Adding subs for PVE purposes was how wargaming added Subs to the PC version of the game first. In one of the Halloween events on PC you used submarines to fight the forces of Rasputin or whatever. And then something like 2 to 3 years later, Subs showed up in random battles. Subs are coming, they're probably closer than we think.
Yeah I don't want the subs either. I wouldn't mind if there was server settings you could switch off for whether you want them in a game with you. I feel like they're like CVs where no one is happy to see them in a game except the person playing one. No value added.
@greggblack8205 because I'd like to decide whether I want specific game altering ship types that makes it stale meta? I go outside, man. I don't need to come home and try to casually play while some sweat bombs me at spawn and or sneaks around in a sub underwater to troll people who want to shoot big guns and play warships - not warsubs.
@@michaelcarson6655 Should have been permanent in my opinion as it encourages someone to spend money to buy one ship that they couldn't afford outright.
The team command menu needs to be more specific.Players need to know what a teammate is actually trying to do. Lets get some Pre-Dreadnoght premiums at T-2. Also......Let the player decide if they want to have a solo AI battle. I would love to be able to challenge myself and earn more XP etc in the process. basically..... I want there to be an endless wave game mode. Also....make the open ocean a playable map......just for the memes.
I feel most of the time the teams are lined up with one or two 53-57+% players on both teams, everything beyond that should be contributed to teamplay and positioning
@@GarlicloverTheFirst I've had my entire team abandon me on one flank which I've held solo only to be eventually surrounded and sunk after the flank that had every other player on my team collapsed.
Shame no buffs for Myogi S.Carolina and Rasputin Those battleships are just rough. And Rasputin was a real shame for me because i grinded so damn hard for it
They intro or slow roll subs into the game and you can count me out. It's bad enough having CV's as it is. The ONLY way they'd keep me as a custie is if they added a check box where we can "OPT OUT" of sub/cv games a la Crossplay. Rock/Paper/Scissors is how this thing was intended.
I don't buy it about Subs, Remember when they said that we wouldn't add Carriers and wanted the game to be "different" from WOWS PC, How did that work out?
I like to see the communication wheel be applied to ship type so it is related to said skills or equipment. Like I'm going to Radar. Or I need wheel to rebuild... you know or things on this area.
Subs could ruin the game. It’s already torpedo happy with some of those destroyers and plane happy. Still think they should come up with some additional player vs player operations to change the game pace up a bit.
I really want like a creative type of mode. Almost like training rooms but where you can just mess around and create ships. Like put Shima torps on Yama and etc. ofc it wouldn’t go into standard but it would just be against AI or something
The ONLY way SUBS could work in LEGENDS is they’d be nerfed to the point of not allowing dives beyond periscope depth. Full dives would inspire BOILED POTATOES hiding underwater the whole time! SUBS would be great In RASPUTIN’s FLEET as an introduction.
Or full dives but no homing torps. Them diving is somewhat like their version of a smoke screen. They also HAVE to get detected by sonar unlike on PC where you need a special sonar just for subs
I'm personally interested in Gdansk. From what I've read about it on WoWs PC, it's similar to Mogador and Kleber, but with faster firing guns and Kleber's HE damage/fire chance. It's Pan-Euro (Poland specifically), but with the ability to have smoke and radar simultaneously. Could be a nasty gunboat to play with.
I've almost got the Halland fully researched and been grinding the Östergotland to get the Smalland so more Pan euros would be awesome cuz I'm newer and have commited to that playstyle and Pan Euro commanders lol
I'm glad they finally admit that the last gen consoles are holding the game back. I've brought it up a few times during the streams and they always denied it.
If Aircraft carriers and Hybrid BB’s are in the game - Why shouldn’t subs be? I think Subs would make it interesting as long as there’s a limit as to how many are allowed each match.
Ok so I’ve been playing world of tanks console since the beta and world of warships since day one that said the one thing I think wowsl would benefit from is spotting damage!!! If I spot a ship and someone blows it out of the water I should get more XP than just spotting it that’s how it is in wowmw
So this brings up a few things that go under the radar by their wording 1. Gdańsk is the t10 of the pan euro gun boat line so this is all but confirmation of this being our next new tech line (focuses on smoke radar combo and only fires HE) and this coming by the end of the year might mean they are finally dropping the L tier project with the tech tree 2. The t10 comment might mean something’s are going to be reworked as far as bureau projects go. They might be adding L tier to the tech tree while keeping them as a project as well. Giving you two options on how to obtain your L tier ships. For example Yamato you can either wait a couple months for the project to finish or you can absolutely grind like hell for like 450k xp and 30-35mil silver to get it from the tech tree. They could also make gxp not able to be used on L tier and superships if those come. This allows players who have time to grind feel rewarded by getting that L tier ship and those that maybe can only play a few games a week to get it eventually as well. This would also open up the bureau to house more one off L tiers that don’t have a tech tree like vampire 2 or Rhode Island.
