Detroit Lions Just Showed Us Their Biggest Problem 

I did see Goff throw one spiral, but only one.

There was at least 3 times that Jamo was wide open down the field and Goff never tried to throw to him.

The offensive play calling has been bad the last 4 games

I have been defending Goff this past 4 or 5 weeks….but I just can’t anymore. This was absolutely atrocious. Every ball was a wounded duck, I have seen more athleticism from a sloth, his accuracy has disappeared and his decision making rivals a gnat.

The Lions are disintegrating before our eyes.

Goff is the issue, especially outdoors. Balls were consistently thrown short or behind. A wobbling spiral is worse in the wind than a tight one.

The Lions are a draft or two away from a consistent contender. They have amassed 9 wins so far. Great. They still need a few pieces to compete with the top teams. O-line is a puzzle when one player is out. The secondary has second stringers starting. Pass rush is hit or miss.They may need a more creative QB going forward. Ben may have a job already in place. Shades of how Mc Vay viewed Goff in LA? You cant run plays if you don't have the athlete to execute. Lets see how this unfolds. I'm excited.

Exactly, Jamo is not a threat if you don’t throw it down field to him. Goff with gloves is a nonstarter

Can't hit Jamo unless he is 25 yards or less ... Never been overthrown yet this year. WHY? so, what to fear?

Its not ben Johnson its goff limitations and our defense is what it is but if our offense cant produce we are screwed.

Graded them an F all the way around

Glad to see you pinning this on Ben Johnson and Goff. Goff hasn't played well, except San Diego, since Baltimore game. Ben needs to be asked why he can't seem to get a #12 overall pick the ball

Crazy part is. In last four games. Bears. Packers. Saints. Bears. The lions have been outplayed for 80% of all that football played. That’s scary. They look like a first round exit at this point.

I'm a Chicago Bears fan and I saw this coming.I knew if the Bears scored first that would set the tone for the rest of the game.Besides every in Chicago know Jared Groff can't play outside in the elements..lol

I’ve been saying this from day 1. We had a true franchise guy (Stafford) and the Rams went and traded for him and gave up on a 26 year old. An offensive genius like McVay. They wanted to start an UDFA over Goff in the playoffs. We can’t pay him. He did all of this on the Rams. He limits your offense.

It's 75 Ben 25 Goff. This game was badly called. Look up top 10 longest in air passes in history. Goffs in there.

St Brown had the drops today

Sounds like a lot of Lions fans want to give Goff the “HOOK” !!!

To see the lions stop doing what was working on offense is crazy!

Get ride of goff.

Bring in Hendon Hooker. They could end up 9-8.

9-8 miss the playoffs, no worry only year 3 of 5. Next year last place in North, GB and Chic improve.. Lion fans excited for high draft choice. Campbell and Holmes get 5 year extension to restart new 5 year plan. I've been watching this crap since they traded Bobby Layne when I was 12. SOL

Been saying Goff needs to go for a while start hooker now

Doesn't matter who quarterbacks the offensive line is terrible pass blocking.

Upcoming schedule Denver probably going to be 7-6 At Minnesota. Going back to 1992, Detroit has won just 6 times in Minnesota At Dallas. A legit 9-3 Minnesota at home At home vs Minnesota is literally their best chance at a win coming up. This isn’t going to end well.

They bracket Amon Ra in the cold weather it’s automatic L

As a Detroit fan I'm so proud of how they're doing, I believe they have so much potential and sometimes they do great but these last weeks made me realize that they have to step up their game. The first half of the season they only had 2 losses and were doing perfectly fine but this second half they have lost easy games and showed how much they are flawed. Overall I think they could 100% fix their problems these last games, ggs to the Chicago fans out there, you had us beat have a great day.

Ive been thinking of this for weeks now but EVERYONE keeps saying our D is horrible. Our D kept us in it till we had them 4th n 13 then we fumble I'll say it again our O is overrated as well as Ben Johnson RUN THE DAMN BALL

Goff is not future QB in Detroit. He is absolutely trush.

