I've been trying SO HARD to get to the galaxy pools for so long till I decided to quit on it. But, seeing this new way, it could help me now! I'll do it... in the name of The Traveler!
With phrases like "the observer rejects your reality" and "jump on the skimmer just to assert your dominance," I started to think that this was an April fool's video that I had missed.
Nah, Quantum Skimmer just acts like that XD We had one time while attempting the route where a blueberry gained ownership when we tried a teleport. Took us a few minutes to track down where it went.
Something I didn’t know about the Galaxy Pools up until about 3 months ago was, all that structure below the platform. Another thing I haven’t seen at at all, CLIP INTO IT. No video I have EVER seen talking about this place has tried to do that. Theres no reason they only made a platform, that you only see from the top to observe ONE event has any reason to have all that below it, that you’d never see other than when the beam is carrying you to it. There HAS to be something they put inside.
OOB has never really interested me but when you make a video im completely locked in... you're a legend Froggy could be the buttery smooth voice... who knows lol
I use this to fall asleep sometimes. your voice is very soothing and I dont find myse;lf paying attention to what's happening. it's just white noise. I watch them again bc I like OOB stuff, but you have a unique channel, here.
Thanks for sending me to the galaxy pools for the first time. Was trying the last strat for MONTHS before this came out. Took 45 minutes and a small argument on how to not be bad at guiding me lol
Nah, there's just no load there. I suppose I haven't checked if it's a disabled load. Probably not, given the way the geometry is. Assuming you can make one in the strike, it'd make hitting the Lynx easier.
@@Froggy618157725 I actually wanted to check if the areas were connected, but I couldn't get out of map in the strike. That leads me to think that it works kinda like the Black Garden on the Moon
(Spoiler?) The new Archie mission for this week takes you into the dark forest, right up to the shard. I know a few people have made it to an outcrop of rock back behind the shard in the playable area that doesn't have kill barriers, and lets you walk right into the grav lift, but it's still inside the push boundary box. I've prodded all around the area and haven't been able to find a way out of the box, but I have flown to the rocky area and hit the start of the grav lift! Surely you can find a way to break out around there.
Not without something as powerful as a general box break, and we're already using one of those for the other routes. It definitely lets you get to the grav lift easier than the normal OOB route, but otherwise it doesn't help with getting to pools.
Interestingly enough, this could be the last chance we get to explore the area in its current form. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets altered in TFS and used for story content.
I discovered while playing Seraph Shield that a double-grapple Hunter with Stompees is all it takes to climb on top of the habitation rings on the far side of the station. To do this the player has to strand climb to a ledge above the hanger doorway, then jump towards the front of the station, using your super grapples across the sloped surface. From there you should make it to a large platform where you can grapple up to the arm that leads to the inner ring. After climbing up the arm, grapple to the outer ring by landing on a large 2D antenna that has collision. When your super is refilled, grapple up the ring then use your super to refresh your grapples to keep pulling yourself up the ring. This should get you to the top of the station ring. The vertical solar panels are scalable, but the height ceiling prevents the player from reaching the very top.
It exists in a superposition of states that collapse upon observation, jumping between states without touching any of the space between. Seems pretty Quantum to me ;)
@@Froggy618157725 well yeah I gathered that from your line about someone in the load zone observing it. Its like the only time you guys used quantum right bc there's also the quantum sparrow where both observers are technically right and the quantum finisher. Call that thang the Einstein sparrow
@@Froggy618157725 has bungie patched the navigator method? I tried to use this method but when I switched to a second navigator, Gordian knot was still on cool down. I am doing it wrong? Can you test this?
Anytime you hit a loadzone, people can leave and rejoin and they'll join in the same zone the fireteam leader is in. So once one person gets there, everyone else can leave and join. As an aside, unless you explicitly want to take the fireteam to orbit, you should always change characters to leave. It's safer and faster. Would be unfortunate to get there only to take them to orbit because you forgot who the leader was.
going to attempt this trick this weekend hopefully. Will this be possible if the observer is on PS5? im on pc and my friend is ps5 and ive read through every comment and reply on here and see a person mentioning success on 'new gen xbox' but nothing on ps5 so i dunno what to make of that. Also i was under the impression that ALL consoles were locked at 30fps (ps4/ps5, xbone, xbox series)? or have i taken too long a break from the game and thats changed?
