Destiny 2 Lore - Are Savathun & Quria responsible for the Endless Night? A Taken Vex in The Domain? 

Plot twist: Byf is Savathuun and he's been misleading us the entire time.

Bungie Emp 1: “Actually it was just a glit-“ Employee 2: “SHUT UP AND WRITE THAT DOWN!”

Bro I didn’t even LOOK in that direction, that’s so fucking cool.

Bungo: You think anyone will notice if we put Quoria in for 2 seconds? Also Bungo: Screw it Byf prolly already knows...

It's definitely Quaria - Blade Transform (Who incidentally is also knows as "The Dreaming Mind"), it would also explain why the Vex are suddenly attacking the Last City despite their fear of Paracausal forces, Savathun is controlling them and *forcing* them to attack despite their fear.

Tldr, the love triangle between Savathuun, Zavala and Quaria was charged with so much [Redacted] tension that the sun popped like a balloon.

Alternate Title: “Was it Eva Levante?” We all know those cookies are just too damn good.

Byf.......altho the prospect of Quoria and Savathûn being the cause of the endless night is terrifying in the Destiny universe......as a player it's incredibly exciting for this storyline to finally be picking up speed again

"Spoilers for the first mission" Me, who did the first mission: "I died on the way to the portal because I overshot my jump. So did i see that? No, I didnt because I rezzed outside to Mithrax already."

Plot twist: Quria took Savathùn and is leading a lie to get us to believe it's her

Remember the trailer saying that 'at the center of the vex network, there's something that can extinguish humanity" what if they were talking about Quria?

Future War Cult Leader: I'm going to do something Me: B*tch you better leave Mithrax and The House of Light alone

The Far Future lore tab links up with this, in one of the potential futures mentions Vex and Savathun's treachery. Right?

I wonder if all the bosses in VOG will have the prefix, "Subjugated" in their names...

Whisper music playing in the background of this was an excellent idea

Welp, you were worried about how this season would relate to the Witch Queen? EDIT: I distinctly remember reading some lore from the new season that mentioned "darkness from inside the network" that led to the death of a Splicer, so maybe that's Quria? EDIT 2: Okay, it was the Cryosthesia 77K lore tab, and the exact words are "Inside the portal, dark thread wrapped around her wrist." EDIT 3: Holy shit credit to Jeremy G. for pointing this out but the lore tab for The Deicide contains binary code apparently found in Vanguard systems that, when converted to text, shows a series of letters that are actually _music notes playing out Savathun's Song_ ! This is absolutely nutty! EDIT 4: Just to add to it all, the message is from Aunor who says that it might be a tone sequence, but she hasn't listened to it.

Damn, I missed all of that because I tried jumping at the escape portal as it disappeared and fell to my death... it just respawns you outside the Vex domain.

I also noticed Savathuns song in the helm theme where it wasn't before in season of the chosen. When ever we hear Savathuns song it is usually important and I think this shows that Savathuns is in someway involved in this. This would also mean that it is possible that fallen are now in contact with Savathuns song but I don't think that npcs can hear the OST

i missed this because i fell off the map trying to jump into the portal and now i cant replay! damn you bungo.

In one of the FWC weapons, the lore tab is structured the same way as the Season of the Chosen sniper rifle. There's all sorts of stuff in it like "mutated Ghosts" but what worries me is that it ends with "Lakshmi-2: Prophet: Savior." And it hints to Zavala being usurped by Lakshmi.

No one: Byf when literally anything happens : it was Savathun

Hive this hive that I'd like a long vacation from the constant hive threat those things really creep me out

Savathun's Song is also part of the Subjacted Mind's boss music and, while I can't speak for others, I've heard some themes from the Dreaming City in Override when you get into the Network

I got a theory for what's to come: Savathun got inside the Vault of Glass during the Whisper of the Worm mission. She is definitely looking into using the time altering power of the Vex and the Simulation that was pushed on the City to expunge something or Someone (Maybe realting to the last season predictions where Zavala is always dead or missing) from it. I am very wary of where this story arc is going. I though Savathun only had a couple good tricks up her sleeve, but I didn't expect her to try to control the Vex's most advanced technology. She might even be aiming for the Traveler itself...

