Old diesels don't like the cold for sure. I remember how hard it was getting old buses to start in the cold. They had hundreds of thousands of miles on them also.
And now today, most bussed get retired before they hit 100K miles due to the endless emission system component failures making them too costly and unreliable for their applications.
Alex Robinett We don't have emissions in WV. They don't have emissions or even inspections in OH (which is where I register my cars for insurance reasons, I have property in both states).
Yes, wasn't plugged in and the injector timing was advanced, also had the fuel modulator set fairly aggressive so its soaking it in fuel. Cam timing is standard. backed off the modulator and inj advance and its quite a bit better now.
@@tripplefives1402 I think that above the rings is lubricated by the fuel in a detroit. Below the rings is where the oil's at. I think. I could be wrong.
Over the past 15 years , I have found that diesel engines are the way to go, but you have a few things to remember, one of those things , is to plug in the engine warmer any time it is going to drop to a temp that makes YOUR engine hard to start, The other thing involved in a cold start issue , is to NOT rev the engine while it is cold, this does more damage than most other abusive habits, let it run and warm up some, one last thing involved in a cold start, only use starting fluid as a LAST resort, that stuff can send engine parts to the county next to you, if it wont start after you plug it in, get it checked out, If a person treats his or her diesel engine right, It will be there for you for a lot longer time than any gas engine
@@adambryant2434 Lots of Diesel engines are notorious for lasting a million plus miles, Gas engines mostly go out around 300,000 and those are the well made ones many others blow up way before 200,000 and the new cars are now using really thin oils which doesent even make them last 100,000.... It’s funny when I used to work at an auto parts store people would ask me for the 0w-20 and I would just tell them that they might as well just pour water into their engines... atleast use a 10w-30 oil for any gas engine I don’t care what the hell chevy said or what racing brand oil your nissan uses don’t use no damn 0w-20.... I don’t care for gas engines anyways. I’ll take a Detroit 6-71t and pour some 20w-50 in their.... That’s what ya call a 1.5 Million mile machine
@@DIVeltro The rig of my wildest dreams is a square body GMC 3/4-ton 4WD Suburban with as little body lift as I can get away with and still fit a 6V53T under a 2-3” cowl hood. I’d have to have a bunch of gears, maybe a 10-speed Road Ranger, I’m sure there’s a way to make a transfer case work with one.
Hey, is there any way I could get a build sheet for this and a rough estimate on how much you spent doing it? I've been wanting to do the same build on my 03 3/4 ton Chevy, but I'm not sure where to start.
These Cold Starts are pretty hard to listen to now... Used to be cool, but now I just Cringe ... I plug my Detroit Diesel in for 3 hours and she starts up like she is warm and has been running .. Some white smoke for a couple minutes and she is good to go ... These Cold Cold starts can not possibly be good for any part of the Engine where Friction is building up , if you want them to last.
Creedence18 yeah its a tiny 4 banger with a max out put of maybe 210 hp and 400 lb/ft torque a breathed on duramax would beat the hell out of a tiny 4 canner anyday
Love detritus! Should crank at full throttle when she fires let off the gas to idle and let her warm up. All older diesels should be started that way. Nice truck!
It's AT full throttle when cranking. When below minimum idle speed the governor pulls the rack to full fuel until the engine is at or above idle speed setting and then it pulls the rack back to whatever position it needs to maintain idle. No need for pedal input, it won't do anything.
Hey Tommy. Roy here. I saw your comment from 3 years ago about the 453T cold start and how you needed a block heater. I thought that was you and wanted to let you know I still have your Suburban.
@@rvhmobility That's great you still have it! Are you driving it? Is the 4-53 still in there? Right now I've got a 6-53 aluminum block in a 97 Chevy one-ton. That's great to hear from you!
-7 Celsius. That's -20 degrees fahrenheit... It doesn't matter what diesel you are running. Without a heater you're going to be working the starter overtime. Welcome to Diesel 101 buddy.
Check your math. -7C is +20F. Still a DD doesn't like to fire immediately at that temp. I've done it on a 8v71 at -20F but only after warming the engine compartment for an hour or so. The straight 40w oil doesn't help either.