I have an issue where when I get to the dark forest load and get my skimmer in position to jump up it won’t let me jump at all no matter what I try, any idea why this could be?
This seems to be a bug introduced with Final Shape. Currently you would need to stop on the lake and IRB out to join. This can be done via grapple flying and the boxless armsdealer load.
This pretty much is that version. The only place I used strand was at the end, to gain some height. Given that you start way above, there's many other ways to get into the tractor beam. It's just riskier to try to go direct If mountain top shots will hit the water, you could use that. But I think they just go through... Otherwise you'd want to go from above, and hope you don't hit the box pull, or the tractor beam post load.
Thanks for this! Quick question, once you are in the Galaxy Pools, if someone joins your fireteam will they land in the pools? I'm thinking this might be a fun side project to do with a couple friends and it'd be cool if we could join on whoever is able to actually make the journey.
Yup. You join into the same zone that the fireteam leader is in. So if one person goes to Quarantine Sector, and one to Galaxy Pools, a third person could swap between them if you promote the person at the destination you want to zone in to.
Not sure what you're asking exactly. Sword flying normally has you jumping as catapult lift recharges. I've got my old guide on that stuff generally here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u81UgKyRiQE.html If you mean for the skimmer, a quantum Skimmer remains in place for the rider, so it remains on the ground.
For some reason the skimmer will no longer jump when i place it in the second spot (right before the dark forest). I've been trying for days and i have no idea what i'm doing wrong. Thx for the tutorial, btw.
If the skimmer thinks it's in the air, you won't be able to jump. I've also heard it can be weird at 30 fps. You can try syncing it to a different location to see if that helps.
@@Froggy618157725 I play on Console, but my observer is on PC. He sets at 30 fps until we reach the sniper part. Well, i'll try again soon syncing the skimmer in different places (:
I'm not super sure whose frame rate matters for the jumping. I assume the skimmer rider, but haven't messed around with that part. I added that info pretty late, hence it being just text.
@@Froggy618157725 i tried yesterday, when my skimmer is stuck on the tree i can spam the jump button and it'll do the animation just fine. However, the moment we sync the vehicle to any other place it stops working. I really don't know what to do, it might be a framerate issue, i play on ps4 and my observer on pc. Maybe this doesn't work on console...
Finally got there! And i can confirm for you guys, you can't be the skimmer rider on console because you gotta be capped at 60fps, otherwise you can't jump when you sync the vehicle. Hope this will be helpful. Thanks for the tutorial, Froggy!
If you have navigator, you can just use that. Otherwise you'd have to get a bit fancier with the sparrow flying method, or get a good skate, with blinky extension stuff.
You're in complete control of that timing as the observer. If you don't look, it won't go. If you look less hard (lower zoom), it'll generally take longer. It just so happens that having the observer just stare at it works best most of the time.
Hey Froggy, I have a genuine question. Do you know about the massive taken blight/ball under the lake of shadows final boss arena? I uploaded a video about it today, and I wasn't able to find anyone covering it with a video or a reddit post. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Rings some vague bells. I miss reservoir 2.0 :( I think you used to be able to go up to the boss room from below. Not sure if that's still the case, or if it was patched in one of the anti cheese patches.
Same. Found one accidentally within like a minute XD Putting together a video for it some time in the next few days, depending on how much Whisper and Onslaught I do...
Since we hit a load zone when entering the galaxy pools, does that mean my friends can directly tp to me via rejoining fireteam so they explore the palce aswell?
There used to be a way to get to Galaxy Pools solo and than out of nowhere it wasn't possible solo anymore.... Over the years things have changed in the game which might of made it possible to solo has anyone found a method to solo Galaxy Pools again?
If we can wrong load on a no disabled load we've got a method. Definitely would be tricky, and far easier with two though. Drop box could be done somewhat solo, as long as you instance matched with a flipped sparrow in the right spot.
@@Froggy618157725 PLEASE do the community a favor..... when you have a method for getting to Galaxy Pools solo figured out please make a video on it, Thank you
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eWDqfPI0bUg.html That's the closest to a solo route we currently have. You can sword fly up instead of thundercrashing at the end.
I just cant seem to get the teleport to work (when going up through the roof to hit the dismount re-mount). If anyone is willing to help that would be very nice.
