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Deus Ex Machina Explained 

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The main character is trapped. There’s no way out. They are surely doomed. The movie is over. Then all of a sudden, an inconceivable solution appears from out of the blue. This is what is referred to as a deus ex machina and it is one of the most frowned upon tropes in filmmaking.
Coined during Ancient Greek theatre, deus ex machina translates to “god from the machine.” This refers to a mechanical device that the Greeks would use to lower actors playing gods onto the stage. These gods often served as a plot device to help the characters out of a sticky situation. Since then, this term has been applied to any cheap, improbable solution in film, theatre, or literature.
Think about the eagles in The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King or the T-rex that saves the day at the end of Jurassic Park. These unlikely heroes seem to come out of nowhere, as if delivered by the gods themselves.
The term deus ex machina is usually used derogatorily to reference a lazy solution to a conflict within the narrative. It’s like an escape hatch for the filmmakers when they write themselves into a corner-but it’s also a solution that usually undermines the rest of the story in the process. So why exactly is this device problematic? Let’s find out.
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@Vesnicie
@Vesnicie 5 лет назад
The best deus ex machina ever is when the animator suddenly dies in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, letting them escape the cave monster.
@RacinZilla003
@RacinZilla003 5 лет назад
*Animators suddenly died for S8E3
@davoman5781
@davoman5781 5 лет назад
Yes that is a valid example. Unlike Jurassic park where we saw the T-REX previously and knew he was loose on the park.
@luke2183
@luke2183 5 лет назад
My sides
@thomaszampino6369
@thomaszampino6369 5 лет назад
God tier comment
@frydsaman6857
@frydsaman6857 5 лет назад
wasn't that animator terry gilliam?
@sanny8716
@sanny8716 5 лет назад
People keep talking like Deus Ex Machina = lazy writing Lazy usage of Deus Ex Machina is lazy writing.
@jeffspicoli6172
@jeffspicoli6172 4 года назад
The God in the Machine!
@uncannyvalley2350
@uncannyvalley2350 4 года назад
Life itself is deus ex
@rusted8444
@rusted8444 4 года назад
Same difference
@ghostofdeath663
@ghostofdeath663 4 года назад
It kinda is look at joker from dc comics the writers use him as a plot device in MOST of the stories
@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE
@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE 4 года назад
@@rusted8444 No. If a "Deux Ex Machina" is hinted at or set up, its not lazy writing. The only example I can think of is everyone coming back in Endgame, it's a Deux Ex Machina moment that was set up and makes complete sense. Its good writing, not lazy writing
@myatnoemaung2937
@myatnoemaung2937 5 лет назад
Here after Arya shanked the Night King and save everyone
@TheRatzor
@TheRatzor 5 лет назад
me too lol
@majed8192
@majed8192 5 лет назад
A strong example of Deus Ex Machina there was no foreshadowing whatsoever except that Arya exists basically
@rolesto327
@rolesto327 5 лет назад
majed8192 the red women foreshadows it by saying she will kill someone with blue eyes
@arijeetdatta25596387
@arijeetdatta25596387 5 лет назад
Same here. But Jurassic park is not deux ex machina
@Rysix19
@Rysix19 5 лет назад
@@majed8192 there was tho
@mizchief7305
@mizchief7305 5 лет назад
damn, i wish deus ex machina happend to me when i was taking an exam...... but all that happened was a foreshadow of my incoming failing grades....
@cormac5253
@cormac5253 5 лет назад
Damn hard luck
@freezethefbi4594
@freezethefbi4594 4 года назад
GER: did you say something?
@FireN2k9
@FireN2k9 4 года назад
Just dont be afraid, you can do anything what you really want. If it isn't math, its ok.
@blueeyeschaosmaxdragon8186
@blueeyeschaosmaxdragon8186 4 года назад
@@freezethefbi4594 i got that reference
@12r1-u3g
@12r1-u3g 5 лет назад
sometimes Deux ex machina is justified in writing, especially if u want to show hope out of nowhere. like lotr, the hope theme is pretty strong there
@gamble777888
@gamble777888 5 лет назад
LOTR is principally a symbolic story so Deus Ex Machina, or basically, acts of Gods are part of its central themes. It is still strictly an example of Deus Ex Machina... just that it doesn't ruin the story in that particular case.
@jaredhenry3672
@jaredhenry3672 3 года назад
@@gamble777888 this is something that people always talk about when crtisizing lotr, but it's always been stated that the eagles fear the dark lord. Like any other race they protect their own, so when they say all races coming together they joined to at least bale them out.
@chaoscapricorn13
@chaoscapricorn13 2 года назад
@@jaredhenry3672 except they really don't but are actual messengers of manwe the chief god of arda
@nicholasgiannakopoulos7568
@nicholasgiannakopoulos7568 5 лет назад
The term first used in the Ancient Greek Theater where the unsoluble situations got solved by divine intervention. The god (Deus in Latin ) presented himself or herself to the actors flying above their heads. The flying was operated by people behind the scene with a machine (ex Machina in Latin).
@quincy9908
@quincy9908 4 года назад
Thank you I wondered what the word came from
@tuckerjohnny9351
@tuckerjohnny9351 10 месяцев назад
It's like the opposite of ironic and divine intervention.
@rogueradar665
@rogueradar665 4 года назад
All this time I thought everyone was referring to some kind of sci-fi movie title
@ssquid_
@ssquid_ 3 года назад
Same. I was a dumb kid
@swaggerdagger8976
@swaggerdagger8976 3 года назад
I mean there's a game series called Deus Ex so close enough
@shivam7156
@shivam7156 3 года назад
Me too
@Robert-sh4dv
@Robert-sh4dv 3 года назад
I’m so high and knowing Deus ex machine isn’t some awesome anime movie with a cool space battle in the style of shin Godzilla’s gigs blast scene, all that, makes me so sad
@phillower8806
@phillower8806 5 лет назад
Needed an explanation for why the latest episode of Got sucked so bad. Thx
@kayzar293
@kayzar293 5 лет назад
Didnt get any better did it? Just finished episode 4
@plisskenetic
@plisskenetic 5 лет назад
Phil Lower Hahaha this doesn’t count. U sure don’t understand the video nor Arya’s characterization cos of your low intelligence. So STUPID! Whine all I want ya twat!
