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In this video we go through the top 4 seeds in the NBA's Eastern and Western Conferences and determine if each of them are contenders or pretenders for the 2024 NBA Playoffs
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@poppatheegoat
@poppatheegoat 2 месяца назад
Bro think bucks for real is all we needed to know
@kraff2988
@kraff2988 2 месяца назад
They won like 3 years ago. The only change to their core since then is Dame instead of Jrue, and dame isn’t exactly a scrub. I don’t think they’re gonna win but to act like they definitely can’t is some BS. Big part of their problem is Dame underperforming this year. So if he can actually step back up to how he use to play then that’ll defeat make a big difference.
@CahlilWesson
@CahlilWesson 2 месяца назад
@@kraff2988yea hes had all season to worry about his divorce its time for business
@MrDerpCentral
@MrDerpCentral 2 месяца назад
bro is just bro bro
@mrRambleGamble
@mrRambleGamble 2 месяца назад
Bucks are busted. Dame time is over. Giannis is injured. Their coach is Doc Rivers. Need I say more?
@bumpcrud
@bumpcrud 2 месяца назад
But the Knicks are frauds? With OG and Mitch back and in a shaky east (outside of Boston)? This dude has garbage takes. foh
@youwontlikethistake
@youwontlikethistake 2 месяца назад
The Celtics are frauds until they actually win one. That team has a couple of Robins without a Batman. If either JT or JB were really “the guy,” the Celtics would have won 2+ rings already.
@jayburditt9184
@jayburditt9184 2 месяца назад
Yes a Wolves team who have a winning record against the Nuggets, lost their 2nd best player (who is returning) and still posted a winning record, and a team with the best defense is a fraud. Makes sense.
@johnvande2314
@johnvande2314 2 месяца назад
His credibility is lacking with this video
@Juimango40
@Juimango40 2 месяца назад
TLDW: Young teams are frauds, old teams are for real
@ASharpPencil
@ASharpPencil 2 месяца назад
Thanks, saved me lots of time
@ColdHoops
@ColdHoops 2 месяца назад
If old teams are for real, why haven't Clippers won a championship yet? 💀
@scottsykes3921
@scottsykes3921 2 месяца назад
@@ColdHoopsbc they haven’t been healthy
@ColdHoops
@ColdHoops 2 месяца назад
@@scottsykes3921 That wasn't an excuse in the bubble and when they made their first WCF🤷‍♂️
@pattyg1184
@pattyg1184 2 месяца назад
​@@ColdHoops cuz they're a team full of diva me first players 😂
@chickensofried
@chickensofried 2 месяца назад
having the knicks as the thumbnail and not the celtics is grade A hating
@brocode5984
@brocode5984 2 месяца назад
He’s always a Knicks hater 🤷🏽
@MrTrueCaller619
@MrTrueCaller619 2 месяца назад
Celtics just made a finals, what're u talking about, stop watching basketball
@fabianwilliams1475
@fabianwilliams1475 2 месяца назад
Following media agenda
@gachaaddict1448
@gachaaddict1448 2 месяца назад
@@MrTrueCaller619they lost, stop watching basketball
@mr.z9309
@mr.z9309 2 месяца назад
@@gachaaddict1448and where were the knicks?
@wwalwyn
@wwalwyn 2 месяца назад
Wait now I know you don’t know basketball.
@king_kingston24
@king_kingston24 2 месяца назад
You actually just hatin on the Knicks for no reason
@superQman600
@superQman600 2 месяца назад
Everytime someone says something negative about y’all favorite teams, rather true or not, y’all claim everyone is a hater 😂
@jayherbogaming
@jayherbogaming 2 месяца назад
Gawk gawk
@polobrown28
@polobrown28 2 месяца назад
How y’all don’t have enough scoring
@Knickssuck2024
@Knickssuck2024 2 месяца назад
@@polobrown28they just got jb
@polobrown28
@polobrown28 2 месяца назад
@@Knickssuck2024 facts which gonna get doubled in da playoffs
@chrilpy
@chrilpy 2 месяца назад
Funny that the bucks brought Dame in for playoff success even though he has been awful the few times he has been past the 1st round
@bedstuy4_l895
@bedstuy4_l895 2 месяца назад
And Doc bro like this team was built to completely implode this summer. They could be completely blown up into one of the worst teams in NBA history if it doesn’t work out this season.
