This is just the first of many, shaking off the rust with this one :) Song: Shreds of Light- Tokyo Ghoul RE: Discord: / discord Twitter: @ZachNerdTemplar
Defeating Ultima: I have protected Eorzea. Defeating Nidhogg: I have brought peace to Ishgard. Defeating Shinryu: I have liberated nations. Defeating Emet Selch and Elidibus: I am in physical pain.
In some ways, Elidibus's story hit me harder than Emet-Selch's. All this time, Elidibus presented himself as the cold calculator. Always unflappable. But the truth was that we was a young child who wanted to see his friends again so badly, especially Azem, the true "Warrior of Light'. He promised his hero that he would fulfill his duty to the end, to the point that he gave up his individuality to become Zodiark, and recreated himself from him to help his people further. Lahabrea is gone, and Emet-Selch, too. Elidibus knows that he probably can't beat the WoL but tries his best anyways, because that is his duty. At the end, Elidibus sits crying that he failed, that he couldn't restore his people, that he couldn't be with Azem one last time, completely unaware that he is standing right before him. Credits to the writing team for making a previously flat character that was Elidibus into a tear-choker. Also credits to his voice actor who went from deadpan to overflowing with sorrow and hesitation. What an incredible performance, especially with the voice breaking at times. I truly look forward to what FFXIV has in store for the future.
I don't think Elidibus knew who Azem was, the people he was talking about are likely Lahabrea and igeyorhm, given they seemed almost like parental figures to him in the flashbacks. He even says he sees our soul but he does not recognise it, whereas Emet Selch and Hythlodaeus both recognised it.
@@anonymousxaela761 He was indeed talking about Azem. Y'shtola came to the same conclusion that Hythlodeus confirmed right after. They said Elidibus had been losing his memories as an Amaurotine since he became a primal. Separating himself from Zodiark, a lot of his memories from before that summoning were distorted by his singular mission, with the vast masses of Amaurot fueling it. He had set the ideal hero/Warrior of Light for the shards based on Azem, who inspired him. Even possessed the first Warrior of Light, fashioning himself as his inspiration. Elidibus knew Azem, and remembered his promise to him/her, but he had forgotten about Azem himself/herself.
"he gave up his individuality to become Zodiark". I really like this wording because it reinforces the parallel of Elibidus and Graha. Both had to sacrifice their individuality to become the embodiment of their respective world's hopes and dreams. The "self" that existed before their mission began is dead, and they only continued to live for nothing more than the will of the people. Graha was on the same path as Elibidus, only Elibidus was further along that path, to the point of forgetting the very nature of his mission. I love that Graha lived, and I love that unlike Emet, Elibidus does not compromise, to the very end, very emotional and super cathartic for very different reasons. Amazing characters.
i mean like, the remaining people of the convocation still killed countless people through the previous rejoinings and calamities. So to me they are definitely mass murders and villains. Do I get what they're doing/why they do it and like their writing? YES, it's amazing they make me care for people who have done such incredibly evil things. Does that make them good people tho? To me, a resounding no.
@@iitsthreedog But in the end, none of us can really say anything in regards to their motive, or their actions. "Case in point -I do not consider you to be truly alive. Ergo, I will not be guilty of murder if I kill you." Emet-Selch made it clear: the new generation to the Unsundered were like ants would be, to us. Have you ever thought of yourself as a murderer, for squishing that spider that was in your bathtub, or slapping that mosquito biting your arm? Of course not. "For we, who have known perfection, the shattered source and its remnants are ghastly mockeries of the one true world."
You can see Vauthry as a villain, and as a victim at the same time. He was spoiled from birth and raised incredibly poorly, its no wonder he became so evil. But to Vauthry he couldn't understand that he was being evil. He was SO messed up he thought he WAS Righteousness.
Emet-Selch died with a smile on his face, finally understanding he could leave the world in our hands. But Elidibus, unable to understand us because of his nature, died crying because he had failed to keep the promise he made to his family and friends.
Elidibus gave me something I really wanted to see from the Ascians. I *love* how angry he is at us for killing his comrades, how in 5.3 he brings up Lahabrea and Emet-Selch multiple times and how we "murdered" them. I adore that they gave a sense of genuine camaraderie from the guys who used to just be the bad evil dark sorcerer guys.
