Destiny 2 Lore - How did Caiatl react to Eris Turning into a Hive God? This could be tense... 

I like how pragmatic Caiatl is about all this. That, and she's basically like "If Eris Morn agrees that I can mount Xivu Arath's head on the front of my flagship, then she has my blessing."

that brief pause of realization that he just lost the hammer was felt and understood, 13:00

Caiatl is honestly one of the most underrated aspects of the story right now. Across Chosen, Risen, and Haunted, I think she easily has one of my favorite arcs up there with Crow (hoping he gets a big W in Final Shape speaking of which, he's had a lot of personal losses since Risen) and Eris.

Your time spent on Dynasty was not wasted.

That hammer yeet, miss and pause at 13:01 was to relatable...

Caiatl trusts Eris. That is Huge. Honestly I hoped for something like this. Honestly I can't help but feel the most visceral reaction is going to be from Misraaks. He's... likely not going to be happy about this at all. He has brought his people back into belief in, and love of, the Light. And we stray further and further from it, taking a more balanced view through necessity.

Caiatl is becoming a true leader, she knows that to defeat an enemy you must learn from them.

I really enjoy the character growth Caiatl is experiencing, makes for great stories

taking back the cabal homeworld would make an amazing season, imagine hive eris posing a powerful presence distracting most of the hive, while the rest of the season is guardians clearing out and freeing areas to get cabal foothold back, that would be a banger

I think everyone or the general mindset of Eris going God mode is akin to Caital's. A sort of the end justifies the means if it means we can end this war and truly start to rebuild.

This video made me realize how much Caiatl has grown since we first met her. She went from telling us to bow to if Eris wants to become a hive God then let it be.

Eris' transformation is a monumental event in terms of Destiny's story. Elsie didn't take this very well due to her many, many travels to the same dark future, is challenging Xivu's Sword Logic, and as we see in this video, Caiatl's reaction to the new God of Vengeance.

I really, really hope that Caiatl gets her revenge in a cutscene. Like, Eris Hive God and Us as Guardians critically wound Xivu, and Caiatl does the finishing blow; as the Cabal warrior she is

Next Video: How did Glorbo react to Eris turning into a Hive God?

I'd love to see a campaign/episode after the final shape where we help Caiatl retake the cabal homeworld from the hive.

I'm desperately hoping that we get to retake the cabal and eliksni homeworlds sometime after final shape. Imagine how awesome it would be to fight alongside Caiatl and Misraaks in order to claim their once lost homes, not to mention all of the narrative and character development possibilities that would come along with it. Hell, they could even give Eramis' story a satisfying end, whether that be through her death while reclaiming Riis or through her finally finding peace after giving her people a true home.

Watching you lob the hammer and pausing watching it near the end. I felt that, as a titan main.

Now I want the next expansion after The Final Shape to be about taking back torobattl. Would be cool to finally see the destiny universe travel beyond our solar system

I’m gonna be honest, I imagined Caital saw eris turn into a hive god, was silent for a solid minute, slowly began reaching for her weapon only for our guardian to push her hand down “no no it’s fine” “okey.”

I loved the lore. But gameplaywise, 12:59 as you stand there completely still as your hammer goes to the stratosphere is hilarious. Such a relatable moment lmaooo

Dude these constant vids are so good. This is definitely gonna be one of Destinys best seasons, maybe even periods. Are we next to become a hive god (Of death)

I wondering if "Heresy episode" will be about Caiatl and Xivu fight for torobatl or smth like that...

13:02 that half second you take to soak in the fact that you just lost your hammer is golden

Man, I love Byf! Can’t live without this guy! ❤

The slight pause to watch the hammer fly away off the map during the Altars gameplay is something I feel in my soul.

I love that moment at 13 minutes, that hammer just sailing off into the distance and Byf's little pause to watch it go XD

That pause of mourning at 13:01 had me. Rest in peace, hammer.

13:03 Shrike's little pause to look after the hammer going of into the skies 😂

The lore entry for the interaction is wonderful in my opinion because it shows the importance of Caiatl to the alliance while demonstrating the growth she has undergone starting with Ikora going over strategies for the conversation with Caiatl and ending with Caiatl's reasoning. I do sort of hope Caiatl and Eris work together as a team to finish Xivu building a stronger bond between while satisfying their desire for vengeance. They don't have to land the blow together. It would be fine if Caiatl finishes Xivu while Eris holds Xivu at bay since it is still them working together. My question is how will Caiati finishing Xivu will empower Eris as the god of vengeance, how will it affect her ability to return from being a hive god, and how will Caiatl's people see this? Caiatl may not be an acolyte of Eris, but it is still vengeance and it would be vengeance for an entire world and its people.

Ok, narration besides, I loved the slight pause as the mini hammer goes flying into the distance at 13:00

Byf this is something that should have been animated. This cinematic would have been amazing. I would definitely pay money to see a content creator reanimate this scene.

Caiatl is my favorite character in all of destiny, she’s always been written in such a way that she seems like a real person.