@superQman600
@superQman600 2 месяца назад
@@bedstuy4_l895They just got together. Relax.
@UnbreakableHER0
@UnbreakableHER0 2 месяца назад
Tbh Randle out for the knicks isnt that bad since he dissapears in the playoffs anyway and can now have some games to adjust to playing without him
@ColetivoLunar
@ColetivoLunar 2 месяца назад
Clippers and Bucks for real? I noticed the Knicks and Ant Edwards hate before, but now it’s going way too far.
@ColetivoLunar
@ColetivoLunar Месяц назад
I was right and I don’t even have a RU-vid channel pretending I know something by being biased af
@clutchprod24
@clutchprod24 2 месяца назад
5:58 bro says this like paolo wasnt already an all star this year
@Sincerefan
@Sincerefan 2 месяца назад
Exactly and he also somehow fails to realize that Paolo was voted 4th by peers, 6th by fans, tied 5th by media as the best frontcourt player in the East. Overall rankings had him right behind the perma MVP candidate 3, Tatum, Embiid, Giannis and Jaylen Brown who is having a historic year on a historic team. Any of the top 4 teams can win, all aren't frauds, the Bucks lost in the first round last season are they frauds? Being top 4 means you have shown you are a competent team. This whole video can boil down to "I don't trust young teams with no playoff experience no matter how good they are/were in the regular season, but I do trust teams with playoff experience and with vets no matter how badly they look". Essentially young teams bad, established teams good. Its pretty lazy honestly sadly and I honestly like Hoops videos.
@lakritz1987
@lakritz1987 2 месяца назад
Come on. You can’t really argue that Orlando is a contender. That’s nonsense. And one all-star player does not make a team a contender. There is not one contending team that has only one All-Star player
@griff9077
@griff9077 2 месяца назад
​@lakritz1987 the nuggets bruh. Won a chip with a 1 all star lineup. Murray may play like a all star during the playoffs but he's the only one whose close on the nuggets.
@TheFrostyMan21
@TheFrostyMan21 2 месяца назад
Bro your take on edwards is always so shit. Edwards was the best player last year in a meaningful series so why can’t he again this year. What do you have against Edwards? I agree Timberwolves right now are in trouble with KAT being injured and all so I’m okay with calling them frauds but your take on edwards is once again shit
@government1476
@government1476 2 месяца назад
Most of these guys don't actually watch the twolves
@dregamingz
@dregamingz 2 месяца назад
Bro is on crack. You think Ant was better than Jokic last year in against the nuggets?
@government1476
@government1476 2 месяца назад
@@dregamingz he was better in the series or atleast on the same level
@dregamingz
@dregamingz 2 месяца назад
@@government1476 cap
@dregamingz
@dregamingz 2 месяца назад
@@government1476 your only argument could be that Jokic let Murray cook for the first few games but Jokic closed that series stronger than any performance that Edwards had. And still Jokic outperformed him.
@lakritz1987
@lakritz1987 2 месяца назад
Interesting how every fan of a team that is labelled a fraud in this video is screaming that he is „just hating“, while non of them is giving any argument why he was incorrect in his assessment. Bring arguments guys, or stop hating this channel yourself
@ColetivoLunar
@ColetivoLunar Месяц назад
Do we need to say something? Lol
@wack5722
@wack5722 2 месяца назад
Hellll nah bro. The wolves are not frauds. I don’t expect us to win everything this year but seriously? How can you say ANT doesn’t have what it takes to be the best player on the team for a playoff series😭.
@wack5722
@wack5722 2 месяца назад
With this, this season we have played the nuggets 3 times and beaten them twice with ant as the leading scorer over all 3 games with 27-28 ppg
@wack5722
@wack5722 2 месяца назад
KAT was one of the only 50 40 90 players throughout most of the season too. What else do I have to say? Naz Reid? Mike Conley? GOBERT? Mcdaniels? NAW? Slo mo? 😔
@lakritz1987
@lakritz1987 2 месяца назад
To make this argument you have to say a lot more. Twolves have not made it to a conference finals just yet. To me they are a fraud until they prove that they belong to the contenders, by actually contending in the playoffs
@alexvoigt9204
@alexvoigt9204 2 месяца назад
@@lakritz1987 if that's the metric, then there's no reason for this video to even exist then because the delineation between frauds and contenders is basically just "have you made a deep playoff run in the past," never mind their performance in THIS season.
