Destiny 2 - Phantom's Thoughts on the State of Titans 

Titan main. I gotta say, i use much more grenade on my titan builds than anything else. HOIL can make any class grenade happy. The only one i guaranteed use melee is Solar bonk. Even then theres options though The build flexibility is huge with titan. My biggest problem is in the supers. All melee focused, and barring t crash all lacking fire/forget damage potential. On big dps phases you see warlocks that can buff/heal the whole team, hunters than can damage and debuff the target, or just smash with blad barrash/gathering storm. but almost nothing for a titan to do but t crash, IF the boss allows for that play. Not great. Lacking dps phase presence with supers. To much roaming melee.

Was waiting for this!

The issue for void titan is it’s trying to be a support subclass in a game where warlocks exists

10:52 if you really believe behemoth is striker with ice you're using it VERY wrong. fists of havoc is meant to be used with the light attack while Behemoth is about making a ton of crystals and freezing a ton of enemies with the heavy and then shattering them all by either waliing into them or using the melee

You really hit the nail on the head with this one. I approve!

6:00 Titans shouldn't have access by themselves to weakening, the entire problem with arc and solar is that every class has too easy a time using every verb and warlock feels useless because of it

I feel pretty similar to a lot of your sentiments, especially with the titan class being pretty creatively bankrupt. I have found that stasis titan is the subclass that most focuses on combining your abilities in a play loop beyond just throwing abilities when they are off cooldown. I have found that the lack of depth in bot the class and exotics create a balancing issue from both pvp and pve as there isnt enough dials to turns and switches to flick, without sending said item drastically in one direction or the other.

Hello, Behemoth main here. I wanna throw my hat into the ring, especially as one who plays nothing but Behemoth, and has done so since Season of the Lost. Being Behemoth is pure agony. You are incentivized to make and break crystals, freezing and shattering, as you benefit the most from that. There is a element of set-up + pay-off that you need to work around, and all the other subclasses get their shit immediately. The ice makes for amazing cover, far more durable than even a Titan barricade due to the health of each individual crystal and the fact they are individual crystals as opposed to a slab of light. The melee is more useful as a mobility tool than anything damage worthy, but it does instantly shatter things so it helps sometimes. I've done all kinds of things with Behemoth; focused on Melee, focused on Grenades. I focused on making as many Ice Crystals as possible, I focused on Slowing and Freezing. To me, I could bend and twist Behemoth into a class I'd enjoy playing as. Sure, it was weaker than the others, but it rewarded exploration and understanding. By focusing and tweaking Behemoth, my own peers think that Behemoth is a very strong Titan subclass. I provide free melee energy for days, I provide the mightiest forms of cover and protection, I froze and shattered all that stood in my way, my own weapon DPS was comparable to Hunters. In short, despite Behemoth's crippling shortcomings, I could still stand with everyone else. I can be an equal. But now, with the nerf to Rime, Behemoth doesn't even have a chance. Every other Titan subclass has access to self buffs that help them survive. Void can shit out overshields for years, Solar can heal themselves fast and easy, Arc can heal themselves by just making more melee attacks, and Strand can get high DR easily. Behemoth, though, only had the healing power of Whisper of Rime and the Whisper of Chains DR to protect themselves. To keep themselves alive during the harder content. Now Rime has been nerfed to work exactly like Void Overshield, and you know what the funny part of that is? Rime's strength was never the Overshield. Overshields aren't good unless you are talking Heir Apparent. Rime's ability to "heal first, give overshield second" was what made it great. Specifically the part where it healed you in bursts. That was cool. That was unique. But now the healing is abysmal. Maybe the other Stasis classes can handle themselves, but not Titan. Not with how it currently is focused. And considering the nerf to Rime, I don't even know if Bungie will actually change Stasis. They might keep it as it is for years. I hope not, but I do not trust Bungie anymore, man. I just don't. For the meantime, I'm just gonna play other stuff. DRG's been good.

Stasis titan is really good imo

Yeah I agree. Solar bonk titan is immortal because to get rid of it they’d have to nurf what is essentially all of the titan exotics.

I just want Bungie to give titans more 1 off shut down supers ... thunder crash and bubble are the only supers we have that are not roaming supers that do the same thing

Really good video, has kind of summed up my thoughts with the class too.

10:20 the titan stasis melee is meant to be used to SHATTER enemies and crystals not direct hit

16:35 this is just misleading you know VERY well why a strand flamethrower wouldn't work and this entire video just comes off as you not understanding titan

I'm gonna come in very early and say I HEAVILY disagree on the melee point. titans are more focused on grenades than warlocks people just don't use them because for some reason people suck at building titans within a subclass.