Osiris, a guardian without a ghost, meaning he has no lives to spare too XD
@Soon22400
@Soon22400 Год назад
This scene pisses me off every time I see it.
@murderpuppy3601
@murderpuppy3601 Год назад
To be fair Rohan was probably unaware of that fact at least at first.
@xerothereaper4158
@xerothereaper4158 Год назад
Witness power seems to be on a extreme level. We have dealt with the Taken, Siva, timelines and illusions but his powers seems to be more scarier yet interesting.
@paulfoulger9006
@paulfoulger9006 Год назад
Yeah.. the fact he's just moving and tearing things apart with the flick of his wrist is just plain scary lol
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Год назад
@@paulfoulger9006 this dude is literally just flicked his arrest and he cut up five ships and their ghosts
@reabsorb
@reabsorb Год назад
he is omnipresent, no?
@skull_killa_3606
@skull_killa_3606 Год назад
Shame Calus wasn’t a raid boss, but still, he died as he lived. Sitting in a pile of his own filth
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Год назад
He died the way he lived shiny
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Год назад
I’m glad Calus wasn’t the raid boss. I wouldn’t want him to become the next Taniks. We gotta fight somebody new.
@syrune
@syrune Год назад
Wasn't he already a raid boss once? Let solo players get a wack at him
@Ostrava6572
@Ostrava6572 Год назад
I’m real happy he isn’t the raid boss. We already got a version of him as a raid boss and it would be such a downgrade from Rhulk
@Poseidon-1
@Poseidon-1 Год назад
They teased the raid boss multiple times get ready to fight a god
@silvdrazero
@silvdrazero Год назад
When 'The Witness' showed off it's power over the ghost, when we saw it and Calus conversing about their plans; really should have taken it at face value about cluing us in that our Ghost was made into a contingency Trojan Horse.
@oco8783
@oco8783 Год назад
I did get the feeling something was off, why would the Witness make such a blunder?
@why-so-toxic_1413
@why-so-toxic_1413 Год назад
Love it that Osiris was ready to throw hands but the cloud striders got it covered
@vix1027
@vix1027 Год назад
Always going to love Osiris’ reaction to the drop pod 😂
@jhamPlays
@jhamPlays Год назад
When he jumps out he is ready to throw hands
@gigachadtheslumpgod6727
@gigachadtheslumpgod6727 Год назад
Like many people said, Lightfall was definitely a filler and wasn’t planned until recently. I really hope the final shape redeems it because it could be the very thing that ties all the loose ends to this enormous story
@leviwins
@leviwins 9 месяцев назад
They're not too worried about the story, so long as you purchase the dlc and invest your hours.
@Nonshin540
@Nonshin540 Год назад
I always thought of the witness being us (Our guardian). That in a alternate timeline the traveler managed to turn us (the witness) to the light and we fought the darkness as a champion for the light. After a victorious battle we decided to go back in every timelines (Similar to what the Exo Stranger did) were it was our destiny to be the light that guides humanity but now I don't think that's the case. I know it's a bats**t insane theory but I think our ghost is the witness and we're the traveler in human form. If you go back to the final boss battle in Beyond Light when we fought Eramis, our ghost was knocked out and she had the artifact that allowed us to use stasis yet when we looked within ourselves we were able to do (directly quoting her) the impossible. I think the grimoire card pertaining to us being unbound gave us a clue to what the final shape is supposed to be. Our final shape will be neither light or dark but something that's more powerful than both. It's something that we get to determine ourselves (similar to what we can do with strand, if you fundamentally break down what strand is then you'll see it's no different than what the witness does. Just like Oryx, we learned the ability to take but in a different way). Continuing the theory, We fought the final big boss of the story and won but at a heavy loss. To stop that possible future from happening, we went back in time with our ghost but was somehow separated in every timeline (I thought of that when Osiris saw us in an alternate timeline without our ghost and wielding saints shotgun). Which is why when our ghost finally finds us it says that it's been looking for us for a long time. I think the reason why our ghost just doesn't flat out tell us our past (Knowing exactly who we really are) is to prevent any mistakes that may have caused the casualties leading up to our original victory. Similar to the Exo Strangers story last season with her floating companion. Instead of pushing us like it's doing now, it's giving us the freedom to make our own choices. I know it's a crazy theory but the vex and the witness are not working together nor are they on the same side. Both parties have different agendas and motives at play. The Curse of Osiris DLC proved that in the possible future Osiris saw. Even the Exo Stranger says the true threat is the vex back in D1.
