I remember waking up early the day of the Last Wish race, tuning into your stream and watching until I had to go to work. Luckily the restaurant was dead quiet all day, so I got to peak in every thirty minutes or so to see how you were progressing with the rest of Math Class. I got out of work around 10:30 that night, and watched until I passed out around 3am. I woke up the exact moment you dumped Riven's heart into the shrine, watching and waiting to see if you had beat the 24 hour mark. I remember the sound of defeat in all of your voices when you found out about your 24:02 finish, I remember how proud of you chat (myself included) were when you finally crossed that just out-of-reach finish line. That raid race inspired me to start running Day 1's ever since. So even if you didn't get the top slot in the World's First race you got the top slot in my heart, Datto. Your effort to Destiny and its' community is tremendous and everyone here loves you for it. See you in the next raid race, I'll let you hold the belt when I get it
I really hope The Witch Queen raid embraces that King’s Fall/Last Wish raid design philosophy. I wanna go to *war* against 4 or 5 beings of epic proportion.
I want them to talk. No joke. I love that in the campaign of Forsaken we had Barons with voices and personalities. I want more of this in both the story campaign and also in Raids. I loved that Calus actually talked to us in his raid/lairs.
On DSC my team cleared the first actual encounter just a few minuets after you did but then got pub stomped at Atraks. We spent 13 hours on that encounter before giving up. Although it was a bitch I am proud of our team for our first day 1 raid attempt. When we returned for VoG we moved quickly making it to gatekeeper before worlds first but then spent 8 hours on Atheon before beating him.
The funniest thing about day 1 D2 vog is how much people were expecting to roll aetheon, and then ended up on him for longer than it took some teams to clear the raid lmao
My favorite experience was deep stone crypt. Although it was easy it was my first real attempt and clear for day one, it was easily the most fun I’ve had in the game, probably any game I’ve played. Took us 14 hours to complete and when we did I had a true smile on my face for the first time in years. If you haven’t even attempted a day one raid I highly recommend it.
I was there the whole stream for kings fall… thank god I was in high school so yeh… I was so dumbfounded by how big KF was I was so intimidated trying it for the first time…… but the raid is amazing I hope it gets the vault treatment with a remaster.. love every gun every boss fight every encounter. Isn’t by far the best raid but one of my personal favorites.
Day 1 DSC is my favorite so far, we struggled a bunch on Crypt Security for dumb reasons, just not figuring out that we need to pass scanner down stairs for DPS phase. By the time we got to Atraks-1 we looked up strategies, which killed some of the blind prog experience but I'll never forget my first time going in the launch pod
I've never done a day 1 raid, closest thing I have done to it is Grasp of Avarice on day 1, which is obviously nothing compared to the difficulty of a day 1 raid, but I hope that this time in the Witch Queen I do get to experience the day 1 raid. Day 1 GoA was super fun so I can already imagine how much fun day 1 of the witch queen raid will be.
My only experience with Day one raid racing is with Deep Stone Crypt. My uncle had gotten really into the game (I already was) and he bought us both Beyond Light. We grinded for hours every day and were doing really well for ourselves. When DSC was announced, he texted me and all he said was "We're doing it". And we did, we got to light level, started streaming, and hopped into the raid. Things were going well in the beginning, we were keeping up with most of the high end raid teams, we thought we might get a high placing, and then Atraks came in and killed the run. We played dsc for about 16-17 hours that day, no bathroom breaks or food breaks and didn't end up beating it. But the fun we had, the banter, the hope, and the great teamwork is what makes it my favorite destiny experience.
Leviathan was my first raid not counting the 2 man carry 2 of my friends did for me in Crotas End before Destiny 2 came out. I never had friends to play Destiny with until just before the launch of Destiny 2. I was fortunate enough to be brought back by a friend who played the entirety of D1 with me and I’m so grateful for it. Leviathan was my first raid and I finished it week 1 no glitching. It will always be MY personal treasured raid and I would love it to come back. I still have the weapons from my first clear and will never delete them.