@littleman787
@littleman787 5 лет назад
@@plisskenetic yeah you sound really smart
@grantburrell
@grantburrell 5 лет назад
The show and primarily the books has spoken about Arya as being as quiet as a cat, she is an Assassin and made no noise when she moved, this was displayed in the very same fucking episode when the whytes couldn't hear her moving about but could hear blood cropping onto the floor plus there was foreshadowing from Melisandre even though it was a retcon. The look Bran gives her when she takes the cats paw from him which was so over acted by Bran's actor that it was painfully obvious that him giving her that dagger had a deeper meaning. If you are thinking it will go down different in the books i wouldn't get my hopes up. Plus not once does the prophecy mention that Azor Ahai will kill the NK.
@littleman787
@littleman787 5 лет назад
Pirate King ! That was HER blood dripping you absolute moron, so she wasn’t as deathly quiet as you make out. The blood dripping is the fucking problem, they’re so sensitive to noise that they can hear that, and she almost gets caught by a group of like 6 wights, but later she can sneak through an entire army PLUS the white walkers? Fuck outta here you absolute moron
@arthurmorel1943
@arthurmorel1943 5 лет назад
Arya Stark
@arthurmorel1943
@arthurmorel1943 5 лет назад
@Rhaego Targaryen Amen.
@volosh67gayo49
@volosh67gayo49 5 лет назад
The real deus is melisandre
@ahmedharris7148
@ahmedharris7148 5 лет назад
Deus Ex Arya
@grantburrell
@grantburrell 5 лет назад
nope
@doultreedesigns2998
@doultreedesigns2998 5 лет назад
Inaccurate. Arya was set up to arrive in that area.
@mattbritzius570
@mattbritzius570 5 лет назад
The eagles aren't Deus Ex Machina. Fight me.
@IgnorancEnArrogance
@IgnorancEnArrogance 5 лет назад
Even if the eagles didn't come, and most of the people in that battle died, they still would've have provided enough of a distraction for frodo to destroy the ring and cause the floor to collapse below the rest sauron's army. I don't think the wyverns appearing was a totally unsolvable problem that would have ruined the fellowship, as they were putting up a pretty damn good fight as it was. The rest of the fellowship was ready to give their lives in that battle for frodo anyways. Frankly I think it was a lazy example!
@dyslxeic
@dyslxeic 5 лет назад
No they are a 70's rock band.
@FilmVersionSoundtracks
@FilmVersionSoundtracks 5 лет назад
So how did they know to come in that exact moment on those exact places and not earlier? Why was it so convenient? Not to mention the fact that the earth crumbled only beneath the orcs in the perfect shape they were in surrounding the humans so the humans would live. This is beyond laughable for such a "good" considered movie like LOTR:TROTK. also, why did the Eagles not carried Frodo till mount Doom and back and avoid all the stupid death and blood shed?... ah well... (sigh)
@zeroskaterz92
@zeroskaterz92 5 лет назад
@@FilmVersionSoundtracks The eagles themselves are intelligent beings and has been helping Gandalf before. Why did the eagles didn't carry Frodo all the way to Mt. Doom? It's like you purposely ignore that there's a fucking All-Seeing Eye watching over for some reason.
@maxdavis897
@maxdavis897 5 лет назад
Francisco Méndez Grajales also if the eagles couldn’t beat the wyverns then they would have completely lost also many humans probably still died in the floor crumbling
@lyledeyounges1276
@lyledeyounges1276 5 лет назад
If there's a place for deus ex machina, it's in fantasy. "Divine intervention" in fantastic tales has little to do with "lazy writing"... in most cases, that is! It can be like the manifestation of the hope of the characters, or of the audience - and it is not used as often as you and many others seem to think. It has become quite a popular term to throw around, in a dismissive way, as if it translates into "bad quality" or something.
@LordMichaelRahl
@LordMichaelRahl 5 лет назад
Eagles = Poor example of Deus Ex Machina
@davoman5781
@davoman5781 5 лет назад
@Francisco Méndez Grajales Because they are shown to have existed and also to have rescued a previous character in the books. We also know Gandalf, who could contact them, would have been looking out to help Frodo and Sam and he would have known where they are and where to send the Eagles.
@calebfleming123
@calebfleming123 5 лет назад
LordMichaelRahl People forget too that Mordor had hundreds of fell beasts and hundreds of thousands of orcs. Its not as simple as carrying Frodo on an eagle to mount doom.
@themobiusquadron
@themobiusquadron 5 лет назад
Yeah... Not only that, they simply delayed the ringwraith as they were still losing the battle. Deus ex would have been the eagles flying toward mount doom With the ring at the last minute. Of course the book covers the eagles didn't want to get involved plus the eagles by themselves would have been easy target. If anything the moth reference was a good foreshadowing for the audience at that moment...
@HAL-dm1eh
@HAL-dm1eh 5 лет назад
Batman having an invention to get him literally out of every situation was a meme decades before the internet was born. It's very clear this was on purpose.
@billyb6001
@billyb6001 5 лет назад
The T rex showing up in Jarrasic park was great.
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 4 года назад
Yep, I think it isn't even a deus ex machina effect, because what happens there is exactly what people expect from that movie, as showing dino fights is all the JP movies are about.
@bannerlee9590
@bannerlee9590 3 года назад
True. The point behind Jurassic Park was to show off how uncontrollable Nature is. One minute, nature could help you, the next, it’s working against you.
@mikewazowski350
@mikewazowski350 3 года назад
@A Nayak Kudos. The ending of Jurassic Park is ridiculous.
@Immafraid
@Immafraid 2 года назад
@A Nayak In the heat of the moment you wouldn't notice the Tyrannosaurus either, just like the raptors and people didn't, if you want to apply logic to a movie for the sake of calling it ridiculous. Also, are you assuming that Rexy couldn't stalk more quietly if she wanted to? Have you ever snuck downstairs to get pringles as a kid at 12:30 without waking up your dad? At least we can clearly see where she entered the building behind her.
