I agree with krasi, Devon wrist not a 10. He needs straps to protect his wrist. He used to get flopped by John and Matt mask… and a bunch of others historically. I say protecting your wrist is different than wrist strength… I agree all around with krasi take. Let’s not assume Devon will win lower weight classes easy or at all… he will be a different version and strength than who you see at 280 Vitali is tip toeing… the juice makes all the difference. It just takes some research… and the difference is startling, but we know my thoughts on that… I’m just shocked guys are still trying to sell it.
Rob you ain’t even close to Devon. And krasi !! Where’s he at now?? Even levan said that Devon’s wrist is so strong though we all know that levan is way stronger than Devon. U guy’s will never stop talking shit. There’s only 2 unforgettable legends. John and Devon. Rest comes next.
Let's be real, Devon doesn't have the most efficient armwrestling style or training. He has just mastered his style, his skill is far above anyone else in the sport making him a legend but skill has a limit like Levan proved.
Sorry Rob, they're right. If you want to debate AAS and endocrinology, I'll glady take you up on that. People have different genetics and respond to AAS differently. For some people, it is absolutely a huge factor. For many others, it makes a small difference. There's been a fair amount of research done on the subject. The average strength gains across relatively large sample groups is roughly 10%.
@@harshabritoofficial levan is not the smartest guy in the pack... he didnt even know what happeend round 1 and it was not devon wrist strength. Its funny calling devon a legend when all his wins are based on refs giving him the ability to cheat a fuckton like nobody else, out of strap top 20 guys are taking his wrist
You are coddling Oleg like he is a baby. Those Ukranians are men they can take some yelling. Just you soft Americans all about rainbow and sunshine with LGBTQ flags everywhere 😂😂 Get a grip little kid
There was nothing wrong with that it's part of the game aggression, makes it fun, what was wrong was Revaz yanking Vitaly out of spite those things are wrong, not a moment of celebratory rage like David showed
yep. i called this happening a long time ago. i was thinking that he was probably feeling sick and cancelled the dadikan match because of coming off the gear. looks like he's feeling better now and getting used to just a lower TRT dose. It's nice to see honestly. He'll be much healthier
@@humanbean3I don’t even think he’s on TRT right now. I’m pretty sure he’s off everything. I’m sure he will go back on TRT when he starts competing again but for now he’s just letting his body level out.
@@kristofferhansen9159Devon is a weird armwrestler. I don't understand why he doesn't train his bicep at all. That's like not doing gym but only doing martial arts.
pradeep what are you talking about? in what world would devon be in fear of losing to dadikyan that’s a stupid take, the man’s tired let him cancel whatever he wants
Nobody disagrees he is tired. It puts his reputation at stake with not much to gain. Fear of negatively impacting your reputation is a real thing, let alone for a reputation as gigantic as Devon's.
@@limo-swine6537 are you silly? he lost to levan twice why he be scared of losing once, a guy that’s had 13+ matches in a year and a half can’t have a break??
To be fair. Losing to Levan is a safety net… he’s number 1… no shame. Losing to a guy in a class you said you could easily take over is totally different implication. Yes I think there is a fear of losing under those circumstances. Right now Devon is still viewed as number 2 overall, but a loss at a much lighter category would shatter that perception. Now, tired is tired… and cancelling a match for whatever reason is fine in my book… We should competing when we as athletes are game ready physically and mentally… I learned this hard way. Nobody should look for results when athletes are off their game. The fans should also equally distribute understanding… if you are gonna have understanding for one match being cancelled for personal reasons … then it should be do for all athletes and matches.
Devon’s wrist is definitely a 9 or 10. Devon always talks about giving things away to secure other things and his primary style lately is to give away some wrist to secure pronation. I’m sure Devon could turn plenty of the top pullers into a hook if he wanted to, it would just be a bad idea since his side pressure and biceps aren’t world elite level anymore since his elbow surgies. When you top roll the way Devon does it leaves his own wrist more exposed. But when he had to he had the wrist strength to control Prudnyk’s, Genadi’s and Ermes’ pronation like it was nothing, and also wasn’t at all at risk of losing his hand to Denis.
I think it's a false idea that Devon fans won't like him coming down from SHW. I think real Devon fans would respect this decision, understand it, and just be happy with his continued involvement in the community whatever form it takes.
Of course, Devin is losing size. We all with a brain know why. He's off the juice! I bet that's part of why he wants to take a break. He's probably been juicing year round for the past few years. Devin seems like a healthy guy, too, so he probably realizes he needs to chill a bit. Especially at his age. He may need to be a twice a year guy going forward. Ashame Armwrestling can't ever be a clean sport..