My 1st day 1 heartbreak was dsc , goto final boss and got taniks down to final stand and couldnt get back to final stand , so after 18 hours my team gave up . Was truly a heartbreaking moment for me
Only tried day one twice. In DSC, we got to Atraks pretty quickly, only like an hour and a half of effort. We were stuck on atraks for 10 hours I think, not including like 2 hours of down time so people could take care of responsibilities (including me taking an online final for a class). We beat her at like 6 in the morning and we're all too tired to even bother trying to finish it so we didn't even attempt phase 1 Taniks. In VoG, we were stuck on templar for like 6 hours and then people started fighting and the team dissolved. So DSC was way more fun
Arrggghhh!! My eyes!! How on earth did we cope with that FOV back in D1? Jumping from D2 (Scourge) straight into that D1 Kings Fall section makes it so clear how much difference there is! Wow.
I've only ever been able to attempt 2 day 1s (DSC and VoG) as I never had a consistent raid group up until that point. Out of the original fireteam for our DSC, only 2 of us actually remained upon completing it 18 hours after it came out. I was running completely on Monster and Advil at that point, but that's to this day the best experience I've had in any game. That emblem will NEVER come off, even if I get day 1 Witch Queen raid.
Eater of Worlds is the only raid I’ve completed on day one. I remember I wasn’t even trying to complete it, my family and I had just brought a Christmas tree home, it was like 5:00 in the afternoon and I hopped on Xbox and went to LFG. Got it done in just under an hour
You know, for all the memes that came out on 24:02, I think the silver lining it actually made your team as famous or talked about as the WF team. Can’t tell you how many people I encountered who knew who redeem and the 24:02 teams were, but couldn’t even name the second team.
Vog 2: electric boogaloo was my first day 1 raid experience, complete with having joined a new clan just the season prior. We all managed to make it to atheon, despite having LFG woes. Super proud of what we did and we're all stoked to try twq raid day 1!
My clan typically runs day 1 raids for the fun of it, but it can make or break teams at times. Underlying issues between members can really become apparent during raids.
I have only participated in three Day 1 experiences: King's Fall, Deep Stone Crypt, and Vault of Glass in D2. King's Fall was a ton of fun, but also a lot of stress, because at the time, I just started uni, so I wasn't grinding levels like crazy. I don't quite remember which level we started at, but at Totems, I was like, 30 light underleveled, so we actually had to back out, grind some levels, and come back a couple hours later just to have a chance. We ended up reaching the Deathsingers, and we were pretty beaten up at that moment. Deep Stone was a journey. We spent like 8 straight hours on Atraks-1, and after 16 or so hours in the raid, we had to leave, because we were wiping out of tiredness. Almost the same experience with VoG 2, since we spent like 4 hours in Oracles, just because we weren't gaming, another 4 in Templar, a couple in Gatekeepers, and the rest of the time at Atheon. Left at the 13 or 14th hour in because we weren't giving the right callouts, not even reaching the challenge mode. I am still pumped for Witch Queen to try to get a Day 1 emblem for the first time.
