Developing for Linux on Windows - Scott Hanselman - NDC Porto 2022 

as a hardcore GNU/linux user, but not windows hater, I have to say that this talk is a great resource to show win users an easy way to embark on the power of GNU/Linux. WSL is a great way to get a Linux Environment without setting up a dual boot and messing with partition tables. Thanks for sharing!

As someone who just started using wsl recently, this video blew my mind. I didn't realize you could do so much with wsl. Particularly the explorer trick. Amazing talk!

this has nothing to do with my daily life, I thoroughly enjoyed this hour

Scott Hanselman is a global treasure. The amount I've learnt hearing him speak is priceless!

One of his best sessions. The nostalgia that popped up was cool.

Sooooo informative session. As always Scott's talks are amazing.

Great presentation. Very informative. Brought back a lot of good nostalgia as well. :) Well done, Microsoft, on WSL.

This talk a a bit all over the place and I love it

Amazing talk. I had no idea WSL had advanced that far. And just for fun, I installed gimp and ran it from ubuntu on WSL, and it just worked. Wow.

This is the best talk about modern development I've seen in decades concerning Windows. I'm back to Win from Ubuntu as my primary OS after 12 years. Infeasible a few years back but I'm happy! It's always a pleasure to hear an OG get into the "why" things are that way simply and it makes sense. That context is important. It's not magic. Gives the broad overview of how things fit that is usually missing from the "How to build X with X" crowd that just glosses over the reason things work. The TCPView and Terminal stuff is wonderful. Thanks so much!

the best part is actually the dev container for vs code, that solves an issue I always had (too many extensions for different projects)

Thanks Scott, I enjoyed it; very. 😍

Fantastic talk, Scott - really enjoyed hearing more about WSL (or should that be LSW 😂), also great hearing the history of consoles 👌🤓

TTYs use CR+LF too behind scenes (and emulation does that too); in fact, real TTYs often require extra time to reposition the head in addition to the sequence (often handled by sending NULs); this is one of the reasons that prompted Multics to have a streamlined I/O translation framework (idea inherited by Unix, called "line discipline"), which also made adding extra features easy; using just LF represents a saving of 2.5%-3% depending on the nature of the file (based on modern UNIX code and documentation files), and storage was extremely expensive back then, plus these were research products (innovation + little baggage). LF was chosen over CR because in practice CR was also used to fake a boldface in real TTYs (also works in matrix printers). Windows inherited CR+LF usage from DEC, indirectly, through DOS, for compatibility with CP/M. DEC systems were dumb, and CP/M was heavily influenced by DEC's TOPS-10 in all aspects because Gary Kildall used it for development and thus wanted compatibility.

I started using WSL just a few months ago, and installed Windows Terminal just recently. Yep, absolutely great stuff, both are amazing. If I had only seen this talk before, it would have saved me a lot of trouble I learned the hard way... And now I see the background behind that old CMD program, that I have been hating with a passion, since I usually work on Linux command line terminals (real and git-bash-mingw ones), that have always been much much better.

Love the work that has gone behind WSL. But I just hate that I have to use a mouse every now and then on a windows machine. TIL every windows process has an interactive window attached

Amazing talk

It was XTree for me and I am still using Win32 ZTree to this day! For tagging and searching source code files nothing beats it!

@56:23 "Googling with Bing" is the best quote!

very interesting presentation! In the last few years I used to work with linux only for web development. Now I started to use wsl2. It was terrible in the beginning (few years ago) but now I gave it another try and it seems to be a nice experience. One thing is that I needed to deactivate the wslg (which is used for graphical stuff in wsl). My problem was that if I pressed printscreen key, everything started to flicker every second. if I pressed printscreen multiple of times, everything flickered even more. After hours of debugging everything, I found the culprit. wslg. Don't know if thats a wsl2 bug or a problem with my graphic card drivers. And wslg was also starting strange remote desktop processes. The first time I saw multiple remote desktop processes, I quickly disconnected my internet... I thought I was being hacked and someone was watching my screen xD

Now there is audio!

Seeing that will can be updated out of band with respect to windows update, can I hope to see wslg on win10?

Praise the cameraman. Dude was working overtime to keep Scott in frame the whole time lol.

This is pretty good. I tried WSL some time ago (1 or 2 years) and it was using lots of ram. Maybe it's because I tried to go full Hyper-V? From the video, user experience seems pretty good now

Good explains

Audio is fine. Great talk!

I code on Mint and run on Windows and Mac. Rider is great.