Don't you hate it when your too busy watching byf's videos to notice that byf uploaded a new video

I 100% think it's Taken. The purple color on top and the bottom more translucent half is reminiscent of the Seditous Mind from D1

We finally meet the daughter of light from truth’s lore she’s mitraak’s adopted daughter name eido

One if the FWC shotguns has lore in it that has binary code that when translated produces a series of notes that when played produces Savathuns Song 😱

My friends and I were speculating on this as well, and I believe that there’s no way this isn’t Quria. Bungie said in the Beyond Light Vidoc that Savathun is placing dominoes that she will eventually knock down in Witch Queen, and that is exactly what we’re seeing.

the thing that I picked up on was the fact that the hydra's head/top half bit looks like the same shape and style as Oryx's head.

And so our fears have been released. The prediction engines? Likely tampered by Savathun. The song? Originated from Savathun. The Wrathborn? Xivu Arath's foul play. Destruction of the Cabal Empire? Xivu Arath once again. The Vex Subjugation? Likely Savathun's doing. Welcome my friends, welcome to the beginning of the end.

Well let's think about it. If Savathun is doing this, then us stopping them is part of the plan. For all know we might cause a worse curse by stopping this one

I hope you cover the lore here in Season of the Splicer involving Crow, Saladin and the people's reaction to the Fallen cuz hooooooooly shit dude.

This is definitely a much different feel... when I walked in to this It wasnt the same old run the season, also the Fallen in the tower as allies... amazing.

I always love it when Byf gets into his lore mode. It’s the main reason why I watched this content to begin with. They’re just so damn good.

If you've seen the Ginsor datamine, then this question would be quite interesting indeed. There's a lot of future plot points that are coming to D2 that I am very interested in seeing.

I was on the first mission of the season but I died by trying to jump through the portal when it disappeared so I didnt see the Hydra at the end but now that I see what was actually going on and what that Hydra looks like, my heart starts pounding rn because of what all of this could mean

Byf, you may not read your comments but I need you to see this. We all appreciate you and the work you do to help bring us this amazing lore in such a beautiful 'shoulda been a narrator' voice. Especially pumping out videos so damn frequently lately. Take a rest mate we dont want you to burn out. You do you and we will be here. Promise. Love you

I saw it for a fraction of a second and my heart absolutely dropped. She's here...she's finally here...

From the lore card of The Deicide shotgun: "My guess is the lettering indicates some kind of audible tone-code pattern, but I haven't listened to it." Who wants to be the audible tone is Savathun's Song?

I am glad to see that I wasn't just seeing things, since I didn't know if it was just me that thought the big hydra looked kinda taken like the Sedius Mind from the challenge of the elders, or Sekrion, Subverted Mind from the taken version of the nexus strike back in D1

So my theory is that the helm is a colony ship being built

that moment when all he's saying clicks in your head *oh shit*

If true, Savathun be like: "Whose been pulling all the evil strings, it was Savathun all along..."

Dude not only did you predict that there was taken involved, but you also predicted savuthuns involvement

Inb4 FWC is being manipulated by savathun through that machine they use to see the future.

i was desperately trying to remember why I don't remember the hydras...until I remembered that I was busy falling to my death

In terms of Bungo's plan for storytelling this would make the most sense for the lead up to Witch Queen The previous two seasons have been about Xivu Arath making moves and the consequences of them, and we know she is in league in some way or another with Savathun. So it would make sense that we would see Savathun's other major player Quria make some moves as well.