@firstnamelastname7113
@firstnamelastname7113 5 лет назад
The Jurassic world one wasn’t Deus ex Machina. Something happened like that earlier with a shark
@yusefkalam7186
@yusefkalam7186 4 года назад
Megaolodon
@willforrest-king
@willforrest-king 4 года назад
@@yusefkalam7186 Mosasaurus
@jurelkirklandfilms2510
@jurelkirklandfilms2510 3 года назад
Exactly. Plus they were winning the fight, so that doesn’t even make sense.
@mopslikvonstein
@mopslikvonstein 6 лет назад
Many of the examples you give aren't really deus ex machina because they don't come completely out of nowhere. For example, the eagles were nicely set up in The Fellowship of the Ring when we saw Gandalf could use a moth to summon the eagles. It's not like a previously unmentioned eagle suddenly appeared out of nowhere in The Return of the King. Similarly, in Jurassic Park it's not like a T-Rex just suddenly appears for the first time in the climax to save the day. The audience knows there's a T-Rex roaming the area. (Also the aquatic dino was also set up in an earlier scene in Jurassic World. It was shown killing in that exact same way.)
@OlafLesniak
@OlafLesniak 6 лет назад
mopslikvonstein I agree about Jurassic World, but there rest of what you say is not true. The idea of Deus Ex Machina is that you sometimes set up earlier things but they come out of nowhere with no given explanation. T-Rex comes out of nowhere despite being set-up. Some goes the Eagles. I think the mistake a lot of people are making is calling all Deus Ex Machina bad. That shouldn't be the case because the one Jurassic Park just feels so effective.
@talsarig5058
@talsarig5058 6 лет назад
Actually seeing them in the first film is what makes them such a huge Ex Machina in the third one. In the first film, it takes Gandalf days until he catches a moth and then it takes at least a few more hours until the eagle arrives to save him. In the third one he is seeing the danger, a random moth flies next to him and the eagles arrive in a matter of seconds. At the very least it means that the Eagles have new superpowers of teleportation and the entire setup that the moth needs to take Gandalf request to the eagles is just thrown a side for a cheap moment of excitement.
@jtaylordoss9633
@jtaylordoss9633 6 лет назад
Tal Sarig I think it was the reverse situation in LOTR, initially Gandalf contacted the Eagles, but then the Eagles contacted him, perhaps the moth was actually delivering their message to him.
@WillemoesJ
@WillemoesJ 5 лет назад
The Eagles are the ultimate bail out ticket, but they never actually I dunno fly Frodo to mount doom and just throw in the ring. No no eagles are proud creatures that only appear when you're completely out of options. I honestly think Peter Jackson eventually gave up and ended up making a parody out of them in the first hobbit film. It's also something that makes LOTR and the hobbit feel like a nice fantasy movie, but that's just my opinion.
@ynog0978
@ynog0978 5 лет назад
Wow, I still don't get it
@blueberrymcphuckerson9821
@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 5 лет назад
Yeah, I gotta agree with some of the commentators here: you seem to not know exactly what a Deus Ex Machina is. A Deus Ex Machina is a totally-unexpected spontaneous solution that never had any set-up nor fits the environment of the setting of the problem. A T-Rex established to be roaming around and eating meatier competitive raptors over harmless humans is not Deus Ex Machina. A T-Rex being lured from his cage to fight another equally-size predator in a Dinosaur-themed zoo is not a Deus Ex Machina (would a roaming lion still focus on hunting meerkats when another roaming enemy lion is in the same area?). Aquatic predators like the Mosasaurus would strikingly beached itself to snatch prey on the shoreline: you can watch videos of Crocodiles and Killer Whales (similar anatomy) doing this. Half-Baked established he bought the ashes of Jerry Garcia before he used it. It's a comedy film where it's been established that light magical shit happens. FFS, they sold weed that makes people literally fly and they flew over the city earlier in the film.
@matthewleggett5929
@matthewleggett5929 3 года назад
The Harry Potter one was foreshadowed tho, when dumbledore says hogwarts will always help those who ask for it so
@ThatGameGuyy
@ThatGameGuyy 5 лет назад
Sometimes, like In the case of Jurassic park, the occurrence isn’t so much “lazy writing” as it is a thematic choice. The abrupt entrance of the tyrannosaur is meant to convey that as perilous as the raptors seem, they remain prey for perils even greater. Nor are the eagles to be frank, sure they’re convenient, but they’re hardly baseless. They’re an Allie of Gandalf’s just like men of Rohan or of Gondor. This video seems be a product of the very thing you’re accusing these movies of, lazy writing. After reading some of the comments, it seems I’m not alone in this objection.
@Frito_Pendejo
@Frito_Pendejo Год назад
Replying to this 3yo comment to add that the only reason the eagles didn't come to Mordor earlier (and drop the ring in, lol) is because it was guarded by Sauron and the Ringwraiths until that very moment and would have been too obvious. People seem to forget that. And, the eagles had plenty of foreshadowing to boot. Deus Ex Machina can be awesome, or it can be lame as hell. Just depends on execution.
@elsalaiho1699
@elsalaiho1699 5 лет назад
Okay but in LOTR the Eagles are literally an intelligent Good group of people all by themselves, and have during the history of the world taken part in several battles im the side of the good guys. At least in LOTR they weren't sent by The Actual Gods Themselves. I mean, I know the movies pretty much erased the fact that they weren't just dumb animals but actually intelligent and capable of making desicions by themselves, but they are. And they are good. And they didn't have an excuse like "But we're not as strong as we used to be" like the elves, so obviously they take part in that battle. I mean, it's quite literally about the fate of the whole Middle-Earth
@nrconleynrc
@nrconleynrc 5 лет назад
Actually they were sent by God's sometimes, but so was Gandalf.
