Destiny 2 - The Struggles of Being a Solo Player 

Due to demand, here is a link to my new Discord, primarily focused on helping find groups in Destiny 2! It will be a bit of a work-in-progress over the next few weeks, but I hope those interested can find it helpful. discord.gg/eUHVTpBasj

This game genuinely is so lonely and hard when you don’t have friends to play with that are as patient or committed as you. I’ve never even been able to finish a single raid since destiny 1

I have always been a solo player in Destiny. Every now and then, one of the four friends I have that continuously play the game will join me, but most of the time I'm hopping into a game by myself and a few randoms.

I feel this pain. I have felt it since D1. Imagine actually being in a clan but in order to get help, be taught raids or dungeons you have to show up when they're streaming only. Which of course is sometimes difficult because of my work schedule. It kinda sucks. Being an old fella (52), it's makes even more difficult. No one wants to teach an old man how to play a video game. But I keep playing because I love the game. I suck at it, but I love it. Lol!

To any solo players, I would absolutely recommend trying to solo Dungeons. They’re intended to be beaten solo! Usually, you get some cool emblems for doing so, along with the loot.

Being a solo player throughout the 8 years of destiny, I may not have done a raid, but I enjoy doing side quests and triumphs I can do :)

I miss my old raid team, it’s been a struggle trying to find people who are willing to stick around for any activity. Life happens I know, but I miss the good old days where we would run nightfalls or do our own challenge run for a raid.

As a lone wolf I've embraced most of my time adventuring solely, taking in the experiences of D2 at my own pace. That said, the time I spent with my old fireteam back in D1 is unforgettable, and I believe that is how Destiny should be played at its core. Hopefully I'll come across the right group of guardians during Witch Queen.

Had a similar experience, roommate got me into his Destiny 1 group around the dark below release. We did all the endgame content in D1, was a good run, people had differences and we moved on from that group. My roommate was more out going than me, as I was terrified of LFG stuff, and would got me into his raid groups and eventually a new clan. If it wasn't for him, I don't think I'd even be playing Destiny 2, and probably wouldnt have bought the expansions in Destiny 1. Now that we've both moved out, and onto other things in life I think back to those D1 and early D2 days where we would be grinding out endgame content and secrets. He still plays D2 and is quite active, but has since found his own group of hardcore players to do content with and I've sort of fallen away from the game. Other than coming in a few times during a season to hit power and do recent quests, and occasionally still invited for a raid if they need a 6th... Even if I get dragged through them lol

When my two friends and I were farming the Leviathan raid we always looked for new players because "experienced" players were too toxic and wanted perfection, we prefered to teach new players than bare the experienced ones

Man, this hurts. I see how all of you feel. I still pick up "tower randos" for nightfalls and raids. I check stats so I get solo players and give them an experience and "their monies worth" out of the game. In D1 I did a lot of Sherpa raids. More than 60% of my raids and such were with "never raiders". D2 people got shunned away more be it on lfg or social media sites for the same reasons as mentioned. I still Sherpa and would help all of you, in a heartbeat.

For me, I’m a quite person, I don’t talk much so joining random people to do raids and grandmasters is always nerve racking

I didn't try raids yet but I was positively surprised how easy you can find players via the App. Especially when you write that you need someone to help you through a dungeon! Everyone was very supportive!

The quote that speaks to me about being a solo destiny 2 player Hawthorne: Insecure men tend to surround themselves with others like them. Ghost: Cayde? Anything to add? Cayde-6: Nope, she’s totally right. Which is why I work alone. My new motto of life

I remember back in D1 I started helping people do wrath of the machine since I’d gotten so used to doing it almost everyday for fun. I ended up stumbling on an lfg team that were really inexperienced in end game activities, we got nearing the end of the raid but we just couldn’t defeat Aksis. Now keep in mind that I was one of two who were teaching four others on how to do the raid. It was nearing one in the morning and I was tired and didn’t feel like playing anymore, I told the team that I’d add them and we’d continue tomorrow afternoon. All of the new players sounded so defeated and one of them was a kid and I could hear in his voice how sad he was because he couldn’t complete it. This was one of the main reasons why I added them so that we could finish it later because it reminded me that I was once in his position and that no one would let me play with them because I didn’t know what to do. I was always that solo player that what just keep coming back even though I could never to any end game activities, so when we finally finished the raid the next day it brought me so much joy hearing all of them after completing their first raid.

the problem for me as a solo player is not being able to do raids and master/gm nightfalls, im paying for that content but will never be able to play it, everyone constantly says "just go to lfg and find a group to play with" and while yeah it is basically the only thing im able to do its not like its that simple or even practical. you are constantly dependent on your entire team fully knowing what to do and then join their discord and pray everyone has a mic and that they won't kick you out or leave.. its just a terrible experience and while i don't really have a solution myself im sure others do and bungie SHOULD listen to them and not just raids but every part of this game bungie should listen to people's ideas to fix the major problems this game has. i fully agree that the best gear and weapons should be locked behind the most difficult content but not making half of the playerbase unable to obtain them just because they don't have people to with.

