Detailed comparison of the 8580 SID chip with the ARMSID

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This is a detailed comparison video of the 8580 SID chip and the ARMSID.
ARMSID is a modern plug'n'play replacement for the SID-chip based on the ARM-architecture.
This video is NOT made in cooperation with anyone else than myself, and there are NO kind of paid promotion.
0:00 Preword
0:05 Intro
01:11 MSSIAH audio diagnostics 1
01:50 Nobomi ArmSID Tester (adjusting filters)
02:15 MSSIAH audio diagnostics 2
02:45 Testing with basic musical context
04:22 Description of following chapters
04:42 Testing basic waveforms
05:20 Filter tests to be done
05:30 Testing lowpass filter
06:21 Testing bandpass filter
07:09 Testing highpass filter
07:58 Testing lowpass & bandpass filters (combined)
08:50 Testing bandpass & highpass filters (combined)
09:39 Testing lowpass & highpass filters (combined)
10:29 Testing lowpass, bandpass & highpass filters (combined)
11:18 CONCLUSIONS & example song with both chips played together
12:04 Outro

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15 июн 2024

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@spacesoft 2 месяца назад

Great video, thanks! I'd like to see the same detailed comparison between 6581/8580 and FPGASID.

@MsMadLemon Год назад

Fantastic detailed comparison. I'm even more tempted by the ARMSID as a replacement. Thanks for this.

@d_vibe-swe Год назад

Thank you! Yes. It's an impressive replacement for the SID chip!

@siriokds 8 месяцев назад

I have it on my C64 as a replacement of 6581 and it sounds great, not identical but great. Just imagine it as a 3rd revision of Sid. Times ago I heard a video with UltiSid and it sounded much closer to the original Sid, but I haven't found it to buy.

@C64sidVSsid Год назад

For the C64 6581, put flter strengh to galway, four point down than the middle and don't touch central filter. I think it s the best setting for 6581 :)

@LarixusSnydes Год назад

Very good comparison. I was especially stunned how different the white noise generators sounded, even more so than the other mixed-waveform patterns. The ArmSID sounds more clear, less noisy than it's 8580 counterpart. Still, quite an achievement for such a comparatively low-cost alternative. It reminds me of the comparison between the Roland MT-32 early model and later models (and of course the great software emulation, MUNT)

@C64sidVSsid Год назад

The armsid is really impressive. It's true that I have a preference for the armsid over the original. The bass .... whaaaouu ... I use it on my C64C which has a digifix, the problem is that with the digifix and the 8580, I have sound distortions on certain samples ... with you can control the armsid in software or hardware... You can even force the armsid to 6581 and listen to demos that require it, which you can't do with the original. The firmware is in 2.14, there will still be updates and yet... the current result is great. I recommend this module which is really the ultimate mono replacement. I have a sid FPGA too, which is excellent but I managed to find more bugs with this one... like some music I love from dane... morphing... glitches are appearing on the FPGA than I don't have with the armsid. The problem also with the fpga must be configured in double mono otherwise the sound is too low. Long live the armsid, I love it :)

@sma7530 Год назад

Hello again - you kindly replied to my comment earlier about the FPGA Sid on another video here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tNhZnKlXG84.html I have seen another RU-vid video where its says he same as you "put filter strength to Galway, four point down than the middle and don't touch central filter" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mmlIhfqN43o.html - go to 11:49

@PeaceDub Год назад

This is very interesting, thank you for making all the good details 💜

@d_vibe-swe Год назад

I'm glad if it helps someone else :)

@PeaceDub Год назад

Oh wow! This is what Im looking for, Currently our SID-Chips are dead. Would you recommend the Armsid? I don't like the Sid-emulation in Ultimate 64 Elite. 😐

@d_vibe-swe Год назад

I've not tried any other SID emulation but this one, but I think it sounds good. There are ofcourse some differences between the 8580 and the ARMSID though. One cool detail is that it can emulate both 6581 and 8580, but I've not tried the first one :)

@C64sidVSsid Год назад

Armsid is very very very impressive and formidable.... and it is very nice !

@SlaserX Год назад

I have a TherapSID synth, and my 8580 died (they always die on me, 100% of the time), and I swapped it for an ARMSID, and I'm fairly impressed. It's definitely not 100%--I want to test a FPGASID to compare, but the price difference makes it hard to do that (and TherapSID doesn't support using one chip for dual SIDs like a C64 can, so it's a waste)

@elmariachi5133 Год назад

The ARM SID is really good for it's price, only the FPGA SID still is closer to the original. The waveform mixing seem to be the biggest difference to the 8580. I'd like to the same comparison betwwen the ARM-SID and the 6581 (as IMHO most of the important classic games where made fpr the 6581).

@d_vibe-swe Год назад

Yes, that was the most obvious difference. The rest is very subtle. I would also be interested to hear a comparison between the 6581 and the ARMSID, but the only 6581 I've got is the one in my SidStation. Perhaps I could do a short followup with patches on the Sidstation, but I don't want to switch the 6581 with the armsid in that one by obvious reasons :)

@hytyttiva Год назад

@@d_vibe-swe Do you know what Revision you have in the Sidstation? I remember I had a 6581R4

@d_vibe-swe Год назад

@@hytyttiva I think it's the R4 (last generation of 6581). But I can open it up and control it when I've got time. I think I will add a heat sink to it anyway.