@colevt
@colevt 2 месяца назад
A lot fans just don’t get an opportunity to watch the Timberwolves. I can’t wait to watch their playoff run. Ant has a real opportunity to become the new face of the league if they win this year.
@MRulli427
@MRulli427 2 месяца назад
Bro left the mavs of the list? They are better than half the team you mention
@nikki-op4xj
@nikki-op4xj 2 месяца назад
this
@chesteralexandercarpio2793
@chesteralexandercarpio2793 2 месяца назад
He just said that he's grading the each top 4 teams. And mention those teams that below Mavs if you may.
@janovolkner8108
@janovolkner8108 2 месяца назад
A team with doc as head coach just can't be for real 😂😂 cmon mam
@lakritz1987
@lakritz1987 2 месяца назад
Nonsense. You don’t need to like him in order to acknowledge that He did win a title
@Justaguy_21
@Justaguy_21 2 месяца назад
@@lakritz1987yeah… like in 2008 and hasn’t done shit since despite having great teams
@ColdHoops
@ColdHoops 2 месяца назад
​@@lakritz1987 You're so unserious. Wake UP!
@DirkJoseph
@DirkJoseph 2 месяца назад
Dude the Knicks (frauds), just beat Milwaukee (Contenders) at home. Do your homework..last vid I watch by you..
@joshengels3440
@joshengels3440 2 месяца назад
It's almost like it's one game chill
@brycebenedictt
@brycebenedictt 2 месяца назад
lol that was one game bro
@daredevil350
@daredevil350 2 месяца назад
Didn't the Knicks beat Milwaukee Christmas Day also?
@Frank-hv7xj
@Frank-hv7xj 2 месяца назад
Milwaukee is trash tho. They have no chemistry or the right talent. And they're old
@Quazey8
@Quazey8 2 месяца назад
​@@daredevil350and blew them out without their second best player lol. This is too soon because the Knicks could be the #2 seed by next week.
@user-oh1ds3lw5n
@user-oh1ds3lw5n 2 месяца назад
Bro I really been startin to question yo takes lately
@kishorhegde7218
@kishorhegde7218 2 месяца назад
Very casual take..No real insight..Old team real and young team frauds..
@redmangoose182
@redmangoose182 2 месяца назад
Some spicy takes here for sure.
@deshaunreid7728
@deshaunreid7728 2 месяца назад
Don't sleep Bing Bong
@mr.kwamid-86_43
@mr.kwamid-86_43 2 месяца назад
billabong wong?
@ronndobandss2051
@ronndobandss2051 2 месяца назад
Yall one dimensional asfuck Just like your city
@pawnography5788
@pawnography5788 2 месяца назад
It’s Lukas time now.
