*This mower....... changed my life **Bestfor.Garden** also recommend I never thought I would see the day when I would ever make the switch to electric yard tools. But this was one of my best decisions yet. My old 15+ year old gas mower snapped its pull string while trying to get it to fire up and instead of fixing it, I chose to upgrade instead.*
Just bought the new one. I think the reason it sounds lower in tone is because it has some sort of load sense. I've noticed when it gets to some heavy or dense grass it automatically speeds up. I guess this extends battery life. The reason I chose Dewalt over the others is due to the batteries that can be used in so many other tools. The mower is only going to be used for an hour a week at the most in the summer. All the rest of the time those batteries can be used to power an impact driver, circular saw or even a chain saw and a pair of 20V 10 AH batteries with chargers are worth close to the price you pay for the whole mower kit. Genius marketing because now I am vested in the entire Dewalt cordless power tool system.
There’s a few items that I should clarify/add: 1) I was unable to compare the actual mowing capabilities of these machines because we are currently in the middle of winter here in the northeast. I may be able to revisit this in a couple months. 2) In the video, I make it look like folding the handle is more difficult than it really is. You should just twist each knob 1/4 turn and the handle is completely freed up to move. I don’t use that feature much, so I was a bit out of practice. 3) The reason the two mowers sound so different is that the newer one has a higher torque mode that automatically kicks in under load. In my garage, it was not under load, so it was operating under reduced power to conserve battery consumption. The older 220 model always operates at the higher speed. 4) With the older 220 model, if I let my lawn get too long, neither the mulching or rear discharge modes worked great. There were just too many clippings. In this case, you will want to bag your clippings. Also, thick grass is going to cut into your battery time by probably a third. 5). DeWalt has also come out with a self-propelled version. I have not used it, but I would recommend giving it a lot of thought as to whether you actually need it. These are light mowers that are very easy to maneuver. In my opinion, you are better off going without and having your batteries go longer on the actual mowing.
Regarding battery life: I currently live on a 1/2 acre lot. Once you remove the areas that aren’t mowed (house footprint, driveway, gardens, etc.) you are left with a front and back yard that are each about 6,500 square feet (slightly over 80’ x 80’). I use two 9 ah Flexvolt batteries for the front yard and need to recharge them to do the backyard. If the grass gets a bit longer than I intended, I need to bag it and I also use a pair of 5 ah batteries to finish the job. So, I would expect these new 10 ah batteries to perform slightly better than the Flexvolts. In fact, I’ll throw out a rough formula of 700 square feet of lawn mowed per amp-hour of battery charge, assuming you haven’t let the grass get too long or wet and that you walk at a fairly quick pace. So I would plan on roughly 7,000 square feet of mowing with these 10 ah batteries before you need to recharge them. However, keep in mind that I haven’t seen what effect the dual torque feature will have on the battery life of the new model.
As he mentions in the comments this new unit has a low speed and a high speed that ramps up when you come into a more dense area. Which if you don't leave the grass for too long you'll be able to get even more out of this batteries because it won't be ramping up to high speed and it works just as good in low speed
Thank you for very much for this comparison video. I have the old lawn mower (LM) acquired back in 2019 and after just 8 months of ownership the motor failed. I got in touch with Dewalt service center store and they replaced it with a new one (shipped to my home). The tech guy in the store also advised me to avoid having the blade hitting big rocks, concrete to avoid damage to motor. In your video, I noticed (hearing) that the old LM is noisier and sounds like running on higher rev. I also invested in flexvolt batteries with higher capacity so I could use the LM longer and at the same time use the flexvolt batteries with other tools (present and future purchase) that requires 60V. Look like the new LM is has been improved a lot. I will consider this one in the future and still I am waiting if Dewalt will make a Snow blower... must be still on the drawing board.
Great review. I really needed to see the parts included since I'm buying a 1 time used 233U and wanted to make sure I get all the parts included. I also wanted to add that I'm starting to shy away from the 60v tools. Mainly because of the new line of 20v tools Dewalt started making and because the 60v batteries are ⅓ of their amp rating when used in the 60v tools. I can get much more out of my flexvolt batteries especially using then on the 20v platform. The new flexvolt 20v line are very powerful and compare well to the 60v line, without eating up the flexvolt batteries.