Subs COULD work in legends IF they get rid of homing torps (maybe a limited consumable with next to no damage but high chances of incapacitation) and let regular Sonar pick them up. Not excited at the prospect but if they do it they’ll have to have matchmaking choose between a CV game or Sub game. Never both.
5 Jan 1943: USS (CC) Helena fires 2 salvos of 5” w/Proximity Fuzing and shoots down IJN dive bomber in first US Combat test of proximity fused AA. May 1945: USS (DD) Evans & Hadley are attacked by over 150 Kamikazes off the coast of Okinawa. All were shot down with only pieces of 6 A/C actually hitting the ships. What’s the point? Wanna balance the game? Screw the CV’s, Wargaming needs to add Proximity Fuzing to the AA suites. Then we’ll see what’s what. Bring it on you Fly Bags! Same applies to Subs, add Depth Charges and improve Sonar suites and game on sardines, you’re what’s for lunch!
Yeah poor old Florida, I have her and try to find a playstyle for her. Being a Washington naval treaty design she comes pre-nerfed compared to other BBs so i've been trying to build her like a super cruiser. Speed and accuracy. Avoid gunslinger duels with other BBs hunt cruisers, and DDs with HE. Great video TB thanks for the heads up.
I've been asking since day 1 to allow us to preview ships in breau like we can with any other ship. We should be able to see the armor, skins, upgrades like everything else.
If subs com into the game in any format, they will be in the game 100% within 3 months. Glad to see they are going to add a Bureau project, but they need to dump a bunch of ships in there. Outside of this 5th birthday thing my Bureau has been empty for months.
To be honest I think submarines shouldn't be added to normal game modes like standard but they should be a separate a game mode that could either be submarine on submarine pvp or submarine pvp with other classes of ships but it's still a different game mode, but if they did add submarines I would really want to see them add the french submarine Surcouf
They will add subs sooner or later. Gotta keep the content flowing. In its current form, you could not add them to standard battle without increasing team size I think. I would not mind them, I think they’re not valid than Carriers frankly
Easy... they need good objective based game modes and get rid of epicenter for God sakes! My suggestion is basically island capture from BS Pacific! Greatest game mode ever made!
Seen the subs in the PC version. As someone who knows how ww1 and ww2 subs work, you might as well just say the WOW versions are all made of magic. The subs of that era are nothing like that and, in fairness, I cannot see how a 'realistic' treatment could fit properly into WOW. I know WG will inflict these .... *things* they call submarines on us sooner or later, but II will not pretend to like it. One prediction of mine. Early 'Cold War' era ships are cropping up more and more in the game. On that basis, I would not be the least bit surprised if WG eventually puts out, probably at Legendary Tier, early NUCLEAR-POWERED submarines - ie. the Nautilus and the Russian November. Let's be honest, there are Whales in the game who would gladly sell personal body parts for that.
aaron thinks like you that there will be some new gxp ships soon. he pointed out that for the Schill you can use gxp. and if WG lets us use the gxp, its a good move to add gxp items soon after to earn some more money from players that convert elite exp.
@@greggblack8205 didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. I haven't got a PC yet, so I'm still on legends only. What would you change to make them more balanced in Legends?
@georgesmith7449 I haven't played them on PC but from what I can see there is a pretty strong curve in learning how to use them correctly and I see the anti sub weapons to be very strong. I just think people are lazy in wows and never want to adapt to anything and just enjoy sitting behind mountains and spam... this cruiser talk specifically. Dd play is now horrendous, but I myself would love to play subs and also to sink them. It would just mix up the game meta which is so stale lately.
@@greggblack8205 I can agree with that. I've been having a lot of fun playing as and against the new boats with air strikes. Helps those AA loadouts help when a carrier isn't in play. I'm curious to see what they have planned for subs.
The Florida doesn’t need a Buff You just need to use the new American commander and you can truly stomp ass with that because you can get the reload down to a normal level.
Anyone who ever thought subs wouldn't come to the game was just drinking the Kool Aid lol. Been saying that since day 1 and I will die on that hill. They will be here in PvP eventually, that isn't even a question. Wargaming makes their money selling ships and when they run out of ships they will invent more. They especially love inventing ships that destroy the balance of the game so the whales rush out and buy the OP stuff before they do a rework and put the focus on some other group of ships so the whales go and buy THOSE lol. It's just the way it is
These questions they covered where kinda bland. As a 5 year veteran and somewhat of a competent and competitive player. I asked if there will be a game mode where the RNG will be reduced but they probably don't wanna answer that one. I also asked if Arms Race was going to be a separate game mode. Which need to added to the game imo.
It's sad that Colombo will be nerfed. When they nerf its usually heavy nerfs. I guess it's time to stop playing it. Colombo was the fun one. The accuracy isn't even that good but I understand it has good pen angles and 16 guns
Coming from Wow blitz ..there’s far too many islands.. many in stupid positions .. I’ve played all types of ships now and the extra islands add nothing to the gameplay.. They need to remove at least half of them ..