very fair evaluation, well done, no bias, both incredible platforms, havent picked up a corded was in 5 years, run dewalt but just switched over to milwaulkee recently because their cordless nail gun out preforms anything on the market. Cheers and thanks
Great Video. Valuable comparison. I personally consider the corded Makita a benchmark in circular saws, no matter what size. They're rugged, powerful, smooth and dependable. That being said, I'm on the Milwaukee and Ryobi battery platforms which makes me lean towards team red in this comparison. I like your comparison of the 4, 6, & 9Ah batteries. If I was building a shed on sight without plug power at all, I'd bring 2) 4Ah, 2) 6Ah, and probably 3) 9Ah. That would be likely more than enough to run everything I'd need and then some for a 2 day project.
I like my milwaukee tools but I really wish that they would get their head in the game with newer technology. Good on dewalt for making 60v and powerstack tools that have put the pressure on milwaukee, love to see competition in the market.
@toolrev I agree I have a flexvolt grinder and at work I've used the M18 fuel grinder. I mostly have experience with Milwaukee with skill saws, Grinders, pinner, sawzall and SDS MAX. About the same amout of experience for both brands with drills and impact drivers. the M18 batteries while they have a great output but overheat quicker. I have yet to have a flexvolt battery overheat but I did overheat the grinder. I still like Milwaukee for their impact drivers, drills and M12 line but I have taken a liking to the flexvolt system after using their grinder nonstop for 3hrs yesterday though.
This is still by far the best comparison video. I like the fact that Milwaukee is really not that far off from the King, so it seems like a no-brainer to own even if you are in the Milwaukee platform. My biggest gripe with the Milwaukee is the trigger. If you ever used the other cordless saws, the Milwaukee is more like the traditional Skilsaws where it's a little hard on the finger when pulling the trigger. Rafter hook could be better and the other issue I have is the guard handle tends to catch when cutting at an angle.
Good points, I really like Dewalt's press-in deadman switch inside the trigger, doesn't slow me down, keeps tools from going off when they're not supposed to, every milwaukee tool with that stupid lift-up deadman is a pain to use, not to mention Milwaukee's loose battery connection flaw.
DeWalt makes a great saw. Unfortunately, this bad boy wasn't included in the lineup at the Project Farm's circ. saw comparison a few weeks ago. It would have dominated.
He did test a flex volt saw, he just used a 20 volt battery to be a fair comparison. When he did cut times, he did use the 60 volt battery to compare the difference.
The fact that it’s even comparable is ridiculous . 18v going against a 60v tool. They should of been able to pull away much more then they did. But DeWalt is not the tool they once were.
@@marcowens3522 The nominal voltage on the flex volt 60 V battery is 58 V. I’m confused on what you’re trying to imply. Are you trying to say it’s running at 18 V because it’s definitely not.
The biggest thing I learned about any major power tools is that the best one is the platform your in or now days you can just pick colour, they all do about the same. I love my Milwaukee though. Just love that red and black
I get what you’re saying but if you run DeWalt your much better off running Milwaukee guns through adapters if you don’t want to hassle with extra battery chargers etc. Also the m18 fuel multi tool has no equivalent on other platforms. I eventually just had to give in and buy a few Milwaukee five amps but adapters are pretty awesome if your not too scared to use them. 😎
@@toolrev I'm a Milwaukee guy but I can admit DeWalt has some amazing tools out there that blow everyone else out of the water. It really comes down to personal preference and feel more than anything these days with everything competing very similarly.
I run Dewalt and Milwaukee I’ve got a bunch of batteries for both I like them both but I do find that Dewalt saws are better all around although at the end of a day a half a second or so difference in speed really doesn’t amount to much maybe a few minutes. My biggest thing is to have reliable tools that work well day in and day out.
Switched to the Dewalt a few years ago. Run three of these everyday all day and they take the abuse of framing use actually better than the corded saws we used before. Only complaint I’ve ever had is the depth locking mechanism on them loosen up and adjusting them doesn’t work. Have used the Milwaukee and u can keep it. Just didn’t keep up with everyday use. Good video.
Yes! Ours burned out the other day so we pulled out the corded one and none of us liked it over the flexvolt. For some reason, it's just such a great saw!
Great Video , that 60v FlexVolt is Definitely a Beast , I have a FlexVolt Advantage Circ. for my bigger cuts , it's a decent saw , But I actually use that Atomic 41/2" Circ. Saw for my smaller everday cuts , like a few 2x4's or a piece of plywood and it works Great , it's nice and light , and it has a left handed blade so I can see everything , I really like it , I got it on sale for $99 , I would Definitely Recommend trying one .... 👍🖖
@@toolrev Hi, I have a quick question. If I were to buy this same saw but the 20v flexvolt advantage, would it not last way longer with the battery than the 60v? For instance I believe you said the dewalt saw cut 100 feet, so would not the 20v version with same batter cut maybe 200 feet?