@Burrito-Ry92
@Burrito-Ry92 Год назад
Savathun is gonna be the Travelers Ace in the hole. It's gonna go down in true savathun fashion too. The Witness is gonna get so far that everyone will think it's about to succeed, then at the last moment... IT WAS ALL A TRICK BY SAVATHUN
@maxking3148
@maxking3148 Год назад
The only trick being played is you spending 100$ for a destiny 1 2.0 campaign with no explanations or answers )
@jeff8833
@jeff8833 Год назад
Oh awesome, so glad to be part of SAVATHUN'S story...
@Burrito-Ry92
@Burrito-Ry92 Год назад
@Max King Bumgie = the live god of cunning and lies Err whatever, lol
@oco8783
@oco8783 Год назад
​@@maxking3148 there are SOME answers if you piece things together
@maxking3148
@maxking3148 Год назад
@@oco8783 where's the answer as to why crucible and gambit have gotten 0 maps in the past 2 years
@Thelegend_2121
@Thelegend_2121 Год назад
6:16 gets me every time I see it. Osiris really hopped out the pod with his fist up ready to throw hands with people taller than Caiatl.
@chimpdaddy21
@chimpdaddy21 Год назад
We've just been nomura'd the veil was a key, a key to kingdom hearts
@pyrogod1041
@pyrogod1041 Год назад
I love how lightfall starts like how the red war dose The traveler geting attacked ✔️ The guardian boarding a cabal ship and downing it ✔️
@jhamPlays
@jhamPlays Год назад
Nothing will beat Osiris jumping out of that escape pod ready to rumble
@Brutal4152
@Brutal4152 Год назад
26:22 so the Witness gets made because Calus says “you hold the universe in your grasp, and all you can think to do it with it is ….” and then he gets cutoff by the Witness. so I do understand this was just a dream of Calus’s. however, the Witness being mad at that statement is because he doesn’t have the universe in his grasp. and that leads to the Witness’s “purpose” which is it stop the creation of life. the Veil was needed in order to enter the Traveler, I believe and there have been hints to what is inside the traveler (“a cosmos in a bottle”). and the Witness is after “it’s pale heart” which is the “key” to stopping creation. this would then fulfill the Witness’s “purpose”… that being to stop the creation of life. as “the universe makes us all victim… in its infinite cruelty”( 39:21 ) so to be clear, the intentions of the Witness, his so called “purpose” is to end the universe.
@Brutal4152
@Brutal4152 Год назад
side note: being able to control the Traveler from within, or possibly manipulate it would be the “key” to the end of the universe. as our Traveler aka the Gardener, will cease to be able to create
@BryonYoungblood
@BryonYoungblood Год назад
@@Brutal4152 Yep. Perhaps the Witness, like how its had its Disciples work, lost so much and became bitter, so now it wants to make the universe suffer by ending all life, which in turn makes it a hypocrite because IT will have to die too for true annihilation.
@souleater2978
@souleater2978 Год назад
Lightfall=No Time To Explain 2
@PhantomCrow1753
@PhantomCrow1753 Год назад
29:56 rip sagira 😢 i was actually waiting for someone to use that shell though for this scene
@renocryoticvods
@renocryoticvods Год назад
Making your entire Infrastructure, defenses, and people to one funny little server surely would never have any repercussions that would bite us in the back later on
@oco8783
@oco8783 Год назад
Kinda like is with the traveler funnily enough
@renocryoticvods
@renocryoticvods Год назад
@@oco8783 Facts !
@Gafiltha
@Gafiltha Год назад
I just hope by the end of this Light Dark saga we have ALL our questions answered. Drifter choice, Traveler and Witness deep dive and possibly explanation of the entire plot or influence it had along our way and more. I'm okay with Questions for now as long as they wrap it up nicely
@Fier07112
@Fier07112 Год назад
I think a part that is not stated is how the Witness used us and Calus to get the Veil! I thought it was weird that our Ghost relayed that message but the ending made sense. The Witness wanted us to know so we would impulsively rush in and be the one to set the link. Witness never wanted Calus to be a true disciple but wanted him to be an ends to mean!