When destiny 2 came out I was in a weird stage of my life where I was petrified of getting on the mic with people. Like you I was really into D2, following posts online, reddit, yt. But I couldn't complete the leviathan raid at the time, which was a huge deal and a huge bummer. I started playing D2 again last week and I'm getting my light level up to start raiding with a mate of mine and some randoms, I have the confidence to jump on disc now and have a laugh ❤️

it does get lonely sometimes but when you have a whole solar system to yourself to explore, something about it is calming

Played and beat Garden of Salvation for the first time with help from a guy I met LFG. It took us over 7 hours to beat. He patiently explained every encounter and tolerated our “noob” causing team wipes. I can’t explain it, but by the time we finally finished the raid we had become friends.

I felt so relieved when I finished watching the video because, I finally found someone who understands how the solo player feels. Sometimes I felt so ignored because people say that I'm not trying at all to play with others, but for someone who has severe social anxiety and language barrier(English is not my native language.), it's not an option. I don't want to complain too much but I hope the game developers and the community can understand a little more that there are many kinds of people playing this game. Thank you for making the video.

The proudest achievement of mine is helping people through leviathan. I found my destiny teammates through doing this. I’d done Levi probably a dozen times before trying to take people through it, I wanted to help, to teach people. On my first raid run through teaching it took me and my team 6 hours to teach 2 players (2 of my team didn’t know what to do either) and it was the most fun I’d had playing during that season. I got the Levi dog challenge emblem and haven’t taken it off since because it reminds me of the summer of 2020. I ended up helping 29 players complete the leviathan raid for the first time, and whilst it’s relatively small, I know that I helped free to play players, players with no mic, players who didn’t even know what a raid was complete it, and for that I’m proud of. I’ve helped people discover the best side of this game and I hope that I can do this in light fall again.

I've been playing destiny since the beta and almost all of my time has been solo. Any time I tried to join a clan it's usually a bunch of elitists. But the game is kinda peaceful when you navigate thought the entire universe by yourself

I totally agree with everything you said. I have over 1000 hours in the game with 1 raid clear. A lot of it for me is anxiety. I feel like I can hold my own in the game. But never want to be the one on the team holding everyone back. Therefore i play alone. Its nice to play alone sometimes but wish i had a core group that i could game with as well.

This is exactly why I sherpa. I've had a number of negative experiences being taught a raid, or trying to find someone to actually teach me. I don't want other people to have to go through that kind of garbage, so I try to teach raids as often as I can. Some people get such inflated egos over their accomplishments in this game. It's one thing to be proud of yourself; it's another thing to be a jerk about it. I love this game, and I want other people to love this game, too. I sherpa because I want the community to be a good one, not just to get some emblem (no offense). I love giving people a reason to love this game.

I have almost never felt lonelier and more isolated in a game than in Destiny 2. I was so excited for its release on PC, but I struggled more and more over time to actually get any friends onboard to play it with me. Strangers in the overworld were antisocial and unresponsive to chat 100% of the time (I have never, literally never, been responded to in chat outside of the Tower, and even in the Tower it's almost impossible), so making friends out in the wilds was virtually impossible, forcing me to rely on the friends I didn't have. I wanted to share the experience, with friends. I didn't want to be alone. LFG was a minefield and I also didn't want to just play with strangers. In 2019, the first time I ever got enough friends together and attempted to do a raid, I was already having a bad day, and as the only person without experience in it I became aggravated by the others dragging me around without explanation and eventually just left out of frustration. All but one of them ended the friendship. In 2020 I made friends with someone I added from the tower and she invited me to her clan, and I thought I would finally have people to do things with. But almost everyone in there were brash diehard endgame players with no interest in playing with me, and when they heard me in server voice chat criticizing design elements of the game, I was banned from the server and my friend blocked me without saying anything. After that I spent the next year playing it alone, less and less, feeling absolutely no joy or fulfillment in the experience, until eventually I stopped playing completely last year. I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I don't intend to go back. I wish Bungie made a bigger effort to promote socializing in the game, and I wish the players were more social. Thank you for reading my sob story, and sorry that you read my sob story. I am heavily depressed. I miss my friends

I played WOW for 10 + years and raided once. The others were rude and unwilling to teach how to do what needed to be done. So I never did it again. Same with Destiny, and D2. I finally raided for the first time last year because i had found friends who were patient and willing to teach. Most people never find someone like that, and after a while there is not much else to do if you can't do this endgame content.

I can’t believe I found this video that resonated with me so much just by searching Destiny 2. I’ve never had a consistent group to play raids with so I’m mostly a solo player, so much so that I commonly run strikes alone if LFG or matchmaking fails. I’m also a PS player and they just got rid of PS Communities which was my main and consistent avenue for D1 LFGs. This was a great video my guy. Easy sub right there. Keep it up.