I still remember when that “Ghosts” lore card came out and everyone was speculating if the cabal where conquering or running, and it turned out to be both. The 4 legions we knew were conquering for Calus (see dunemarchers lore tab) while Ghaul and Caitel were fleeing the hive.

I gotta say the gameplay has come along way over the years. It’s amazing to watch

What I really love about this season in particular, is that we're seeing a parallel to the Dark Future lore book. It shows how fragile this timeline is, and how even one seemingly small decision could have changed everything and doomed us. Another really interesting thing to me is how the damning choices in the Dark Future seemed to be about not taking risks, and not taking those risks is what doomed those timelines. Reminds me of Unveiling "I win, because every time the Gardener stops to sue for piece, I strike." When we strike back, when we do not stop, this is how we ensure continuous positive momentum and increase the chances of saving the universe from the Witness.

Caiatl’s reaction is my favorite so for “besides if it brings me closer to crushing xivu arath’s skull than it has my blessing” oooh i felt that whole sentence!!!!

Caiatl is just plain inspirational. Not just as a Cabal, not just as the leader of her people, but as an Empress! I'd follow her into battle anytime!

if we could go to Torobatl after the Final Shape and get the Cabal their home world back i would be in for it! i love Caiatl's character growth alot

New Byf vid at the end of the work day, good time for a bathroom break.

Caiatal; so humble and reasonable for a warrior empress. This was a surprise.

You You know Byf I would back any future projects you have and making cinematics about destiny with $100 I'd rather spend my money on something that I know is going to be put together with honesty and integrity and with us in mind. Thank you for all you've done for this community

It’s been hinted at since Season of the Chosen that we may go to Torobatl, and the Cabal reclaim it from the Hive

im sorry 13:01 just watching the Hammer go off on its own adventure just made me chuckle a little.

Caiatl's response sent shivers down my spine, holy crap that's amazing

Also byf when you have time, checkout the new little Nadir pistol Heliocentric QSC. Light weight solar pistol with some nice traits, incandescent included. Might do well for your titan over that mida mini. I got one with frenzy heal clip alloy mag and it works wonders with ember of empyrian. Only downside is its high muzzle climb.

man i really wanna see how would hive eris and crow would react considering imaru said that crow started the whole scorn thing and knows some of the hive

I felt the sadness watching you throw that mini hammer away :( just sort of like “awe, bye buddy…” then turns around and keeps going

I really would love to see an expansion after the final shape were we help the eliksni take back their home worlds

I think Dynasty is extremely awesome with the insane context that Witch Queen gave.

Random idea I had that I think would be really cool. Across all the lore, all the in game history, if you had to make the strongest 6 person fireteam. Who would you choose and why?

I have my own headcannon that should things go wrong, Eris would trust in the guardian to stop her, like we stopped Oryx.

Well, Caiatl and the entirety of the cabal fleet could contribute a huge chunk to the "vengeance-battery" for Eris, that's for sure. Though in a way, if there would've been any members left from the people the Hive previously defeated, those would add up to that vengeance as well.

13:01 This moment right here. The video shows a hammer titan's soul crack.

I don't understand why Ikora contacted Caiatl of this news. In season of the deep, Zavala tasked Saladin to convince Caiatl that the resurrection of Savathun was necessary. Was this forgotten or overlooked by Bungie?

Dynasty was awesome Byf! You all should be proud of the work you did 😎

I’m so close to finally catching up after a 9 month hiatus

The fact that Eris isn’t in any of the Final Shape trailers does make me worry about her. They’ve proven several times now that being a long standing character doesn’t make you immune to death by writers, and as someone pointed out, if Caiatl gets the final blow in on Xivu Arath, she would be acting on the vengeance of an entire world, and such an immense tithe could unintentionally overwhelm or permanently transform Eris.

Two thoughts; I agree that Caiatl's change since the Season of the Worthy is another example of great characters and storytelling from the team at Bungie. She's gone from a disposed ruler to a possible enemy to now a valued ally who has fought side by side with us on multiple occasions. I'd love to see her and Hive God Eris fighting side by side by the end of this or next season's end. Second, I would LOVE to see one of the episodes where we help the Cabal and maybe even the Elinski go and reclaim their lost worlds. We would get to fight on other worlds that would give the art and design folks a great opportunity to stretch their creative juices; who doesn't want to see a whole Cabal planet? A whole Elinski planet?

Caiatl is very rapidly becoming one of my favorite characters.

I love destiny because the way it is written, this could have been part of Savathun’s planning all along. From the destruction of torabatl all the way until now. Crazy

13:00 A moment every solar Titan feels...regret...

The cabal empress has grown. Truly a big step for the cabal.

The clear possibility that Savathun may well have turned Xivu loose on Torobatl for the purpose of driving Caiatl into the Coalition in the first place... Well, in a way it makes Caiatl's pragmatic assessment more impressive, but also damn that's grim.

So I think everyone can agree that Mithrax is Bungie’s new take on The Arbiter, but now I’m starting to think Caiatl is the analogue for The Shipmaster from the days of Halo. Level-headed, trusting to those who earn it, fearless. I’d say it fits.