Yes, Fluid Film is an excellent product for preventing corrosion and keeping the grass clippings from sticking too much. It works really well on snowblowers too, if you live in the north. I normally pick it up at Napa Auto Parts or online. It’s about $8-10 for a spray can.
Been searching everywhere to buy one of these here in Ontario, Canada but it does not seem to be available yet. Hopefully we get it by this spring. Also, not too many reviews yet. Thanks for posting.
Thanks Kurt. I rely on a lot of RU-vid videos to research things or figure out how to fix them, so I figured it’s time to try to give something back. Glad it helped.
Great Job on this comparison. To the point and you seem very well in formed and offer real world usage info. Thank you! Looking to replace our gas mower. Really interested in trying out one of these.
Love your review...you sound like you might be from the Boston area. I'm from Long Island. I wish I knew about the new model! I bought the 220 this spring and while I love the way it performs, the batteries run out of juice so quickly and it takes so long for them to charge I can't mow my front and back lawn on the same day. (And they're pretty small suburban lawns.) I would have loved the larger batteries and longer run time.
I got a Toro stowaway personal pace gas mower I don't have to worry about stopping to charge I use 100% Gas it can sat for months and start right up side discharge is a must
Lots of people have trouble with flexvolt batteries sticking. Mine used to get stuck in the leaf blower and weed wacker pretty nasty so I took a few swipes of a file to the battery's clip.
When I get a chance, I’ll do a vid on Fluid Film. Great stuff for protecting against corrosion. Surprisingly, it’s lanolin based, so anyone who has owned sheep will recognize the smell. Works great though. My 2008 Tundra frame still looks brand new and we are definitely in the rust belt.
Great video, I was seeking to analysis with these two Somehow found your clip and it thus help to get more information in an easy way Price difference over here in Canada is not much $30 Love buying DeWalt stuff
Great review sir!! Went all Dewalt yard tools this summer and waiting for my new Dewalt self-propelled (front) next week. I imagine I can use the 20 V 5AH batteries as "backup" for the mower? What is the spray you use for the undercarriage?
Thank you for the review. I thinks it’s great that you have the 9 flexvolt and 10 XR batteries. Do you notice a huge difference in runtime, performance or heat of the 3 sets of batteries? I don’t know why but I feel the 9 flexvolts will give you more juice than the 10’s. Have you notice any differences?
Thanks Jang. Sorry for the delay. The 10s work real well. I was partial to the Flexvolts as well, but I’ve been really impressed by the runtime on the 10s with the new mower.
Fluid Film is a rust protection barrier product. It sprays on sort of like WD-40, but lasts longer. It is lanolin based and I believe it was originally developed for the navy. I spray it on any surface where I expect corrosion. I use it on the underside of a lawn mower annually. You can get it at Napa or online.
I just looked at these today at HD.... I bought a battery powered DeWalt trimmer last year...love it! I was thinking about a battery mower. The ones I looked at were Self propelled.... Was that new one you were showing self propelled? My yard isn't that big I would like to think I could do both front and back on one charge. Back yard= 80 X 30 feet Front yard= 80 X 50 feet
The one I reviewed was not self-propelled. I generally do no not like self-propelled mowers as they add weight and affect maneuverability while trimming. By the sounds of your yard, I’d wait for one without it. I also agree that you should be able to mow it all with one charge.
@@207tips I did go ahead and purchase the DeWalt self-propelled unit. I've used it about 4 to 6 times already. LOVE IT!!! I don't need the self-propelled option but my wife wanted it in case she felt like mowing 🙄 That hasn't happened. But it's light and easy to push without it. And most of all it really does do a good job. One charge will mow my lawn two to three times.
Wish they didn’t switch to two 10ah the flexvolt is a good selling point since I could always use more for other outdoor power tools. Makes me wonder if they have a 60v on the way think I’m gonna hold off.