@@Froggy618157725 it's very consistent aswell spent the last few days trying and just no luck, I've honestly been hoping someone would take my there or that I'd run into other players trying it
You can control the speed of the teleport. Lower zoom seems to make it slower, but the observer can also just look away, then look back when you start getting on.
@@imspecialhunter268 You should tell me exactly what you see, or I can't really give you specific advice. Does the skimmer tp without you? Is it not teleporting at all? Do you have an observer?
@Froggy618157725 sorry, yeah I have someone, watching, I might just be really unlucky tbh, the skimmer teleports without me if I take to long obvi, but It just won't tp me when I try, might be bad luck tbh
@@imspecialhunter268 It might help if the observer is at lower frames. If you're seeing the circle complete and it teleports without you, then it's a line of sight issue. If it's going before you have a chance to get back on, you can have the observer look away, or perhaps use lower zoom.
At the moment I don't think there's any free ones. I'm not even sure if the paid one is available. I'm sure it'll be back soon enough though. No way they make it once a year
@@Froggy618157725 so is more zoom on a sniper worse than low zoom? As first person had a whisper on and I did it first try, but my other friend I think has a random purple sniper and I think both have 40zoom
@Froggy618157725 my first friend was on console using whisper, and this friend is on a high end pc running a random purple with 40zoom, but idk if it has more or less actual zoom, though he's also on uncapped
@@Froggy618157725 my first friend is on xbox and had used whisper, this friend is on pc using a generic 40zoom purple, but it feels impossible to get back on the skimmer in time, both snipers say they have 40zoom
Warlock can probably use heat rises and eager edge, and maybe Dawnblade. Haven't tried. You'll need to modify the route a bit and maybe take a riskier path. For Hunter maybe if you get a really good skate and place it perfectly... You're probably need to land in the tractor beam from above for both.
Can't summon in Dark Forest. Quantum Skimmers do not move for the owner. It only moves when updates by an observer while it's not being ridden, so you'd have to resync to gain any distance that way.
Not sure what you mean. After the jumping up part, you need to dismount and remount when the observer causes the skimmer to update to a position above you. If you get the timing right, and have direct line of sight to the skimmer, you'll teleport with it as you start to ride it. That's the same zone, just above the box barrier. Is that the part you're having trouble with? If so, what exactly happens?
@@Froggy618157725 Hmm okay, because we are doing that and i dismount/remount and I never get put into the box barrier area. While the observer is watching me with a sniper. I either 1) get stuck way to high or 2)cant get into the box barrier area after dismounting/remounting . might be doing something wrong...
I don't understand what you mean by getting stuck too high. There is no "too high" until it's outside of true ceiling, and I don't even know if it'd let you teleport if it's reached there. Just drop more. Unless you mean it's getting to far for the observer to be able to sync it? In which case you can lower it. The observer is in complete control of when the resync can start happening by controlling where they look.
Thats sad.... I've been trying to get to galaxy pools myself for a while now, never have anyone to do this version of the glitch with and can't sparrow fly very well. These videos are pretty helpful tho
Gotta go up. It's a bit lower if you go towards the map, but you should be able to hit it close to where you land. Easiest is with grapple and something like strafe lift. You jump towards the end of the grapple and just glide up. If you don't have strand and are on Titan, you can do some z climbing with hoarfrost z.
When you hit a loadzone, generally the load is fast. This is because the game does some of the necessary steps ahead of time once you enter a certain region we call the preload. Generally a long load means that the game either didn't complete the preload steps before hitting the loadzone itself. You can do that by either passing through the preload quickly, or avoiding it altogether by hitting the loadzone from an unusual angle. That's why you have to climb way up out of the way.
Do you gotta be on titan tho Would it even be possible with dawnblade super Edit: also could you just grapple a rocket and get there too if so then it would be possible on all classes
It's not very far, so quite possibly. Plus any class can with Navigator. I'm not sure how the angles work exactly, but I've seen hunters with a sword and blink go pretty far. Really depends on what angle you need to avoid the tractor beam until you're in position.
