DF Retro: PlayStation 3 - The 1080p Dream Part 1 - 2006-2007 - Full HD Gaming Tested On The Triple! 

I loved Lair! The game was far better than journalists gave credit.

Lair was freakin amazing dude. Great stuff! Thankyou for being part of that amazing revolutionary era ✊🏽

Wish you guys got to release that Rogue Squadron HD collection.

I always wanted to play that but I never had a PS3 and it never got ported. That game always looked awesome, hopefully bluepoint studios gets to it someday

Thanks for dropping by - this channel and 8 bit guy, always get game makers to comment. Quality content attracts quality responses.

Great story! Hahahah! I bet he was happy though.

Reminds me of a story of a guy that had built a gaming PC only to have his monitor hooked up to the iGPU for God knows how long. I don't remember if I read it on the internet or if it happened to someone I know irl lol

@@regencyrow1867 for sure, more than happy lol. I couldn't imagine playing anything all stretched out and low res like that!

Great Story! At that moment I had my PS One and PC 2007. I played Adrinalin 2 Doom 3 and my favorite Test Drive Ulmineted on it

Then I got a PS3, it was 2012 and I played with a composite cable and it seemed that the picture was not stretched, but I knew that everything would be much better with HDMI, which I did later.

if it did do anything good it was prob playing movies.

The best movie on the system was MGS 4, so it checks out.

@james vaughn play games, bluray player, wifi support and much more for only $600 that was at the time the best deal out there you couldn’t go wrong with buying a PS3.

And that was exactly why PS3s were being scalped for over $1,000.

They pretty much were the best HTPC you could buy at the time for the money. They loaded BD discs faster than standalone players, you could rip music CDs to the HDD, display photos right off a memory card, play SACDs, it even supported local streaming via a DLNA server. It supported raw .vob files, so I had a whole ton of DVDs ripped on an old laptop I used to use.

Don Matrick and the One almost killed Xbox.

@@karlimo4034 it’s still so mind-bogglingly bad lmao. I had just gotten into video game communities when the One was unveiled, rather than just playing within my friend group, and reading all the articles and forum posts of just “?????????” Was just… really something. Nearly the only thing the One did well on launch was have a good controller lol

@@Turt3752 even then I found the jump from the Dualshock ps3 to ps4 a bigger jump than xbox. Literally no market outside of the us wants batteries inside a controller, contributes to e waste and creates problems to a simple solution

@@ea8455 I don’t disagree on the batteries and actually I retract my original statement - because the best part of the XBone controller to me is that it has a plain old Bluetooth connection so it easily hooks up to phones and PCs. BUT that was only in a later revision of the controller so yeah. The Xbox One controller is still my favorite for overall comfort but it doesn’t even really stand out without the no-fuss Bluetooth at launch

@@ea8455 rechargeable AA batteries fix that issue. Most people throw away entire DS pad when the battery goes bad instead of replacing them also contributing to E waste. (I’m not saying it’s perfect and it kinda sucks you have to go out and buy good rechargeable AA batteries, but they’re a lot less E waste than an entire gamepad.)

Shut up.

yea man, but i am in love with the deisgn of the ps2, this console is just beautiful, and the oberation system look, and the screensaver with the "whit noise waves" sound...... sadly the new console are not even close to the pure quality of this design.

The console itself was 1080p

Early PS3 titles are definetly retro by now but the entire console hasn't reached that point yet. I refuse to call a console that can run GTA V retro just yet.

It's almost been 10 years since the end of the ps3 era (2013).

@@spiral7399 PS3 is retro already, accept it and move on

@@Bearded.Jim1989 The PS3 generation is one of the longest ones we've ever experienced, it makes more sense to divide it into two. One half is definetly retro, but the other still has a lot of modern titles on it.

@@spiral7399 The whole gen is retro now regardless how long it lasted. PS4|Xbox One generation lasted just as long. Games released late in the 360|PS3 generation actually look and run worse than earlier game releases, hence why some games got remaster releases in the following gen.

Hey Karl, same here! I never owned one, but a few of my friends did. We used to spend a lot of time in their place playing call of duty, fifa, little big planet, band hero, or any story based game while eating snacks. Loved those days. I'm from India btw, love your stuff.

Karl Bhaiya, God Hand aur Urban Reign khelo.

I didn't get a PS3 until 2017 when Gamestop was dumping them for $40 and thought at that price how the hell do I not go buy one. When combined with the deluge of $2 to $5 PS3 blockbusters and critical hits on PSN every week got to build up a pretty awesome library with Demon's Souls, the inFAMOUS games, all the MGS games on PS3, the Ratchet & Clank Future series, Yakuza 4 & 5, Ni No Kuni, most of the really renowned indies like Journey, Flower, Okami, Puppeteer, Unfinished Swan, etc for like $120. Only games that cost me any more than maybe $6 on that system were Yakuza 3 and 3D Dot Game Heroes.