I like to play mostly solo actually. The game is beautiful and immersive. And when you play with others you have to keep the up with rhythm and always pushing forward. Which is fun of course, but sometimes it feels really cool to stop and just look and listen to the environment. The scenarios and sound design are really great.

5:04 This is so true- I started playing D2 around 2019, and I absolutely enjoyed it. I played until Beyond Light was released for one simple reason, I didn't have anyone to play with. I was mostly solo and doing LFGs, but it's kinda' not that fun to do LFGs since most people are toxic and would immediately boot you for a single mistake. Games are meant to be played for fun, it'd be cooler if I had a group of friends who also play Destiny so we can just chill and joke around while doing activities instead of try harding every time.

Solo players have dungeons for “endgame” activities. And I enjoy them. Yeah raids aren’t nice as a solo player. But Esoterickk taught me a lot.

I remember when i was a newbie and just got in clan, they let me join the raid(leviathan) then this vet player said at the end of raid "i am getting headache" i felt the guilt and never have i joined another raid after and left the clan

I love helping new people but I wish more of them would at least look up a raid guide before expecting sherpas to donate their time to teach them. Still, I wish there were more systems to enable veteran players to help out new lights

I often play solo due to social anxiety and the possibility of being ridiculed for being new/slipping up, but I recently joined a really relaxed discord server, and despite me saying that I'm new, a few still offered to guide me through some dungeons and raids! I still plan on getting my light level up and sorting out mods before jumping in but it's really reassuring to know there's others happy to help, it's really all about breaking out your comfort zone and looking in the right places! lol sorry for the ramble

I stopped playing the game 5 months ago after 4 years of loving it, because I've always been alone and I felt rlly lonely because of that. So, because none my friends liked it , it's always been a solo experience for me.

This is the best video I've seen on topics about destiny in a long while, most streamers seem to think everything is easy because it is for them and they have clans to get things done with, I am so glad you have brought up this topic as nobody else has, its very frustrating watching all these streamers saying how good this gun is or that exotic is when you know you can't get it due to having either no friends on destiny or people demanding you have to KWTD or what loadouts you must use, I've been suffering with severe Depression for the last 2 yrs and find it hard to speak to complete strangers off the bat trying to do hard content so I don't even try anymore, I know there's lots of destiny players out there in similar circumstances as mine and its a shame we loose out with this great game, I spent months getting 1 chest every reset day solo in a raid getting spoils because I wanted the anarchy so much and just after I got it bungie nerfed it.....got quite a few exotic quests still not completed because there too hard as a solo player, Anyway thankyou so much for bringing up this I've given it a thunbs up and I will subscribe as you are the 1st streamer I've seen you really cares about the destiny community !

It’s nice to see that someone is talking about the solo player experience. Thanks man.

I felt this video so much as a destiny solo player. I would love to do raids and end game content like grand masters, trials or dungeons, but I really have a hard time learning mechanics, most likely in raids, even if I have been playing the game for years. People doesnt have the patience to explain again if I didnt understood it the first times, they get angry or tilted until we finish the raid, and thats not the experiences that I want to have in the game. I want to have fun and enjoy doing end game content. Destiny community really need to be more empathic with the people because we dont know how hard can it be for them, nobody is born knowing and we were all the ones who did not know how to do things at some point of our time playing. Lfg is fine sometimes, it helped me for some end game content, but find a group that doesnt have the "kwtd" for end game content is kinda hard sometimes, and if it doesnt say it u can join and risk it to being judged or to have disrespectful things said to you by those who takes the game like to life or death. Being a solo player isnt bad, I enjoy it, but sometimes is very sad honestly.

this is literally perfect and exactly what I've needed as a long time solo destiny player. thank you from a brand new subscriber

I started out with a team when I was brand new, they pushed me out and since then I got dedicated to getting really good my solo journey helped me improve and I stopped relying on others.

I felt this in my soul, always been a destiny solo player. I got the chance to run the kings fall raid when that came out but the group ended up bailing half way through because another guy had to leave so I didn’t even get to finish it haha that was my only raid experience in all of destiny. I’ve tried to match with random groups but they all require you to be fully geared and know every inch of the raid or they’ll kick you. It’s unfortunate because I love the game, the lore, the art design, music, everything is just super fun. I just want to find a group of peeps who like me have little raid experience and are down to just throw themselves at the raids and figure it out organically like it’s day one and we’re going for a worlds first lol is that to much to ask haha

Thanks for putting this out.. I’m a day one player and in the beginning was extremely lucky enough to get with a group of great guys so I got to do vault of glass and leviathan but got burnt out due to lack of content at the time but have recently got completely into it once again but find myself alone and desperately wanting that raid experience once again and it’s not very easy to find that great group of patient players to help you get back into it

The biggest thing that bothers me a lot regarding available content for solo players (yes I'm a solo player) is not having matchmaking for dungeons and at least the master nightfalls. I can understand not having it for raids because they do require more coordination, but for the content I mentioned above, they don't require that much.