Elidibus ended up being so tragic in the end in a way I never imagined him. It's strange, he was so intriguing in ARR then in HW it felt like he took a seat on the back burner all the way until ShB. I'm impressed they managed to make him compelling again. That last line delivery... I can't hear it and not cry.
Emet's story still hit me harder, but when Elidibus called us Death, I got legitimate goosebumps. When you think about it, we really are. How many immortals have we slain? We've committed genocide. All in the name of justice or the greater good. His voice actor was fantastic.
I don't think what the warrior of light did counts as genocide. Wiping out a people or s culture was never their attention. Not to mention the many times they tried to reach some kind of peaceful solution with the ascians.
When your own existence is threatened what else can you do but vanquish a foe... They proactively try to murder is to fix their own mistake - we defend our right to live...
Elidibus reminds me of Alphinaud somehow. Him being smaller than other ancients, perhaps he was younger. A child progeny. I could see Alphinaud doing exactly what Elidibus did - for our sake and the world's.
the best villains are ones you can sympathise with, who aren't evil because the plot demands a villain but are antagonistic because of their opwn motivation to a point where you can understand their motives were u in their shoes that's how i felt about Emet and Elidibus, XIV has such amazing writers p.s. love the vids keep up the great work!
That final line just breaks me. *Breaks me,* just like Emet-Selch's. I don't feel bad for defeating them and bringing their dream down...Because it's a hollow one. They can Rejoin all of the worlds and rebuild their lost homeland, but the people who sacrificed their lives, their souls to create Hydaelyn and Zodiark are gone forever. Once a soul is fully absorbed into the Lifestream, the person ceases to be...Permanently. And, for these Ascians...They continually talk about how we are failures and how we are disappointments, but...They take what is best in us and twist it to their own ends. They judge us inferior because they can find the worst in us and exploit it. But do they ever really try to raise us up? To make us into their true heirs? No. Instead they refuse to see us even as being alive. To them, we are tools and animals to sacrifice for their own purposes. They judged us inferior from the very first...Only the ones who brought forth Hydaelyn saw us as worthy of protection and nurturing, of being their heirs. I feel sorrow and sympathy for the Convocation, for Emet-Selch and Elidibus especially, because they only wished to save their people and world...But I cannot condone what they have done. They set the game against us from the beginning and refused to give us a real chance to prove ourselves. They claim we have forgotten our history...But the Calamities they caused are the reason why no evidence of the world-that-was exists on the Source. Every time the people of the world as it is now even begin to approach a level where they *could* understand what came before, the Ascians made sure that their rise was tainted with the worst elements and ensured they would be destroyed to usher in a Rejoining. It's far too easy for them to sit in judgement of us when they are architects of all that which they judge us for. It is much harder to nurture the best in someone because it means you must persevere through the disappointments. They were so focused on their unattainable dream that they refused to see the one that could be achieved...And, of course, they could never have been convinced anyway. Zodiark has already tempered them, every one. Even if they COULD see us as their heirs...They will never act in our best interests because they cannot. Our best interests...Conflict with their god's. This story has gone so many places and been so amazing in its telling, especially of late. But...Now I worry for the future. The last of the Unsundered is lost...And those left in his wake are not bound by anything so sympathetic or just as duty to the lost or memories of better times. They crave only devastation and chaos, a return of their dark god...And now nothing will prevent them from sowing that chaos except for us. And we do not know where they are, where they will come from, or even who they will look like when they do.
I have hope for the seemingly psychotic ascian if only because Hades seemed like a shallow 'joker" character as well, until his real nature was revealed towards the end. The real threat however ultimately has to be "The Sound", that which threatened the world of old and necessitated the summoning of Zodiark in the first place. It's happening on the source too now. Lahabrea suggests as such when confronted after beating the ultimate weapon. Though it was a line that meant nothing to us at the time.
The Ascians that sacrificed himself did not return to the Lifestream (Which was potentially created by Hydaelyn as Emet-Selch implies that Ascians were exempt from the cycle of reincarnation). They became part of Zodiark, just like Elidibus did. If Elidibus was able to return, then the others could too if Zodiark had a replacement for their aether. The Ascians know best how this works given they literally summoned him, so it's a bit nonsense to believe they spent thousands of years trying something impossible.