@juanmascaraquegarcia9327
@juanmascaraquegarcia9327 2 месяца назад
Mavs for real
@Luigi22Green
@Luigi22Green 2 месяца назад
I would also have thrown the Mavs in as contenders, even though this was top 4 only I think they will give Denver the hardest time in the West as I think they match up really well
@TBCLINQ
@TBCLINQ 2 месяца назад
Brunson in the thumbnail 💀
@xj2225
@xj2225 2 месяца назад
Having the Clippers in the FR category is blasphemous. They're about to be a first or second-round exit
@clix8100
@clix8100 2 месяца назад
I'm coming back to this when the knicks make a deep run 👀
@minhnguyencong2084
@minhnguyencong2084 2 месяца назад
You know most of his take is good their are a few i don’t agree with like the ant think but he gave usually good argument on why he think so
@hot_take
@hot_take 2 месяца назад
so basically every younger team is a fraud and old ones are for real
@johnvande2314
@johnvande2314 2 месяца назад
How are you gonna diss the T-wolves and then say "They are the league's best defensive unit in the league"
@alexvoigt9204
@alexvoigt9204 2 месяца назад
A few things regarding your "Timberwolves are frauds" claim: 1.) They've made the playoffs the last 2 seasons, albeit as lower seeds. They put up good fights in both their first-round exits against higher seeds, so claiming they lack playoff experience doesn't gel with reality. 2.) As it stands, potential first-round matchups for the Wolves include the Suns, Kings, Lakers and Warriors. Ant is better than anyone on the Kings and the more marquee guys on the Suns, Lakers and Warriors are all either on the older side and potentially banged up for the playoffs. Also Ant's averaging a 28-5-4 on 47/38/84 splits in 11 playoff games so far and has made a leap this season, so the contention that he won't be the best player in the series is complete crap. Dude gets better when it matters and he's clearly hungry. 3.) Gobert certainly has a long history of playoff struggles, but he's also never played on a team with wing defenders in the same class as McDaniels and Edwards when he's locked in. Teams won't be able to put him on an island like they did against Utah in the playoffs. 4.) Towns being banged up and potentially rusty for the playoffs is definitely concerning for their offense, but the Wolves have gone 12-5 in his absence with wins against both LA teams, Golden State and Denver. Naz Reid's averaged an 18-7 since KAT went down and other guys are stepping up as well. 5.) The Wolves have played well against pretty much any of their potential first-round teams and have hung tough against higher seeds as well. The Pelicans are pretty much the only team that always gives them fits because they don't really have someone that can guard a healthy Zion, but that can be said for just about any other team when it comes to Zion and the Pelicans haven't exactly been a beacon of consistency lately.
@mateenbashiri5938
@mateenbashiri5938 2 месяца назад
okay guys i’m a huge thunder fan so i also disagree with the takes and feel yalls pain but can we all just chill?? this man is a youtuber and he provides us HIS OPINION on these videos, it’s totally fine to disagree in the comments and state your opinions but it shouldn’t be bothering yall this much, these comments are not it, let’s all be more kind❤️
@brettdowney44
@brettdowney44 2 месяца назад
It’s so silly how you say the bucks have the best chance to beat the bucks but then immediately say the Knicks are fraudulent. Yes Randle is out and that is awful. Made me think for a second that we were out of a run no question. We still have Anunoby guarding the best player, hartenstein and Robinson down low, hart snagging every rebound there is. And Brunson and Dante lighting it up. AND, they have amazing chemistry. Everyone should be scared, we got a Jimmy Butler heat type playoff team brewing just watch
@darthvulcanis4002
@darthvulcanis4002 2 месяца назад
I love the Clippers and Buck... But they aint making it past first round.... Harden and Doc are serial chokers
@Tayte25
@Tayte25 2 месяца назад
Clippers aren’t for real. They haven’t proved themselves in the playoffs
@conorwatchvidz
@conorwatchvidz 2 месяца назад
I don’t know man the Knicks are playing pretty damn good right now and Brunson specifically. The Bucks are playing like shit
@LloydTackwell
@LloydTackwell 2 месяца назад
Nuggets lost their depth and SGA IS a 1 dimensional pg great at finishing but does not create for others
@elpadrino5563
@elpadrino5563 2 месяца назад
Ah haaaa. He said the bubble chip doesn’t count 🎉we got one ☝🏼
@BCG285
@BCG285 2 месяца назад
This guy video based on ESPN highlights 😅
@tomassilveira1987
@tomassilveira1987 2 месяца назад
Clippers should be called the Los Angeles MaybeNextYear’ers
@TheHuskyK9
@TheHuskyK9 2 месяца назад
You think the Clippers are for real? The same Clippers that's full of playoff chokers?
@lakritz1987
@lakritz1987 2 месяца назад
I know u believe this was an argument. But it isn’t. Bring a “choker“ is just a label. It has no meaning in RL
@ColdHoops
@ColdHoops 2 месяца назад
​@@lakritz1987 He doesn't need to make an argument. Just analyse since the bubble till 2023 playoffs... Clippers have failed to win it all. You can't take that franchise seriously. I learned this after they lost to Houston game 6 in 2015
@xox0143
@xox0143 2 месяца назад
I mean maybe takes like this is why people arent subscribing
@darealsavage3472
@darealsavage3472 Месяц назад
Wow you were so wrong about the timberwolves, I still think the thunder are frauds since they played a pelicans team without Zion aka the worst team in the playoffs by a mile, ill give you a break and the two stars on the Bucks were injured almost the whole series and the Knicks played a rusty Embiid coming off injury so that was a relatively easy series for them and Anunoby is playing good again
@gemox3225
@gemox3225 2 месяца назад
I'm not a Knicks fan but I think they are for real even without Randle as long as Anunoby is healthy.