@@Froggy618157725 appreciate the quick reply I’ll definitely be sure to test Always wanted to go here but I main warlock and as amazing as it is I just couldn’t justify grinding on titan for just this Also could two people make a quatum skimmer Like one after another It would be really cool to take a pic here with my gf Really I’m wondering if we’d need a third or if it’s possible as a duo
You could, although it's easier to just have the second person rejoin at Galaxy Pools I doubt a rocket would go far enough, and rocket grapple horizontally is pretty challenging.
Sword flying? You use catapult lift and Lion Rampant to regain height, and a sword swing to kill downwards momentum while your jump recharges. The strong initial upwards boost of catapult lift lets you stay level as long as you have something like a sword to keep in air longer. Other classes don't have catapult lift, so they don't get the same amount of benefit. Pulling out the ghosts acts as swapping weapons, which activates eager edge. That's just an optimization though.
You can try varying the way you go. If you're within the preload, it will start prepping things. I'd recommend coming from as far left as you can, and ensuring that no one in your fireteam is anywhere near Sludge. It's possible the first time you do it it might be a tad longer. But the long load is usually more about coming from a weird angle than computer/network speed. I've got a fiber connection and don't see trouble with it unless I'm a bit too far right. I believe most of that delay is hooking you up with the a bubble server, which would normally happen in the preload, but if you skip that it has to do that search after you hit the load.
I’ve found getting to the tree area and backing up till you see the turn back gets to 1 then summoning the skimmer and boosting hits it more frequently
The way ive gotten it to work consistently is to lower my FPS to 30, and have my friend leave the fireteam until i get it. it works 1 out of 3 attempts this way, the other 2 being timing issues lol
Hey froggy, have been trying this for a day or 2 and Im having trouble syncing with the skimmer and when I do im either to high or to low. What am I messing up with syncing up my skimmer and how do I know Im at the right height to try and sink out of the up box?
What do you mean by being too high? If you manage to sync to it it's not too high. Unless you mean it's going directly into true edge. You can use the size on screen to sorta judge how far up you are. You can also figure about the time it takes to jump that high. I have that part of the video at normal speed so you can get that timing, although the apparent size will vary with fov settings.
@@Froggy618157725 I didnt know if that part of the video was cut up or not, ty I'll count how many times you jumped and go from there. You're a legend froggy
@@Froggy618157725 Thank you for the help! I made it to the pools this afternoon thanks to youre help. Youre a legend and I never thought Id see the pools with my own eyes.
I'm trying to do the glitch right now and i'm having a problem. When i dismount and try to remount i don't get teleported to the sky. What could i or the observer be doing wrong?
Does the vehicle go without you? Do you complete the circle before it goes? If you're completing the circle and don't teleport, it's a line of sight issue. If it's teleporting before you have the chance to get on, you could have the observer lower their frame rate, use a lower zoom gun, or look away while you dismount.
@@Froggy618157725 My exact issue is that the skimmer just doesn't teleport at all, and the observer is playing on console so lowering frame rate is not an option
@@Froggy618157725 The skimmer just doesn't teleport at all, and the observer is on console so lowering FPS isn't an option, but i can increase or lower mine if needed
In that case, it may help to be zoomed in on the skimmer in the sky with a sniper. It will never move while you're still riding it, so if it's not going, you may want to delay getting on slightly. If you wait too long it'll go without you. If you're jumping up too high before going for it, it may leave the range that the observer can act as an observer for it.
Ok so basically listen, i have a ps4 and my main console is a ps5 I’ll do the quantum skimemr on the pa5 and watch myself with my ps4 to navigate the route solo will it work ?. Edit, I’ll borrow a tv or something for my ps4
If the one jumping is not 30 fps that'll probably work, although you may need to look away as the observer for the remount since you'll have a pretty good connection presumably.
Me and my brother are doing this and are struggling with the mounting part, it keeps destroying our sparrow, any tips for that part? Should the observer be at a specific fps?
Rhythm was setting to like 45. Do you mean the vehicle is landing back down and exploding? You can have the observer look away when you get off and look back when you get on, but that can be rough to time.
@@Froggy618157725 yeah we figured that part out, appreciate the advice. It just seems to either tp too fast or I’ll get on and won’t go anywhere and I have to wait for it to fall to try again.
I did ALOT of testing, if the skimmer goes tooo high it will not tp (i think the skimmer becomes out of the physics render distance of the observer and it just dosnt work) i think your talking about the skimmer teleport??