Many years ago this experience was unthinkable, ask Steve Ballmer and his "Cancer view from Linux". It was resistance to change and fear to the opposite way to do things in Microsoft. I love linux and I'm very happy with this effort from Microsoft. A good example that fear to opposite ideas or antagonistic situations is not well funded and maybe it is better to ask ourselves what if... Linux and Windows work together! Still, work to be done but this is a good signal. Talk was asome!

I’ve been using Wsl2 for a couple months, Microsoft did a fantastic job, switched from jetbrains ides to vscode

1:14 "Where the Sound Card works!" HAHA LOVE THIS! SO APT AND STILL FUNNY. 👍👍💛💛🤣🤣

correction. Gimp is Photoshop for everyone not just for linux

Total Commander for the win!

At work we're stuck on WSL1 because WSL2 bypasses the windows firewall. Is there any effort to fix this issue?

There is audio

Fantastic talk Scott!

What's up with cameraman?

Great talk Scott!

We want native USB :)

Using WSL2; Great Job, guys!

Impressive, nice presentation.

I do all my work on wsl and it's freakin awesome

Impressive efforts. One thing I could not know where is the shared folder?

AMAZING talk! My kids were yelling and I just couldn't stop listening! Haha!

I use WSL at work every day because for some reason git is really really slow on Windows. It's absolutely fantastic.

Excellent talk. Took me down the memory lane. Microsoft is doing wonderful things.

Damn I love programming I love hardcore nerd vids like this

53:57 when the customer falls, they fall into the pit of success.

Finally the year of the Linux Desktop... and it's on Windows

Fantastic talk. And impressive work from MS. As a Mac user I'm jealous. Although it feels like Windows will switch to Linux as the default OS. As soon as it's not unprofitable enough.

I'm about half way through; enjoying the talk. But really really wishing he'd picked a better mirror for cygwin because chances are good it would have installed quite a lot more quickly with a better site selection... Oh well.

The biggest benefit of wsl is it just works out of the box. It does exactly what you expect.

weasel is much easier to understand int 21h calls were called system calls, but granted some people referred to them as doing soft interrupts with steamos being what it is: the moment you realize that you are still running windows for no other reason then pure force of habbit hmm ... the linux kernel can run anything ... as long as there is an interpreter for it

did any one get the "ghostbusters" reference in there? "cat'S and dogs live together.... mass histeria" :D nice touch!

Amazing how it just works for him, I've tried different distributions and none of them was able to run apt properly…

Bah, I was hoping this was for developing Windows software on Linux.

50:28 No, not surprising. People were calling .NET exes "natively" for almost two decades. You only need a binfmt kernel module which detects the filetype and handles this with some interpreter. Adding a bridge through this technique suggests itself.

WSM (Windows Subsystem for Mac) would be great! I'm having to buy a new "devbox" MacMini for no reason other than that Apple ain't maintaining it anymore... Microsoft has its flaws but at least my VB6 games from middle school still runs

Audio ?

18:00 ehm, what? Where have I heard that? 🤔 Ah, yes: "Surprise!!! Your perfectly fine laptop is not going to the next version of Windows because it doesn't contain a TPM. And neither will your Windows VM, *although it doesn't even run directly on hardware*, unless you do the magical simulate-the-TPM voodoo dance."

Linux is IN Windows

Microsoft only needed 22-ish years to join the 21 century. And they are still not there... That a side, Amazing talk! :)

Windows has pinned apps, a start menu and pinned apps in the start menu, but people keep using shortcut on desktop, just like windows 3.11 taught them to.

good job on using bing lol

I abandoned windows 1.5 years ago and I cannot overstate how much happier I have been since. Native linux runs circles around Windows and it isn't spying on me

17:47 "Microsoft does not get credit for backward compatibility". Wish Microsoft allowed my i7-6700K to run Windows 11.

Yeah. No audio. :(

Why would anyone in his sane mind develop for Linux on Windows? The only reason to keep Windows on a PC is games. BTW I did not watch it, maybe there is a proof in a video.

Funny video :), just install a double boot. Keep windows for gaming and video. Use Linux for development ! That it. Sooner or later windows will do the same as MacOs, using a linux core.

WSL is awful on Windows, your files are created with execute permissions by default, ssh

A microsoft audience doesn't even know what GNU stands for. Wow.

Microsoft forked Linux kernel… if it will go MS way you will get candy crush saga directly through kernel…

What on earth for? We should be moving away from Windows not continuing to support this bloated spyware OS.

Embrace extend extinguish. Microsoft is so 1990's