My favorite day 1 experience may surprise some but it was definitely Garden of Salvation. My team went ultimate sweaty those few days before the race and most of us managed to hit 950+ power before the raid dropped. We kept a good pace with all the popular streamers up until consecrated mind where we fell behind a bunch. I learned a valuable lesson in the sanctified mind encounter. Always listen to strategy suggestions even if they sound wild. Had we listened to a random thought early in our fight, our team would have likely been the only console clear of the raid. Instead we bashed our heads against the encounter using faulty strats sending 1 person into both sides at the same time which ultimately broke us. I’m still very proud of that team and our world’s first Xbox clear but I still kick myself to this day about missing out on the day 1 emblem
Deep Stone Crypt was it for me. 3 second clutch on Crypt Security, beating Atraks after some 10 hours and then killing Taniks at 5:47pm, 13 minutes before reset. I will never forget that experience
Even though I don't have no day 1 experience when it comes to raids, I absolutely made sure I was at least in the raid for Garden on day 1. I matched with an LFG group and they were the most chillest guys I've ever played with. The atmosphere was great and I felt comfortable since it wasn't so competitive but rather "lets play and have fun and see if we can beat it." It was the most fun I had in Destiny. Our group was so chill that during the 2nd encounter we used baseball terminology for the callouts of the relay points. Angelic at 3nd base! Wave the runner home I need a buff! Angelic is trying to steal 2nd! "Bit exaggerated" but that's basically how it went and I loved it. We managed to complete that encounter and the atmosphere was amazing. Unforunately they all had to go and I was never able to get back in contact with them. One of those in the moment moments. 2nd for me has to be completing VoG for the first time. I'll remember every single one of us screaming as if we won the super bowl. It was... Unbelievable. I know a lot of people find fun in chasing after that worlds 1st. But for me personally, I enjoy the experience of playing a new raid and figuring out the mechanics :)
I vividly remember flipping the fuck out after watching Datto's team finishing Crown of Sorrow during my break at work. I also remember being so disappointed when I learned it actually wasn't a world first run. Like a legit feels bad moment... can't imagine how Datto and team must've been feeling.
Only did Crypt and New VoG day one, Crypt was a bit of a nightmare because me and a friend had a falling out on it, but man. VoG was fun. It was a bit stressful, our brains were fried as hell, and even though we didn’t clear it, I thought we did okay considering we’d never even done a GM at that point. Looking forward to Witch Queen
My favorite moment during day 1 raids for me was during vog D2. A little bit into gatekeeper my power went out. I was calling my friends seeing if I could finish day 1 at their place. I ended up going to my grandmas house finish the raid. Luckily it didn’t set us back too bad, only an hour or two and was able to complete the day 1 still.
DSC was my first day 1 experience and I’ll tell ya I rock that emblem on my warlock everyday, it took us about 21 hours and we placed somewhere around 3k but I don’t care I had so much fun and although atraks was a bitch and a half taking us 7 hours it was great watching her disintegrate and hearing Clovis while the chest appeared before us.
I really only have 1 day one experience and that was Deep Stone. I had been playing since year 2 and was ready day 1 for Crown but I had school the following day so I wasn't able to participate. But day 1 DSC my god that was 20 hours of something, not sure if joy, or sadness, or just a sense of relief. The main things that I will forever remember about that raid where our kills on Atrax and Taniks and the SpaceWalk. Both Taniks and Atrax died as the wipe timer was at 0 not even sure how but they died and the space walk after the gauntlet that was Atrax it felt like an out of body experience.
To this day EOW is the only raid I've beaten day 1. I think that and Garden are pretty much the only times I've attempted day 1 raids but I've gotta say both of them have felt pretty good even if I can just say that I was a part of the races, even if I had no hope of finishing Garden.
ggs Datto. Saying it now cuz you’re gonna get that W this time my boy. You and your team are gonna get that worlds first for the witch queen raid!! I got full faith and confidence in y’all!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
My list of day 1 raid experience is VoG 2.0 normal. Every previous day 1 raid i was either under leveled, had no one to group with, or worst of all i had to work. VoG 2.0 was the first time i was able to play day 1, my group got up to atheon but we lacked the damage because most of my group were casuals and 2 or 3 didn't have anything they could use for high dps, 1 had no stasis warlock aspects or fragments, and also they had no cuirass, nighthawk, or geomags for dps supers so literally we were just fucked for dmg.
My first day one was for DSC and it was so fun with my friends i stg we could’ve ranked top ten but for some reason taniks destroyed us for hours and we ended up calling it at 3am. Still the most fun i’ve had in destiny though
Got kicked out of my clan on day one of kings fall because I figured out how to open the doors to the first boss. War something I can remember. On the first try and they thought I looked up guides. So they kicked me out 😂 had to LFG everything since tell I stopped playing when scourge came out
Sounds to me Datto needs to take a break from the race. If you're not enjoying it then maybe jump into your clans C or D team (lol) and just enjoy the day 1 experience. You don't need to prove you're a good player, we already know that, you should be enjoying the experience. Day 1 raids are special and shouldn't be thought of as a chore or job. Hope this next one is better for you.