@n0thingbutstatic
@n0thingbutstatic Год назад
I believe this is correct, however, there’s still more that could’ve been answered around the witness and especially the veil which is supposed to be the most important object to the witness
@Fier07112
@Fier07112 Год назад
@@n0thingbutstatic i absolutely agree! Iltgis campaign had too many “where, when, how” moments!
@oco8783
@oco8783 Год назад
​@@n0thingbutstatic it's implied to be and later is confirmed to be the travelers heart
@Fantasygod930
@Fantasygod930 Год назад
Lightfall campaign definitely was cool to play and it gave some more lore and some surprises as usual but the biggest surprise was nightmare disciple (can't remember how his name) is still alive in the vex Network apparently which is just very confusing like how in the world do you die in the physical world and then transport to the Vex Network that doesn't make sense now who am I kidding it's Space Magic it solves everything it is the logic of the entire universe itself still do I wonder well we face him in the raid or will he seasonal final boss I hope it's the first option and probably the most likely
@leechalmers1588
@leechalmers1588 Год назад
That’s what I’m thinking the raid name basically confirms it for me
@dougcarey2233
@dougcarey2233 Год назад
I don't think Nezzy's still alive. I think he's time-traveling from the past through the Vex portal network to the present. That might've been the backup plan of the Witness all along. It would explain why the Witness was so tolerant of Calus's incompetence. Also, what if the Witness is a corrupted version of whatever dwells inside the Traveler?
@crashlads2685
@crashlads2685 Год назад
@@dougcarey2233 oh boy you're gonna be shocked
@someonesomeone2166
@someonesomeone2166 Год назад
​@@crashlads2685 what do you mean?
@crashlads2685
@crashlads2685 Год назад
@@someonesomeone2166 just wait till the raid comes out my man trust yall are gonna be shocked (in a good way) that guy especially with his confident statement
@xXx_Regulus_xXx
@xXx_Regulus_xXx Год назад
Neomuna is really pretty but if everyone was uploaded into the cloudarc why leave the city as it is? shouldn't it just be a bunch of servers
@vladimirmussolini
@vladimirmussolini Год назад
Well, lightfall is BIG, COOL and BADASS filler.
@trevormurray617
@trevormurray617 Год назад
Fr a filler arc is exactly what this felt like
@zachj19991
@zachj19991 Год назад
Could've been told in a season. Idk how their gonna build a year of content from this. They have no direction whatsoever it seems.
@Carlos-gb9mf
@Carlos-gb9mf Год назад
prolly gonna give us answers in the later seasons but wow they have a lot of explaining to do cuss they explained like barely 20% of the some story bits
@PianoMatn
@PianoMatn Год назад
I still dont get what the Veil actually is
@AFOPatches
@AFOPatches Год назад
Neither does Bungie
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 Год назад
Time for everything to suck
@shish7308
@shish7308 Год назад
It's the acid Bungie's been doing while developing Lightfall
@oco8783
@oco8783 Год назад
It's the traveler's heart
@variswindrunner4928
@variswindrunner4928 Год назад
Nezerac needs to show himself man
@mazle_7882
@mazle_7882 Год назад
Just finished watching the video on The Entire Story Of Destiny! (Creation To Lightfall) amazing btw, but don't forget to put a link in the description to this video as you have not done that yet.
@andrewyachovitz6749
@andrewyachovitz6749 Год назад
It was a good campaign for me since I watched your earlier lore vid, i understood much more, but I’m fine with a lot of questions, people were just expecting witch queen level campaign but I think they’re really holding off for the seasons and final shape
@miltonmilky5970
@miltonmilky5970 Год назад
maybe, just maybe they are putting all effort and thought on the final shape and hopefully will be as good as witch queen. Still no excuse for this sad dlc but still…
@andrewyachovitz6749
@andrewyachovitz6749 Год назад
@@miltonmilky5970 well apparently this dlc wasn’t even suppose to happen. The lightfall we were suppose to get is now in final shape so ye it’s gonna be a massive dlc
@SpicyItalianMeatballYT
@SpicyItalianMeatballYT Год назад
@@andrewyachovitz6749 Lightfall was filler, i assume the next few seasons are going to be filler. Lets hope The Final Shape doesn't bomb completely
@nickmurray2390
@nickmurray2390 Год назад
So that mural we see at Rohan's death is full of implications that i wish they had just talked about. The witness is the bottom skellyman thing and there is a ghost right next to him. I am pretty sure our whole concept of the collapse and the traveler was convenient lies and neomuna knows more than what we saw, but they should have just told us.