Excellent video! It really explained the way I feel about a lot of these group aimed exotics. I still hope to one day get Vex mythoclast, fatebringer, and reckless oracle. But I keep procrastinating thanks to my fear of getting my head bitten off by some nerd who hasn't touched grass since 2017.

I joined in season 15 and was solo for a few months. Sure, I had some friends that played but our time to play rarely overlapped and I wanted to try raiding and dungeons. I was lucky enough to find an awesome clan that prides itself on teaching endgame content to anyone and doesn't tolerate KWTD. It's made Destiny a much better game having a consistent group that I generally play with and would highly recommend searching out a friendly clan if you can.

Some of my best memories in destiny was being taught a new raid, it was always amazing finding and actual good squad of reasonable people

I’ve been playing since Destiny 1, occasionally co-oping with my buddy because he’s not a huge fan of the game, and for the first time 2 days ago I actually grouped up with some people and did a raid. Only took 8 years. It was a good group and pretty fun. May do it again within the next 8 years.

I am autistic, and one of the biggest struggles of my life is asking for help. The act of reaching out to strangers is a big struggle. I'm also a casual gamer and the game has reached a point where wanting to play just for the story is a massive commitment where you have to grind to move on to a next step at times. And then there is the increasing removal of content. The game I originally paid for is gone.

Hello. I have been playing since the release of Destiny 1. I was obsessed with Destiny, and made so many memories, even though I played solo most of the time. I understand that some people view the story of Destiny as lackluster, but it really intrigued me when I was younger. Even now I’m curious to see how the story will continue to move forward. Eventually in D1, I grew the interest to attempt the raids, and resorted to LFG. It wasn’t the best experience. You’d run into people yelling into their mics at players who mess up on a certain segment, and other unpleasant things. Of course, I eventually completed every raid in D1, because I met some pretty chill raid fireteams along the way, out of pure luck. Onward to D2 a couple years later, and I was excited to experience the game’s story and lore once again. I went to see what LFG would be like for people trying to do raids like the Leviathan Raid or Deep Stone, but only ever came across people expecting you to have either cleared the raid beforehand, or know every portion of it. I’m always open to learning, but I’ve experienced being kicked mid-raid so someone more well-versed in what to do could replace me. After that, I’ve kind of just been straying away from raids and stuck to story-related content, holiday content, and other activities you can do solo. I’ve tries getting friends to play D2 with me of course, but they’re hooked to other games or can’t be bothered. It’s pretty tough.

I'll admit it gets really lonely when you're the only one of your friends who actively plays the game while they constantly trash talk it and play other games. Even so, I'm not deterred and will most likely be jumping into the witch queen solo this coming tuesday. Keep on keepin' on my fellow lone wolves.

I recently came back to Destiny after a 2 year break. Fell right back in love with it and have been enjoying the new expansion. The community for the most part is still very much how I remember it, people who think they are superior to all and are too good to help anyone. The only thing I want that I would want help with is getting the Ghorn. Yet a month later I still get kicked or ignored. Going solo can only make it to the Ogre. Back in D1 the community was awesome. I was a solo player and I could do everything. Post on the old Bungie forums "400 titan, looking to join fresh Vog with challenge" and get many invites and the team would be solid. Yet once D2 came around and everything became clan focused...it went downhill. The truth is, almost all activities should have matchmaking with the exception of raids because of the mechanics that are involved so communication is key. I still love this game but yeah, it does kinda stink when you roll solo.

Timbo, I'm glad you did this video - its one topic that often gets crapped on by the community because there's a million solutions to this that I just think are all still inconvenient. I've been playing the last 8 years and rarely do any non-matchmade activities. I work all day with people, in meetings, in conference and zoom calls. I want to unwind at night - not be held hostage in my living room by a group of people on LFG just to complete a raid. Moreover, the older you get the more weird it feels being in a voice chat with minors - someone else's kid. Nor do i want to spent my precious free time shopping around for 5 other normal people. you hit the nail on the head - its expensive because the best content becomes inaccessible. Other big MMO's realized this years ago and implemented strategies for matchmaking. Bungie could wait till the season is over, raise the power cap but not have the Raid scale up for matchmaking. They could introduce the hard mode with adept gear, and an easy matchmaking mode that has instructions in the UI for mechanics. They could chop the raids into strikes and make playlists. Regardless, they're losing players because of this. And as you know, once you put this game down for too long - its really hard to want to go back. As final example - it took me over a year to get 2 other competent people to beat whisper of the worm. everyone should experience that activity - but the fact is, no matter how much the power level increased, bungie designs power scaling so that its always the same difficulty - that you'll never feel the reward from patience and level increases to be able to solo it with modest difficulty.