@@LifesLaboratory that's not a factory engine. That is a 453 Detroit Diesel dropped in there from the 50s They don't have glow plugs Detroit two-cycle engines never did. Basically they have to heat up the oil on the grid or else use ether to get them going. This was a classic cold start unplugged and he did not use ether just to see how long it take to start that old 2 cycle
@@truckerkevthepaidtourist Again, how does this relate to my comment that "If your vehicle won't start at this temperature on the first try, it has issues." This person lives in a cool climate (there's snow on the ground), making this engine a very poor choice and thus an issue. Where I live, I need an engine that can start at -30C without assistance (below that I will use the block heater if electricity is available). Hell, my snow blower has no issue starting at -30C with a pull cord.
2 stroke diesels are like chain saws they can't be expected to be started cold and they hate the cold. They scavenge in extreme cold idling up and down
just use ether dude got tired of swapping starters on my shit, finally started just using ether and fuck man it's great doesn't even make horrible noises when it is cold enough
4-53T in a newer Silverado? I say BS myself, but whatever floats your boat. Newer generation 4 stroke diesels seem to put out more power than the older motors with a better fuel economy. If it’s the real deal kudos to the man for keeping the old stuff moving.
You need to move south my friend! That looks miserable. When we want to go enjoy the snow, we go to the mountains, but on the same day, you go from 8,000 ft elevation and snow to sea level and you're back to 60 degrees farenheit in January.
Oh, that beautiful 2-stroke-cycle music! Could've recorded a little more after after she fired up, couldn't you have?? I want to put a 4-71 Jimmy in an old 1-ton truck and make music like that!
Geez, if that's how hard it starts at -7° C (20 F), I guess I don't want to swap one of those into my truck. We get -40° around here pretty regularly. I don't think there's a snowball's chance it'd ever start in that kind of weather. Cool vid though.
get in the seat press the pedal to the floor that's exactly what an old Detroit mechanic to me when cold once started warm up a minute and Dont stop get in and go
Better is fast idle for about 5 minutes. 40w oil at that temp won't flow well, and the upper cylinders are choked. Give the oil pump a little help and let the cylinders expand a bit before just taking off.
Why in the hell would anyone want to go through all of that just to get their personal vehicle started? I can see it if you're a truck driver driving a big rig but for your own personal vehicle that's ridiculous. Why go through all that when you could just turn the key on gas engine and fire it right up
@gcmotorman6379 Non-diesel-wimpy man speaking. MY GOD, WIMPY MAN, DIDN'T YOU HEAR AND FEEL THAT GOD-AWFUL, BEAUTIFUL, ROD-KNOCKING MUSIC POUNDING DOWN ON YOUR SKULL & AND UP YOUR SPHINCTER? NO! OR YOU WOULDN'T BE ASKING! As the man, said just follow the herd.
Lol dude. "Look at me I know trucks and mah bleh bleh Duramax is the bestest diesel muhhhhhree. I think new stuff with twice as many cylinders is more economic even though it requires Def and lacks in power beyond belief and think its a lighter block even though it weighs 300 more pounds than a 4 banger detroit" that is what you sound like to people who know their shit.
Dankey Kang64 LB7 and LLY and LBZ doesn’t have any def, secondly tune them and it will make way more power than that out of date oil slobbering two stroke. Thirdly go back and re check your specs on weight and factory power ratings for these engines.
Dankey Kang64 I’ve driven long and short haul for years at a younger age and now moved onto a career as a heavy duty tech fixing this kind of stuff. It’s a neat bit of hot rodding but it’s ancient tech and not practical vs a good running modern Diesel engine given the pickup truck it’s currently in. Have you ever set the timing on one of those? Balanced out the injectors? Adjusted a fuel rack? Rebuilt one?
I see you dont know much about detroits. They were designed with no starting aids and live just fine without them. Use my share of E to run your hybrid.
It's because of idiots like you that I am reluctant to show off my historic vehicles and equipment on RU-vid. You comment without any knowledge of a 4-53 Detroit Diesel engine because IF you did have any idea how they worked you'd know that video shows how they started in the cold when they were new.
