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Determining tuning frequency of a cabinet using garbanzo beans. 

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I learned a cool trick from Phil Bamberg from Bamberg Audio regarding how to determine the tuning frequency of a system using rice or beans in the cone and running a frequency sweep through the tuning frequency of the cabinet.
Theoretically, the frequency that the rice or beans stop moving is the tuning frequency of the system.
Take a look at the video to see how it works.

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2 янв 2016

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@tedtan6449
@tedtan6449 5 лет назад
best ever visual demo, so literally you can "tune" box by loading weigh on radiator, if you need to lower the initial tuning frequency which is higher
@Musiclear
@Musiclear 4 года назад
Exactly... :)
@nordgrinder6119
@nordgrinder6119 6 лет назад
A great visual representation of this effect. In case anybody's wondering, a vented cabinet would produce the same effect. At Fb (tuned frequency) the vent moves most of the air (Helmholtz resonance), while the cone moves least.
@nelvalak13thlesserkey97
@nelvalak13thlesserkey97 5 лет назад
Nordgrinder ,,,have a look at cymatics
@nordgrinder6119
@nordgrinder6119 6 лет назад
...for extra credit, it would be cool to see the opposite result as well, with bean movement on one of the passive radiators maximized at that same frequency.
@alanray2446
@alanray2446 6 лет назад
this is perfect for me , I learned this from you and it let me know that my box is tuned to 30.31 the fs of my sub is 31 hz. so i hit it pretty close . sounds really great on all music . Thank you .
@rodgersmakaza
@rodgersmakaza 7 лет назад
thanks that was straight forward
@HiFiman4u
@HiFiman4u 2 года назад
Quite clever
@bNNjh5fu000jy
@bNNjh5fu000jy 6 лет назад
That is interesting. I am reading Loudspeaker Design Cookbook atm. I always figured that the tuning Fr of a cabinet is when the note/Hz is the loudest and is a passive way to increase bass response as an extended SPL .... but apparently not.
@bakernate88
@bakernate88 5 лет назад
Should probably use less beans since added weight will change resonance of driver.
@Musiclear
@Musiclear 4 года назад
The very few grams of those dried beans wouldn't amount to a hill of beans in the change of response. It actually takes quite a bit of weight to offset the weight of the air to change the FS of the Passive radiator.
@ompalumpa5910
@ompalumpa5910 4 года назад
Ok so. When the active driver almost doesnt move. But the passive radiator moves the most? If so mine is tuned to 28 hz
@Musiclear
@Musiclear 4 года назад
Exactly... :)
@ompalumpa5910
@ompalumpa5910 4 года назад
@@Musiclear thx for answering
@nelvalak13thlesserkey97
@nelvalak13thlesserkey97 5 лет назад
30 hz is also the natural frequency of weed ,,also if you meditate on 30hz you feel stoned 😂😂,,,you have an awesome speaker ,,,epic video 🤘
@Musiclear
@Musiclear 4 года назад
I've not heard that, but it may be worth the adventure. :)
@nelvalak13thlesserkey97
@nelvalak13thlesserkey97 4 года назад
Musiclear must definitely right !!! There’s generators on RU-vid for weed 30hz but a lot of them get taken down ,,, there’s a frequency for everything 🤘😁
@JACK-wh6jl
@JACK-wh6jl 22 дня назад
i wish you would have explained a few more things. free air vs a passive reflex or both. how to determine shelf or tube port & how to tune...👍🏻😎😜⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@jeffdewe
@jeffdewe 6 лет назад
But what good does that do?Knowing your box is tuned to 30.31hz , you can't adjust a radiator, if you had a port tube you could extend it or shorten it I guess.
@Musiclear
@Musiclear 6 лет назад
This is a DIY system that I made a few years ago and the passives have a weight mount in the back for tuning. The more weight, the lower the tuning frequency. So, yes, you can tune them to match how the drivers interact with the cabinet and this will have a profound effect on low-end response.
@bbfoto7248
@bbfoto7248 5 лет назад
@@Musiclear So what tuning frequency did you settle on? And which subwoofers and passive radiators are you using? Inquiring minds want to know! :-P
@travisgulley2652
@travisgulley2652 4 года назад
Quick question if I were to paint the inside of a subwoofer enclosure will the tuning frequency get lowered
@Musiclear
@Musiclear 4 года назад
The only way that would make a difference is if the cabinet has resonances and the coating stops those. Otherwise, no. It will not affect the tuning frequency at all.
@mrpositive8664
@mrpositive8664 6 лет назад
nice!
@JonathanDillonfds-fx
@JonathanDillonfds-fx 6 лет назад
Is is safe for me to assume this trick can work for ported boxes as well, if it is fair to believe that a port works in a similar effective manner as the passive radiator?
@Musiclear
@Musiclear 6 лет назад
Yes, That is true. It will work in any tuned box.