@sulphuric_glue4468
@sulphuric_glue4468 5 лет назад
The Eagles do not possess free will as they were not created directly by Eru Ilúvatar (God) and so do not possess the Flame Imperishable/Secret Fire (free will). As such the Eagles are puppets of Eru. The Maiar (wizards, e.g. Gandalf) are servants of God as well, but they possess free will, which is why Saruman was able to defect to Sauron. The Eagles, and Gandalf, were literally sent by God. There is a grander story behind LOTR, where it is basically God (Eru) against the devil (Morgoth and his servant Sauron). Eru was generally unwilling to intervene because, regardless of how much he hated what was going on, he was not willing to interfere with free will, however he sent Gandalf to guide the fellowship and at the climactic moment he sent the Eagles.
@nrconleynrc
@nrconleynrc 5 лет назад
@@sulphuric_glue4468 The Great Eagles were brought into being by Manwe. Gandalf was also a Maiar in service of Manwe, who while chief of the Valar on Arda, was distinct from Eru. Manwe could be said to be a Michael allegory I guess. Tolkien wasn't generally in favor of direct allegory though.
@sulphuric_glue4468
@sulphuric_glue4468 5 лет назад
@@nrconleynrc Thanks for the correction, I didn't know the specifics, although you could argue that they're ultimately all servants of Eru so he's really the one in charge. Tolkien didn't like direct allegory but the theology is obviously heavily inspired by Christianity, and Tolkien described it as an expressly Catholic work, so to say that Manwe is essentially St. Michael is not incorrect
@nrconleynrc
@nrconleynrc 5 лет назад
@@sulphuric_glue4468 true. He didn't seem to mind when allegory was the result, but not the goal. He and CS Lewis argued about it apparently. You can certainly read Catholicism into the Silmarilion, but I think Gnosticism a closer match. But he was influenced by many traditions, even pagan.
@AdhiHargo
@AdhiHargo 6 лет назад
Jurassic World's Mosasaurus was shown earlier in the film! Its location was even quite clearly mapped-out during the show (and mayhem afterwards), so that when they inch closer to the fenced lagoon, you kinda half expected it to appear.
@Blown4banger
@Blown4banger 5 лет назад
Should be the title for S8E3 of Game of Thrones.
@arthurmorel1943
@arthurmorel1943 5 лет назад
Haha I hear you. Not even the most highly trained assassin would be able to run past hundreds of wights and about 12 White Walkers. The only path to Bran was literally blocked by 12 White Walkers but Arya somehow someway got through (Deus Ex Machina)
@jackdaws7125
@jackdaws7125 5 лет назад
At least it had some sort of foreshadowing: Melissandre’s prophecy, Bran giving her that valyrian knife she used, Arya sneaking up on jon at that same place while he was under the same tree and him then asking how she did it, etc. Not the best, not the worst
@BruceWayne-fp3ul
@BruceWayne-fp3ul 5 лет назад
@Joako González you didnt see it happen on screen so it must have been teleportation? Yeah cause that makes sense.
@gamingwithblueboy4563
@gamingwithblueboy4563 3 года назад
I’m here after hearing this from Rick and morty season five trailers so nice cool!
@ThePainkillerHun
@ThePainkillerHun 6 лет назад
You should also do a video on why deus ex machina was meaningful in the greek epos, the genre where it was born. I think Tolkien, for example, consciously used this archetype.
@connor883
@connor883 5 лет назад
LOTR trilogy is amazing and I don't care what anyone else says
@muhammedberkonder7802
@muhammedberkonder7802 5 лет назад
This is the only thing i am bigoted about. Even the Tolkien himself can't convince me otherwise.
@catoboyproductions7098
@catoboyproductions7098 4 года назад
Its the best trilogy/movie of all time XD
@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE
@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE 4 года назад
@@catoboyproductions7098 Back to the future better
@catoboyproductions7098
@catoboyproductions7098 4 года назад
@@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE I do disagree but oh my gosh I Do Love Back to the Future a lot. Both amazing trilogies and there is nothing wrong with liking that one more than the one that I like more cuz of their godliness.
@GOvindXOXO
@GOvindXOXO 5 лет назад
Learnt these 2 new phrases, thanks to episode 3. 1) Mary Sue 2) Deux ex machina
@bangjoeofficial
@bangjoeofficial 5 лет назад
You must not have learned what Mary Sue meant because there is no instance of that in Game of Thrones.
@bangjoeofficial
@bangjoeofficial 5 лет назад
@Here's my card explain who is a mary sue character in Game of Thrones.
@csebeschen
@csebeschen 5 лет назад
Arya is not really a Mary Sue, she just has very thick plot armor and teleportation powers. A real Mary Sue would be Rey, the worst example of how to write a female character
@davoman5781
@davoman5781 5 лет назад
@@csebeschen No Rey is a Paragon. Mary Sue only exists in fanfiction
@davoman5781
@davoman5781 5 лет назад
@Here's my card So how does that make her a Mary Sue? None of what you say has anything to do with the concept. You need to actually understand the concept of Mary Sue before attempting to use a phrase that's only come popular since TLJ because of one initial tweet.
@inkno701
@inkno701 6 лет назад
Thanks for all the great videos! Fun fact about Jim Brewer in Half Baked, the shot at 2:42 is the only time he was actually high on camera in the entire film. He kept struggling to get thru it so you can see him celebrating that he got it right as he walks out of frame.
@horkrat
@horkrat 5 лет назад
Actual good examples of deus ex machina, from a WatchMojo (!) video: - War of the Worlds (aliens just get sick and die) - Wizard of Oz (water miraculously kills the wicked witch and resolves all conflict) - Pacific Rim (all is lost but they have a sword suddenly) - Matrix Revolutions (talks to robot god who agrees to amicably end the Matrix series) - Saving Private Ryan (Allied Forces ex machina) - Avatar (the planet just decides to fight back)
@Radimkiller
@Radimkiller 5 лет назад
This. Those are actual DEM.
@davoman5781
@davoman5781 5 лет назад
@@Radimkiller Ooo War of the Worlds is very on the line. It appears an obvious example however we know the bacteria would have always been there so its not as though it was a secret weapon we know nothing about. They always existed, we know how introducing germs into civilisations that have no immunity can be devastating (Look at what happened to the Aztecs). The beauty of War of the Worlds as a twist is we never thought about it as a possible ending. And yet of course it is a possibility.