And yet we'll keep moving forward. Because regardless of how many hardships, however many losses, and however many times we question ourselves why we keep up this fight, we will. Because while fate can be cruel, a Smile suits a Hero, and even when we're long, long gone, we'll still be a hero, because we'll have inspired so many others to take up the cause, to do what must be done, to make sure, that one day... they'll be the ones to fight for those *they* have lost, and for those *they* can yet save.
...I could only ever grit my teeth at Elidibus. I wanted so...desperately to finally find a compromise. But the Ascians...just can't accept us. They cannot. They have so much lost of their own...and we are hollow imitations of what they were; and to see Emet Selch make pale echoes of the Ascians... This was never a fight between light and dark. This was a fight between saving those lost or protecting those who remain.
Those lost cant truly be saved. A common theme in this game is people consumed by the past. Nidhogg consumed by a wrong long in the past. Gaius trying to resurrect a long dead invasion, the ascians trying to reclaim a past that is far out of reach. The villians of these games are always in someway fixed on the past, unable to truly see a future. They can only move backwards not forwards.
Words can't describe how happy I am to see another tribute video... Emet brought me here what seems like an age ago and here I'll happily remain. If this is you shaking off the rust then I know I'll be far from dissapointed once all is said and done. Thank you, the patches give us such wonderful storytelling... but no villain's song is sung and no arc is truly over till we've had one of these beauties published. Your videos only make the content better.
the Ascians are basically players from another world. "I arm myself, I hone my skills, I make ready to vanquish my enemy.....you." "Defeat is not an option." Unfortunately for them. Death is permanent.
If I had to guess what Elidibus' true name was prior to being granted an official title, I would wager it being Ophiucus, the healer. The Ophiucus constellation on his constellation crystal literally carries the snake, Serpens, which is the constellation that represents Zodiark in the Ivalice games. He's also an optional superboss, akin to Emet-Selch's Hades from FFIX. A healer carrying the burden of Zodiark, yeah that's what he was made to be.
I've long-since lost count of how many times I've played this video. Elidibus' final speech is just so incredibly powerful, especially that last line. I love most of your tribute videos and get hype whenever you release a new one, but this one, I've just played again and again for that speech.
I still re-watch this regularly and in two weeks time I'm going out with a friend to get my first (and possibly only) tattoo. The rains have ceased and we have been graced with another beautiful day.
Elidibus.... the Warior of Light of a dying world.... This is why our character connects so much to him. because we understand Elidibus.. Our character might've tried to do the same
I listen to the Japanese VA's so this video is the first time I've heard the English and those who have said: "Kudo's to the VA's because they really nailed the emotion" they're right. FUUUU elidibus hit me harder. I bemoaned through three expansions "What the heck ever happened to Elidibus? We've not heard from him, only hints for so long" and then this. I was so confused. so ANGRY that the emissary would be TWISTED like this. And then his words. his confession. His view painted him as the hero of the story.... and I understood. I finally GOT IT. and it still brings tears because were the roles reversed, would I have done any different? I don't know.
I do feel like, despite Japanese voices being cool, I'd miss so much great English acting if I watches it that way... After four tales with this cast I couldn't possibly change now.
I see a lot of people saying there are no villians here or that the two sides are the same but I have to disagree. There is always one aspect that separates the villians in these games from the heroes. The heroes are always looking to possibilities in the future. They're always moving forward. The villains are fixated on the past. Nidhogg desired revenge for a past wrong and it consumed him and nearly all of ishgard as well. Solus wanted to recreate a stronger better humanity from the past. Yotsuyu was wronged by her home and spent her life unable to ever truly let go of the hate of that past. And of course the Ascians. The Ascians who desperately want to reclaim a past that is in all likelyhood beyond their reach. Dont forget the past, but be sure to always move forward.
So short after release already such a great vid. I hope you have more to come. I really love these. Especilly the Ardbert and Emet-Selch ones were true masterpieces
I honestly didn't think much of Zenos either until I was reminded of watching Snackdaddy's videos and the way he did his videos for that one made me change my views. Sure, he might fall flat on motive (at least for now) but he still has some amazing dialogue and his VA does SUCH an amazing job too. I too, really enjoyed Ardbert the Emet-Selch (and also Crystal Exarch) vids. Look forward to more!