@Cole_Cross
@Cole_Cross Год назад
someone had a great theory that we went back in time, and WE are the traveler and our ghost is the witness and they are letting us "replay" the past and make our own choices. its a few comments up they said it much better than i did. :P
@asianman5242
@asianman5242 Год назад
22:55 such chad energy to make a new path
@jjohn3677
@jjohn3677 Год назад
Soooo no one's gonna talk about the darkness fluid running thru giant pipes like Clovis Brays facilities running towards the veil containment building???
@bloodybones5303
@bloodybones5303 Год назад
I love the evil bunny wabbit with the smoky bunny ears.
@BaghNakh1
@BaghNakh1 Год назад
I bet not even Bungie knows what The Veil is, because I just finished the campaign and I can guarantee that nobody that finished the campaign knows what the F is actually the Veil. Right know my only guess is that it's "some paracausal sh*t" and thats pretty much it. Half the campaign is just us messing around with Strand. It feels so weird that even post-campaign everyone keeps talking about "The Veil this and the Veil that" and I'm like "ok but what's the Veil please explain?" and why Zavala and Ikora keep telling us that the Traveler is gone? Clearly the end cinematic didn't show that and you can even still see the Traveler with the Triangular-shaped portal on it on the destination map. What happened with the narrative team? Again they did such a good job with the WQ campaign and then Lightfall happens. I'm so confused bro.
@oco8783
@oco8783 Год назад
The veil is the travelers heart
@Xenronnify
@Xenronnify Год назад
even now after completing the campaign, I think this stands as a prime example of the Devs being like: "hey so we completed the gameplay plan, it's super tight! [Strand] functions great, so glad we took the extra time to fine-tune it. ... The game shipped YESTERDAY???"
@npc6254
@npc6254 Год назад
This expansion is incredibly mediocre. My expectations weren’t that high after the terrible year of the past 3 seasons but wow. I didn’t think WQ was really comparable to Forsaken, TTK, or even ROI, but it was good step forward without Activison’s backing. This is a step backwards. The campaign was terrible and rushed. The nimbus dude was insufferable, but I thought there’d at least be some good story payoff at the end of his atrocious dialogue; I was badly wrong. Bungie has really lost their touch recently.
@Shawn-363
@Shawn-363 Год назад
Almost nothing is explained in the campaign. We are running from from one place to the next without understanding what is is we are after and why. Bungie needs to slow down and allow the story to breathe, and create some tension. They are content to shovel the most interesting story pieces out of the campaign and onto the lore books, or post campaign missions. Also, Nimbus was super annoying. What was the point for that character? The voice sounded weird and it felt like MCU style humor where after 10 minutes you are like “please just shut up”. Rohan was way cooler imo. Witch Queen was way better. I’d argue even Beyond Light.
@jo3hamilton
@jo3hamilton Год назад
Yeah, I found Nimbus voice/dialogue pretty annoying. RIP Rohan
@KuroSlick
@KuroSlick Год назад
​@@jo3hamilton Shame Ronan died, definitely prefer his character over.. Nimbus..
@charmboy5241
@charmboy5241 Год назад
Something I’ve always wanted to know is who is our characters story? was our character someone related to any of the characters or was it just some random? I hope so since idk much of the lore but the fact our character was the only one who could wield the light when no one else could was interesting
@Cole_Cross
@Cole_Cross Год назад
I think this is gunna be a huge part of the "answers" DLC. more time travel possible. 6 or 7 comenmts above this one there's a GREAT theory that's crazy and awesome abt this!
@pedro-wd9vc
@pedro-wd9vc Год назад
caiatl telling our guardian to destroy our ghost and our guardian actually pointing a gun at it is the worst cutscene in destinys history
@skyyy7544
@skyyy7544 Год назад
How?