No idea but I’d like to imagine dawnblade could Or maybe grapple a rocket but idk if either actually works But with how easy this is it should also be easy to test
@@Froggy618157725 Cool, I main Warlock so I was hoping to use that character. What sort of tech would be required? Heat rises, starfire, eager edge? I also know how to lumina fly but I've never started it in the air before.
Dawnblade, heat rises, eager edge possibly. Super covers a fair bit of ground, and you can use heat rises and eager edge to cover a fair bit more, and then aim down scope to hover with Sacred Dawn while waiting for Icarus dashes to refresh, comboed with eager wings. If you drop in the right place, you can drop right into the tractor beam/loadzone.
I've got some practice with it. Often times if a route goes too smoothly, I'll try it a few more times to mess things up a bit so I can figure out the common pitfalls. I'm glad you found such a convenient Quantum spot. I was initially afraid we'd need to transfer a Quantum through several zones.
Probably a stupid question but I'm new to this whole your reality vs your team mates. How do you know where you are / when to jump in the waterfall when on your screen you just boost while stationary? Do you need to "steer" or does the onlooker just move you forward in the right direction by looking at your copy?
@@mythe6669 so where you look and boost corresponds to your desynced position generally speaking someone will share there screen with the other person so they can see where they are going.
One of my best friends and i have been trying to get in there, shes a d1 beta player amd I'm her onlh seasoned oob player friend and we are trying to get there but its not going well, cant get quantum vehicles to work, and she cant sparrow or titan fly
@@Froggy618157725 as in to help or what we're struggling with? Because I'm struggling getting the right timing for a quantum sparrow, she got it by lick but she can't do any flight, she struggles trying to hotswap, just can't time her jumping correctly.
With what you're struggling with. I'm not within 100 miles of my PC at the moment. Got a good view of the eclipse though :) I assume you mean skimmer, cause a Quantum Sparrow would just make it harder... What hot swapping are you doing? It's close enough that normal sword flying should work. I was doing the double eager swap stuff because I thought it was going to be much further than it was. If you're talking sword flying in general, I'd recommend practicing elsewhere first to get a feel for it. Cistern is a decent place, with several platforms at the same height with a good gap between them. It gives you a good way to tell if you're keeping height.
@@Froggy618157725 I meant the hot swapping as a reference, she's not good at timing her jumps, always falling from the sky, and I can't get the skimmer quantum consistently enough to use it when I need it. I've got a PC and I've tried to do it there too. I can sword fly consistently and she's more easily able to quantum but we can't get them timed just right. I've taken her to practice sword flying over and over again but she can't get it
The main thing with sword flying is that it's all about catapult lift. All the sword does is keep you in the air longer. You want to use only enough jump to get a bit higher, then swing as you're starting to fall to cancel that momentum and buy more time. You're not swinging at the height of your jump, but on the way down. You should feel the full catapult boost. If you don't, you didn't recharge enough. I'm planning to make a big sword flying guide soon, but probably won't have it for a week or two. I do go over it a bit in this old guide though: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u81UgKyRiQE.html
Yeah, with navigator. Otherwise maybe? I'm not super knowledgeable on skate sorta stuff, but you might be able to reach the pull from skating off the skimmer up top, but accuracy would be an issue.
can this be done on a hunter without navigator flying? i’ve only seen hunters use navigator or titans use infinite sword flying (or anyone just slipstreaming)
Dunno. I'm not on Hunter often. I've seen them cover a good deal of distance with skating, blink, and eager edge. You can land on the Quantum Skimmer if you need to.
okay its not letting me reply at all, at least on my end, the first one I glitched with was on console and used whisper which shows 40zoom 2nd is on pc with a generic 40zoom purple, and it feels impossible to sync back to the skimmer. would higher or lower be better for zoom?
Yeah. We used to do that for Quantum Sparrow teleports so we wouldn't need to set it up again if it tped too early. It just happens to generally with the observer always looking.
You actually have control of when the teleport can start to happen. If it happens to quickly, you can have the observer look away when you get off, and look back when you're getting back on. Often times that isn't necessary due to how the timing works out. Alternatively you could try a lower zoom sniper, or no zoom. If the observer isn't looking, you shouldn't get an update. If you're staring at the skimmer, it may stop the update as well.