Everyone go green then . I just paid for a dewalt mower $599 + tax at home depot .( depend on your location tax ) . I can cutting grass anytimes of my spare times .Forget about gas mix and noise .No shitty smell too . Best choice i guess...Any opinion ?
What is beyond me is why the hell Dewalt would go backwards on design from the quick all wheel adjust to individual 4 wheel adjust. It makes no sense at all. By far the best battery mower I have used this far has actually been the Craftsman 60v they discontinued at Lowe's but was able to get one one clearance @$199.99 down from $599.00. That things torque is way more the the top of the line Ego models and is all wheel adjust metal deck frame. I think they shared the same bodies as the Kobalt and Greenworks mowers.
Sweet deal on the Craftsman! Not sure why DeWalt made the change in height adjustment. Must be just balancing costs. I really only adjust the height maybe 2 times a year, so one extra lever doesn’t really matter much.
When mowing up leaves in the fall, I like to have the rear wheels one setting lower than the front. I also will sometimes set one side higher than the other on my Honda when mowing along the curb, to prevent scalping of the grass just behind the curb (which is taller than the curb).
Those 10ah batteries use the new 21700 cells with a better discharge rate. They are pretty awesome and stronger than the flexvolt batteries actually. The flexvolt use 18650 cells still, at least in the smaller ones... So those 10ah are actually higher quality cells...
I am curious about the battery indicator. I just bought the dcmwp233u2. There is a battery symbol on the back of the battery compartment. It doesn't appear to do anything. Is mine defective? I don't see it mentioned in the user manual. The older model had 2 battery charge indicators which were very nice.
Sorry for missing your comment earlier. No, that’s just the way the newer one is. it shows nothing until the batteries are done. The Gen1 is better in this regard, in that it shows you the status of both batteries, but ultimately you learn how far a certain battery goes on your lawn, so if you’re mowing the same place over and over, it doesn’t really matter.
Thanks for the review. It helped me to decide on the U2. You said there is an option with the Flexvolt 9ah. I called Dewalt and they said it's not a pckage they offer, maybe a dealer. I called Home Depot and a couple others and they didn't know about it. Do you know where we can get the U2 with the Flexvolt batts? Thanks for your help.
Good catch. The Flexvolt upgrade exists in the 220 version (220X2 vs the original 220P2) and, at the time, I had thought DeWalt had carried that option over to the 233 as well, but as you have identified, they did not. Thanks for clarifying that point and my apologies for the confusion.
I have a 60 volt, flexvolt, brushless weed eater and chainsaw. I was planning to add a mower but now I find out that DeWalt does not make a mower that is compatible with the 60 volt system. Marketing and management missed the boat on that one. Iguana
I use those tools in the 60v version as well. The mowers work fine with flexvolt batteries, but I agree that they should let you pair the flexvolt batteries with one of the newer mowers when you buy it.
What would you say if I told you that you just reviewed a Ryobi 40V 20" Self-propelled and a Ryobi 40V HP 21"? They're literally the exact same thing, same sound, same platform. I've sold 100 of both, but one brand costs 40% less. Oh, and they're both distributed by TTI in Anderson, S.C.
I’d say you’re promoting Ryobi. I haven’t used Ryobi enough to make a comparison but I’d gladly do so if I had one. People that I know that have Ryobi have spoken well of them.
I don’t have the 220 right now but I’ve used them both quite a bit. Is there something specific you are interested in? I can say that battery life is significantly longer with the 233. However, I like not having a side chute like the 220.
They’re pretty similar to the 9ah FlexVolt, so you can certainly use them in other tools, but they are bulky. I’d get you an exact weight, but unfortunately they’re in another location right now.
