@@snuffysmiff Depends on what kind of used boat and the condition. When i had no money I ran boats for 100s of hours that costed less than grand from the 70s... rebuild the carbs, some fresh gas, impeller and a battery and had minimal to no issues. When I found the a new better boat i often sold it for no loss. For me it was finding boats that were only used in fresh water especially for a decent old engine and drag them out to the coast. My current boat is a 97 23 foot with a 2010 yamaha 200, as far as the boat goes its been great for the last 7 years, i had to replace the 110 gallon gas tank last summer due to a pinhole leak and changed the electronics out (because i wanted to) but other than that I run it like I stole it. Standard engine maintenance. As long as your willing to do the work yourself and you buy it right its not bad. Probably the biggest joke is my boat is now worth more now then what i paid for it do the lack surplus of boats currently, almost sold it for 30 grand a few months ago and when I bought if for 20. IMO, stay away from project boats, buy something that runs and is complete with a trailer, wood free construction, stay away from I/Os and avoid certain volvo outdrives like the plague, take into account the age of the gas tank and what its made of. Theres a few outboard engines and years id avoid too. Personally id rather buy a 5 year old boat with 500 hours on the outboard then a brand new one, You see all the possible issues with the hull / layup when its that age, spider cracking, poor wiring, fixes (if any) and get a huge huge discount. When you buy a new boat theres a very big chance it'll be back for warranty work for poor wiring or gelcoat issues thats most likely been resolved by the first owner. With all that said, if you dont use your boat often its best to off it and put your money in your pocket, nothing more expensive than an unused boat.
@Humpty Dumpty "Nothing is as bad as owning a boat..lol it's a big hole in the ocean that all your money falls into". I am told that a Russian Oligarch used to tell people: "If it Floats, Flies, or F(ornicates)**ks, RENT IT!"
You've got to keep up on the overall maintenance on these engines and get the little stuff fixed right away. I'm betting this engine overheated BIG TIME at least once in it's life. I'm guessing he'll "bite the bullet" and do the "in frame" faced with the evidence that there's a 1 in 4 chance that the rest are damaged too. He's there, it's half way apart why pay labor costs a second, third or fourth time if he plays the odds, be cheaper in the long run to get it all done now. IMHO - I'd rather have Scott do the work then get stuck on the road & have to rely on "unknown" local mechanics or worse yet - truck stop mechanics!
Great workmanship and attention to detail. Good to see these 2T Detroits are still being looked after and kept running. Between yourselves you obviously have a wealth of knowledge. Keep up the good work. All the best from the UK.
Great video, liners and pistons have seen better days. Had a similar experience with my 4-53T but wasn't as lucky and broke the liner. Upgraded to a Silver Series now with 10,000 happy miles and runs sweet. Looking forward to part 2.:)
This GREAT. I'm scrambling to find a motor pullout for a WL and lo and behold your pulling the head with it in the bay!!!!!!! Can't wait to see you lift that head out. Kudo's for the owner to let you proceed!!!
That thing was running far better than it had any right to with that damage. Just goes to show, those old 2 strokes may not be the most powerful or efficient motors (at least by today's standards), but they'll keep chugging away when most other motors would have long since given up the ghost!
40 years ago, when I was a young man, I worked on a water well drilling rig with that engine, it was a V8 Detroit with the turbo, a TH-60 Ingersoll Rand rig. That engine turned the air compressor and hydraulics for the rig, and was the power plant that moved the thing as well. The owner of the company did not like it when we wanted to do oil changes etc, he wanted it out drilling...that engine was one of the most abused power plants I have ever been around and it just kept running, throttle pinned for 8-10 hours a day, screaming like crazy and drinking fuel at the rate of 125 gallons a day. But it ran, and ran, and ran. I have no idea when it finally gave up.
We’re all sorry to see the scuffed, damaged and cracked parts coming out of one of our favourite V8 Detroit Diesels. Our eyes all collectively twitched just like Squatch253 as we started to really see inside. Regrets for all the damage from Down Under BONBEACH Melbourne Victoria Australia.
If you hook your chain on each end of the rocker arm bolts the head will come on or off on the V8 angle. Good video, I don't miss the engine work on those tight buses!😬😁👌
My old Tandy TRS-80 model 102 would be right at home with that printer and it could read the codes with the proper connector. It's out lived so many other computers I've had over the years.
In the early 90s Via bus was pulling the 8v71s out of their mc9s and installing Delaney and Alf rebuilt 8v 92s at 450hp. Most of their trips were from Central California to Reno ,and they cut about an hour of the trip and just about doubled the mpg. 70 mph or better over Donner pass
Definitely needs a complete build if you don’t want more problems shortly down the road. Rig is too nice not to do the completely. I know it’s gonna cost but it will be worth it in the long run.
That looks like its been dusted to me. The DD tech that use to do our engines had a lifting jig that would bolt to the head one way would hold the head level, flip it over and would hold it at the correct angle for V block engines, small enough piece it could almost fit in your pocket. you need one.
Scott, I learned from watching Adrien on Stu’s channel that Detroits get different piston rings, depending on whether the engine has a turbo or not...is that the case with Jerry’s and why there were failures?
Dr. Scott, Dr. Scott..........paging Dr. Scott. Please report to the ER stat. Another Wanderlodge with a critical Double D. Dr. Scott please make sure Dr. Tyler can assist.
That turbo looked pretty new, and the wire pieces look like the ones that end up stuck in my shirt when I’m using a wire wheel😒 I feel bad for this guy
Yes it’s nice to be able to rebuild in frame. What had caused such a mess, could that be poor maintenance??? I’m sure there aren’t many miles on that coach
That engine is a mess. I would not even think about it. I would replace the the pistons and liners. The bearings too. I would just do an in frame on that engine. If he is going to keep that bus for a ling time it would be money well spent.
I heared the damage the moment it was going up the hill... It had all sorts of Worn Out noises... This does show how tough a Detroit Diesel is... It will get you there eventho the engine is good as gone... With engineparts in the oil..... I hope the owner decides for the best option an Overhaul by Bus Grease Monkey.
😳 Wow that's some ancient diagnosis stuff! Never seen you use that before? Must be after the really one ones and before the engine was really computer controlled?
Been badly overheated, that's the only thing that will crack liners and score cylinders that bad other side will look the same guaranteed. I'd pull the motor out to do it proper now.
The metal shavings you found in the inspection covers may be coming from the oil bath air cleaners if it has them the packing gets loose in the air cleaner and starts coming apart Had this problem on some equipment I use to work on .
I hate to say it, but it starting to look like an in-frame. As someone else said too much scoring & looks like it might have overheated at one time or another. If these 2 are bad how long before the other's go bad?? As someone else asked was the right oil used ?? Looks like a lot of turmoil ahead.
Back in the day when I worked in an engine shop, I'm pretty sure I saw the Old timer pull the whole mess out of there in a coach to do liners in every hole. He woulda been hollering if it was an in chassis .
No power forsure, if it was a none electronic engine she would smoke like a pig, the ecm balances fuel delivery to keep the egine some what noemal, thats why with those scorned liners you didn't see any smoke at idle
I wonder if the 39 historic "coolant temp too high" codes have something to do with it, then again I dunno the threshold for setting that code it could be programmed to set if goes 10 over operating temperature. I suppose the best way to know would be to check the blower for scoring.
Don't like the cavitation pitting on that last liner, plus it looks like the whole bank was running hot to score them all up like that. Bad thermostat on that bank?
@@nickpollay1681 Nice. I just found one on ebay. Hoping it works when it arrives. Is there anything special you have to do to make it talk to the 9000? Any special cables?