Fun fact: since Elidibus is a primal after we killed Emet there was no longer any original ascians that had a clear idea of what he was supposed to be. So because of this he was literally losing his mind after the events of 5.0
Well, Elidibus was still considered an Amaurotine by Lahabrea and Emet-Selch even as a primal. And he was, but you're right; because of what he became, the desires and directives of both Zodiark and his people hardwired into him had made him lose his grip on what was still there and what was lost. With both Lahabrea and Emet-Selch gone, all he could focus on was his mission.
its funny how Elidibus and The Exarch were kinda the same. Heck all these heroes with dreams he summoned too. The way he tried to defeat us was by putting his all into what he believed in even if everything was gone already even his memories.
Kind of depends after seeing Elidibus. Lahabrea acted super evil in front of us becuase he felt no need to try and truly appeal to us. He like the others viewed us as worthless ants.
The short story SE released also strongly implied Lahabrea began to lose his grip on sanity over time. So by the time we actually met him and fought him...there might not have been much left of the man he was.
Thanks for the tribute; they definitely did a great job in making Elidibus's character almost as defining as Emet Selch's was, which was definitely well received imo; btw, are you still going to do a tribute for Migardsomr or Hraeselvgr sometime in the future?
*Good question Shrek meme here.* I wish that i could just say yes, but to be honest, My tributes typically are composed of speeches, quotes and music. and with the dragons, they don't speak any discernible words that would make for a tribute that i normally deliver.
When he says the rains have ceased and we have been graced with another beautiful day. I feel like he’d say that when his brothers were still alive. But now they aren’t there by his side to hear it.
i am a little concerned that his sould bubble thingy went into the tower. i am not sure how to interpret it. other then that, i will miss him and emet and yes even lahabrea.
Elidibus is just trapped in a giant auracite crystal(the crystal tower.) The crystal tower has multiple functions, acts similarly to an auracite, transform aether into usable energy into the earth...........
I only wish the new lead writer had been here from the beginning to articulate Lahabrea's character. I never felt sympathy for him, not even at the end.
Emet explained somewhere that Lahabrea's mind broke from all the times he changed bodies. The others don't do it as much as he did because it like weakens them a little bit each time. But I agree it's a shame he wasn't fleshed out as much as Emet and Elidibus.
Fantastic video but I have a question for anyone that's willing to listen does this boss fight and the flashback we had earlier in this patch confirm that Azem our original self is the same character as the warrior of light that appears in the dissida ff games?
Yes, they are both based on the original WoL from the first FF. It also seems that it was Azem's original form (?), as Elidibus thinks of that image as his inspiration. This is also a direct mirror to Gra'ha Tia, who saw our WoL as his inspiration.
Dissidia takes place in a realm between the games and greater forces pluck the characters from very specific parts of their development when they will be most facilitative to the fights that need to be fought, explaining why some of them only have memories up to a certain point in their story. The Dissidia WoL *could* be Azem but the connection between the shards of FFXIV and the actual FF worlds that came before it is vague, with noticeable differences between the shards inspired by a FF game and the actual game's world. But it is certainly possible.
@@sakuraasamiya3263 He was chosen because he was powerful. The "villain" of this story idolized the Warrior of Light and that world's Warrior of Light got smashed into a bunch of different mortals scattered across the worlds and the villain misses them dearly. They fill the people's heads with admiration at the warrior of light's grandeur and summon the power of their belief, connected to the very root of belief in heroes that vanquish darkness, into a manifestation upon themselves in order to defeat you, not allowing themselves to admit that a reincarnation of the very person they wished to be was right there before them trying to stop them.
Defeat is not an option I will strike you down I will resurrect lord zodiark and I will bring back those who sacrificed themselves to call him forth...gives me chills everytime I hear him say that.
Only now.. after all this time I realize that Elidibus actually does not have a beard. Ardbert in his body always had a little beard but Elidibus doesnt.
It hits hard when you read more on his backstory and realize he's basically like Alphinaud. An extraordinarily talented youth who feels he needs to take up most of the world's burdens and who looked up to Azem as almost an older sibling
So.... We kill our friends, who sacrificed so much to save our original world. We return to them this way after leaving Amarot because we didn't agree on how to save the world and went to look for another way... But got caught up in the sundering and become Hydelyn's servant... We didn't agree with that side either so... Why the hell am I killing my friends SE?! Why didn't I have more options to show I'm Azem?! Why can't I help my fucking friends instead of killing them SE?! *Sobs*