@knightlypleasures3123
@knightlypleasures3123 Год назад
​@@skyyy7544 its like if someone yelled "your best friend is [insert bad thing here], destroy them!" Or if ana just didn't give a shit about pulling Rasputins plug, it completely disregards the emotional connection we have with our ghost
@shadey_samurai
@shadey_samurai Год назад
8:11 my favorite line from calus
@jrob4795
@jrob4795 Год назад
I’m going back to Destiny 1.
@TitanFall2Dev
@TitanFall2Dev Год назад
The traveler really got the Witnes trapped in Dr strangers mirror dimension
@justwyettesottoo
@justwyettesottoo Год назад
the beginning of the campaign reminded me of halo 3 odst, and at 13:59 it reminded me of Halo CE with the warthhog section near the end of the game
@Xhotic
@Xhotic Год назад
25:00 Atleast Rohan was useful somehow and dropped some glimmer.
@Xenronnify
@Xenronnify Год назад
what if... what if the ENTIRE Calus storyline here was all misdirection? The Witness knew if it took us on directly, we'd probably win through sheer numbers alone. instead, it set up the Emperor to be our focal point while IT located the Veil, and once Neptune was found, we went straight there, and fought through to the Veil to 'stop' Calus from claiming it. The Witness either knew Calus would fail, or if it didn't, it knew that no matter which side won, it would be able to link to the Veil regardless. The Radial Mast was its "homemade" way of doing this, kind of like a surrogate for what our ghost did. The Witness SHOWED US this "destroy the Veil" version of events, probably even explicitly TOLD Calus to do so, so that WE would beat him there and enable the Witness to link, OR we would die trying, and that's one less obstacle. Now, this was NOT properly communicated in the story as it is, and while the damage there is done, Bungie can absolutely salvage this into something better as the next couple of seasons progress. Shame it was such a dud though, this whole setup had/still has serious potential.
@TitanFall2Dev
@TitanFall2Dev Год назад
If the witness talking through our ghost doesn’t tell y’all that the traveler and the witness are the fragments of the final shape. I’m guessing just like with religion the gardener and the winnower were one being, got bored, decided to split itself in two (Adam and eve) and played a game of creation and destruction. The darker half of the god (the winnower; the witness) decided the traveler wasn’t playing fair anymore and attacked. In the books it said the winnower crested the first bladed in existence and struck the gardener. I’m guessing the traveler has the witness imprisoned somewhere where only she can unlock and free him. I’m guessing that’s why he speaks through broken glass. Also, in that finale cutscene with the witness, he looking at a wall of darkness, like a veil, splits it and reveals the solar system. Like he’s on the outside looking in. Like Osiris said the traveler creates through terraforming therefor it’s power exists in the physical while the witness interacts through influence; nightmares and possession. Just my theory, plz comment !
@jackcolman6953
@jackcolman6953 Год назад
I thought this was going to be more epic! Having just joined Destiny in Season of the Seraph I was so hyped for Lightfall. I felt The Witness was just chilling for most of this. Like it’s power level is so high we should have seen more. I really wanted an infinity war feel. Destruction left right and centre but instead we got a campaign about strand
@theonepristinemonk5528
@theonepristinemonk5528 Год назад
I...um....Humm. I enjoyed it. The campaign was fun. It was terribly short though. I also felt like Bungie did a terrible job of explaining things. We should have learned what the veil is. How this ties together. I want to know more about Neomuna. Maybe its their play to keep people coming back? IDK. I am mixed about this. Hopefully the seasons hash it out a bit more.
@DaStupidGoose
@DaStupidGoose Год назад
It feels like the plot of destiny is getting weaker and weaker as time goes on. Almost like the secrets and shrouds we've experienced are just ways of them covering up the fact that they have no idea what they're doing with the story.
@p712ynj0kl
@p712ynj0kl Год назад
How else to milk seasons and get more money? The story must be stretched so thin to borderline incoherent to make another season
@anonymousburrito7839
@anonymousburrito7839 Год назад
Have to disagree because the story of witch queen was one of their best works and season of the seraph, right before lightfall, had a pretty strong story too. So I wouldnt say it got any weaker over time, just a few hiccups over the years, but this DEFINITELY was a sharp decline from their previous expansion. We'll have to see how the next few seasons play out to see if youre right i guess
@JabroneyDirt
@JabroneyDirt Год назад
I actually hope the reason it showed us not shhot the ghost at the end like that is setting up the next year where our gaurdian is looked at with contempt and we go through this wqhole regret arc for not doing it. That might be the only way I can think of to save the story from here,.