I've always gamed solo apart from the occasional time one of my friends hoped on. I learned to love gaming solo, much more relaxing and at my own pace. I honestly prefer it. but sometimes I do wish i had a good gaming group to rely on when my social battery is charged up. I want to tackle end game things but I'm WAY too nervous to hop on LFG and talk to randoms. For some reason speaking on the voice chat has always been daunting to me. I guess it's the bad expirence i've had on mics lol. definitely an introvert :P

When lfg works out its brilliant, we done garden of salvation for divinity. We had 5 with 1 who previously done it. Used lfg and put only 1 knows what to do and we got an absolute legend with over 600 carries. The most chilled dude who literally told each player exactly what and when to do something. Made it so easy for us.

I have to agree with the “kwtd” thing. I like to think of myself as a solo player, i have 2 irl friends that play but both of them have that overbearing “god complex” thing. I finds raids generally stressful and don’t do them because of all the randoms and not wanting to mess up for the other people. There have been a few times when I’ve found someone and they’ve been really chill, i had a dude tech me the last section of vog and he was really chill about it and really helped, and one of the people i did goa with when it came out was so nice and patient as we did our first run.

Honestly, you nailed exactly why I quit D2 after playing from launch to Beyond Light. Just the sea of KWTD posts and the lack of people willing to help someone who had no support structure to fall back on - an empty friends list and no clan. I wasn't expecting to suddenly jump in and get a regular nightfall or raid team. I wasn't looking to grind out for an exotic or a particular shader. I just wanted to get the experience, pick up on the lore, and see something new, rather than running the same content over and over and over again. I played Destiny for Bungie's worldbuilding. But finally I got the message: Bungie wasn't really interested in building content for solo players. Outside of the campaign, they assume everyone has friends or a clan or a community that they can get people to play with, and that was why I would get utterly frustrated with the game to the point of having to walk away. Because they're not wrong about the majority of their player base, it's just that those of us on the outside of their expectations get ignored outside of expansion releases.

Thank you. In Destiny 1 solo-ed almost all of the game and it wasn't by choice. It was difficult making friends and so many events didn't have matchmaking (Trials of Osiris, Raids, Vault of Glass etc.) It made me feel that I couldn't fully participate in the more important events. Missing out on great gear hurts when you can't even try.

I’ve been playing without really a consistent friend group ever since D1’s beta. It’s a little sad, but I’ve only done Crota and VoG. No one has ever taken the patience to help teach me other raids. People were always impatient and would get angry with me because some of the mechanics just didn’t click in my brain. So i just avoided it altogether.

Really appreciate this video. As someone who has been in all these situations, going from having a group of nearly 12 people to only one or two friends who play the game currently. I've been on both sides of lfg, making people kwtd and being told kwtd, and teaching people how to raid or being taught myself. This game has one of the best communities I've ever been a part of. It also has one of the worst. I think the main way to help solo players is to help them join a community server or clan and be welcoming. I recently joined one myself just to do raids whenever and it's super liberating. Most of the people are chill, sometimes encounters can take a while but mostly go by pretty smoothly. Most of the good players in these servers (at least the one I'm most active in) are super chill and have done everything so much that one of the only things they can still do is to teach! If anyone is apprehensive about raiding or wants to find a group these servers actually work and help. It's at least better than something like lfg through xbox/playstation.

This has been literally my experience. I only got to do Kings Fall raid and nothing else. I have played Destiny since right before the Taken King launched and always play solo. Would love to do the raids, dungeons and all of the exotic activities that require a fireteam, but don’t really want to go through getting kicked out for being a noob at those activities. So on I go still invested in the game for the story elements, but knowing there is so much of the game I will not get to do.

Thanks T, nice encapsulation of the solo player experience and the struggles of trying to fit into a group of complete strangers in hopes of advancing your skills and achieving greater rewards and experiencing new and more interesting content. Often solo players (perhaps all players) have a time budget. I’m retired, so this isn’t me, but between school, work, and other irl social obligations it’s a tough balance. Nobody has time to deal with trolls, toxicity, or impatient attitudes. In my experience (3 years of daily play) these are all pervasive in the community. Destiny 2 has a diverse community and high ideals but low adherence and limited enforcement. It’s a struggle. For now I’m content to continue as a solo player until that fateful day that I stumble into a group of unicorns who truly love the game and prioritize patience, understanding, and a sincere desire for cooperation and camaraderie over dominance and gamesmanship.

I've been obsessed with Vault of Glass lately, and I just recently discovered the Garden of Salvation raid was a thing. Then you realize you can't solo those raids, but you want the loot so badly. Raid loot is the most incessant struggle for soloist like me.

I've had a lot of bad experiences with LFG, I haven't done a raid in over a year now. I can't really say I miss raiding too much, but I do miss just messing about with people, this game is great with friends but it's a slog on your own.

One of my favourite things to do in d2 is looking for newer players and guiding them through raids, dungeons etc. It's normally gonna take way longer but it's super rewarding.

I'm also in the same boat. Friends pretty much beg and constantly ask me when I'm coming back to play but when I do, they never want to do any of the stuff I'd like to do like certain dungeons, raids, etc. So I'm having to play alone 99% of the time.