@@Ghostwriter33 he's armwrestling over 3 decades ffs no European armwrestler has that longevity 🤷 the likes of Ermes Levan morozov would be lucky armwrestling that long in their 50s
lol it has nothing to do with how Jodi eats. He's simply off the pancakes to give his body a rest. He's been grinding hard to stay heavy since the Michael Todd trilogy match. Even then he struggled to keep the weight on for the second Levan match. He stated many times that he was 260 despite pulling Dave Chaffee at 280 not that long ago. He wasn't even heavy versus Ermes like so many people claim. Low to mid 260's
@@megyskermike He's always been a lean guy. He's off cycle for his health. You think 285 pound Devon against MMT was just eating? I mean yeah it was a lot of eating and juicing. He was straight up fat.
It's called off cycling, and it's the correct way to do anabolics in a healthy fashion. Good for him taking care of his health. Dadikyan is an idiot if he thinks Devon is scared of him.
Wow I didnt know Alex said that. It's also his height too. It's harder to take wrist of opponent of longer arms. But Alex and him is about the same arm lenght, so for him to say that means Devons wrist must be one of the best
Larrat will soon be the next Michael Todd and be only talk. Dadikyan and Muratov will destroy him. After that he will be only crying. Don't forget his cheating ways got exposed and people stand up to it now (Kvikvinia) and recently (Jablonsky).
They're both right. Its the perspective. Krasi is looking at a hooking perspective as a pure wrist curling power, Engin is looking it as a "wrist handling" power. It includes fingers, front wrist(riser) and static wrist power or even whatever power to keep the wrist straight in straps. If Im not mistaken he told those too. He does not think as a single way move but more like a not foldable wrist... But toproll makes the difference and in the overall class toproller wins mostly so taking it as a whole makes more sense to me. But still Me; I think like Matyushenko. Isolate your wrist and curl from a 90 degree angle and find the pr number... Ivan said the highest he recorded ever was schoolboy. Even he did more than laletin. There goes the debate.
Well in the case that he cant get in another cicle of Juice, meaning his doctors recomend rest, in that case yes he would be scared to face him without Juice
Devon's riser negated everything Ermes had, Engin's point about Ermes insane backpressure is nullified when he can't access it, Devon's leverage and superior riser negated everything else Ermes had, same thing happened with Levan v Devon, Levan's superior riser took Devon' pronation/wrist out completely when he adjusted and made it the focal point from round two onwards
I agree fully with Krasi. Look at the ermes video the position of Devon's body and him negating and back pressure opening of the wrist that Ermes was doing. Its logical that if you apply back pressure than your wrist doesnt take as much pressure from the opponent.
It has been said many times in the comments that Devons mentally drained. And that way he can not compete or train the way he wants. He didnt cancel the match of fear of losing or that he is afraid of David.
To not be guaranteed a 100% win is not the same as being too scared of Dadikyan.. Devon is always super confident and Dadikyan, whom most people think would lose, just has sour grapes.. Who cares what people think? It's the right thing for Devon to do what is best for Devon. Is Dadikyan scared to arm wrestle someone his own age?
Logically, Krasi's position doesn't make sense, because if it did Devon would get hooked by anybody that's half decent at hook pulling. If he's saying that Devon's wrist is a 7 and no one is higher, ok, maybe. But tell me who, in the last 2 years, has forced Devon into a hook?
Your logic and conditions make no sense. Just because Devon cancelled the match it doesn't mean he wasn't sure he was going to win. The guy is taking time off from competing against everyone, not just Dadikyan. After the Levan match he felt he needed rest, mentally and physically. This makes total sense and is the right thing to do...
Devon has probably shriveled up so fast because he gotten off the roids to give his body a break, But when he gets back on the juice, he should definitely hit the big compound strength exercises to put some meat on those malnourished frail bones!😉
I think Devon would have lost to David. I think Devons wrist is maybe an 7.5. Both defensive (not getting wrist taken) and offense (cupping your wrist in) are important in the card rankings, which are currently. . . Pretty meaningless. Both weight lifted and table performance need to be taken into account (more importance to the latter). We also need to remember that you can protect your wrist by leaning on other strengths. Devon also lost his wrist in multiple matches. I also think speaking in terms like “wrist” and “hand” creates a fertile breeding ground for confusion. If we used anatomical terms like “wrist flexion” and “pronation” and “radial deviation” as well as general categories like “overall wrist strength” we would get a clearer picture of what is being claimed by the rankings shown on the back of the cards. Arm wrestling has grown hugely in recent years, is it time to modernize the terms we use to talk about specific arm wrestling abilities? I lean strongly towards yes, what does everybody else think?
@@ARMWRESTLINGNEWZ These idiots bring it up all the time, as if because someone was in the military it means they're absolutely fearless. It's one of the more common symptoms of their general fantasising about Devon.
Behavior is a symptom of motivation. The indivisible denominator of motivation is to feel. The intellect serves the impulse. You are the realization of impulsion.