@TeKnoVKNG23
@TeKnoVKNG23 Год назад
It's not like it would have done anything though, because I thought the whole thing in Forsaken was that it took the scorn a long time just to come up with one paracausal bullet just to destroy Cayde's ghost?
@Craytonex
@Craytonex Год назад
Yeah I can see why they added the final shape as the next EXPAC now.
@mister_plzzz9114
@mister_plzzz9114 Год назад
17:26 😂😂😂😂 just slides right into the massive fans
Год назад
I believe we did not have any chouse on how it will end, Witness planned all our actions! For starters Witness is ions old and possibly can move true time, had plenty of time to plan all strategies. He started talking to us true ghost long before he arrives in sol system. Next what was interesting for me - he destroyed other guardians, their ghosts and ships with ease, but did nothing to us, even we was there flying around as well. He needed us to go to Neptune. Next part when he spoke with Calus true our ghosts - he knew that Calus would fail because Calus failed to us in past so withness hiddenly "told" us then we need to go and protect it our self the veil to get our ghost there.
@Folowersofchrist
@Folowersofchrist 8 месяцев назад
Every time I see Shakira the ghost. I feel a little bit sad because I have almost the ghost. But then some personal face happens and now I can't together anymore
@darkvex7974
@darkvex7974 Год назад
It's a interesting campaign
@TheSCIOnce
@TheSCIOnce Год назад
Everyone seems to be forgetting that lightfall is four seasons of content and instead are already complaining about what it is/isn’t after the first damn day. 🤦🏾‍♂️
@alintiniuc
@alintiniuc Год назад
No the 4 seasons are 4 seasons of content. Lightfall is suppose to tell us an expansion story. Which is incomplete.
@KuroSlick
@KuroSlick Год назад
No, those are separate purchases.
@likwid_smoke
@likwid_smoke Год назад
I wish we had an idea of why the traveler does that at the beginning for the campaign.. what if the traveler is much smarter & aware than we think... like it's trying to create some kind of trap that leads to the end of the witness. I could be way off & that's fine but why would the traveler do what it did?
@augustleo8368
@augustleo8368 Год назад
LightFall was basically an 80’s action film
@R-SXX
@R-SXX Год назад
destiny 2 is so huge now, and most of the story is not well translated with gameplay inside the game itself - so it is much more fun to watch those videos!
@michaelg6320
@michaelg6320 Год назад
I still won’t forget how Osiris says No in a tone which he was suppose to be the wisest guardian of what I’ve heard
@renaseoautumn9669
@renaseoautumn9669 Год назад
Few things 1. I believe bungie might continue the story via each season and by the end of the expansion we will know where we are going. They did say they were gonna change how the story goes. 2. Did you notice how the Witness did not once physically interact with anything. 3. I agree partially with you views but still thinking to give it a few weeks and see how things go.
@dorugu
@dorugu 3 месяца назад
all i got from lightfall campaign was that the witness wanted to destroy the veil for some reason or another so he sent calus to do just that it felt more like a prologue and that it was meant to be a part of final shape but cut off to make em some more $$$ 'cause it sure had an abrupt ending nothing was really explained the ghost did something with the veil roll end credits i would've wanted more quests here like for example trying to find out what the deuce really happened who made our ghost do what he did? edit:now that i c this again i think that this veil thingy was slapped on top of the real mission namely to get strand it was perhaps even meant to be part of witch queen?
@slingshotnerd
@slingshotnerd Год назад
I’m not going to lie this campaign was really flat compared to WQ Bungie overhyped and over marketed this expansion.
@pikapool142
@pikapool142 Год назад
I noticed on top of caius flag ship is the black armory symbol I think 😮
@koldraxonofthefirstseven5718
First Hakke messing with Dark-related tech, now the Black Armoury icon on the Typhon Imperator... That's disregarding the Dark-shaped Omolon hardware in Arrivals.