Me; who's read the Raid secrets lore spoilers on the Reddit: *Oh boy is everyone in for a good time*

it fits. can you do a vid on the lore of the survivors epitaph. basically shaxx and mithrax having a heart to heart and survivors guilt

In Short and Spoilery: Yes. It's quria and by Proxy Savathun. Source: I actually read the entire Datamined txt for this season. Really good entries, story is gonna slap hard. Look forward boys.

First time I played the opening mission, I sprinted and jumped through the portal, and immediately fell to my death

Byf I appreciate the lore speed runs you do to get these out so fast.

I always like these videos because the way that you put them together feels like the way a Warlock might teach a new light about the world. You are really capable of simplifying on subjects or expanding on them need be. It gets you really immersed into the lore and world of Destiny. Keep up the great work!

Check out the datamines from ginsor and others. This season is going to be WILD

I gotta say the best path of the season so far is the design palette. The areas look great

Well, this kinda means Quoria should start considering whether it wants to be a hand cannon or a pulse rifle...

Loved hearing the music from the whisper mission in the background! Still my favourite piece of D2 music!

Destiny lore gets deep. And I personally, love deep lore. Your content is amazing my friend and would love to know more.

Also the fact it's hydra...wing...things (?) look more elongated than the average hydra, almost like its mimicking Oryx's signature hammerhead look

Imagine: we come to do vault of glass, get to atheon, fight about to start up, Quria teleports into atheon killing it. New boss fight against Quria but we only wound it building into a sub plot of the witch queen.

I honestly hadnt even thought of Savathun being involved with this, but would make sense. Also something about that Vex Mind looks different. The White part looks like a regualr Hydra, like the red part is just on top of it.

My friend claims to have caught the name for a fraction of a second because he was right next to the Hydra, and it did say Quria. His reaction was pretty believable. Sadly he didn't record it.

Why does Quira's whole things remind me of Mendicant Bias

Random observation: Eliksni hatchlings are kinda cute. :)

It's likely Quria, both based on what you said, and the new lore of the Deicide shotgun: The new lore for the reprised Deicide shotgun has Aunor intercept a binary message that's spreading to all of the FWC, with her noting that some odd hash symbols seem to be randomly dotted throughout the message. Translating the binary reveals them to be letters... letter that if read as tones with the hashes representing sharps, play Savathun's song.

Another fact to back up Byf's theory is the fact that "Season of the Splice" was supposed to lead into "The Witch Queen" before it got pushed back into 2022.

I didn't even see that hydra, mostly because I didn't turn around when they started showing up. So seeing this hydra is bringing me back some serious memories of when the taken invaded the vault of glass.

Notice how the taken hydra has some weird wing-like appendages on its back? Wasn't Quria depicted with wings in the books of sorrow?

Thanks for covering the end of that mission, I went right for the portal and stepped on it went it despawned, went right off the edge of the platform.

Thumbnail looks like someones holding JöTHUN and hipfireing it at the city or am i crazy?

Looking up lore to see what the dark entity last season could be I stumbled upon Quria and haven't stopped thinking about it since. This season's story so far fits Quria perfectly. So glad you made this video.

I’ve been calling this since the season trailer.

Now that we're having some what of an alliance with the Eliksni and a cease-fire with the Cabal, I wouldnt be suprised if the next dlc or seasons talk about races fight along side eachother. Hive, Vex, Scorn and Taken for the Darkness vs Humanity, Eliksni, Cabal and the Awoken for the Light. As far fetched as that may be its fun to think about

this aged well

"Do not trust "Truth to Power"" Hey Byf, I have a question: How do you hide a powerful truth? Put it amongst powerful lies.

Seeing how it was just leaked a few hours ago it’s 100% confirmed

So what your saying is when the Season started, Savathun logged in and solo'd the raid by herself while the servers were down?

ngl this video and theory makes me think “oh dear. it’s coming isn’t it?”