I said that hes constantly literally melting (obviously due to health issues) before and a bunch of fucktards rushed to defend him while even he, himself is half telling the stuff Devon is done for pro likely
@@HafizShivji786 the brain reference had to be the most hilarious given the irony , As per the rest, to say that again, there are videos of himself bitching about health issues so no idea why you dismiss these and take specific angles on the topic not really interested to know why is that the case with you either tho .
just a slight feedback to your videos. You say you want to "discuss" different topics, but you barely discuss anything, you only report what has been said more or less like a news channel. I think it would be valuable if you actually discuss and feed in more of your thoughts on these topics as well.
a lot of steroids is exactly what vitaly needs to reach levan level lol I dont know what he is taking, but you can definitely tell it isnt a lot of stuff... he even looks natty lol if even with a low dose he can kill the entire division besides levan and ermes, imagine what he could do with the doses those last two are taking...
Russians are not so open about steroids. In whole east block part of Europe are steroids officially banned in sports. But Russian state being found to have supplied steroids and other drugs to athletes. So I guess you can' t be open about steroids in Russia because state is include and maybe it will be considered like propagation of drugs too.
Damn the Man just faced a Leviatan and Davit is saying he is scared? Come on we know they all want the payday and the publicity for facing Devon but give him a break.
@@HafizShivji786 Partially that and partially that he's obviously taking a break from the pancakes so he doesn't end up like Denis. Walking pharmacies like Levan and Ermes will die young if they stay on crazy stacks for too long.
Dadikyan needs to shut his trap! He's a big mouth clown with a ego problem. Devon would absolutely fold Davit easily. Anyone that thinks differently is clueless.
Yeh exactly it’s like we took a step back to the Pokémon card times LOL grown adults trading bits of paper with other peoples pictures is pretty strange and cringe af
@@jonnybloggs6790 Yeah bro, exactly. There's better ways to honour our athletes then making silly cards that you can't do anything with. "CHECK OUT MY HOLOGRAPHIC LEVAN BRO!". Let's dream beyond action figures and stupid plastic crap.
Who cares what we think? Krasimir knows better than everyone in your comment section and Engin is incapable of hearing opposing opinions without having a meltdown, so Krasimir likely has a point.
Funny Devon trynna reason his way out of the category that spent his whole career trying to dominate . The guy is 6.6’? Has not business in lighter classes with much smaller frame pullers . Unless we see a different Devon that keeps his elbow in the back of the pad and is not yelling at the refs
Lmao the Devon hate is proof that Arm Wrestling community is shit. The old era with prime Denis, Alexey,John and Devon was the best. I think Arm Wrestling is just too toxic.
problem is not with armwrestling community specifically, but era we now live in. Everywhere you look, they talk about feelings. I grew up in the different era. Just look at comments under any armwrestling match. I guarantee you top comments will be about feelings, respect, how one guy or another acted politely etc. Who the f... cares? Young are intentionally being made soft
I don't know why Vitaliy is saying that PEDs don't increase your strength. They definitely do. Just look at all top strength athletes, juiced to the gills. Whoever says that PEDs aren't helpful; PED literally means Performance Enhancing Drug.
I hate how Devon's dropping so much weight. There's still work to be done in the Super Heavyweights. I think it would be a disservice to the sport if he never does the Vitaly match. Maybe that's why Vitaly left him out of his top rankings; he wanted to bait him into a match. I'm not entirely convinced that it's mainly for health reasons. After his first Levan match, he said 115kg was his more natural and healthy weight. And he really did seem healthy hovering at that 115kg to 120kg range. He didn't need to go 130+ kg to fight Super Heavyweights. He was beating elite Super Heavyweights at the 120kg range.
I guess Devon's reasoning is that he would rather be a champion in the lower weight categories than #2 in the SHW. It's a shame, because I really wanted to see Devon vs Vitaly.
Devon don’t need armwrestling, but armwrestling needs Devon. He is financially comfortable and there’s more to life than armwrestling. The guy is naturally a lean guy.
Nothing to do with money. He's said so many times that he'll always do it for the love of the sport, which is ancient by the way, and doesn't need him, or his superficial fans in order to grow.
@@alexm2873 wow being so delusional is wild , you know that devon alone gives more money than all the others except levan , look at views and number of paper view sells , if engin was loosing devon he would be very angry .
That weight still has nothing to do with health. No need to even mention that. Devon has always been thin for his height. It's a different matter if you belong to a group that is horrified by someone who is 10 kilos overweight. It's nothing. If we are talking about 30-50 kilos of excess weight, then it starts to have health effects on the athlete.
Devon has only a few interesting matches outside super heavyweights since he is bigger in frame than everybody else there: Dadikyan, Toddzilla, Prudnik, Muratov, Matyushenko.
I absolutely agree with Krasi. I have saying this since long. Strong pronation does not mean strong wrist. Devon does not lose his wrist because he himself takes others wrist and not with his wrist but with his pronation. Now, let's say someone needs take his wrist, that means Devon will go for the hook and someone will toproll him and take his wrist with their pronation. For this to happen, they need to have longer lever than Devon or they need to be stupid strong like Levan. This is the reason why shorter arm armwreslters always try to hook and longer guys go for the toproll. How can someone say a person's wrist is strong when he does not even use his wrist.