Ikora: uuhh Empress…we kinda need to revive savathun to save the traveler…and everyone else…😰 Empress Cital:…aight Ikora:🤨😮‍💨

Caiatl has gotten the most character development so far.

If things go bad, I know who I’m calling… Randall the Vandal.

So we got the fallen cabal and hive on our side WHATS NEXT VEX!?!?

I think we'll have A seson this time. Man, only one week through and so many lore!

I know this may seem far fetched, but I think we are going to be able to go to Torobatl sometime after The Final Shape.

Caiatl was our adversary... But now she's a real one, a real OG o7

You know this makes me think one of the seasons after the final shape may be us retaking toribatal with the empress

As a titan main I felt that 13:00

At this point im wondering if Torobatl was delivered by Savathun to either 1- force caitl to flee to sol knowing we would try to ally or 2- make Xivu stronger so we would be forced to resurrect her for help defeating xivu later or a manipulation of the hives sword logic to give our guardian more power in order to stand a chance against the Witness

I like that there are still Cabal pilots even though psions have taken over most of those positions

The fact that i am hyping myself up on the Idea of fighting alongside the Cabal to retake the homeworld than i am interested in The Final Shape or anything else in Destiny's expansive universe speaks how awesome Caiatl as a character is. If i don't ever hear Saladin speak the Cabal motto atleast once then I'll be pretty disappointed in the wasted opportunity. I will gladly fight alongside more on the streets and temples of Torobatl. We are Cabal. We eat the mountains. We drink the seas. And we will make the Hive pay their debt with compound interest.

My expectation, having not read all the lore entries and such yet: "She fucking did what." -Caiatl

Holy shit that knocking sound was too real

This is the type of reaction content I like to see

I really hope we can take back the Cabal homeworld in a future season. That would be so awesome!!

Hmm, do you imagine one of the expansions after lightfall is us going to the cabal homeworld to help Caiatl retake it?

Caital was so spiteful of Eris especially in the nightmare season of the haunted for her using hive magics. But she's come to understand that just like a weapon, it's not the magic but it's the hands behind it. How many people have come to trust Eris' off the books methods brings a smile to my face

She was also willing to destroy the dreaming city to annihilate the Hive sister

I want Torabatl. I want to fight alongside Caiatl and the Ascendancy to throw Xivu off their world. Here’s hoping that we get the chance after the Final Shape…

Man I hope one of the episodes following lightfall is everyone joining arms to retake torabotal

I was kind of expecting something along this reaction, actually. Xivu is a Hive God of War, growing more powerful with any declaration or decision to go to war. This immediately would put Caital at a disadvantage as the entirety of her people are based on war. But now with Eris being a Hive God of Vengeance, Caital and the entire Cabal army can fight with the vengeance of Torobatl in their minds, tithing to Eris rather than Xivu and swaying the odds even closer to our favor

Phew.. this isnt just relieving the stress in Ikora's mind, but also in our minds. We cant risk losing this allegiance with Caiatl.

NGL, retaking Torobatl is something I'd definitely want to see in game.

I hope The empress gets an actual blow on Xivu. I genuinely thought it was scummy she wasn't an NPC in the Calus boss fight. It was HER revenge.

13:00 rough. I felt that.

I have a theory The traveler is paracasual, meaning that he has powers that break physics, right? Well, what if he could see into the future, knew what would happen, and gave Savathûn the light so that she can be resurrected easier.

13:00 I felt that 😬

I wonder how Mara feels about this. She does have contingency plans in case one of her allies takes the wrong path

As a titan, that hammer throw on the last witch is sad and hilarious

I love the lore video, but when Byf’s hammer flew off into the void… I felt that 😢

Can confirm I was there, caiatl wanted to nuke the throne world to oblivion....

Why did I start to tear up at Caital's reaction to Eris's plan? Funny how a video game can inspire such emotions when it's done well. ♥️✌️

Character development, we love to see it.

I scanned the robots by xur in the tower did anyone else see that shaxx has to turn off redjacks Bcs they keep getting hacked….. ghost says all he sees in the system is Arcite and dahila over and over. THE UPRISING

What scares me most about Xivu Arath, is that we have no idea WHERE she is! It has been hinted at throughout Season of Defiance that she has a terrace somewhere in the ascendant plane, close to the Scarlet Keep. In Season of the Deep she was a very dominant character throughout the campaign… Where is she? We don’t know. There is also no place for Xivu to retreat to, as she doesn’t have a throne world. We have only one exact place where we are certain of where she is located, or should I say when she is located… The destruction of Torobatl. It is the only known place throughout Destiny History where Xivu Arath HERSELF was FOR CERTAIN. Thus.. I fear we might have to use the Sundial to go there to find her… However, in my opinion Xivu is the Strongest enemy of them all (apart from the Witness), simply because she gets power from all that we kill. She gained power from Oryx’s and Savathûn’s deaths, she gained power from Rhulk’s and Nezarec’s deaths, and she most certainly gained power from Riven’s, Clayde’s and Uldren’s deaths. This makes her the strongest opponent we have faced thus far… AND WE DON’T KNOW WHERE SHE IS!