Not sure but I'd guess the 60V would get better runtime because it seems to cut more efficiently than the Advantage. I've compared both in another vid but not on runtime. I know the Advantage cuts slower creating more heat which is the enemy of runtime so...@@biggesttboss
The flexvolt circs have always been really good saws. My issue has always been the price of them. Flexvolt batteries have always been ridiculously expensive and the difference in power is huge compared to 20v. Also DeWalt only made a 7 1/4" in the flexvolt line and tool only was like 250-300. I'm not sure if that is still the case but it's bullshit that everything was 6 1/2" unless you drop a ton of money. Every other company had 7 1/4" as the standard size like it should be.
I picked up the 578 with the 9ah for 339 and found a site that had a 6ah Flexvolt for 120. Should of just bought the x2 kit and got 2 9ah but I don’t need it for duration just power. I use the 6ah on my Flexvolt advantage recip if needed, but mainly run a 20v 6ah on that most of the time.
It really depends on what you started with, my batteries are all red so it's Milwaukee for me. As far as comparing Red and Yellow......Red usually comes out on top. However any comparison between the two is mostly splitting hairs.
Great video! Do you think the DCS573 (flexvolt advantage 20v) is as good as this one? I don’t know if this one worth the extra money as they are almost the same. Thanks.
The Advantage saw runs slower than the real Flexvolt. The Advantage is also slower than DeWalt's 6.5" saw on a five amp. See them compared here - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yqj3J0Kq0h4.html
I love my M18 fuel circular saw. It has the power of a corded circular saw in a battery operated packaged. I prefer it over dewalt for being a safer tool. If you want the Milwaukee to be as fast as the dewalt, you got to use it with the High output HD12.0 battery.
I find the DeWalt on a 9 runs faster than the Milwaukee on a 12. And the Flexvolt batteries don't overheat as fast as the Milwuakee H.O.s. I use both brands and don't care which one you get but I'm curious how the Milwuakee is safer in your opinion. Especially when the DeWalt has better blade visibility. Thanks for the comment.
@@toolrev that larger battery is not going to have to work as hard as that 12.0 H0 which is prone to failure unfortunately. I’m eagerly waiting to see what Milwaukee is going to do with stacked lithium or if they adopted ambidextrous battery like the Metabo HPT. Love the commitment to the 18 V line though by Milwaukee with constant improvements in engineering and better battery technology that line could be around for another 10 years. I am also curious how the Milwaukee is safer? I have it and the line of sight definitely is not great the motor is huge.
Bought a Dewalt 6.5” Left Hand saw. It’s awesome but my brain cannot figure out how to use it efficiently after using RH saws for years. Think I’m going to get the this 7.25” dewalt and be done with it! Nice comparison, thank you!
@@toolrev Sweet yeah I'm milwaukee guy but as of right now I'm thinking of getting the dewalt circular saw but I'm unsure how it would compete against the flex since I do use the circular saw alot
I'm more interested to see if their 24v batteries and tools can play with my battery adapters that do play well with 18-20V, which lets me buy pretty much whatever I want cross-brand.
I own both the Milwaukee and the Dewalt flex. Both are great saws. But the Dewalt is hands down a better saw. I own 3 of the Dewalt 7 1/4. Saws I run the 9 ah batteries I have a few 12 ah as well. They can't be stopped. I use them cutting treated lumber and I mean a lot of lumber 5 and 6 days a week. The Dewalt is a beast on steroids . Again the Milwaukee is a great saw as well
Try one out for a couple months. If you don’t like it return it. “90-Day Money Back Guarantee: If you are not completely satisfied with the performance…”
@@nsxproperties560 Yeah we'll see what they do. Makita saw the writing on the wall and went 40v. The 60v Flexvolt batteries seem to run cooler than Milwaukee's 18v batteries so the saws don't overheat as much but everything doesn't need 60v power, e.g. I love my Milwaukee 18V nailers. The Flexvolt idea with the ability to use them on 20v tools like the lawnmowers etc was pretty amazing compared Makita's 40v which isn't usable outside 40v tools. I bet the 2732 would run better on Flexvolt batteries but I personally don't like running battery adapters on saws, aside from my Fuel multi-tool and I'd use them on a miter saws if I needed to.
Im a framer by trade all day cutting and and i have bought over 50 dewalt cordless saws in the last 5 years and and they all have been great but as munch as i like them DWALT HAS TO FIX THE BEARING PROBLEM 6 months on the job and the bearring on the armature falls apart and you have to buy a new bearing and if try to take for the warranty the dewalt store in 290 in houston they will ask you for the receipt you might not have , i will try out Milwaukee saws the speed its not that important to me all i want is for the dam thing to atleast last me a year or two without falling apart
The amp hour rating of the battery refers to the longevity of the battery not the power output. So going from a lower amp hour battery to a higher amp hour battery shouldnt make it more powerful or faster. The voltage difference is what gives the Dewalt the power advantage.