Noticed as well when doing override, the final boss sometimes leaves a weird taken swirl like ones certain enemies have when you kill them

The rapid uploads from lore daddy byf 😩😩😩

That has to be quria. It’s the largest hydra out of all of them, it’s the only one without a shield surrounding it, and it has the same coloring as the light-eater ogres and taken colossus from TTK. There are too many visual similarities to oryx’s taken for it so simply be a visual spawning glitch. Man, witch queen is gonna be crazy

I was so glad someone else noticed this shit! I was so shook haha. Also. Can we just appreciate the presence of house light fallen in the tower. The world building is already so damn strong this season

Just gonna put this alternative possibility out there: The Vex Hydra we see (assuming it isn't a glitch and that it isn't a Taken) is possibly part of the same collective running the Vault of Glass, and they co-opted local Vex Minds, hence the "subjugated" prefix. The Almighty was chewing on Mercury before the Cabal decided to chuck it at the city and when we went in, there were clearly visible semi-intact Vex architecture and frames present. When it crashed on Earth, nobody bothered to scout out the ruins, which means that if any Vex Radiolaria survived the crash, Earth has been infected by the Vex by now, and we're only now seeing the symptoms (The Endless Night simulation) because that's how long it took for the Vex to accomplish setting up what they needed to make a simulation. I'm not saying that Savathun isn't involved, the theory that Quria/Savathun are responsible is entirely plausible, but, I thought I'd put that out as a possible alternative. Savathun could still be involved, simply taking advantage of the Vex infection of Earth to spread her own influence (such as twisting the FWC into something that lives up to the "cult" part of its name), but until we get confirmation in-game (not through leaks or datamines), I'd rather hold off on saying that it *is* Quria we saw.

Destiny community:It’s Quria Bungie: It’s suppose to look like the gorgons

Quria had arms and hands in the lore but ig old arts don’t exactly define the future ig. Like that vex boss back when.

(FAT SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOILERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR) It’s actually confirmed Quoria, data miners found out a weekly mission is literally “Destroy Quoria”

I have also been hearing lots more people whistling the song in the tower and helm.

11:10 i was in the edge of my seat, that platform spawned just in time

Is it even legal to be this early?

Mithrax: you must leave, do not fall in that lightless place! Byf: yeaaa but imma grab that blue first tho

Glad to find out about this cause I jumped through the portal as it disappeared, fell to my death while Mithraks was talking and respawned next to him. Missed the important few seconds...

Byf you are just the best lore master. I can’t be the only one who feels like everyone will have just seen that hydra and seen it as just another vex?

When I noticed that the hydra was taken and had the most intense rush of video game chills run down my spine. This is getting JUICY

Seeing this video after this weeks Splicer mission is crazy

I'm pretty sure Savathuun is behind it. The lore tabs for the new seasonal/FWC weapons mention three major points: 1) when FWC probes the false sky the "wrong" signals they get back are trojans that are incrimentally causing the city's systems issues (water, power, etc.), 2) nearly every FWC reading of the sky is laced with a hidden binary message that translates into Savathuun's Song, and 3) looking up at the false sky is causing citizens to become paranoid, aggressive, fearful, and to hallucinate.

every time im going to the helm savathuns song plays, cant remember hearing it so often, creeps me out everytime

If that theory is right, it would makes sense, since The Witch Queen DLC is coming out sometime next year.

Last season we made allies with some Cabal, this season it's allies with Eliksni, the only remaining enemy faction that isn't directly controlled by the darkness is the Vex so it makes sense that they're going to show that they are being controlled by the darkness this season

Hey Byf! You've probably already seen this but if you run the binary on The Deicide shotgun lore entry through a translator you get Savathun's viral chant. Considering the system invasions the tower is experiencing are coming from the vex and this is what it leaves behind she's 100% involved with the vex invasion. According to Aunor in the entry it's all over FWC's systems and elsewhere. Implies Lakshmi-2 is being manipulated by Savathun. Also pretty much confirms your theory for me. Love the content and the videos, keep up the great work!