@martinpatella3986
@martinpatella3986 5 лет назад
well the thing with the planet in avatar is lowkey hinted at during most of the movie, that everything is conected and all.
@dwgwnr1969
@dwgwnr1969 3 года назад
Who's here from Rick and morty season 5 trailer #3 ?
@thatcoolrussian
@thatcoolrussian 6 лет назад
You saying RotK had lazy screenwriting?
@dingo9696
@dingo9696 5 лет назад
It did lol
@johnrambo5795
@johnrambo5795 5 лет назад
@@dingo9696 perhaps. But it's still a great movie so I couldn't care less about lazy writing
@dingo9696
@dingo9696 5 лет назад
@@johnrambo5795 its a great movie but there are some dumb moments that should have been done differently
@IgnorancEnArrogance
@IgnorancEnArrogance 5 лет назад
Even if the eagles didn't come, and most of the people in that battle died, they still would've have provided enough of a distraction for frodo to destroy the ring and cause the floor to collapse below the rest sauron's army. I don't think the wyverns appearing was a totally unsolvable problem that would have ruined the fellowship, as they were putting up a pretty damn good fight as it was. The rest of the fellowship was ready to give their lives in that battle for frodo anyways. Frankly I think it was a lazy example!
@dingo9696
@dingo9696 5 лет назад
@@IgnorancEnArrogance The eagles are a great example of lazy writing in lotr. Why did they show up at the last minute? Why werent they utilized in other crucial moments, or for transportation? Same goes for the army of the dead. In the films, the AOTD were unkillable. Why didnt aragorn tell them that their oath would be forgiven after the ring was destroyed? They could have defeated mordor easily with their help.
@observeandreport2011
@observeandreport2011 3 года назад
Here after Rick & Morty referred to this twice
@stevegignac
@stevegignac 6 лет назад
Jurrasic Park is a bad example for this. Not only is the T-Rex having full access to the park, having a desire to hunt prey, and having vision being sensitive to movement all set up earlier in the film, but this ending also fits in with the themes of the film. If a deus ex machina ending was ever earned or able to be given a pass, it's in Jurassic Park.
@WillemoesJ
@WillemoesJ 5 лет назад
Then why didn't they hear it coming Everything about the fucking T-Rex has been built up by shaky water or rumbling, but somehow T-Rex acquired stealth abilities because whatever who cares
@zonastarwars4397
@zonastarwars4397 5 лет назад
@@WillemoesJ The T-rex doesn't make noise when it's hunting, that was established when the T-rex was attacking Gallimimus.
@sidewinderl
@sidewinderl 5 лет назад
JP was Deus Rex Machina. The thing that made it egregious was that they'd spent so much time building up the T-Rex as something you knew was coming before you could even see it. It was the least sneaky dinosaur in the movie until they decided it could just magically appear inside a building completely undetected.
@Immafraid
@Immafraid 2 года назад
1.You can see where it entered 2. Would you really notice if two velociraptors were trying to eat you?
@RaidenURmind
@RaidenURmind 6 лет назад
With regards to foreshadowing I'm surprised Chekhov's gun wasn't mentioned.
@kubolor1234
@kubolor1234 6 лет назад
This video skimmed the surface tbh...But I guess it isn't targeting screenwriters but rather the everyday filmgoer who might be curious about how film works.
@pooyashirazi1991
@pooyashirazi1991 6 лет назад
so you're saying being literally saved by an eagle earlier and the fact that Gandalf is a good friend of theirs is not foreshadowing ? if not, would Gandalf breaking the fourth wall and telling the audience that he is later going to save Frodo by riding a giant eagle and even wink at the audience in the end count as foreshadowing?!
@knwr
@knwr 2 года назад
Yea I think audiences are getting a little too comfortable with spoonfeeding these days. Following up that scene with "in otherwords, lazy writing" completely ignores what that scene even means. It's anything but lazy, and has specific purpose to Tolkien's intended conclusion.
@Radimkiller
@Radimkiller 5 лет назад
You have no idea what Deus Ex Machina is.
@mariogoesinsane
@mariogoesinsane 5 лет назад
Ah, I always thought deus ex machina was the name of a band -.-
@derekbrown5123
@derekbrown5123 5 лет назад
Could've at least explained that it means "God in the machine."
@DavidsKanal
@DavidsKanal 5 лет назад
God _from_ the machine, isn't it?
@derekbrown5123
@derekbrown5123 5 лет назад
@@DavidsKanal I don't know. Someone should make a video to explain it.
@DavidsKanal
@DavidsKanal 5 лет назад
@@derekbrown5123 I remember it being "God from the machine" from some analysis videos I watched about the movie Ex Machina a while ago. Theterm actually made sense within that context, however here, I don't know where exactly it comes from...
@martinpatella3986
@martinpatella3986 5 лет назад
@@DavidsKanal "ex machina" means "a god from a machine", but the deus could give it another meaning
@IgnorancEnArrogance
@IgnorancEnArrogance 5 лет назад
It hurts that you had to use a LotR scene for an example, because it hardly makes sense. Gandalf had befriended the eagles centuries ago and was connected with them and knew how to call them. Even even if the eagles didn't come, and most of the people in that battle died, they still would've have provided enough of a distraction for frodo to destroy the ring and cause the floor to collapse below the rest of sauron's army, and hence achieve their ultimate goal and destroy his spawn across middle-earth. I don't think the wyverns appearing was a totally unsolvable problem that would have ruined the fellowship, as they were putting up a pretty damn good fight as it was. The rest of the fellowship was ready to give their lives in that battle for frodo anyways. They didn't have to win that battle, only buy frodo time.
@bananasaur5209
@bananasaur5209 5 лет назад
Thank u
@PotatoJonson
@PotatoJonson 5 лет назад
Deus ex machina is when the writer hasn't earned the moment, like if they were saved from velociraptors by the army. The T-Rex was already introduced, and last seen loose in the park. That's called set-up and a surprising moment, or good writing. Fine line, but an important one.