The offense goes cold "SOMETIMES"? The offense has gone cold every game since the bye ...yet ALL the blame keeps landing at A.G.'s feet

This is what I've been saying was isn't Jamo getting the ball

Goff is playing like he's hiding an injury or something. No tight spirals, no deep ball passes

Ben has a problem trying to force a mismatch with 3 tight ends. Need to stop over thinking plays and use what works

Goff got to go Brad Holmes needs get a damn QB!!!

Glenn is a problem. Goff is super average in a ton of aspects. We also need to add D lineman. We missed at the trade deadline. I don't know if we have a better option, but Goff is playing for his future in Detroit these next 4 games.

I totally agree every basic level fan blames the defense so much but the offense has had pitiful games , we understand the offense is top whatever , a top offense in the league shouldn’t ever be that cold

Im not sure about us even winning the division anymore the way we played was Sol like smh

Biggest problem is Aaron Glen. When your team cant stop anybody the offense feels a lot of pressure.

I remember that season when the Lions began the season 5-0 and looked like world beaters. They didn't win but one or two games the rest of the season and finished dead last. Oh, this Lions team brings back such good memories.

Honestly the thing I noticed a lot one of the worst plays we continue to do is Goff on a roll out trying to throw while on the run , it’s incomplete or a possible interception … Goffs mobility will continue to limit us … top 5 QBs all are mobile ( Mahomes , Allen , Herbert , Burrow , Lamar , Hurts , Dak , etc ) all way more athletic and tiers above us

i’m a packers fan and for those saying get rid of goff who’s a better option i’ll wait

Goff isn't a leader... He relies too heavily on the voice in his helmet... Great QBs adapt and adjust... Change tempo and relentlessly keep defenses on their heels... I have yet to see an audible or adjustment on the OLine... Goff focuses solely on his number one receiver... Throws aren't confident and sometimes nearly picked off... Certainly not worth close to 40 million a year ...

When the lights get bright Goff's light goes out

Chris said it perfect. The defense isnt terrible. They just aren't good enough to pick up when the offense plays this bad. And yes Craig. Goff isnt good enough to do what Ben wants

I’m not one to jump ship and I’m not expecting a perfect season good teams will lose but goff has shown us why Sean mcvay and the rams moved on from him AFTER A SUPERBOWL APPEARANCE they seen that he doesn’t have that dog in him and he can’t perform if even the tiniest amount of pressure is around him sorry to say but Goff cannot lead a team

We need to draft a center first and play him at guard if we need to for a bit

Stop going for it on 4th on the OPPOSITE SIDE of the feild!!!

Guys, you both know that defense wins championships! But our offense seems to lack focus! Ben Johnson needs to go to basics so Golf can do what is best! I have watched the clown show and regardless of the talent we can’t close the deal! For the Denver game bench the OC and DC and have some other coach!

I can’t disagree with you guy about anything that you mentioned today but the officiating today was absolutely horrible. However, I wonder what happened to the long passing game gone? I wonder if Goff is playing hurt? He has not played well since the bi-week. This shows me that we don’t sign Goff to any type of extension contract. I wonder why they haven’t told him to sit and play Bridgewater to get a spark.

Secondary is totally bad, bewildered by Justin Fields magic in 2 games. Ranked 21st in the NFL yards allowed, ranked 30th in 2022. This team is not ready for prime time.

It’s been 3 hours since the game and I still have no idea what that was that I watched.

Some problems???? Are you kidding... some problems??

Goff is a damn good quarterback, everyone goes through slumps , what matters is how they do in the playoffs.

These 3rd qrts are getting ridiculous.. are they taking naps at halftime or something?

Goff has ZERO pocket presence or mobility. Offense is getting too predictable. Everyone is catching on to the dink and dunks. Also can we please put Jameson on kick returns. I’m tired of seeing Craig Reynolds

It's actually nice to see people criticizing Goff finally. People always just said how I was a negative SOL fan but he's been bad for maybe 4 weeks now.