Reading the comments in this chat made me smile. I haven't played destiny in a couple of years but its great to see people in the community helping each other out. I feel the pain since I used to have some friends who raided with me but they ended up leaving me out because one of them didn't like me. Had to use LFG and it wasn't easy at all.

I’ve been a solo player for the longest time. I used an app to find my first raid team to fight Crota and they were the best bunch of guys I’ve met. Unfortunately we didn’t stay in contact and we never played together again. Every other raid I joined was toxic and frustrating, it took the fun out of the game. Now I’m primarily solo, trying to get my friends to play the game with me.

I’ve been on and off solo from the beginning of taken king. Raids are hard to do as a new player. It gets easier but I agree that there should be a safer place for people to Learn. A discord for those people would be an excellent idea

Im an introvert who hates large groups, or very talkative people and I started out as a solo player. However, 4 years ago I made a friend in the Tower because we both had anime names and we talked for hours about anime and have been playing every week together since. We talk to each other daily and he’s become one of my best friends and I’m so grateful that we met. Having him to play with have made playing destiny 1000x better! Edit: I love you my titan brother!

I can honestly say that this video resonated with me because like what Timbo said, we were all new once. I’ve been playing Destiny since the Alpha on PlayStation and I’ve been hooked ever since! I started out solo and met a Guardian on a random patrol and we became friends to this very day! (he no longer plays the game though) I heard about Vault Of Glass and I decided to try my luck with LFG. I’m so glad I did because I met a few other Guardians that I still play with! We formed a small clan of our own and did all activities together. During the time of House Of Wolves, I don’t know what it was (either the game became stagnant with the repetitiveness) but I wanted more. I became obsessed with all the challenges that Destiny had to offer and it came at the expense of me leaving the clan for another group. (I still regret this decision to this day) The new group was great at first; we were making jokes and having fun with the game but over time, I started to notice one of them became very controlling being passive-aggressive. I didn’t want to be a part of it anymore because it turned me into a person I didn’t like so I left. I became a solo player when D2 started and doing activities through LFG (some good, other times painfully bad). I believe it was the Warmind expansion when one of my friends from the first clan reached out to me about forming a clan of our own again (he was in a different clan at the time). I didn’t want to mess it up this time because, to me, it felt like I got a second chance. So he and I would randomly do LFG’s together recruiting other Guardians who are chill and willing to teach. We’ve since transitioned over to PC and have a group that do activities with. As of right now, it’s a bit quiet because we’re eagerly anticipating for the launch of The Witch Queen but I’m always willing to teach other Guardians on how to do the raids along with others in our group

For solo players who DON'T want to play solo, here's some tips to help you out. Believe it or not, you don't need to have the best gear in the game to make friends. You don't need a snazzy gamertag or fancy emotes either. The one thing you need is a MIC. You can play destiny with a mic ofc but that's gonna limit you on many things. Once you have a mic, there's two things you can do now. You can use LFG or you can try friending random people. (many people randomly add me and I'm almost always happy to help) You just gotta put yourself out there, don't be shy. People don't really know that you need friends or help if you don't ask. Another thing that will help is looking for a clan or someone who is in a clan. Not only will being in a clan give you more people to talk to and play with, you'll also get extra loot if the clan IF the clan is active. Last thing is raids. If you need to be taught how to do a raid, that's fine however you can't expect everyone to have patience to teach. That's why you gotta put a post on LFG saying you need to learn so you won't have to worry about being kicked or ask friends or clan members (another reason to work on what I said above) so you can get the info and loot you need. Speaking of loot!! That's one last thing. Like I said, you don't need to have the best gear ever but at least know what weapons are good in general. There's people who are willing to help you but sometimes you gotta pull your weight and not use double primaries in a raid. Sometimes you gotta equip a rocket or linear fusion rifle instead of a sword. If you don't know what to use, there are videos letting you know what the meta is or you could just ASK your fire team. Congratulations if you read this entire comment. This is the patience you'll need to learn/teach raids lol but fr, I hope this helps anyone who is looking for additional advice on the subject. Good luck out there guardians!

I honestly just wish I had someone to hang with on D2 I quit playing bc of how lonely it is as a solo and being told I couldn’t join clans/ groups was really discouraging I mean I’m not really new to the game but I still got questions idk thanks for the vid I subbed

I remember the first time I completed King's Fall in D1, first time I finished a raid too. I was lucky enough to get in with a team who were experienced and happy to teach me. The feeling of accomplishment when we beat it made for one of my most memorable gaming moments ever.

As a long time solo player of D2 its nice to be recognised as such. I joined a raid shortly after D2 came out I was put off by the abuse I received so now stick to solo quest or Vanguard.I appreciate you going to the trouble of thinking of solo players. I will look in on the discord. Thanks regards

I wish that this game have some options for introverts, the reason I can play this game is because I know someone IRL who played it. The game is fun if you're social person but not that much for a loner.