I would like to have contest also for dungeons/secret mission Grasp of Avarice was a desaster on day 1. I tried to get a good placement with my team, but the fact that all of us had to download the update first, and next nobody couldnt launch into the game because of a waiting queue it cost us over 40min to launch Grasp of Avarice. So that was not even close to fairness. Only people who uploaded the update very fast, because they had fast internet and were lucky with the waiting queue had a chance to get a good place in day 1. Thats kind of sad! But thats not all, you could launch Master version before Normal version, that means, while everyone else fighting for day 1 normal you could snag a good place at least on Master. And how I said, no contest, and thats just too boring I don´t get it, why bungie not design day 1 dungeon like day 1 raids where all people have the same chance to get world first. Imagine you would have to download update first, then waiting 30min in waiting queue, do some quest steps first, before you are able to launch the raid and so on
I'm still salty about the group I ran with for DSC day 1. We got hard stuck at Atraks, and despite their insistence on us finishing no matter how long it took the few days before, they gave up entirely at the 10ish hour mark. It was really disheartening being the only one who actually wanted to keep going to try and finish. The biggest issue was one guy who wasn't carrying his weight (he consistently missed the damage against the boss somehow), and they never entertained the idea of swapping him out. The guys were a bunch of jackasses though and I no longer speak with them, so I guess it's fine lmao. We also didn't finish our day 1 Wrath of the Machine, similarly due to 1 guy not pulling his weight. But whatever.
I respect the list. I hold Garden at the top of my list as it was the first day 1 clear for myself and I haven't had that satisfying feeling of beating the final boss since. I really wish Bungie could allow players to enable contest for any raid even if it doesn't reward anything, just to "experience" what it was like on day 1, as well as practice for the next raid. Really hoping the WQ raid will be a good one and one that will be mechanically demanding for all 6 players. Best of luck in WQ!
My team would have gotten the 24 hours done with deep stone crypt but one guy decided to instead of sleeping 5 hours he slept 8 withaut even telling us and bc we had no remplacement we had to wait 3 hours and half for him to wake up we did atraks 1st try after 8 hours of suffering last night we did 3rd phase in 25 minutes and we had 2 hours and half left for taniks after one hour and half we learned it and did good dmg phases but on the literal last hour i was having internet issues wich stoped happening literally after 1 hour of internet problems I dont talk with the guy who took from us 3 hours of the raid and our life and i see its completly justified
I'm still chasing the high of the Day 1 Last Wish experience and the absolute joy it gave me to win that race. It was the ideal experience for me and although I don't think we'll get another Day 1 like it. I hope we do.
I feel like a lot of us were too busy, and in some cases, far too 'loyal', in chat with the "24:02 ree" to properly congratulate your team, I feel like. That whole race is still a huge highlight even as a viewer who can't really partake
I tried it for a few hours, could not beat Kalli, went to sleep. Woke up and after breakfast checked who had won. Only to find you guys still at Riven! Awesome experience!
Hey Datto, would LOVE IT if you considered making a video about how YOUR team specifically prepares for events like this! As you may know, Deep Stone Crypt had the highest number of players attempting a day one ever, and I'm sure the Witch Queen raid will top those numbers, so it is very much apparent that new players dig this stuff! It would be great to hear how people who place very highly (such as you and your team) prepare mentally/physically and so on.
My team and I spent 21.5 hours in Deep Stone day 1: one of our teammates got arrested and his replacement was at a party so we spent like an hour or two sitting at atraks waiting to get the full squad again. EDIT: Ex thought he was stalking her because he called to see if she was okay, she called the police.
That face when datto ranks your two favorite day ones as the worst, feels bad. Also, that feeling about dsc feeling too easy after a year of no raids is hugely relatable, especially after the thrill and how hard sanctified mind was. I don't know if was the huge difficulty or the feel of the older raids, but I really hope the witch queen raid delivers big on difficulty in both mechanics and enemies, cuz I just haven't felt pumped since gos, or maybe even before that back with lw.