Problems exsposed?? It's right infront of you! The D-Line has never been a dominating force! Thats on Brad. The O-Line had been, but has been taped together stringing it along for 2 years, due to injuries. It's never been corrected, your NOW seeing what happens when you egnor a problem, again, Brad's failure.

Everybody here is shitting on Goff. Why? He's exactly who we thought he was. When he is given enough time to make proper reads and a good run game, he can run an offense. When he is pressured every other play, and hit every 4th, he makes bad decisions and doesn't play well. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS GUY, EVERYBODY KNEW HE WAS THIS GUY. If you're expecting him to SUDDENLY become Patrick Mahomes after LA paid the farm to get rid of the guy, you're an idiot. If you want to win with him, you have to protect him well.

Why Lions lost and will end up 9-8: 4 Sacks Allowed 4 Punts 8 Penalties 1 Fumble 2 Interceptions

I remember Sean McVay making this comment about the trade for Stafford- It's going to be nice to have a quarterback that allows you to use the whole playbook. Goff is the problem. That's why they traded Goff for Stafford and threw in two first and a third round pick.

I didn’t wanna say nothing but does anyone notice that since the offense changed from pounding with Montgomery to trying for explosive plays with Gibbs more often the offense has been rly shaky??

Amazing goff was,no 1pick in draft he reminds me of cade McNamara a littel bigger but same,player no athletic abilty no arm talent but accurate most of time

I'm concerned, he never call screens or take shots down the field to loosen the middle up. He continues to force the middle.. Lions setting up the offensive weapons for Hooker!!!!

The lions showed us that AG has a huge ego that is causing problems with the players and needs to go away.... Fire AG today. Denver & Dallas , Vikings will win if AG is still on the team.

We can't re-sign Goff, he's to expensive for what he is. Open up the competition at QB in training camp and prey Hooker wins job. He's accurate, mobile, he can throw the long ball and he's way less expensive which would allow us to sign our own free agents and some others.

What Goff have you been watching!? He's terrible, he hasn't thrown a good tight spiral in weeks! He gives the recievers absolutely no chance for any RAC yards he doesn't throw to the obviously open receiver his choices are terrible.

its simple n opposing defensive coordinator are starting to get it, stop st.brown, do not let him beat you!! Goff is a rythm QB n he must doink n dink 6,7 yd passes n let receivers make plays...if you put him in 2nd n 7,8 yds then Goff is a terrible QB ,wobbly passes, not mobile at all, and loses ball wen pressured...BEN N GOFF= monty Williams..jaden ivey= jamo lol

Bad play calling. Poor execution. No pocket presence. The refs were bad but that always happens. Goff cannot handle pressure. Fields tore us up again. I called this last week. All the weaknesses are showing up at the wrong time. We are a turnover machine. Ben Johnson isn’t using the weapons. Combination of these factors. I stated last week defense wins championships. If we were good on defense it covers up some of the weaknesses on offense. We don’t have that this year. I also said we might not even win our division the way we are now playing. We could be stuck at nine wins. Dallas is a loss. The Broncos aren’t a lock. Then we have the Vikings with their backup but mobile quarterback. We suck at controlling mobile quarterbacks. It’s looking bleak for the Lions. But hey are we surprised. We get teased thinking things are different only to be slapped back into the reality that we just aren’t that good again and waste whatever offensive talent we have just like we did when Barry Sanders played for the Lions. Goff isn’t good enough the way he holds the ball too long. With no mobility he’s a sitting duck and then the mistakes come. Too many big plays against the defense. Same old story.

People absolutely losing their 💩 Look at teams like the Chiefs and Bills, they have records considerably worse than ours. We are 9-4. Too much recency bias going on regarding Goff imo. Im not even a huge fan of his but hes the guy atm so he gets my support until he isnt🤷‍♂️ Can't even take people seriously if they suggest benching him for Teddy or worse still Hendon

You guys are hilarious. Johnson goes from a genius to a bum in the course of one week. The O-line was out of sync with Ragnow out and we saw more drops today than we have all season. I was expecting the Bears to play a good game. Give them a little ctedit.