@jessewilkerson8736
@jessewilkerson8736 Год назад
the border between light and darkness is referenced a lot through basically all of destiny. so maybe the veil is the border? and thats why the witness needed it to enter the traveler? idk just a random thought
@jesselenix
@jesselenix Год назад
I gotta say, the strongest armor in destiny is the guardian’s plot armor
@dudeathischair22
@dudeathischair22 8 месяцев назад
I played through this campaign after not touching d2 for months and months. It was fun and i love the lively energy of the 80's inspired retro town. I really struggled to follow and engage with the storyline. It didnt feel immersive or believable compared to older content. Im not sure what theyre planning for Osirus but he was a real wet blanket, hopefully he becomes an enemy next expansion and we can end him.
@Btomaek
@Btomaek Год назад
i love how the cape glitches for me too 30:00 onward
@woiken3957
@woiken3957 Год назад
new expansion drops always remind me how shitty time gating seasonal content is. like there is so much less to do now that the seasons are gone
@Aqrelon
@Aqrelon Год назад
Can someone explain to me, if everyone in Neomuna is uploaded to their Neptunian metaverse, why are there building looking like living quarters, social spaces like bars (it all can be in virtual space, why bother) and where do Cloudstriders come from, are they printing some unlucky Neomuni back to real world when there's need to replace one? And why aren't Cloudstriders uploaded back to the CloadArk in case of death. Like with Rohan, Nimbus got his core, it could've been black box of sorts... nothing of this makes sense for me.
@happysailor4419
@happysailor4419 Год назад
The people are digital but have a physical form they can take
@TeKnoVKNG23
@TeKnoVKNG23 Год назад
I thought the first lore entry we unlock has them all sleeping in some bunker while their consciousness was uploaded to the cloud.
@KalosKitsune
@KalosKitsune Год назад
I don’t understand what the veil is. I don’t understand why we only met two cloudstriders. I don’t understand what the cloudstriders are and why they even exist considering neomuna has been hidden from all conflicts until now. I don’t understand the citizens of neomuna because I get that they are uploaded to the thingy but do they no longer have human bodies and if they don’t then why is there an entire city if there is no one to live in it.
@oco8783
@oco8783 Год назад
1. The veil is the travelers heart. 2. There are only 2 cloudstriders at a time, they only live for 10 years as guardians of the city 3. They have had conflicts in the past fighting the vex 4. The people do normally live in the city with human bodies but for safety reasons they are all in cryo in a bunker while their consciousness are uploaded to the cloudarc
@JBradders76
@JBradders76 Год назад
Great video fella, love watching your vid's, but love how the cloud strider's say we live 10 years, but noone is taking about that but 1 year on Neptune is 165 years on Earth, so they are about 1650 earth years old that a long time ;-) lol
@ElyjahDHerring
@ElyjahDHerring Год назад
I think the witness is just a lost child in my opinion lol
@SilverHwk7
@SilverHwk7 Год назад
1:58 - Whoever made this cutscene has no idea how space works. You wouldn't be pushed back by "wind" as the the ship accelerates to FTL, because you're accelerating with it. Instead, everything around the ship would appear to move. You wouldn't need to strain to "climb" that ladder to the hatch; you could literally just let go of the ladder and would float there until the ship made some kind of change in velocity, or you would "fall" onto the hull if there is artificial gravity.
@TarisRedwing
@TarisRedwing Год назад
Welp that was a giant mystery at the end guess we'll have to wait and see.
@EloquentTroll
@EloquentTroll Год назад
Glad to see I wasn't the only using the Sagira shell in the campaign. Also where did that Kvostov come from?
@xrayfalconx2528
@xrayfalconx2528 Год назад
i hope the ending is that inside the traveller or wherever tf the witness went is another witness but with black hair and white body and then they kiss
@Bazzabazeman
@Bazzabazeman Год назад
Bro honestly, they better resolve a LOT of shit in the raid next week. I've had fun generally playing through the campaign putting all the shit cringe dialogue aside, but EVERYTHING about the story is so, so, so badly executed. I honestly have a hard time coming to terms with it.
@rooliesd
@rooliesd Год назад
I'm kind of rooting for the network going down and the lights going out for everyone. Uploaded their consciousness into something that's so precarious at best. Seems deserving that they would all get taken out.
@The_Scottish_titan
@The_Scottish_titan Год назад
whats the ornament on wishender? i love how it looks
@scottbagwell9144
@scottbagwell9144 Год назад
Just to put things into perspective, the scene with Callus saying he's "glorious" to the Witness who rolls his eyes and turns away. Kinda feel like Callus is Bungie and the players are the Witness.... yeah we waited a year for this. "Waiter, check please."