@zacharyball3055
@zacharyball3055 5 лет назад
Man I wanna start by saying that overall, I thought this was a really high-quality video. However, I'm no expert by any means so who knows, maybe I'm going to eat my words. But I'm pretty sure that isn't what Deus Ex Machina is, at least as far as I know. Obviously commenting on this after the fact would afford me the advantage of googling Deus Ex Machina if I wanted to be an ass lol but I'm not gonna do that and instead just give you the definition as I remember it and maybe this can spark some friendly debate lol Ok so the way I've always understood it is; Deus Ex Machina or (The God Machine) has somewhat of a two fold meaning. The first originated in early theatre, and referred to an actual machine of sorts that was used to create different sound effects like thunder and what not, because back then they didn't have sound effects equipment. The other, is referring to an intangible force of sorts that is responsible for the unexplainable that takes place within a novel, movie, or play. Kinda like fate. So you aren't entirely wrong because yea the T-Rex coming in at that time could be Deus Ex Machina in regards to something unexplainable happening that saved their lives, but this whole description of Deus Ex Machina as a literary device used in instances of lazy writing, I've never heard that before and am certainly not familiar with that concept.
@nicxgenesis1742
@nicxgenesis1742 3 года назад
Here after the Rick & Morty trailer.
@Dagens24
@Dagens24 5 лет назад
I don't know if I agree with your JP example. The T-Rex had already been established as being in play, so for it to show up in the final confrontation doesn't exactly seem like it's out of nowhere. If they hadn't shown or mentioned the T-Rex by than point then I would say your point is valid.
@BelastetGD
@BelastetGD 5 лет назад
Am i the only person who is from *Scp-079* and *Scp-2000?*
@Daponics89
@Daponics89 4 года назад
Lmao! Batman and Robin's life saving porpoise....I have to watch that again
@snowmcsnow4732
@snowmcsnow4732 4 года назад
The exploding shark scene would have been a perfect way to end it the video
@_Fadedpolo
@_Fadedpolo Год назад
Elon Musk sent us here lol
@khiemluong4591
@khiemluong4591 5 лет назад
You should have set up context before abruptly ending your video. Jk, I'm sure that was intentional
@AnyVideo999
@AnyVideo999 5 лет назад
The Eagles work as deus ex machina, the gods of Arda had a hand to play in the destruction of Sauron. Even Gandalf's entire character being sent to middle Earth is deus ex machina. They work since they don't single handedly resolve the conflict, deus ex is only bad when it entirely removes the main conflict.
@IgnorancEnArrogance
@IgnorancEnArrogance 5 лет назад
You could argue that all magic and fantasy in any degree is deux ex machina, because it's all made up.
@AnyVideo999
@AnyVideo999 5 лет назад
@@IgnorancEnArrogance you could. I just don't think all deus ex machina is lazy writing. It lets stakes build higher than they otherwise could.
@IgnorancEnArrogance
@IgnorancEnArrogance 5 лет назад
@@AnyVideo999 - I totally agree with you, I just just trying to think in this guys' head, because it seems that anything he forgets was already mentioned previously in a film, he writes of as deux ex machina to compensate lol
@SalusFuturistics
@SalusFuturistics Год назад
Harlan Ellison does a hilarious non-subversion of the Trope by first mentioning how asinine it is, and then do it right after in his Story. What a Nuisance.
@girtsindriksons7604
@girtsindriksons7604 3 года назад
here After Rick And Morty
@cptbula7279
@cptbula7279 5 лет назад
Lol!!!!!Shark Repellant Bat Spray!!!!!!!....Awesome
@FlashPointHx
@FlashPointHx 5 лет назад
Thanks for the explanation. You presented it in an awesome format as well
@martinpatella3986
@martinpatella3986 5 лет назад
but why is it called deus ex machina...
@arijeetdatta25596387
@arijeetdatta25596387 5 лет назад
Shut up: Jurassic park is not deux ex machina. The Tyrannosaurus rex 🦖 attacked only the velociraptors because they were moving
@Iridiumcosmos
@Iridiumcosmos 4 года назад
Arijeet Datta He literally said that if there’s no foreshadowing or if the movie isn’t at least self aware. Then it’s a D.E.M. That specific scene is a D.E.M.
@OlafLesniak
@OlafLesniak 6 лет назад
Nice Deus Ex Machina there at the end. But I think it's not bad when executed nicely. Jurassic Park for example gets off the leash for being so fun and unexpected. Also Jurassic World was not a Deus Ex Machina. The Mosasaurus doesn't come out of nowhere. He comes out of the water container he was always seen in.
@uncannyvalley2350
@uncannyvalley2350 4 года назад
A porpoise suicides *INTO A TORPEDO* to save Batman... *#SeEMsLEgiT*
@cotymccollum2927
@cotymccollum2927 2 года назад
So THATS what cinemasins meant with the few trillion times they used the phrase “Deus ex Machina”.
@CraigHornerVerified
@CraigHornerVerified 6 лет назад
Up until about a week ago, i completely agreed with the opinion that Jurassic Park suffers from Deus Ex Machina. But now I'm starting to think the scene in question is really about Alan's final evolution of 'family man'. He starts the film wanting nothing to do with Lex and Tim, or any kids for that matter. But by the end, he's done a complete one-eighty. He has no chance against the raptors, but he shields the family, and offers his life (probably assuming the raptors will take just him to eat). The way he bows his head as the raptor jumps, IMO, is imagery for the "death/resurrection" part of the Hero's Journey. I felt Home Alone and Lord of the Flies suffered from these moments too. I need to rethink that though. Maybe the message is, if you can hang on long enough, karma/God/the universe rewards the good, and punishes the wicked.
@Schmidtelpunkt
@Schmidtelpunkt 6 лет назад
In Lord Of The Flies they burn the island. The whole time they try to signal ships or planes with their fire. But more important: the ending does not just solve the heroes problems, it is the fitting ending for the narrative. Children abandoning civilization meeting civilization is the point.