Lol I remember them janky ass tv's we had to replace the lamp for ours back then wtf??? A lamp in a tv???

It was a DLP TV. Theres no way he bought a standard rear projection TV in 2006-2007.

What’s the game at 00:11:00? Can’t remember the name!

@@vFxMzModz Looks like Daytona USA

you are a legend

God sent

The humour in this video was flawless in general!

Lmao same, it had me rolling 💀

I think only Richard that can surpass how they like Chad Warden

Best of all, he's explaining it in the here and now.

I've been feeling this way about this channel for a while. The thorough journalistic/doc/tech dudes approach is what you want from a gaming channel. I also like strafefox.

DF has the best team, Alex and John are the best and Richard holds it all together

John is great but he really dropped the ball on the coverage of Cyberpunk and with Starfield it is looking like he’s going to make the same mistake

@@angelurbina2049 They are a continuation of 90s magazine approach. Unlike other modern gaming channels which went way over the line.

Same! I'm glad he pointed out that reviewers did not get the release code because I remember buying it at launch and loving the game. I remember being confused why it got trashed and how the sixaxis controls weren't that difficult.

@J.C. Denton Mine died from the YLOD. Even sent it to Sony to fix, and it died again six months later. It's caused by bad tantalum capacitors apparently. For those just getting into PS3, the Slim is the best overall model to get. Which is what I ultimately ended up replacing my Phat 60GB with. It's reliable and doesn't look as cheap as the Super Slim. But I do miss the features the original models had.

@@MmntechCa like SD card support. I would show my family my photography from them, back in the day when 1GB SD Card was $30

Still have mine set up for that reason, it sounds like an airplane though

@J.C. Denton Yeah, true. But it ran perfect for years up until 2020. Never had a single issue with it.

@J.C. Denton you can fix the YLOD yourself by soldering the gfx card/ cpu yourself to the motherboard.

I wonder where he is now

I can’t believe he brought up Chad Warden with a straight face 🤣🤣🤣

@@mikemiles2241 He's enjoying that PS Quintuple

I’m sorry, the what?

@@mysticalplatypus87 The PS Quintuple. It followed the PS Quadruple.

I used to think that too. I thought high frame rates gave me headaches and that games should be like films (24fps).

That's hilarious 🤣

C I N E M A T I C F R A M E R A T E

Wow that's crazy lol. Funny how much we didn't know back when we were kids

I still enjoy cinematic frame rates more than high frame rate in a lot of games. Not all games, but many of them. Screen tearing however is like nails on a chalkboard and instantly takes me out of the experience and hurts my eyes.

I love that the ps3 is now an artifact for study and demystification, and John is the Indiana Jones we never thought we'd get... or to be more appropriate, the Nathan Drake!

Not really odd it was built like that to fight people pirate the games and then became probably the hardest console to make games for

I forgot about how the early launch models had true hardware back compat and then the 1.1 models no longer had the chip in them and used a software layer instead. I was assistant manager at a high volume GameStop during that era and now I remember that being a big deal for anyone in the know about it. People gobbled those last few shipments up immediately after restock until the new chipless ones came in.

Agreed. I own a back compat hardware launch model and it's a dream. It's such a weird relic to own but awesome relic

I've bought a PS3 SuperSlim back in 2012 because I was broke and my expensive gaming PC which I've bough two years ago, when I had the money, has literally fried - mainboard, CPU, GPU were dead due to power supply failure. I couldn't afford any decent PC, but wanted something to game on and PS3 SuperSlim was cheap as chips back then... bought the HDD slot bracket too and re-used one of my old HDDs for the console (as PS3SS came without one and only 4GB of flash storage). Second-hand games were also cheap back then and later on, when I've found a job with decent pay, I've received a box of them from work colleague whose console got stolen. He wasn't mourning the loss, as he wasn't playing that much at that point. I though that PS3 will be a stop-gap for me, that I'll sell it when better times come and I'll buy a PC once again. But even after it happened, I've kept the console, because I've fallen in love with the machine. It does have its shortcomings, especially the low budget model I own, but overall it is insanely good gaming device with library so diverse it puts any following console to shame. And many games impress with visuals and gameplay to this day. Killzone 2 is one of my favourite examples, the game not only looks great, it have some of the most impactful animations and great use of inverse kinetics to enhance the overall visual feedback. Google "Killzone 2 is next gen". The way how enemies react to being shot at puts modern games to shame. The attention to detail is jaw-dropping. When Forza Horizon 5 dropped and I've played it on PC I was thinking to myself "damn, I wish this would have a split-screen multiplayer so I can play this with my wife". The I've remembered that I have a copy of Motorstorm Pacific Rift for PS3. Fired it up for the first time in like 8 years and I was blown away by how the game looks, runs and plays. We've been having fun with it in split-screen for weeks to come. PS3 have buckets of great local multiplayer titles with that arcade-ish feel. These days the focus is either on deep single-player games or online play.