If any solo players want to get into raiding then start with VoG all the mechanics are pretty easy and quick to pick up

As a new player, (1 Month) the only reason I was able to get into this game was because someone guided me through everything and answered my questions for weeks. He taught me everything from lore (which is greatly missing in minor details inside the game) to mechanics (some even veterans don't know like how to gain power fast w/o cheesing the system). I fell in love with Destiny, however I'm currently feeling the pain of being a solo player atm. I want to do raids/dungeons, but there is no matchmaking. Additionally, I feel like I'm expected to "Learn" the raid/dungeon before doing them which is completely counterintuitive. The entire purpose of a game is to experience a game. Why would you need to learn about a section of a game when the whole point of a game is to experience it first hand WITHOUT spoilers! That would be like saying "In order for you to join this movie club to watch "XYZ" movie you have to know how the movie ends, the plot , and why certain characters do certain things BEFORE you watch the movie". THEN WHY WATCH THE MOVIE? Does that make any sense?? The game raids/dungeons are developed in a catch-22 system. They're trying to get new players to experience raids/dungeons but in order to experience it you need to know it before hand. Additionally you need a group of people that know it. The idea of getting new players involved is great, the high expectations for new players and accessibility is not. How can they solve this so more people stay? It is hard enough to into this game without a tutor. It makes it even harder that you need to learn additional things in order to play content that is considered to be so fundamental to what Destiny 2 is.

Needed to hear this lmao...Was sittin just staring at the beta guided raid contemplating whether or not to do it😂😂Def got the equiptment/power to do so but still haven't attempted a raid

As someone who has been lfging for 7 years I've been on both side of just wanting a fast clean run and also going out of my way to help people learn the activitie so I very much appreciate this video

Yea it’s been rough not having a group through my entire d2 career, especially since i missed all of the currently vaulted raids because i never had a group. (and was unaware of lfgs at the time) and while i’ve been able to make do with lfg lately, farming dungeons and raids with lfgs can work but they have a almost clinical feeling that you talk about perfectly in the kwtd segment you brought up

This brings back memories. There was one time I was playing and one of my friends invited me to join their Last wish raid, so I joined and found that they were at the Riven boss. I was excited that my first raid was about to be complete but since I could not understand the mechanics and that I kept dying, the team saw me as a liability and kicked me out, same with one of the dungeons. That’s when I decided that endgame gear was out of my reach. So now my gear is just some stuff from the world or game modes.

Solo hunter here, I've been going alone my whole life playing Destiny, and honestly, it gets hard a lot, especially in this new campaign. From my point of view, there are a few things that make the solo experience very hard at times. 1. Not having the right weapons/gear (or not being able to use them all). Compared to the co-op experience, there is a much higher chance of someone having the gear you need to do high amounts of damage or to clear out adds easily, while with solo play you need to have your inventory perfectly sorted out and are able to quickly switch to the weapon you need in the current moment and when in a bad situation.. can sometimes be fatal. Along with the fact you need to actually ACQUIRE the items you need in the first place. 2. Getting overwhelmed easily. I've taken notice of how the ai tends to rush at you during the worst of times, when taking cover you just see that knight round the corner and dome you with that explosive blast. With how fast you can take damage as well, you can tend to give enemies many opportunities to hit you with a lucky or guaranteed hit, and sometimes you die before you can even take down a mini-boss due to having to constantly take cover. 3. Respawning Restricted. The bane of my existence at times, there have been situations before where I've gotten stuck dying over and over due to how challenging a respawning restricted area is. Coupled with a few other reasons stacking up that difficulty, it becomes extremely frustrating and time-consuming to get past a single respawning restricted section. (And yes you could just say "get good" or "get with the meta pleb" but who can say that to an area with minimal cover and enemies with explosive weaponry?) (If there are any problems you occur frequently as a solo player, do say so in the replies!)

I'm pretty much a complete solo player. I really feel this, the god complex from the veterans can be incredible. Thanks so much for the vid and the good vibes.

Some players in this game also seem to forget that every rpg is like this because a lot of Destiny vets first experience with an rpg is Destiny. There’ll always be new players in rpgs that’ll lose hope because these type of games can be overwhelming to new or even returning players. There’ll always be new players that are looking to complete their first cooperative based activity to take their first step to end game content.

I had a friend once. He’s the one who got me in to the game, i started playing Destiny 2 since the very beginning, vanilla D2. Only had one friend, he used to carry me on campaigns and stuff until Forsaken expansion came out, i became a solo player, completed everything by myself except Raids, my friend stopped playing with me in Season 5. I knew him irl, he moved out of town, stopped seeing each other. It’s ait tho, because of him i became a hella player. I accidentally became a Dredgen, didnt even notice i completed tasks, did some dungeons all by myself. These are the seasons i was most active - Season 1 - Season 2 - Season 3 - Season 4 - Season 5 - Season 6 (active ish) - Season 8 - Season 10 - Season 13 - Now Came back in late Season 17 Did alot of things alone, even nightfalls back then when you HAD to invite someone else, they didnt give some random like the Strike, now things have changed.