I'm thinking about upgrading myself. I love my first gen but have an opportunity to buy a 2nd gen self propelled like new for $250. My question is 7 months later at the end of summer do you feel the 2nd gen is a better mower? Thanks
I would buy that. That’s a great deal. They are different machines with minor things that I like on one verses the other, but Gen2 has much better battery life and is generally much quieter, so I wouldn’t hesitate to upgrade. Gen1 vacuums better because it always runs on high, but depending on conditions, battery life can be half of Gen2’s. I like not having the side chute on Gen1 for trimming, but the back discharge plugs up easier. I like the battery gauge on Gen1 better, but you learn how far any battery gets on your lawn anyway, so not a big deal. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Hello, Between Echo and DeWalt for outdoor tools using batteries such as Blower, trimmer and lawn mower, which in your opinion is the better value? which amp battery would you recommend and how long will a battery charge last? Thanks.
Unfortunately I don’t have enough experience with Echo to offer a valid comparison between the two. But I can say that, since going to Dewalt’s Flexvolt system, I have sold my gas powered lawn mower, trimmer and leaf blower and have not started my Husqvarna chainsaw (I haven’t sold the chainsaw because a battery chainsaw only gets you so far on the bigger stuff). I also picked up the 20v pole saw and a hedge trimmer that work very well too. In addition, I have other needs beyond the lawn tools that make the Flexvolt approach a cost-effective solution for me, but it may be overkill for someone else. I would suggest taking some time to look into the full suite of tools offered by both companies though. It’s pretty nice to have the lawn tool batteries fitting everything else you may use. With regard to the battery recommendation, I have been using 9ah Flexvolts for most of the bigger power needs, but it’s convenient to be able to drop in a couple 20v batteries when you need to finish something up. These new 10ah 20v batteries look promising and, if they live up to the advertised times, then that dual-speed power level adjustment of the newer mower is a tremendous improvement. For a larger lawn, you will want at least 9ah or greater batteries.
Thanks. I do not know which cells they are using, but would certainly be interested in understanding the difference. The mower will only work with two batteries and it will only run as long as the one with the lowest charge.
Just bought this model. Fully charged the batteries and fired it up, ran for about a minute and stopped. Checked batteries, still full charge by the gauge. Swapped battery position, ran for about another minute and stopped again. Anyone else having issues with the mower like this? Waiting on a response from DeWalt customer service currently.
Haven’t run into anything like that yet. If you’ve verified that the blade is clear and nothing’s wound up on the shaft, maybe check that the safety key is fully seated (although that would typically just not start if it wasn’t). Could be a battery issue. Let us know what you find out from DeWalt.
FYI, I had a similar problem and it turned out that a pair of cells in one of the batteries got way out of balance somehow. I corrected the imbalance manually and works fine after that.
Apparently so. That’s what mine’s like too. I’ll reserve comment on it until I get a chance to mow with it, but I did like how the older version showed the levels in both batteries.
Yes, that’s the great thing about the DeWalt system. Not only are all the 20v batteries interchangeable with all the 20v tools, but all the Flexvolt batteries work with them as well (along with the 60v tools).
Wax the topside of the deck with whatever car wax you prefer (I like Nu Finish). On the bottom side, either spray on, or brush on, Fluid Film. It’ll protect it from rusting and helps prevent build up of grass clippings.
U think they would get it right but the money don't cut it for me now u mow twice or three times a week for the money nope it doesn't work for me I'm honest
If you have other 20v DeWalt tools it is a great deal. The mower is almost free. Two batteries cost almost as much as the mower. So if you need the batteries you might as well get the mower.
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ru-vid.comUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
A bad design choice to have the self-drive capability powered by a belt driven off the main motor rather than having an independent electric motor. That would be much cooler!
Not sure, I was wondering about that myself. If that torque adjustment feature works out well, maybe it’ll be similar to the old model with the 9ah Flexvolt batteries (roughly a half hour), but these things are so light, I’d personally only consider that feature if you have fairly steep hills to mow.
Anyone who would want a self propelled model must be one lazy SOB. (Apologies to grannies, etc). I have an old Toro with a broken drive and man, what a workout. Like pushing around a small pickup.
@@207tips Brexit and good tools mate don’t come cheap and it comes from the US . If I upgrade to the top end Batts 🔋 it’s way over 1k . Still tempted but Gaad Dam that’s pricey . I’m still enjoying your vid not finished it yet 😉 👊🏿.