I feel like the reason DSC was so easy was due to the fact that the adds just didn't do shit in that raid for some reason. Like on contest mode, people just ran double slug + anarchy since the adds couldn't even kill you lmao. The chaos room in any other raid would've been a death sentence due to add density but in this one it was a joke.
I have to agree with most of this list, only swapping a few around by one position. Last Wish for me has been Bungie's pinnacle raid experience in my eyes. Vault of Glass always holds a special spot for being the first Raid I've ever done and Kings Fall is near the top for being that massive refresh we all needed in Taken King but for me Last Wish was just so damn perfect with the entire story of the dreaming city, the fact we could see the raid in the open world and just the scale of the raid plus it was maybe the first raid for me were I took part in the worlds 1st race, though my team didn't beat it until day 3 so that was a bust. Still we remember being just as fast as everyone else on the first boss, but the Vault grinded us to a halt real quick lol. I still look at Last Wish as a fond memory, I just enjoy that even beyond a raid now it's fun to use it for catalysts and even just to glitch into and explore around the area's and play mini games like hide and seek in. Great video Datto. I love these look back styles where you give us more input on things and be proud of that 24:02:00 that's dedication.
My teams day 1 for DSC ended with everyone having no hope at the end. We got to taniks and got him down to something equivalent of like .01% where even a single grenade would kill him, and two of my teammates missed their Izzy shots and one of my teammates missed his grenade. Definitely a soar spot haha
As a spectator, Last Wish was epic! Watching the top teams go through the raid and hitting volt was crazy. And being in the dreaming city when the worlds first completed the race and getting the cut scene was something I will always remember. I then tuned back into your stream to watch you complete it after 24:02.
I remember vividly going to bed while you guys were on Riven... and then waking up and you were still on Riven. It was admittedly not a full night's rest because I'd stayed up late watching, but even now it's difficult to describe how it felt seeing you grind away at it for so long. Also that Crown of Sorrows debacle is heartbreaking and my heart hurts for you even after all this time.
DSC was heartbreaking for me, which is a shame because it’s one of my favourite raids. In the first encounter we figured it out in a few runs (we actually overcomplicated it by doing it the challenge mode way on day 1) and that brought so much momentum going into Atraks, and then we just faceplanted into a wall. Part of it was definitely the health rubber banding issue that Atraks had on day 1, but we also just made dumb mistakes and had some people that stubbornly refused to change loadouts that weren’t working. We ended up stuck at Atraks for 14 hours and called it quits at like 5 or 6 in the morning, and never finished it day 1. It’s a shame because the space walk with Deep Stone Lullaby is one of my favourite Destiny experiences to date, and I’ve seen SO many people talk about how special it was after finally getting past Atraks and really wish I got to experience it. Crown was actually one of my favourite day 1 experiences, and the boss fight was one of my favourites for a while. We didn’t even plan to run the raid day 1 because we thought we didn’t have a team, but by chance ended up with 6 people online and decided to go for it. I was really proud of how well we did figuring out the mechanics and performing in the boss fight under context, and I think if one of our guys hadn’t rage quit we might have had a day 1 clear. I don’t remember exactly but I think we were in the top 10 teams to clear it on console in the first week.
I really hope this next raid in WQ will be something to give you, Datto, the excitement you have been looking for. She is the Hive god of trickery, so maybe no encounter will run in any standard way. Here's to hoping.
Raid race is overhyped in my eyes like at the end of the day destiny is a game to me that I like to play and i invested in over 3000 hours into it, a “race” for beating an endgame content is cool but nothing extremely that’ll get me hyped up
I’m hoping witch queen raid is on the levels of last wish in terms of difficulty and the aftermath. Like what beating the raid did like unlocking the shattered throne and the 14 wishes and other exotic quests and how the effects of beating that raid is still lasting today. We get a raid like last wish again and man I’ll be happy
