Honestly if you think about quick silver isn't really that good compared to well all the other skills especially against Vergil with how fast he is and how much devil trigger it drains
imo this fight is harder than either Vergil fights in dmc5. This just seems more intense and story-wise, this fight carries so much more meaning. You're stopping Vergil in his quest for power and hurting anyone else in his way in dmc3, whereas youre just trying to beat him in dmc5 as part of some sibling rivalry
Vergil in dmc3 is significantly harder than he is in dmc5. Took me 18 hours of in game time to beat the 3rd fight against him in dmc3 on dmd. The fight against him in mission 19 on dmc5 took me about 10 tries on dmd. His devil trigger in 5 doesn't heal him nearly as much where as in 3 if you didn't knock him out of it he would get like 2/3 of his hp back.
Conor1997 well I have a feeling that it’s because Vergil wasn’t what you could call fair. In DMC3 he gains health through DT at the same pace as you. But that’s not what it’s about. In DMC3 Vergil isn’t fair. You can’t knock him into the like every other human sized demon, which kinda doesn’t make sense, you can’t damage him for an extended period as he’ll always just parry you after awhile, and he has the ability to constantly teleport around the battlefield. In DMC5 Vergil is a lot more fair. You can knock him into the air, he’s less aggressive, you can damage him for longer periods as his parry isn’t unlimited after you damage him for a certain period, and he doesn’t teleport nearly as often. However their are other reasons for him being so easy. The first one is that we are just better players than we used to be, it’s no longer 2005 and we can adapt far better as we are now veteran DMC players. The second one is that a few things are easier to do in DMC5, in DMC3 jump cancelling was an art that took awhile to master, it took me way longer to get used to jump cancelling in 3 than it did in 5. The two abilities almost have a different feel between games. Another thing that’s easier in 5 is royal guard, repeatedly just guarding DMD Vergil 3 was like the highlight of you DMC career, and in 5 while royal guarding is by no means easy to master, it’s far more forgiving when it comes to timing. Now granted there are a few things that makes Vergil 3 a bit easier than DMC5 Vergil. In 3 you could build up your rage meter much faster and obliterate health on the fly, in 5 it takes much longer and depends on the power of the attack. Also I’d suggest you look up an analysis of DMC5 Vergil is a bit more deep in that game than you’d think
@@momgirlcop1 I really don't see how Vergil is unfair in dmc3. You can punish him after nearly every move he does and if you know what you're doing you can deal alot of damage in the period you're given to damage him. Then there's the fact that he always get's knocked back and grunts before he's about to block your next attack so it is 100% your own fault if that happens. I guess the ability to launch him would've been cool but imo it doesn't really impact the fight in a negative way. There are still ways to deal massive damage to him. As for the teleportation I don't see how that's unfair. He can teleport away from you and towards you if he's trying to attack you. You wait for Vergil to commit to a move and then you punish him. If you try to attack him at any other stage he will either block or evade you. It's pretty straight forward tbh. I never once felt that Vergil in dmc3 was unfair on dmd while I was fighting him since there is a counter to pretty much everything he does. You just have to be efficient to beat him. If you make mistakes, you get punished. Vergil in dmc3 is probably one of the most well designed bosses I've ever fought in any game. I got my ass handed to me when I first fought Vergil on dmd and I never got angry or felt like quitting because of how fun he is to fight. Every death felt like it was result of me making mistakes and not the game just cheating me.