Most tv broadcasts still are 1080i😂😂😂

@@Loophole23742 I know but back then ppl didn’t even know 1080p could exist.

@@AlexRN the people writing must have been clueless... it's always been down to the display standard, and indeed by that time 1080p was well within the realm of possibility.

@@AlexRN There were PC monitors supporting 1600x1200 resolutions as early as 2001-2002. I actually had one, but didn't have a fast enough graphics card to push those resolutions at playable framerates in games except in some early 3D titles like Quake and Tomb Raider. The sharpness and clarity was insane when you could push that fidelity though.

@@elimalinsky7069 PC monitors always had modern clarity, while the consoles were a blurry mess until the 360/ps3. that was just a whole different world. even worse in the 50 hz countries. slower games and horrible flickering on top of the already crappy picture quality.

I'm curious as to what you think of the PS5s UI

@AudioPhile I completely agree! The XMB was so fluid and simple to use. I really hated the PS4 UI and the PS5 UI is somewhat similar to that also. After researching into the origins of the XMB it looks like Q-Games was ultimately responsible for its design (studio also known for games development) developed technology directly with Sony Japan for the PlayStation 3. The PS3's XMB (Xross Media Bar) interface, background and music visualizer were developed by Q-Games and they are credited with 3D Graphics Technology in the About PS3 section of the PS3's OS.

Still have my 3D TV that I bought and used with the PS3. Wipeout HD was a particularly great experience on it.

@@datfatpug me too. I have my 2011 Samsung 3D tv and a Sony PlayStation 3D monitor with simu view, the one that lets 2 people see different unique perspectives through their 3D glasses. Was great for 2 player games because you didn’t need split screen, shame that there wasn’t enough games to support that feature. Only game I remember playing was motor storm apocalypse.

Killzone 3 was excellent on a 3d tv.

Its kinda hard to demonstrate 3D games on RU-vid though, considering we are all looking at a 2D screen.

I bought a 3D Samsung monitor back then in 2010 for this, was in heavy discount cause of its refresh rate and contrast it’s better than most modern monitors (besides ports) lol. Ahh 3D the gimmick back then

It was slow if called ingame.

PS3 XMB and 360 Blades GUI were the best things from that period.

@@0xybelis That's less to do with actual UI itself and more that Sony just not really designing it with background usage in mind. Which is clear since the in-game XMB was added later in a firmware update. It really does lag like a mf depending on the game, that's for sure. Which is a shame because it's super fluid and quick normally.

It wsa very responsive actually. Like the PS4 XMB and even Xbox 360's many UI refreshes, they got slower over time. XMB was fine for small libraries, but as your library grew, or your system aged, it started to be slow and somewhat cumbersome to use. PS4 was the same, fine for the time, but now the thing is just so slow. PSN was also even fine before they made it the refresh UI sytem that has been around for all the PS4's lifespan too. I remember the old PSN store was slow due to server overload in the beginning, but it evened out and was respectfully useful to navigate and smoother than the crap we have now. I hate using it, and just have to use the PS App these days.

Folders and some nice dynamic backgrounds

I agree. It was a little ahead of it's time I think and would've run much better once developers got a better hang of the cell architecture and gave the option for analog controls from the start. The game is so infamous though that it's been buried and forgotten.

Yeah like TLoU twice. Even just a PSN port with minor touchups would be nice

Just a 4K 60FPS "remaster" would do wonders for it

I agree for ps4/ps5, or a PC version.

@@Beaut_Beau or 1080P at 60 fps. People always want 4K and should not underestimate 1080P gaming

counting pixels? Lol

I remember being so excited when I first popped MGS4 into my PS3 and a notice on the tv popped up that said 1080p. Little did I know the native resolution was only something like 1024x768 for some reason, but man I still believed it.