@pernamore4224
@pernamore4224 Год назад
I think bungie focused more on the QOL of the game.
@highlevelchaindevil4886
@highlevelchaindevil4886 Год назад
Our character practices how to use strand and then unravels himself 😂🤣
@3IRDDY
@3IRDDY Год назад
Lightfall Narratively = 7/10 Gameplay = 10/10 Narratively it felt rushed, I feel like half of the story is missing, would have loved to see where the Witness came from and it’s story. Light-fall started so strong, and when they killed Rohan off real quick, it kinda went down from there… But I also understand, this is very early out! I will wait until the raid releases and a couple weeks passed first. But this is just early reactions! But I also understand that this is “the beginning of the end.” So I wasn’t expecting too much, but I think because narratively it fell off short, so it bummed a lot people out. But for now. 7/10 for narrative, but gameplay was very fun 10/10! Strand really carried the story, it’s the most fun I had in awhile.
@lucavalente6620
@lucavalente6620 Год назад
Stylistically the expansion is weird, I feel like that it was way too much "lighthearted " for how it's positioned narratively. The neomuna looks like it should have been after the climax of the story, a sort of Victory tour to celebrate the end of the light/dark arc
@katharinechui128
@katharinechui128 Год назад
21:10 is that Elsie's fish or another instance of it?
@bully5991
@bully5991 Год назад
Only part I missed is why Osiris has the exo strangers ghost thing
@jorgeoffred
@jorgeoffred Год назад
Wow rewatching this made me realize how good this story is like the twists are so subtle I understand how the average person wouldn’t get it. Basically everything has been the witnesses plan Calus is just a tool so we would create the link with our ghost. And even rapustins death was apart of the plan. The witness never wanted to destroy the traveler it was all a test. I hope they explain how deep it goes and how savathun relates. Bungie rly out here tryna make a aizen ass villain
@Glaedr11
@Glaedr11 Год назад
That is all true, however, for a campaign that you spend 60 dollars on, people expect it to have a cohesive start and end point, telling its own story, and providing answers to existing questions and resulting in new questions that will fuel the next year of seasonal content. Bungie has their seasons to add subtle hints and plot twists. They showed us what a cohesive story looks like in Witch Queen. In Lightfall, nothing is answered. We got 6 hours of gameplay in the "Witness takes Veil" stage of the story and found out nothing else but the start of other plot points. It's annoying.
@jorgeoffred
@jorgeoffred Год назад
@@Glaedr11 true it’s all preference on how you like your stories to be presented to. Personally I like the mystery and finding answers myself it give me more of a reason to play.
@tonywright2881
@tonywright2881 Год назад
So this sphere of light, aka the Terraforming Traveler, is a Paracausal entity containing a piece/strand of the darkness (a tetrahedron pyramid) within it’s core. A notion, I hypothesized, when the traveler threw off the chains of the red Legion and incidentally alerted the ‘darkness’ tetrahedron ships to its coordinates. I guess the real question is, how will this change its ‘final shape’? will the traveler transform itself? will the Traveler be modified? will the tetrahedron pyramid be extracted?
@EvzAKAsweedy
@EvzAKAsweedy Год назад
I think in season 21 our guardians may finally learn how to swim instead of stepping into the “poison water” and dying lol.
@royalblue9267
@royalblue9267 Год назад
He definitely just entered into the traveler btw.
@bakutie
@bakutie 8 месяцев назад
dont you love paying extra on top of the expansion for the best cutscene relating to the expansion
@Benny_Boo___
@Benny_Boo___ Год назад
Honestly I don't mind the mystery with The Veil, the ghost compared it to The Traveler, and it's not like we know like anything about that guy.
@cliftonjackson441
@cliftonjackson441 Год назад
How can the drop pod only hold one guardian?
@gherry8
@gherry8 Год назад
For the rest of the story, pay $30, and we promise to only stretch this for another 4 to 9 parts.
@Adam2-13
@Adam2-13 Год назад
I don’t understand why but im watching on Xbox and it’s added words to your video putting it out of sync but on my phone it’s perfectly fine
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