I've never heard you all go so hard on how bad we were. I agree, Jared Goff was horrible. Why believe balls. The deep shot to Jamo with short by 5 yards. Today the offense lost this game. The defense is still horrible, Aaron Glenn needs to go but today Ben Johnson may have cost himself a head coaching job.

I say we play H. Hooker part of the game and get him some play time. Goff and him could tag team. Might give the offense a good spark.

ride this season out with Goff. No extension. open training camp and either move another QB up, whoever is the BEST on the field. It is not Goff's spot to lose

Your a little concerned now, i not a believer just waiting for this offense is sliding. Its not the sol, its Goff screwing everything straight up.

Brad Holmes our biggest problem his drafting trading and Free agents

The issue is a combination of things, but ultimately on BJ/MCDC/BH here. Goff rushes his throws and the ball comes out a lame duck (should be fixed with coaching). Goff can throw a deep ball and to the sidelines (he just can't under pressure, or without a throwing lane) which can be fixed with coaching. They have a running back that was averaging 7 yards per carry, but they decide to keep throwing it (can be fixed with coaching). Sure, Goff is limited, but we all saw that when things are right for him, he can succeed. That's on coaching.

What do you mean never seen a Ben Johnson perform that badly, look at the Ravens game, the offense is just not clicking lately

I think yall next quarterback play in your state. His name is JJ Mccarthy

Bad coaching both sides of the ball. Bad qb Bad oline bad wr/te drops. Bad defense today, but they kept us in the game this week

The Lions offense has a problem with a big play threat. All passes seem to be directed towards the areas with defensive coverage.

We don't have a chance in the playoffs with Goff as the QB. Goff is too stiff in that pocket, we need a Moblie QB like all the real contenders.

Golf have no arm strength to throw deep, he has no athleticism can’t make plays on his feet, golf is really getting exsposed

You are absolutely right. I don't think Goff's arm is strong enough to get Jamo the ball. He throws wobbly passes when he has to go deep. No athletism at all if he was mobile it would cut back on some of those four and outs.

Whats sad is ya have a number 22 Bob Hayes who we have in Jameo and ya can't put a long ball up for him to run underneath the ball told ya once to start using him more the more ya go to him will open it up for others this should of never happened after we taken lead should of been no looking back from that point ya can't put this on defense all though they let acouple get by are offence couldn't keep are defense off the field.

Campbell is a bad play caller so is Goff yeah super bowl muffin hype lions your bouncing out first game of playoffs if you make it as the cheap chump div in your in

Goff throwing off his back foot not stepping up throwing the ball he cant throw it deep because of goff weak arm jamo going to waste??

They never throw deep. Bring back Scott Linehan.

I don’t see a win the rest of the way out but at least it’ll be another winning season 9-8 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

Henderson will get jamo the dam ball goff aint even trying!! Jamo going too waste

when as the last time we threw deep to try and loosen up the defense? That offense was not even as good as Barry run left, Barry run right, Barry run straight, punt.

Hi I’m Jared Goof, do you have any jobs here at Taco Bell?

I see open competition between Goff and Hooker.in training camp.

Goff makes your offense very predictable. Teams don t really need to cover deep .no one is afraid of a scramble stop the run cover the short middle game over

Weird way to get Ben Johnson to stay with the Lions next year...but ok.

Is it time to start thinking that Hendon Hooker is closer to being QB1 next than Goff?

Is it safe to say that the Lions were overrated from the start of this season🤔? I know they are leaps and bounds better than the past few seasons but realistically this team looks way way off from the team that started this year and finished last year and to think of that being so with the team being better imo than what finished last year🤷. Too early to say SOL?

Not a hater and it is not my money to spend but come on that was not a 40 to 50 mil qb performance let alone a 30 something per annum. More money for rest of team. Go Lions!

Goff doesn’t play well in Chicago and in the cold.

Maybe if the offense keeps being bad, Ben Johnson will stay?

seems like the other teams have adjusted to our offense and we have made to changes to it.