@0207xander
@0207xander 2 месяца назад
Thunder are not frauds, they have an elite record against top 10 teams this year and great half court offense. They’re top 10 in defensive and offensive rating. Aside from “I haven’t seen it before so it can’t happen”, what is preventing them from winning multiple playoff series
@User-uy6nh
@User-uy6nh 2 месяца назад
Experience. We’ve seen this before, the 60 win atl hawks got destroyed by lebron himself due to having no playoff experience
@User-uy6nh
@User-uy6nh 2 месяца назад
I’m a heat fan but trust me when I say this if okc go against a veteran team like warriors or lakers they’re cooked
@0207xander
@0207xander 2 месяца назад
@@User-uy6nh Thunder are 3-1 against Warriors this season. Lakers are a bad example since they are clearly a much better playoff team than their seed indicates and they made the WCF last year
@0207xander
@0207xander 2 месяца назад
@@User-uy6nh The Hawks made the ECF and then lost to the GOAT lol, how is that bad? If the Thunder made the WCF and lost to Jokic, would you say they were frauds and "got destroyed"?
@User-uy6nh
@User-uy6nh 2 месяца назад
@@0207xander I’m sayin if they go against a veteran team they’re gonna get exposed
@swankythegreat
@swankythegreat 2 месяца назад
The Timberwolves and the Clippers have been to the WCF the same number of times... just sayin
@jesseyanez9293
@jesseyanez9293 2 месяца назад
If the clips are for real the mavs definitely looking good after we beat them 1st round
@PokeWorldHD1
@PokeWorldHD1 2 месяца назад
Kawhi gone put belt to ass
@brownstreetboys4623
@brownstreetboys4623 2 месяца назад
To be honest, i was planning to watch this video. I cant even watch like 30 seconds cuz they title is annoying lol... IMO lol Just call it :" FOR REAL or Not"
@giovannifeliciano837
@giovannifeliciano837 2 месяца назад
Comments calm down 😂. Just an opinion from a creator. If we don’t like the opinion leave
@Drunken_Master
@Drunken_Master 2 месяца назад
I have more chances of winning the MVP this year than the Bucks winning the ring.
@slamausen07
@slamausen07 2 месяца назад
You are actually trippin. Saying the wolves are frauds, but the bucks are legit after the up and down inconsistent season they have had? And the clippers are legit with two of the biggest playoff chokers in PG and Harden?… not sure what you got against ANT either, but he’s shown he can be the best player in a meaningful series.
@TBCLINQ
@TBCLINQ 2 месяца назад
Bad take for the bucks , they be losing today in the playoffs with doc rivers.
@krisg3818
@krisg3818 2 месяца назад
Bucks not for real especially under glen rivers he aint doc anymore to me. If Giannis doesn't play in the first round bucks wont win. The best bet for the bucks tank the last 3 games finish 3rd and play the pacers they dont want the 2 seed and possibly have to face the heat or sixers
@Pgetoff
@Pgetoff 2 месяца назад
We here bum ha
@ChrisTookFlight
@ChrisTookFlight 2 месяца назад
Bucks being in “for real” invalidates ur whole list, L casual.
@kendellbrown
@kendellbrown 2 месяца назад
Giannis hurt
@mycabbages3538
@mycabbages3538 2 месяца назад
Mavs in 5
@HBCOU
@HBCOU 2 месяца назад
Your...take...not...mine
@noway1343
@noway1343 2 месяца назад
How u leave tge mavs off of this rookie
@mareklame8589
@mareklame8589 2 месяца назад
healthy Clippers are real, usual Clippers are frauds! I feel OKC could be too young, but MIN are OK.