Solo player experience has always been a challenge for me. I still remember being lvl 28 forever in d1. I had my fun playing crucible and back in the day I enjoyed prison of elders too

I never really played on line coop before Destiny. I jumped from some of the most toxic lfg groups to finally finding a clan. not just any clan- the clan. we always would schedule times to help each other level up and ran the vault of glass and Croata's end. not only ran them but also purposely bring new players who never raided before. then after a couple years we all fell apart. then one night when I was struggling to do the leviathan raid- a person that we oriented to destiny and taught the mechanics of vault of glass to- sent me an invite and did for me, what I once did for him. It was amazing. I still think about those gents from my first Destiny clan - I hope hey are out there doing well. I love this game and your video on this was well done.

I’m an on and off solo player and practically all of this is true. I was afraid of learning raids at one point bc everyone was always putting me off on ad clear all the time and what not instead of teaching. Honestly if you made a server I’d definitely join

Great video. I have been soloing destiny 2 for a while until I recently joined a D2 discord group where I can now participate in end game content. I consider myself a shy person to a degree but I found that having people that are into the same thing you are in helps so much. I would encourage any solo player who wants to venture out to join a discord/clan ect. It is the most fun you will ever have. Keep up good work.

Man it’s so comforting to hear someone else with such a similar story to me. I had a big group for Vault of Glass and Crota’s End in D1, but I never did Wrath of the Machine, and Leviathan was when my friends all bailed too. I have mostly had the same experience and despite still trying to love this game as a solo player, I agree with pretty much everything said here.

I vibe with you 100% at 6:51. I am a veteran of the game and have experienced everything D1 & D2 has to offer and I absolutely hate the people in this community who have that "god complex" just because they know the mechanics to a raid or dungeon, or know the best strategy. It is extremely toxic annoying and does not help this community grow getting new players hooked to the game. People who are veterans to this game need to humble themselves and get off their high horse otherwise all were gonna have in the end are sweaty toxic people playing who has the bigger ego.

For long I have awaited a new video and here it is thank you Timbo!!!!!!

ive been playing since half on destiny 1 and all of destint 2 and all this time i always did solo, i had my struggles with lfg, i taught my self alot of raids, lots of videos, until a week ago i found a clan that helped even if u didnt know what to do, and they took the time to teach you, and now i have a constent group and people to help when needed.

I’m forced to be solo. Even tho I’m in a good clan. I still play alone. My friends don’t even like destiny or never want to play it. guess that makes me a true hunter Lone wolf 😢

I’m new to this channel and I really like this guy. I’m a solo player so I pretty much connect with everything he said. I’d love to play with other at some time or another. I feel like even though I buy the expansion I’m missing out on half of the game which can suck sometimes. Anyway he made a lot of relatable points, and I decided to subscribe. Great video!

I can relate to this so much. Ive been playing destiny for years and I’ve hadn’t had friends to play with since then. Only time I’ve ever played with others is when I started using the fireteam setup on the Destiny app to search for players to do a raid with but once it’s over I’m back to solo or searching again.

I was solo once... Hell, I was solo until very recently, I only started making a common play group a month or so ago... And it's been so much more fun.

Been pretty much solo my whole time. Never done a raid, have done two dungeons, and imo pvp and gambit suck. I am growing increasingly frustrated with bungie not figuring out they are alienating the majority of the player base by locking us out of the best gear/weapons because we choose to not, or are unable to play, socially. I was just thinking about why I keep paying money to play this game and then came across this vid. I realize this will likely never change so have to decide whether I am willing to continue spending money or investing time into this game.

My favorite thing to do in destiny 1 was to solo nightfalls, back when that was actually possible and Bungie focued on fun over mechanics and money. Now I rarely play D2 simply because I don't want to put the time into making friends and getting crazy good at the game. I want to play, but theres nothing for me to do.

This video almost perfectly captures how I've been feeling about the game over the last few months. I primarily play solo, with some raid friends here and there I've met along the way through doing LFGs. But this last fall was the only time I've ever had access to a consistent fire team of IRL friends no less, but then they dropped off. So now I'm back to square one, except I know what I'm missing now. I think a big part of the problem is that, for all Bungie's boasting about the community building aspect of Destiny, there isn't really an easy or accessible way to find a clan as a newby. There's no LFG for clans, no one posts about them in general chat line in other MMOs. Even on Reddit, it's pretty dead in the Clan recruitment department.

I think a major issue among a whole bunch of different games is the exclusion of solo players. Destiny, Borderlands. Basically any game with giant raids and things of the such. Even certain games like some BRs force some players to have "friends" to get certain things. It's a major oversight, and almost no one is talking about. I think the biggest issue is people who have certain anxieties which prevent them from making these groups, friends, and just playing with others in general. If you look at other people asking about this stuff, the majority of the answers will be to "just ask around," but that's nearly impossible for some people. I personally think that no matter the game, a solo player should be able to access the same amount of content as players who play in groups, because it's extremely exclusional to the people who can't "just talk to people."