@Kwijiboz
@Kwijiboz 5 лет назад
In defense of Tolkien´s Deus Ex Machina or "eucatastrophe": www.tor.com/2017/12/27/in-defense-of-tolkiens-deus-ex-machina/ Also, Tolkien was a Catholic a eucatastrophe is similar to a miracle, look it up.
@flatland4185
@flatland4185 2 года назад
El dios que baja de la máquina creo que más que referencia a un Heroe que salva el día, creo que se va más a lo de ella inteligencia artificial quien sabe quizás no preparan para el gran Salvador con todas.estas referencias en las películas, algo asi.. curioso el cap de los Simpsons que Dios baja a Homero con esas mismas palabras, el luebean?, Extraterrestres " ", no se sabe pero si es claro que nos preparan para algo con estos términos...
@JoelEbert-te8xq
@JoelEbert-te8xq 5 месяцев назад
I don't think it's something to be "guilty" of. It is sometimes a way to bring the movie full circle, as in Jurassic Park. Once terrorized by T Rex, now saved by him. There's poetry there.
@kerimca98
@kerimca98 Год назад
Goku going Super Saiyan is a well executed one, foreshadowed for like 30 episodes
@BigShippy0
@BigShippy0 4 года назад
Why is it called deus ex machina though?
@wandersonfrancisco8494
@wandersonfrancisco8494 4 года назад
It means "God from the machine" in Latin
@XavielYouTube
@XavielYouTube 5 лет назад
I need a deus ex machina in my life
@JamesMackenzie-sx2bu
@JamesMackenzie-sx2bu 3 месяца назад
No way was that Batman scene with shark realistic. But the pain in the voice of our superhero was! I was almost crying although it did seem to be a little convenient to have a row of shark repellent and nothing else. A helicopter with emergency shark repellent and no other emergency supplies. I’m not buying it
@HughSmith
@HughSmith 2 года назад
You missed the earlier foreshadowing in Aliens where Burke speaks with Riply about her job working in the cargo docks, his exact quote is "running loaders, forklifts, that sort of thing? So this ending was foreshadowed TWIICE... That is why is it a brilliant movie
@meowmutu
@meowmutu 5 лет назад
arya never finished a single "training" in her life think about it her sword teacher got killed she failed her first assignment as a faceless man she didn't dismiss her identity as Arya Stark yet she "passed" the test and get the faceless men superpowers
@atomsmasha
@atomsmasha 2 года назад
But, as you’re explaining, this is not a”Hollywood trope” since it’s pre-Hollywood. Nor is it necessarily lazy writing. Sure, it can be but you cannot argue that unexpected things do not happen in real life. Okay, gods or monsters don’t appear from nowhere, but random people and occurrences do. Such things are often interpreted by some as ‘miracles.’ Hopefully you get the point.
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 4 года назад
Jurassic park is completely excused in my opinion, because it's the movies' principal concept to show awesome dinosaur fights, there's not even any other reason for it to exist. So using any possible way to add as much inter-dino fights as possible is how it should be done. I'd even say that this isn't a use of DeM, because it's not unexpectable at all in the given scenario. For a really clear DeM example take Star Trek Voyager. It was the worst Deus Ex Machina collection ever, and completely destroyed everything that Star Trek had created in credibility over all the years before by the horrible overusage of DeM alone (besides still having countless other flaws of course..)
@mightywhite360
@mightywhite360 4 года назад
Deus ex machina is Greek. It literally translates to, god from the machine. Now, according to wiki, it's a Latin calque of the Greek term. That's not important though. Also according to wiki, it was coined from the ancient Greek playwrights use of machines to either lower or raise actors playing the parts of ancient gods to the stage usually in situations that either they couldn't resolve without an unforseen act of god/gods that saves the day, or to depict a certain person such as an emperor or king etc in a heroic light that made them look good so that they didn't offend the guy who ultimately balances their life on the tip of his little thumb. What nobody ever talks about, Mr. Anderson, is the literal god that dwells within the machine. Unfortunately, the Oracle says it's not you though. And now, because you've been trotting around our little simulation thinking you own the place, you got yourself killed by agent Smith who is nothing more than a firewall type program used to catch and delete corrupted/infected files such as yourself. But wait. What's this? PLOT TWIST! You really are the one because you just resurrected yourself from the dead and deleted Smith. But wait. PLOT TWIST! You never were the one Smith was and he's reinstalled himself and copied himself in mass and now he will destroy the machine from which he was born just as the Oracle prophesied. WOW who'dve thunk the machine god would send itself as the form of man into the world which it created to be the ultimate sacrifice that would save those men which it breathed life into and created the world in which they dwell oblivious to the reality of their own existence? 🤔 Wait a minute... Why does this sound so familiar?
@alexandrebeaudry8377
@alexandrebeaudry8377 3 года назад
Deus ex Machina, cliffhanger and plot armor are the sign of poor writing. Even worst when the Cliffhanger is not answer (Lost) And GOT got all of them by the end. Superman did not only reverse time. He did it for a section of the world
@knwr
@knwr 2 года назад
I have to say, opening on the scene with the Eagles is a pretty poor choice since it implies you don't completely understand the topic. Since Deus Ex Machina is presented as synonymous with "Lazy Writing" (in response to this scene), I think it's safe to presume the intended meaning of the scene was not understood. In lazy writing, the writer has written themselves into a position that they don't have any good ideas for escaping, and so they use a deus ex machina to get out. Tolkien deliberately wrote the story into this position because the "Deus Ex Machina" is part of his intended story. After sacrificing everything they have to offer in an effort to thwart evil, an unexpected godlike intervention comes out of the darkness as a beakon of light. Something that Tolkien didn't believe in for his own reality, and in spite of this wanted to make it an important part of his story. He even coined the term "Eucatastrophe" for it.