@@mcqcjc8409 The Ah rating on battery is the amp hour, defined as the amount of energy charge in a battery that enables 1 ampere of current to flow for one hour. So in essence, it is the capacity. Power output it dependent on voltage x amps (but not amp hour). You cannot know the power simply by looking at either voltage or amp hour without knowing the amp discharge rate of the cells inside (c rating). In relation to your example, having more cells in more rows doesnt necessarily mean more power if they have low discharge rate in amps or voltage stays the same. Whether you have 35Ax3x18V or 35Ax50x18v, if those cells have the same c rating the power output is the same because the voltage and amps are the same. Your example implies they're connected in parallel. If you're going to have more cells, you better connect them in series to gain more voltage and more power output.
I've got a battery adapter review coming up in a week or so that might ease your pain. In the meantime you might want to check out my article on battery adapters www.toolrev.com/lets-talk-cordless-power-tool-battery-adapters/ The part about Milwaukee batteries is particularly interesting.
@@toolrev touche sir,its what i run and i love em.. very durable,some of mine are 3 years old and still perform great after many years of charge/discharge,ive seen the dewalt stuff fail after easy use batts and tools, ive seen tow truck mechanics still using 5 year old milwaulkee impact guns like they are still new and blowing away snap on tools and others,
@@spikeman68 🍻 Always nice when things last. I think I did a DeWalt battery review showing how their 5 amps hold up over the years. My wife has a 7 amp Makita screw gun that I like to use on the original batteries it came with around 20 years ago. Pretty sweet!
@@toolrev yes,always nice when stuff actually last, i remember when craftman stuff was all the rage,my son-n-law loves the dewalt stuff......i do like when he needs to borrow my milwaulkee stuff!! haha
@@toolrev I know, All I own is DeWalt, I was just implying a 2ah battery beat a 6ah on run time. I have the whole line up of DeWalt tools other than some specialty ones that I have no need for.
@@kennethcampbell7501 Yeah, but it's hard to get anything from those tests unless you have multiples of each tool to wreck. One breaking down first may just be a one-off so... And we don't even have 20K subs so not exactly a funded situation going on here. 🙃Always cool to talk tools though. Thanks for the comments. 👊
the flex volt is not a true comparison , it has 3 , 20volt batteries to make it 60 volt and also compatible with their 20 volt tools and will out perform any reg 20 volt battery power wise , i have bolt and use them every day
Thats not a good compare becouse for real test you should take the same blade on both tools and then do the test. Maby dewalt has a faster cutting blade for fast and less beauty cut(and maby not...) but only if you use same blade you will get the fine resolt.
Both saws started with the new DeWalt framer blades, you can see the paint around 4:15. The Makita used a same tooth Makita framer with similar use by the time it jumped in. You can usually find more footage and info on these reviews at toolrev.com. See ya.
I would rather have the Milwaukee with the 5 year warranty. You should always use the Milwaukee with a 12.0 high output. The only thing that the Milwaukee struggles on a little bit is cutting 2x12 pressure treated stringers consistently. I sure the next generation Milwaukee will be 10-15% more powerful and will be enough. The Milwaukee should have positive stops.
The Milwaukee is a great saw no doubts about it I own the m18 with the 12 ah ho batteries. I also own 3 Dewalt flex volt saws. They are hands down better. I have several 6 ah 9 ah and 12 ah. I mostly run them with the 9 ah. They are unstoppable. The Dewalt the depth gage locking mechanism I don't really like it gets loose over time. Other than that it's top of the line.
Milwaukee has a better battery selection with 6,8, 9 and 12AH battery. The biggest 60v battery is only 8ah where Milwaukee has a 12ah 18v battery which from my experience lasts all day and then some. Overall you can't go wrong either way it's so marginal that it's really just preference.
I run both Milwaukee and Dewalt. Flexvolt batteries run cooler and have better runtime and power on DeWalt 60 volt tools than Milwaukee high outputs on FUEL tools. Flexvolts also have 12 and 15amps.
60v if you are faster cutter blows away both my mikita and milwalkee as for skill saws. most not rapid cut as slow down to hold line so in that case not really gonna see difference in all 3 of them. I say dewalt best for high skill cutter hands down, average joe lighter ones be better option.
I use both at work .Dewalt wins hands down ,more power , lighter , better view down left and right sides which is most important. Milwaukee heats up fast on heavy rips because it draws to many amps on 18 volt system.
You can have my Dewalt DCS578B when you pry it from my cold dead hands. I don't even carry a corded saw with me any more, it stays at the shop gathering dust.