Conor1997 I never said the boss itself was unfair. You can counter everything he does. What I mean is that Vergil himself is unfair, his tool kit gives him a massive advantage. Also the teleportation thing was to highlight how much more mobile he is than you. And he uses his massive tool kit to its fullest in DMC3. Whereas in DMC5 he uses all of the severely busted tools at his disposal sparingly. Also like I said he’s just much easier to royal guard, imagine if you could royal guard Vergil as easily in 3 as you could in 5. Plus, launching Vergil into the air is a huge advantage, it allows you to extend combos much further(although not infinitely) without worry of him parrying or teleporting away. Plus, while Vergil in 5 doesn’t regenerate nearly as fast, he does gain a few new advantages with his DT. First off he stays in DT much longer and pretty much can’t be knocked out of it. Second off he actually gains a significant increase in both power and speed when in DT. In 3 when he went DT, 3 things changed, his damaged was buffed significantly making him very scary to get close to unless you had DT on yourself. He became far more aggressive. And he gained his ridiculous health regen. In 5 he doesn’t have the regen, but in exchange, he’s faster. Because keep in mind in 3 Vergil just got a power increase, in 5 he gains both power and speed. And he can summon his clone, which if you don’t know how to deal with it can be pretty troublesome. Now I’m not saying that 3 is easier on DMD by no means is that true. What I am saying is that you gain a few advantages and disadvantages in 5
@@momgirlcop1 "I never said the boss itself was unfair" "Vergil himself is unfair". I mean, Vergil is the boss so you are saying he's unfair. You're essentially saying that in dmc3 Vergil is unfair because he uses all of his abilities to their fullest? That doesn't make alot of sense. I mean, why on earth wouldn't he use all of his tools to their max potential? The problem with Vergils dt in dmc5 is that it isn't really that threatning. In dmc3, when Vergil dt's you get the feeling of "Oh fuck I have to knock him out of this or else he'll heal". Where as in 5 his dt is pretty pointless tbh. All you have to do is just run around the arena and wait for him to stop using it since he doesn't heal alot of health back. The fight in dmc3 actually made you interact with him in order to deal with his dt which is far more interesting than just sprinting around the arena and occassionally firing a round trip at him. Also, I'm pretty sure Vergil does gain a speed boost in dmc3 aswell when he dt's. As for the launching thing, it definitely would've been interesting to see that in his fight in dmc3 but it doesn't really have a negative impact on the fight. If you stay on top of him and constantly punish his moves you can build up style relatively quickly. The argument here isn't about which Vergil fight is harder. It's that I really don't understand how his fight in 3 is unfair.
Alex Sattar at 60fps the RE engine will make it too obvious and break the realism. Now breaking realism wouldn't be so bad were it not for how the RE engine is horrible at pulling off snap animation. That's why re7 takes to long to draw your gun. It uses every frame wisely, if you skipped frames of animation youd see it
Unbelievably so. Vergil regens health for every moment he spends in DT, and will stay in it for an extreme amount of time, often completely healing to 100%. To get him out of it, you have to hit him a number of times, but since he never flinches its really hard to get close to him.
Bruh I just tried dmc3 and got whooped by Vergil 1, then beat Vergil 2 in a few tries but got whooped again in Vergil 3. His Stinger and Helm Breaker really catch you off guard.
I remember when playing this game on the dmd difficulty it took me about 25 continues to beat Vergil I had to purchase and save up to about 38 large green orbs in order to beat him.
You can only carry 30 at a time, Sir. Lol. Anyways, I’m at the end right now and once he’s down to a slither of health, all he does is go into the damn purple orb and goes in DT; allowing him to regenerate back to about a little more than there was initially. I’ve wasted about 15 Large vitals trying to kill off the rest of what he had left. Smh.
I beat DMD without any continues or items, Vergil 3 took me 133 tries (I tallied it lol) He's not too difficult once you get used to him, but the biggest problem I had was I was using the wrong weapons. He was recovering more health than what I was taking off him so once I switched to JC'ing Beowulf's kick, I was able to take him out within the first 20 tries.
I sure hope 5 has a good final boss like this and not trash like The Saviour or Sanctus Diabolica. But I'm pretty sure Itsuno knows that a lot of 4 wasn't great
How do you do that attack where he kicks Vergil repeatedly from above? I used the standard sword the entire time cause the movement is easier but seems like I should try beowulf
@@alexstidham4612 That's what I thought, but... Turbo Mode doesn't speed up the *music,* does it? Listen to this shit, it sounds silly. I could be wrong. Sketch af, though.