@imsorryyoutube6774
@imsorryyoutube6774 2 года назад
What about the end of avatar the last Airbender? A kids show, I get it, but even as a kid I thought it was kind of wack that Aang goes through this whole thing about never wanting to kill, and it seemed like a setup for some sort of lesson about the responsibility of the avatar being far more important than his monk upbringing. Then out of nowhere a huge fuck off turtle is like "nah bro, just take his bending away dog". I guess I get that as a kid show they can't have explicit killing but it just came out of nowhere. I'm kind of dumb though so maybe I missed some other plot point, and it has been over a decade since I've seen it
@trajanledesma
@trajanledesma 5 лет назад
Goose the cat.
@emreergen5433
@emreergen5433 2 года назад
It feels like the case in Pulp fiction explanation. Samuel L. Jackson goes:God came from heaven and stopped the motherfuckin bullets. 😂😂
@jarlbregadan914
@jarlbregadan914 5 лет назад
The Eagles knew the army of the men was marching from Minas Tirith to the Morannon to fight a final desperate battle. They joined the battle as part of the Free Folk. They did not come out of nowhere.
@lordchameleon2650
@lordchameleon2650 5 лет назад
Eagles scene in the return of the king wasnt that much of a deus ex machina lazy writing, we already knew he would survive the nazgul and such mythological creatures like eagles were justified and was a happy surprise to see. But I want to suggest Arya Stark against the Night King scene in season 8 of GOT as the ultimate lazy written ex machina shit..
@GGNH1234
@GGNH1234 4 года назад
There is nothing wrong with a deus ex machina, as long as there is something else going on. I honestly think Superman: The Movie is a good example. The scene is about whether Superman chooses to be alien or human, symbalized by visions of his two fathers: Jor-el and Jonathan Kent. Jor-el tells him that he must follow the “rules”, whereas Jonathan Kent tells him that he should listen to his heart. Superman ultimately chooses to listen to his human father.
@vetterburns1048
@vetterburns1048 2 года назад
Nice. Deus Ex Machina is prevalent, as is the MacGuffin. Definition of MacGuffin : an object, event, or character in a film or story that serves to set and keep the plot in motion despite usually lacking intrinsic importance
@Immafraid
@Immafraid 2 года назад
The Mosasaurus wasn't an example of deus ex machina. It wasn't hopeless for the T-Rex or Blue; Indominus Rex was clearly losing the fight at that point and it was just a cool way to finish off the fight.
@emirukun983
@emirukun983 5 лет назад
Deus ex machina =10000% luck. No matter how stupid is the person all problems are solved easily without any setup and just unexpectedly comes to save the day like a magic sword descending from above and a mortal in battle catch it to kill all his enemies easily when he was just near death situation awhile ago.
@hello240157
@hello240157 5 лет назад
I just wanted to know how to pronounce deus ex machina.
@_starkedits_1368
@_starkedits_1368 3 года назад
So is it fair to say that Deus Ex Machina is the reverse of Checkov’s Gun?
@eydok5114
@eydok5114 6 лет назад
The term only applies if the item or person wasn't mentioned in the film at all. In Jurassic Park, we know the T-Rex is out there, it didn't appear in the film in that scene, it was already shown before. The eagles in LOTR were also shown before. The best example would be Mr. Wolf in Pulp Fiction, where Tarantino makes fun of it by creating one of the best and most memorable Deus Ex Machina moments.
@eln5343
@eln5343 5 лет назад
All that remains is the origin of the term. Deus ex machina means 'god out of the machinery'. In days of yore the deus ex machina in theater plays was often a god (deus) who was often lowered by rope onto the stage (ex machina) to solve the problems of the characters.
@tonzie17
@tonzie17 5 лет назад
Jurassic Park is not a deus ex machina. Convenient? Yes. A Tyrannosaurus rex was loose, if some other creature or being had intervened that had not been alluded to previously in the film such as an alien or indeed God that would have been deus ex machina.
@TheDude-vx6wn
@TheDude-vx6wn 3 года назад
I don't consider Jurassic Park deus ex machia bc it was established early in the movie that t rex only see movement. The humans are standing still, and the velociraptors are moving.
@Markus-Domanski
@Markus-Domanski 2 года назад
It is not that easy. If the writers create a hopeless situation and make it really credible, there cannot be a credible solution as well, because one excludes the other. What are actually doing is putting all the credibilty into the problem (hopelessness), not into the solution (hope).
@GhostOrochi
@GhostOrochi 4 года назад
Well Adam west and old movies aren't exactly known for good writing, but here's my question how come Harry potter is considered a deus ex machina I mean he's in school of magic, we're anything and everything can happen.
@Freddie1M
@Freddie1M 2 года назад
honestly don't know why this term even exists. It's literally not that special, why can't we just call it an unlikely occurrence in a seemingly unsolvable situation.
@Gambitheart
@Gambitheart 5 лет назад
If tolkien was a lazy writer i want to be the laziest writer in the world to hell with ur perception.
@DoppSkates
@DoppSkates 4 года назад
This dude has no idea what does ex machina means. Jurassic park? Really? Bro, The Prestige is a total Deus Ex Machina momemt
@thatonenoob7854
@thatonenoob7854 5 лет назад
Superman doesn't reverse time. He went backwards to travel through time like the flash. The writer forgot that you need the speed force to travel back through time.
@vivekkumarsingh5704
@vivekkumarsingh5704 3 года назад
WTF is this guy talking about, Jurassic Park ending was not without thought. Long live T-Rex :-)
@mr.x6313
@mr.x6313 2 года назад
It's definitely a fallacy to believe that every instance of deus ex machina is poor writing. As with all tropes, it's all in the execution.
@thedeadcannotdie
@thedeadcannotdie 5 лет назад
Well taking the example of JP's T rex, we can confindently say nobody gives a fck about deus ex machina in a film if it looks cool enuf
@atomsmasha
@atomsmasha 2 года назад
You do know the 1960s “Batman” tv series and film were comedies and parodies - their self awareness was their humor.
@iamthedanger8276
@iamthedanger8276 5 лет назад
First: Learn what Deus Ex Machina is. Then, you make a video about it.
@stefanblazic4316
@stefanblazic4316 4 года назад
You disrespect sime good movies here mano.Just ask yourself whad did you write in your life,then make this clip
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