@TheSid2355
@TheSid2355 2 месяца назад
There is a reason he does not have subscribers. Bucks are for real lol
@tRaw10
@tRaw10 2 месяца назад
lol the injury prone Clips are for real, but a perfectly healthy Thunder are frauds 🤣 can’t wait to laugh at Harden being a total flop again in the playoffs
@groceries4865
@groceries4865 2 месяца назад
Oh the team with 3 22 Y/O and under as their top 3 players are frauds? great commentary man 👍 i thought they would go all the way!
@User-uy6nh
@User-uy6nh 2 месяца назад
Experience. When was the last time you saw a team go far with no playoff experience?
@groceries4865
@groceries4865 2 месяца назад
@@User-uy6nh no shit they’re not going to win. They’re not fraudulent though? It would be fraudulent if a team was expected to win. Do you understand?
@User-uy6nh
@User-uy6nh 2 месяца назад
@@groceries4865 look at the poll they’re top 5 to win it
@kendellbrown
@kendellbrown 2 месяца назад
Video too old to publish now
@user-hh6dn5gi4c
@user-hh6dn5gi4c 2 месяца назад
Apart from the Timberwolves, the others seem fair. L
@Sincerefan
@Sincerefan 2 месяца назад
So essentially young teams bad, teams with playoff vets good. End video. Thats literally your entire analysis for every fraud and why teams struggling may possibly be for real. I honestly disagree and think you could have really made some analysis. But its your opinion and video which I do understand. Just really 0 true analysis. I honestly like your vids HR generally but man this feels pretty bland/lazy. For example at some point you said Paolo wasnt an All Star caliber guy completely forgetting that he was literally a true All Star this year (not an injury replacement).
@michaelspencer_
@michaelspencer_ 2 месяца назад
Lol Knicks frauds but bucks for real you just lost all credibility
@martinleland3969
@martinleland3969 2 месяца назад
cavs all the wayyyy lol
@tantanmen858
@tantanmen858 2 месяца назад
Bucks are fr?? 😂😭
@ToughestOperaSinger
@ToughestOperaSinger 2 месяца назад
Knicks didn’t have Randle since before the OG trade
@troykilby5394
@troykilby5394 2 месяца назад
Jalen Brunson should win the mvp
@ColdHoops
@ColdHoops 2 месяца назад
Really ANT should, but the MVP votings are about analytics now...
@mikew5234
@mikew5234 Месяц назад
This doesn’t age well lmao
@haoranzhang2252
@haoranzhang2252 2 месяца назад
bro you might as well just say that the old team is for real and the young teams are frauds, no need to make a 9 mins video for this...
@alexreyes9838
@alexreyes9838 2 месяца назад
This takes are so baaaaaad 😂
@VC-13
@VC-13 2 месяца назад
Very shallow take
@mrwesmess6715
@mrwesmess6715 2 месяца назад
Really I don't agree with you on a lot of this crap
@EmpSurge
@EmpSurge 2 месяца назад
Lil bro you don’t know ball
@hue6897
@hue6897 2 месяца назад
Bucks aint for real bro
@eclipseshadow6563
@eclipseshadow6563 2 месяца назад
Hater like wtf
@stevenbonanno149
@stevenbonanno149 2 месяца назад
👎
@iamnotdead6661
@iamnotdead6661 2 месяца назад
Bsssssssss
@carlanthonynunez5393
@carlanthonynunez5393 2 месяца назад
Ur the Fraud calling the T-wolves fraud.
@pr3miumcr3y97
@pr3miumcr3y97 2 месяца назад
Me first 💯
@spensorbierman8597
@spensorbierman8597 2 месяца назад
Great job man have a wonderful day
@GeoDude24
@GeoDude24 Месяц назад
You bum 😂
@jong323
@jong323 2 месяца назад
The east is so weak
@Dynasty-Star
@Dynasty-Star 2 месяца назад
So weak that the East All-Stars blew out the West All-Stars this year right
@Asterisks12
@Asterisks12 2 месяца назад
@@Dynasty-Star you think they actually try? lmao
@moriedelgado3763
@moriedelgado3763 2 месяца назад
Unsubscribed and "Literally the WORST channel talking about BASKETBALL"
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