@@saucyx4 Yes that was a real thing people had to do and sometimes still do, when games run at sub-native resolutions the best way to find out the exact resolution is the zoom in a long way and count how many pixels there are inside a specific area. For example, if you zoom in to a 16x16 block on a game, with a diagonal edge in the centre, it should have 16 pixel steps. But if it only has 12, it’s running at 75% resolution. That maths might not be exactly right as I’m not an expert but that’s the basic theory. Sub-native games were very common in the 7th generation so most games needed to be pixel counted to find their real resolution. Today pixel counting is still used for dynamic res games, e.g. the Doom 2016 Switch port video, John did a bunch of different pixel counts to find it’s different resolutions.

@@HaonProductions Yes, all the time. Console wars were just as big back then as they are now. I remember people freaking the f out that Far Cry 2 ran at 668p on PS3 and 720p on Xbox 360, it was huge at the time even though it seems like such a small issue. edit; Sorry! Meant this to the person above you, Saucy!

@@saucyx4 that’s still how Digital Foundry figures out the real internal resolutions of games, even when they have software upscaling or reconstruction built in further obfuscating the true resolution. They find a sharp diagonal line on a good frame and count the steps basically.

yes! i loved listening to music on the ps3 and relaxing to the visualizer

@MenaceInc was just about to say this. Didn't they also use it for GC and wii?

At the end of the day resolution doesn't mean much. If I play Tetris are 1080p is it impressive? Being able to play games that are up to current standards at said resolution is what's important and I'd saay the ps3 ultimately failed at that. 720p was the sweet spot that generation.

The original Xbox had 720p and 1080i back in 2001!

​@@devantetoppin7879games like ridge racer 7 are much more complicated than tetris lol

Movies run at that so it's true

@@RobertK1993 yes that's why it's funny

It could run technologically advanced games. Hulk ultimate destruction was open world and very cpu intensive with all the destruction and was full 720p. You can even mod it to run most anything at 720p and most are playable with zero optimization or hardware upgrades. Even halo ce runs single player around 20-25fps

​@@robarmstrong5404Its the GPU that would allow for higher resolution

The story behind FFXIII is definitely interesting. A lot of stuff going on behind the scenes leading the game to fall short of their initial ideas

That game is gorgeous specially back in 2010. The areas are jawdroping.

you forgot to say please

I'd love that! He already did a video on soul calibur 1 but I'd love to see sonic adventure, crazy taxi, dead or alive 2 etc highlighted

That’ll be awesome. I remember the Powerstone games from Capcom that released on Dreamcast. Absolutely addictive games.

With all the amazing reconstruction techniques we're quickly approaching a post-resolution era.

Agree, and little bro 720p is never a bad alternative either :)

1080p is perfect in my book, but I'll take higher FPS any day over higher resolution. That's just how I was raised (by my PC master race parents). lol

@@rubendiaz9444 720p is terrible

@@madoc1 terrible? Hardly

My 60GB launch model had a YLOD around 2011 or so. It was during a timeframe where Sony was accepting YLOD 20/60GB PS3’s outside of warranty and sending you a refurbed slim model for some smaller amount of money, I can’t quite remember. Had it happened to me today, I would have been able to repair it and I would have done that instead. Anyway, I guess they needed those models for a contract with the air force to maintain a certain supply of spare parts for the PS3 cluster they built?

Man, i can't believe LAIR is from 2007, the stuff going on there is insane, the PS3 was an old beast, i bet with the help from the SPEs, that would reach 30fps.

That's right, of the whole PlayStation family, the PS2 and PS3. It has become my favorite one and the most played from the whole PlayStation family to the point where I own 10 of them (including dev kit/test kit) and just missing the prototype model lol.

@@solid_rob3236 Wow what a collection! I still have my PS3 20gb with the 6 usb slots kinda sad that it's having YLOD from sometime now especially when I game for longer periods of time and the fan gets louder but still collecting games for it until now. And all these time I haven't tried to play a PS1 or PS2 disc I always wanted to try it lol but I do have some PS1 and PS2 digital games that I bought from the Playstation store.

No one is arguing that as the 360 and ps3 were the peak of gaming we assumed it would get better but that may be the only thing we are wrong about as gaming is nothing close to what it use to be

@@krispydream6907 4 USB ports not 6

With 1.25M subs I wouldn't call this channel 'hidden' LoL

Games always advertise their IGN score but if they said "Performance tested and approved by Digital Foundry" I would definitely consider buying it

@@JuanSinMiedo441 there are a million+ people playing call of duty... 1 million over the entire community is a small number...

You're 4 years off.

@@DrJones20 Hence "Reaching"

@@MajorisMons Ridiculous thing to say. Might as well say reaching 30 year anniversary since we're gonna pretend several years don't matter.

@@DrJones20 Hence, "Hence 'Reaching' " 'Reach' - arrive at; get as far as. 'ing' - action or process

@@MajorisMons Yeah it's reaching it's 30th anniversary